If Bertie did not marry Annie Haslam, then he must have married Edith Anthony. I too found these as the only possibilities. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: 20 November 2013 15:45 To: nottsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NTT] Bertie Wardle & Jane Mc Namara marriage Hi Bill Although the birth certs may look like the couple were married, there was no system of checking every registration for proof of marriage of the parents, only if deceit was suspected would proof be asked for So finding the wording on a birth registration does not in any way prove they were, only that the informant was believed In 1911 Jennie MCNAMARA 21 single is a boarder with Gilbert & Amy WARDLE Phylis MCNAMARA 16 months in the same household (presumed daughter of Jennie) Do you know if a father is named on the birth cert for Phyllis? Births Mar 1910 MCNAMARA Phyllis Nottingham 7b 326 As Jennie was born in Glasgow I had a quick look on scotlandspeople for a marriage there but found none (under Jennie, Jane or Sarah) Neither did I find an obvious hit for Sarah, Jane or Jennie MCNAMARA born circa 1890 in Glasgow in the census, have you found her or her parents in pre 1911 census ? Do you know if MCNAMARA was her maiden name for certain? ie was she married before? The only marriage in the 1911/1912 period I found that matched in any way was Marriages Dec 1911 Anthony Edith E Basford 7b 463 Haslam Annie Basford 7b 463 Schofield William Basford 7b 463 Wardle Bertie Basford 7b 463 So could Bertie have married Annie? It appears that a SCHOFIELD & HASLAM were having children post 1911 so perhaps not Other than that I found no evidence they married I presume its his medal card 1377 Northumberland Fusiliers ? If so his SWB roll entry says he enlisted 10th June 1905 and was discharged 10th Feb 1916 due to sickness No sign of a pension record which is it existed would be likely to record the place and date of marriage to be eligible for pension for wife and children Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 20/11/2013 12:23, WARDLE WILLIAM wrote: > Hi All, I wonder if I may call on your combine expertise to help me > break down ONE of my long standing brick walls. > > My father's cousin is coming up to 95 yrs old in December > 2013(b.1918). Her daughter informs me that her mum has always believed > that her parents weren't married. > All of the information that we have collected indicates to me that > they were indeed married. > BUT I cannot find the marriage. > I am sure that it would please an old lady so much to see written > proof of Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

FreeBMD shows no birth entries for WARDLE/HASLAM or WARDLE/ANTHONY in the period 1912 - 1922 but does show 3 children for WARDLE/MCNAMARA - in 1912, 1915 and 1919 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Binns" <bnbinns@gmail.com> To: "'Nivard Ovington'" <ovington.one@gmail.com>; <nottsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [NTT] Bertie Wardle & Jane Mc Namara marriage > If Bertie did not marry Annie Haslam, then he must have married Edith > Anthony. I too found these as the only possibilities. > > Brian Binns > > -----Original Message----- > From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington > Sent: 20 November 2013 15:45 > To: nottsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NTT] Bertie Wardle & Jane Mc Namara marriage > > Hi Bill > > Although the birth certs may look like the couple were married, there was > no > system of checking every registration for proof of marriage of the > parents, > only if deceit was suspected would proof be asked for > > So finding the wording on a birth registration does not in any way prove > they were, only that the informant was believed > > In 1911 > Jennie MCNAMARA 21 single is a boarder with Gilbert & Amy WARDLE Phylis > MCNAMARA 16 months in the same household (presumed daughter of > Jennie) > > Do you know if a father is named on the birth cert for Phyllis? > > Births Mar 1910 > MCNAMARA Phyllis Nottingham 7b 326 > > As Jennie was born in Glasgow I had a quick look on scotlandspeople for a > marriage there but found none (under Jennie, Jane or Sarah) > > Neither did I find an obvious hit for Sarah, Jane or Jennie MCNAMARA born > circa 1890 in Glasgow in the census, have you found her or her parents in > pre 1911 census ? > > Do you know if MCNAMARA was her maiden name for certain? > > ie was she married before? > > The only marriage in the 1911/1912 period I found that matched in any way > was > > Marriages Dec 1911 > Anthony Edith E Basford 7b 463 > Haslam Annie Basford 7b 463 > Schofield William Basford 7b 463 > Wardle Bertie Basford 7b 463 > > So could Bertie have married Annie? > > It appears that a SCHOFIELD & HASLAM were having children post 1911 so > perhaps not > > Other than that I found no evidence they married > > I presume its his medal card 1377 Northumberland Fusiliers ? > > If so his SWB roll entry says he enlisted 10th June 1905 and was > discharged > 10th Feb 1916 due to sickness > > No sign of a pension record which is it existed would be likely to record > the place and date of marriage to be eligible for pension for wife and > children > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 20/11/2013 12:23, WARDLE WILLIAM wrote: >> Hi All, I wonder if I may call on your combine expertise to help me >> break down ONE of my long standing brick walls. >> >> My father's cousin is coming up to 95 yrs old in December >> 2013(b.1918). Her daughter informs me that her mum has always believed >> that her parents weren't married. >> All of the information that we have collected indicates to me that >> they were indeed married. >> BUT I cannot find the marriage. >> I am sure that it would please an old lady so much to see written >> proof of > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message