Yes I noticed that. However one of the children, Eliza aged 13, is recorded as being born in Mansfield, Notts, whereas all the rest were born in Blackwell, Derbys. Did Mary go "home" for that birth? Detailed checking of the enumerators handwriting on the 1861 census shows Mary's birthplace definitely begins with an "H" and also highlights that he (presumably, he) dots his "I"s, therefore leading me to believe that the second letter is indeed an "e". So "Hellson" for Selston? Who knows? Brian -----Original Message----- From: Tony Proctor [mailto:tony@proctor.net] Sent: 11 September 2013 10:53 To: Brian Binns; 'WRIGHT PETER'; 'Mrs Watson' Cc: 'Notts Gen' Subject: Re: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace Interestingly, in 1851 (Piece: 2123, Folio: 259, Page: 4) there is no place-of-birth given for Mary, and the others are down as Blackwell, Derbys. Tony Proctor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Binns" <bnbinns@gmail.com> To: "'WRIGHT PETER'" <peter.wright15@ntlworld.com>; "'Mrs Watson'" <familytree29@hotmail.com> Cc: "'Notts Gen'" <nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace >I too thought of ilson, being the local pronunciation of Ilkeston But the > enumerator put Notts not Derbys, and the entry could be Hellson, rather > than > Hillson. This coupled with the fact that Selston is quite near Fulwood led > me to that conclusion. The poster needs to find the marriage, then with > her > maiden name can hopefully find the Christening place. > > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of WRIGHT PETER > Sent: 11 September 2013 09:40 > To: Mrs Watson > Cc: Notts Gen > Subject: Re: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace > > Hi, > > Fulwood, Notts as been said is a place on the Derbyshire border near > Sutton-in-Ashfield, Notts. > > With regard to Hellson, I would have thought in the local accent as this > being 'Ilson'. or 'normal' folk know it as Ilkeston, Derbys. > > regards > Pete in Mansfield > > > On 10 September 2013 21:49, Mrs Watson <familytree29@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> HelloI am trying to figure out a place of birth according to the 1861 >> census: >> Mary BALL born about 1808 in Notts - it looks like Hellson to me but I >> can't find that on a map. Would someone with a much better knowledge >> of Notts be able to suggest anything? >> Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 2425; Folio: 32; Page: 6; GSU roll: >> 542969. >> The 1871 census for Mary gives her place of birth as Fullwood, which I >> can't seem to find either, although it sounds familiar!ThanksJanie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Notts Surname List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much everyone who responded to my query with a variety of suggestions. I have indeed found Fulwood, on the outskirts of Sutton. The 'Hellson' link is still puzzling me, so I will carefully search through everyone's suggestions. I have been saying it over and over again in my Nana's accent, but nothing as yet!Rather annoying that Mary didn't give her birthplace in the 1851 census.Mary's maiden name was GEARY - I've searched familysearch.org but haven't yet located any possible birth. . . I really appreciate all your help.Janie > From: bnbinns@gmail.com > To: tony@proctor.net; peter.wright15@ntlworld.com; familytree29@hotmail.com > CC: nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 11:15:35 +0100 > > Yes I noticed that. However one of the children, Eliza aged 13, is recorded > as being born in Mansfield, Notts, whereas all the rest were born in > Blackwell, Derbys. Did Mary go "home" for that birth? > Detailed checking of the enumerators handwriting on the 1861 census shows > Mary's birthplace definitely begins with an "H" and also highlights that he > (presumably, he) dots his "I"s, therefore leading me to believe that the > second letter is indeed an "e". So "Hellson" for Selston? > Who knows? > > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Proctor [mailto:tony@proctor.net] > Sent: 11 September 2013 10:53 > To: Brian Binns; 'WRIGHT PETER'; 'Mrs Watson' > Cc: 'Notts Gen' > Subject: Re: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace > > Interestingly, in 1851 (Piece: 2123, Folio: 259, Page: 4) there is no > place-of-birth given for Mary, and the others are down as Blackwell, Derbys. > > Tony Proctor > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Binns" <bnbinns@gmail.com> > To: "'WRIGHT PETER'" <peter.wright15@ntlworld.com>; "'Mrs Watson'" > <familytree29@hotmail.com> > Cc: "'Notts Gen'" <nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:24 AM > Subject: Re: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace > > > >I too thought of ilson, being the local pronunciation of Ilkeston But the > > enumerator put Notts not Derbys, and the entry could be Hellson, rather > > than > > Hillson. This coupled with the fact that Selston is quite near Fulwood led > > me to that conclusion. The poster needs to find the marriage, then with > > her > > maiden name can hopefully find the Christening place. > > > > Brian > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of WRIGHT PETER > > Sent: 11 September 2013 09:40 > > To: Mrs Watson > > Cc: Notts Gen > > Subject: Re: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace > > > > Hi, > > > > Fulwood, Notts as been said is a place on the Derbyshire border near > > Sutton-in-Ashfield, Notts. > > > > With regard to Hellson, I would have thought in the local accent as this > > being 'Ilson'. or 'normal' folk know it as Ilkeston, Derbys. > > > > regards > > Pete in Mansfield > > > > > > On 10 September 2013 21:49, Mrs Watson <familytree29@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> HelloI am trying to figure out a place of birth according to the 1861 > >> census: > >> Mary BALL born about 1808 in Notts - it looks like Hellson to me but I > >> can't find that on a map. Would someone with a much better knowledge > >> of Notts be able to suggest anything? > >> Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 2425; Folio: 32; Page: 6; GSU roll: > >> 542969. > >> The 1871 census for Mary gives her place of birth as Fullwood, which I > >> can't seem to find either, although it sounds familiar!ThanksJanie > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Notts Surname List > >> > >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > Notts Surname List > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > Notts Surname List > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >