Tena koe, Bryce Welcome to the list! You wrote: >>John (IV) Allen (born in Nottingham in 1830) = Catherine McNABB (John migrated to New Zealand >>after the 1851 census and before the 1861 census and our family descends from him)<< One suggestion: Have you purchased the micrographic copy of John's NZ death registration? [ie - copy of the entry in the death register, but not death certificate]. The register entry usually includes "Length of time in NZ", which will help you to identify his year of migration. Nga mihi. Blanche Charles Wellington New Zealand ---------------------------------------------- Bryce Kihirini, <kihiriniltd@xtra.co.nz> wrote: This is a new experience for me and I apologise in advance for any mistakes I will make and am making right now. My family hails from Nottingham and were the founders of the Allen and Solly hosiery manufacturing company. My line is as follows: Thomas (I) ALLEN = Ann (I) LIMB Thomas (II) Allen = Alice (I) WAKEFIELD Thomas (III) Allen (b. c1724 d. 1773?) = Hannah ROBERTSON or ROBINSON (b. 1728 d. 1792) John (I) Allen (b. 1754 d. 1832) = Elizabeth (I) WRIGHT (b. 1767 d. 1836) James Roger Allen (born in Nottingham in 1794) = Catherine BROWN (born in Langer in 1796) John (IV) Allen (born in Nottingham in 1830) = Catherine McNABB (John migrated to New Zealand after the 1851 census and before the 1861 census and our family descends from him) This is the information I have been able to piece together from family and census information. Any further information greatly appreciated about either the Allen line or their spouses. Noho ora mai, Bryce Kihirini ------------------------------