From: EdisWorld@aol.com > I have an Elizabeth Gertrude Edis giving birth to a son > Frederick Henry Sept 19 1895 at 20 Earl Street,Nottingham. > Coul SKS tell me who her parents were. I cannot find her > on the 1881 or 1891 censuses. > Thank You > Kenneth Hughes > Presumably you mean that when she gave birth to Frederick Henry she was unmarried and Edis was her maiden name? It would help if you were precise and told us whether she was married or not. Was she the Elizabeth Gertrude Edis whose birth appears at FreeBMD in the Sep quarter of 1863 at Nottingham, vol 7b page 224? I hesitate to suggest that you buy the birth certificate because such a suggestion has brought me a certain amount of disapproval earlier this week! <bg> However, it would seem a reasonable thing to do. I cannot see a marriage or death for her at FreeBMD, but have you noticed that there was apparently another Frederick Henry Edis whose birth appears in the Sep quarter of 1892, also at Nottingham, vol 7b page 384? Interesting coincidence! I should also point out that the 1881 census has a GERTRUDE EDIS (not Elizabeth Gertrude but that means very little, since people often only used one of their names and perhaps she preferred her middle name) , aged 17, daughter of Thomas Edis, aged 38, shoemaker, and his wife Elizabeth, 39, at 15 Brown Court, Nottingham St Mary. Gertrude was a laceworker. I suggest that is very likely to be her. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> > From: EdisWorld@aol.com > > > I have an Elizabeth Gertrude Edis giving birth to a son > > Frederick Henry Sept 19 1895 at 20 Earl Street,Nottingham. > > Coul SKS tell me who her parents were. I cannot find her > > on the 1881 or 1891 censuses. > > Thank You > > Kenneth Hughes > > > Presumably you mean that when she gave birth to Frederick Henry she > was unmarried and Edis was her maiden name? It would help if you were > precise and told us whether she was married or not. > > Was she the Elizabeth Gertrude Edis whose birth appears at FreeBMD in > the Sep quarter of 1863 at Nottingham, vol 7b page 224? I hesitate to > suggest that you buy the birth certificate because such a suggestion > has brought me a certain amount of disapproval earlier this week! <bg> > However, it would seem a reasonable thing to do. I cannot see a > marriage or death for her at FreeBMD, but have you noticed that there > was apparently another Frederick Henry Edis whose birth appears in the > Sep quarter of 1892, also at Nottingham, vol 7b page 384? Interesting > coincidence! > > I should also point out that the 1881 census has a GERTRUDE EDIS (not > Elizabeth Gertrude but that means very little, since people often only > used one of their names and perhaps she preferred her middle name) , > aged 17, daughter of Thomas Edis, aged 38, shoemaker, and his wife > Elizabeth, 39, at 15 Brown Court, Nottingham St Mary. Gertrude was a > laceworker. I suggest that is very likely to be her. > I would further add that the likely marriage of THOMAS EDIS and ELIZABETH OZENBROOK is found with FreeBMD at Nottingham in the Sep quarter of 1861, vol 7b page 227. This is the ONLY marriage of a male Edis at Nottingham that would appear to fit the couple found in the 1881 census, also their children, including Elizabeth Gertrude born in the Sep quarter of 1863, as I said earlier. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

I wonder if the poster who asked for help re the above person has noticed that myself and two other people answered this query within less than three hours of it being posted to the list at 8.30 a.m. EST (Eastern Standard Time), 1.30 p.m. GMT in the UK, on Sunday? I revealed to him who the likely parents of Elizabeth Gertrude Edis were and Pat Williams and Peter Wright both confirmed my information. Peter even posted the exact date of the parents' marriage, but we have so far received no acknowledgement or thanks (a check with the archives confirms) and it is now over 30 hours later. Do people just post queries to the list and then either not bother to check for any response, or do they just take the information and go away? And some listers wonder why I occasionally get irritated with the "look-up culture"! -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE