Hi Ted, Oddly enough, Robert's occupation on the 1891 census is recorded as a Card Winder, with the enumerator having added "Lace" to the entry. This would appear to be an error as on the 1881 census he is a Cordwainer, as he is on the 1871. In 1881 the family were living at 7 Rushton Terrace, St. Anns, Nottingham. If you re-check the 1891 census you will see that the sons born in Spawich are not Robert's children but the sons of Constance Jones who was living next door to Robert Hawksley. She is recorded as a daughter, so presumably the actual tenant of this house, her father, was absent on Census night. She was born in Mansfield and again you have taken Ancestry's transcription which incorrectly records her as Robert Hawksley's daughter. It's always advisable to check the actual entry and not trust Ancestry's transcriptions. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ted Stevenson Sent: 06 October 2013 10:42 To: NOTTSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [NTT] The Travelling shoemaker G'day Nottingham people; In the 1891 census, Robert HAWKSLEY and his wife, Mary nee HICKLING are recorded in Nottingham with 7 children however they are from quite different places the first son is from somewhere in Nottinghamshire, the next daughter is from Mansfield, the next son from somewhere in Nottinghamshire, the next son, again from somewhere in Notts, the next son from Mansfield, the next son is from Mansfield HOWEVER, the two youngest are from Spawich in Suffolk. Would Roberts work as a Cordwainer have caused him to travel ? but why all the way to Suffolk and back (for the 1891 census) A REQUEST: Would anyone have access to the 1881 census that would include Spawich, Suffolk and if so, could I request a "look up" Thanks Ted Stevenson Researching HAWKSLEYs of Derbyshire Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry I made an error on this email. The sons born in Spawich are Constance Jones's brothers, as is the other brother born in Mansfield. They are not her children, as I incorrectly said, but all are the children of an absent tenant - a Mr. Jones. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: Brian Binns [mailto:bnbinns@gmail.com] Sent: 06 October 2013 11:02 To: 'Ted Stevenson'; NOTTSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [NTT] The Travelling shoemaker Hi Ted, Oddly enough, Robert's occupation on the 1891 census is recorded as a Card Winder, with the enumerator having added "Lace" to the entry. This would appear to be an error as on the 1881 census he is a Cordwainer, as he is on the 1871. In 1881 the family were living at 7 Rushton Terrace, St. Anns, Nottingham. If you re-check the 1891 census you will see that the sons born in Spawich are not Robert's children but the sons of Constance Jones who was living next door to Robert Hawksley. She is recorded as a daughter, so presumably the actual tenant of this house, her father, was absent on Census night. She was born in Mansfield and again you have taken Ancestry's transcription which incorrectly records her as Robert Hawksley's daughter. It's always advisable to check the actual entry and not trust Ancestry's transcriptions. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ted Stevenson Sent: 06 October 2013 10:42 To: NOTTSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [NTT] The Travelling shoemaker G'day Nottingham people; In the 1891 census, Robert HAWKSLEY and his wife, Mary nee HICKLING are recorded in Nottingham with 7 children however they are from quite different places the first son is from somewhere in Nottinghamshire, the next daughter is from Mansfield, the next son from somewhere in Nottinghamshire, the next son, again from somewhere in Notts, the next son from Mansfield, the next son is from Mansfield HOWEVER, the two youngest are from Spawich in Suffolk. Would Roberts work as a Cordwainer have caused him to travel ? but why all the way to Suffolk and back (for the 1891 census) A REQUEST: Would anyone have access to the 1881 census that would include Spawich, Suffolk and if so, could I request a "look up" Thanks Ted Stevenson Researching HAWKSLEYs of Derbyshire Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ted, Brian, Peter and others on the Notts and Derbys lists. I looked at the 1891 census in question and that word Spawich is actually Ipswich. As I said to Ted it helps to know the English place names and be able to decipher them. By the way, Ted and I think that we are related through the Hawksley line but we need to sort out a couple of missing links to prove it. We both live in Western Australia, emigrated two years apart, came on the same ship and now have met a couple of times. Peter Patilla and I may also be related through the same Hawksley line. What a small world. Regards, Malcolm in Perth, originally from Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Binns Sent: Sunday, 6 October 2013 6:02 PM To: 'Ted Stevenson'; NOTTSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NTT] The Travelling shoemaker Hi Ted, Oddly enough, Robert's occupation on the 1891 census is recorded as a Card Winder, with the enumerator having added "Lace" to the entry. This would appear to be an error as on the 1881 census he is a Cordwainer, as he is on the 1871. In 1881 the family were living at 7 Rushton Terrace, St. Anns, Nottingham. If you re-check the 1891 census you will see that the sons born in Spawich are not Robert's children but the sons of Constance Jones who was living next door to Robert Hawksley. She is recorded as a daughter, so presumably the actual tenant of this house, her father, was absent on Census night. She was born in Mansfield and again you have taken Ancestry's transcription which incorrectly records her as Robert Hawksley's daughter. It's always advisable to check the actual entry and not trust Ancestry's transcriptions. Brian Binns -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 1061 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen