Having done some work on various names using the GRO index, I have come across a birth that is indexed no less than 5 times. . 1/ Mothers married name (but not father of the child's name) + Mother's maiden name 2/Mother's maiden name ( as she was separated or divorced from ex-husband) + Mother's maiden name 3/Biological father of the child's name hyphenated with mother's married name + Mother's maiden name 4/Biological father of the child's name hyphenated with mother's maiden name + Mother's maiden name 5/(after the couple had married) Couple's surname + Mother's maiden name I hope this helps David in Ilkeston In a message dated 10/04/2009 11:07:54 GMT Standard Time, john.townend@o2.co.uk writes: Sorry, Nivard, I'm not doing very well. There is only one certificate, or to be more precise, two identical copies of the same one. There are two entries in the GRO Indexes, which when used to order certicicates have the same result. So it is not a question of re-registration but of dual recording of the first registration. Both parents had been married before and did not re-marry each other although they lived together thereafter, so presumably neither was divorced from the first spouse. Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: "John" <john.townend@o2.co.uk>; <nottsgen-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [NTT] Registration of illegitimate birth > Hi John > > OK so if I interpret your post correctly this time > > You have two certificates, the first in in the mothers maiden name and the > second in the fathers name? > > If so it would indicate that the child was born and registered before the > couple married, and subsequently they married and had the registration > legitimised retrospectively > > Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > > > >> Sorry, Nivard, to have misled you. Thank you very much for your interest >> and prompt reaction. Obviously I was wrong to say same page number as the >> surnames are well apart alphabetically. >> >> No, there is only one birth but it is appears twice in the indexes, i.e >> >> First entry >> Surname X, Christian name Y, Mother's maiden name Z, District D, Vol. Nb, >> Page No. ppp. >> >> Second entry >> Surname W, Christian name Y, Mother's maiden name Z, District D, Vol Nb, >> Page No. qqq. >> >> So, only the child's surname and the page no. differ. >> >> Identical certificates have been supplied for each entry. The surname >> for the first entry is the fathers's; that for the second entry is that >> of the mother's husband. She is shown on the certificate as "Jane" W, >> formerly Z (homeduties). >> >> John > > Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, David. John ----- Original Message ----- From: Ddgretton@aol.com To: john.townend@o2.co.uk ; NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [NTT] Registration of illegitimate birth Having done some work on various names using the GRO index, I have come across a birth that is indexed no less than 5 times. . 1/ Mothers married name (but not father of the child's name) + Mother's maiden name 2/Mother's maiden name ( as she was separated or divorced from ex-husband) + Mother's maiden name 3/Biological father of the child's name hyphenated with mother's married name + Mother's maiden name 4/Biological father of the child's name hyphenated with mother's maiden name + Mother's maiden name 5/(after the couple had married) Couple's surname + Mother's maiden name I hope this helps David in Ilkeston In a message dated 10/04/2009 11:07:54 GMT Standard Time, john.townend@o2.co.uk writes: Sorry, Nivard, I'm not doing very well. There is only one certificate, or to be more precise, two identical copies of the same one. There are two entries in the GRO Indexes, which when used to order certicicates have the same result. So it is not a question of re-registration but of dual recording of the first registration. Both parents had been married before and did not re-marry each other although they lived together thereafter, so presumably neither was divorced from the first spouse. Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: "John" <john.townend@o2.co.uk>; <nottsgen-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [NTT] Registration of illegitimate birth > Hi John > > OK so if I interpret your post correctly this time > > You have two certificates, the first in in the mothers maiden name and the > second in the fathers name? > > If so it would indicate that the child was born and registered before the > couple married, and subsequently they married and had the registration > legitimised retrospectively > > Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > > > >> Sorry, Nivard, to have misled you. Thank you very much for your interest >> and prompt reaction. Obviously I was wrong to say same page number as the >> surnames are well apart alphabetically. >> >> No, there is only one birth but it is appears twice in the indexes, i.e >> >> First entry >> Surname X, Christian name Y, Mother's maiden name Z, District D, Vol. Nb, >> Page No. ppp. >> >> Second entry >> Surname W, Christian name Y, Mother's maiden name Z, District D, Vol Nb, >> Page No. qqq. >> >> So, only the child's surname and the page no. differ. >> >> Identical certificates have been supplied for each entry. The surname >> for the first entry is the fathers's; that for the second entry is that >> of the mother's husband. She is shown on the certificate as "Jane" W, >> formerly Z (homeduties). >> >> John > > Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message