Hello Listers, I'm new to these list(s). I'm researching the family of Henry Morley (b abt 1819 Brighton Sussex - parents unknown) and wife Mary Ann (b abt 1813 Portsea Island Hampshire - parents unknown), who appear in the 1851 census with their two boys: Henry Morley b abt 1844 Portsea Island Augustus Edward b abt 1847 Portsea Island Henry Morley is a Tailor. They are living at 47 Church Street, Brighton, Sussex. ~~~~ By 1861 census Henry (b abt 1819) is living with Ellen (different wife b abt 1819 in Lindfield Sussex) -and son Augustus (going by name Edward). They are living at: 32 Red Cross Street, Brighton (Where they remain to live for at least 45 years) Son Henry b abt 1844 in 1861 is found in: Golden Square, Westminster St James, London, Middlesex, England. Occupation: Tailor. By 1873 he marries Rosetta 'Rose' Dann in Nottinghamshire. On Ancestry, I have found a record index for the WILL for Henry b 1819, who was married to (1st Mary Ann, then) Ellen. I'm looking for info on the following: -Parental/birth info for Henry b abt 1819 who married first Mary Ann, then Ellen. -Parental/birth info for Mary Ann (I've been unable to locate a marriage record so far) -Information about where Augustus Edward went, or who he married. -Where can I buy this WILL indexed at Ancestry, the only info they give is: Name: Henry Morley Probate Date: 17 Nov 1885 Death Date: 22 Oct 1885 Death Place: Sussex, England Registry: Lewes I have descendant info on where/what happened to their son Henry b abt 1844 Portsea, (Who married Rosetta Dann) he is in my direct tree. My tree info is available to look at for free at http://www.tammymitchell.com/family/JRM211215AncestrySept52011.html A Kinship report is also available free at: http://www.tammymitchell.com/family/JRM211215KinshipReportSept52011.htm (there are a few thousand people listed there, use your search/find in browser page to find a surname of interest) There has been a Family Finder FTDNA test done on a person from a Morley (paternal England) & Mitchell (maternal Scotland) line. I won't go on about that here because it's not allowed on the Hampshire list. But I will mention FTDNA kit #211215 and Gedmatch.com #F211215. Matches from FTDNA free to look at here: http://www.tammymitchell.com/family/211215_Family_Finder_Matches_20110817xls.htm I thank you in advance. Please contact me for any reason, regarding research, names questions, info! Tammy Mitchell BC Canada
Hi Tammy For copies of all wills 1858 on see http://www.justice.gov.uk/guidance/courts-and-tribunals/courts/probate/copies-of-grants-wills.htm Scroll down that page and select form PA1s All details are on there They do not take payment by credit card or online as yet What you have posted is just the transcribed part of the Probate Calendars that is searchable in the Ancestry index, when you find an entry on Ancestry select the image which is the page the transcribed part is taken from The full entry reads Probate Calendars 1885 MORLEY Henry 17th November The Will of Henry MORLEY late of 33 Red Cross street Brighton in the County of Sussex Tailor who died 22 October 1885 at 33 Red Cross street was proved at Lewes by Ellenor Morley of 33 Red Cross street Widow the relict the sole executrix Personal estate £226 17s 1d Most lists do not discuss DNA and there are lists for that It is always best to post to lists individually as cross posting can cause problems for list admins, it only takes a few seconds longer Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > On Ancestry, I have found a record index for the WILL for Henry b 1819, > who was married to (1st Mary Ann, then) Ellen. > > I'm looking for info on the following: > -Parental/birth info for Henry b abt 1819 who married first Mary Ann, > then Ellen. > -Parental/birth info for Mary Ann (I've been unable to locate a marriage > record so far) > -Information about where Augustus Edward went, or who he married. > > -Where can I buy this WILL indexed at Ancestry, the only info they give is: > Name: Henry Morley > Probate Date: 17 Nov 1885 > Death Date: 22 Oct 1885 > Death Place: Sussex, England > Registry: Lewes >
1881 Name: Edward Morley Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A. Morley Gender: Male Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Marlebone County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 40 Wells St Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Tailor Cutter Registration district: Marylebone Sub-registration district: All Souls ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 133 Folio: 90 Page Number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Edward Morley 34 Mary A. Morley 28 born London Middlesex RG11; Piece: 133; Folio: 90; Page: 33; GSU roll: 1341030. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello Listers, > > I'm new to these list(s). > > I'm researching the family of Henry Morley (b abt 1819 Brighton Sussex - > parents unknown) and wife Mary Ann (b abt 1813 Portsea Island Hampshire
Tammy, I think there's a lot more work you can do. FreeBMD should have both marriages of Henry, as well as births of his two sons and death of his first wife. I'm not going to search for them all, but it looks like Edward was born Dec qtr 1845 and Mary Ann died in Dec qtr 1857 at Brighton. Edward's birth certificate should reveal his mother's maiden name. It can be purchased online from GRO. There were no obvious marriages for Henry & Mary in their home counties of Sussex or Hampshire and a lot of others were up north in Yorkshire & Nottinghamshire. My guess would be between 1842 in Mildenhall and 1843 in Abindgon. But as I say, the birth certificate of Edward will prove her maiden name. You should then be able to find both in 1841 census and then look on Family Search to find christening records on IGI which will give their parents. There doesn't seem anything too difficult about it. Peter