Hi Suzie This may be barking up completely the wrong tree, but there is a family in Newton Lancs in the 1891 census (RG12 3251 Fo: 84) that appears to match the details you give below for Robert and Sarah and their oldest 3 children, but the surname appears to be GRIBBY. I had previously looked for Robert in the 1871 census as I've lost a Henry SAVAGE from one of my ancestral families, and wondered if he might turn out to be your Robert's father, but couldn't find him. However, having now seen the 1891 entry, I checked back and think Robert might be in Ilkeston with the surname SAVILLE, with his father Henry's surname being (I think) GREBBY. (Ancestry have transcribed it as GABBY.) The reference for this entry is RG10 3483 fo: 80. If the father Henry's surname was GRIBBY or GREBBY then I don't suppose he is my missing Henry Savage, particularly as the birthplace is wrong, but maybe this will help you get somewhere with your family. Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzie Woodward" <vestlaybanks@btinternet.com> To: "Nottingham List" <NOTTSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:27 AM Subject: [NTT] Robert SAVAGE > Am rejoining this list to see if someone can help me with Robert SAVAGE. > > Robert was b 1864 in Ilkeston. His father was Henry, an iron moulder. > Can't find Robert in 1881. > > He married Sarah WHEATLEY in 1884 in Nottingham. > Robert & Sarah had 5 children between 1884 and 1895: > Emmeline, Harry, Adelaide, Ernest and Bertha. > > I believe Sarah died, possibly after childbirth, in 1895, and Robert > married > again. > > His second marriage was to Catherine HEAL(E)Y who was b 1867 in Dublin. > > My problem is I cannot find Robert, Sarah or any of the children in 1891. > I have got Robert and family in 1901 and 1911 in Miles Platting, > Manchester. > > I know I could send for the second marriage certificate which would give > me > details of Sarah's father, but just thought I'd check in with the list > first. > > Also realise that maybe I should be on the Derbyshire list too... > > Regards > Suzie (from Orkney)