Talking of divorce earlier,I was married in 1974 to someone and we were both married before and had to obtain divorce papers to get married to each other. I knew my OH had been married before so didn't think anything of it at the time. We were together about 40 years altogether,10 of them before we married and 30 years married and then we divorced just a few years ago. I learned my ex had died a couple of years ago and for some unknown reason I was looking on Ancestry at marriages for our marriage details,just curiosity I suppose,like you do! I was amazed to see that my ex had been married twice before he married me and the second marriage had occurred while married still to the first wife! Well of course I had to persue this as I started to wonder about my own marriage,thankfully the second wife had divorced him just a few months before he married me. The second marriage he had was in the 60's so at the in between stage of computers which is probably why he got away with it. He produced the first marriage divorce papers to marry me. He is dead now so I can't even ask him about it . During the first 10 years we were together it suited me not to re-marry after the first disaster and I suppose he didn't persue it because of what he had done! I must confess I was a bit shocked to discover this. Shirley ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012, 8:00 Subject: NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 48 Today's Topics:   1.  Gladwin/Turner (Jean Wood)   2. Brammer (Wendy Briscoe)   3. HEATH - Mansfield Poor Law Union. (MAVIS JOHNSON)  -thanks       (Julia Pannell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:18:39 +0100 From: Jean Wood <[email protected]> Subject: [NTT]  Gladwin/Turner To: <[email protected]>, Nottsgen <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Yes, there is a site that lists divorces - it is on fmp, (find my past) but only goes from 1858 t0 1903, and oddly I have indirect people in both first and last years - but nothing in between. So this may not be the right time slot for you ( or it might be - just.) I had an odd discovery of a cover up for an unmarried mother in 1939, which was covered up by the 16 year old appearing under her parental's marriage cert - but I smelled a rat as her mother was already 50! When I investigated further- and bought the relevant certificates (which confirmed my suspicion - too complicated for here) I discovered that the first marriage in 1915 had become a divorce by 1927 when the mother (Dorothy) remarried. Now, I never found the date of the divorce, but this was a well to do family - divorces were expensive - on Dorothy's second marriage cert it states Dorothy (married surname) divorced, (maiden name) and both names appear in the BMD indices. MANY people remarried without benefit of divorce and just hoped it would not be discovered. It was this - discovery of the bigamous marrige in 1858 - which led to the first wife seeking a divorce in my family. (It seems he - my 4 x gr-uncle - was never punished and remarried the 2nd wife to whom he remained devoted for the rest of his life) Finally, have you looked under the name GERMAN for a death? Jean Wood > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:51:35 -0500 > Subject: [NTT] Gladwin/Turner > > Dear list > > I?m hoping someone could help find out more about my G Grandfather William TURNER. This is going to take a bit to explain, so bear with me. This is going to be a bit long winded but I want to get everything down. > My Grandfather was George William TURNER. He was born 5 May 1906 in Hemswell Grange, Lincs. His birth cert. lists his parents as William TURNER and Ellen GLADWIN. I can?t find their marriage. I have found them in 1911 census in Elkesley, East Retford (RG14 Piece 20204). According to the census William was born in Kirton in Lindsay in abt. 1869.(FreeBMD has a couple good fits). Ellen was born abt. 1876 in Whittington, Derby(found her birth). It says they had 4 children. Joseph b.1896 in Whitwell, Derby, Elsie Mable b. 1900 in Whitwell, Derby, my grandfather George and Selina Lynn b. 1908. There is a 6 year gap between Elsie and George. Now here?s where it gets interesting. I tried to find them in 1901 and had no luck. I tried just putting Elsie?s first name and birthplace. I believe I found her in 1901 in Whitwell (piece 3129, folio 25, pg. 2) but with a different last name. In the household was Ellen, Joseph and Elsie but also a husband named Edward JERYMN. I was never abl! e to find to find Joseph or Elsie TURNER on the FreeBmd. I found them as JERYMN. Right dates and district. There is no death listed for a Edward JERYMN (JARMAN)(JERMYN) that fits until 1918. If you have been able to follow my ramblings, what do you think of my hypothesis? Is there a site that lists divorces? Did people just move on and not get a divorce? Should I spend the money and order either Joseph?s or Elsie?s birth cert to be sure or do you think I?m on the wrong track? > Thank you, if you have read this far, for taking the time. > > Karen Walker > Port Dover, Can > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message                         ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:38:29 +0000 From: Wendy Briscoe <[email protected]> Subject: [NTT] Brammer To: [email protected] Message-ID:     <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Listers, anyone researching the Brammer's from South leverton and Clarebrough willing to share information regarding this line. Kind regards Wendy ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 13:59:59 +1030 From: Julia Pannell <[email protected]> Subject: [NTT] HEATH - Mansfield Poor Law Union. (MAVIS JOHNSON)     -thanks To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii My thanks to Mavis, and I have also replied to her off list, Julia in Oz I am also interested in the Heath family as I have an indirect link - an > Alfred Cutts married a Maria Heath 21 April 1851 at Nottingham St. Marys. > Maria Heath in 1841 was at Cross Court, Radford, with her mother, also > Maria. > > By chance today while clearing some old paperwork I came across a document > dated 7 April 1846 giving names of the elected Guardians of the Mansfield > Poor Law Union showing that a John Heath, Farmer, Blidworth was one. > > I had downloaded this document from the internet as it also included Richard > Cutts, Malster, Mansfield.. > > Reference: Paper Number 4031/8/1846 > Poor Law Union Number 337 . > Counties: Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire. > > I hope this helps. > > Mavis ------------------------------ End of NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 48 ***************************************