On 24/02/2012 11:16 AM, MAVIS JOHNSON wrote: > Usually these courts were named after tradesmen who had a Yard there > or after a nearby pub - eg Three Tuns Yard in Radford where I have > nacestors, was named after the pub on Ilkeston Rd, Radford. > > Look for a Crown Pub and you may find the yard. > > I remember a Crown at the junction of Wollaton Road and Ilkeston Road, > and Radford Bridge Rd. > It is still there on the ring road roundabout on Western Boulevard. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Binns" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:47 AM > Subject: Re: [NTT] Crown Yard Radford > > >> David, >> >> On the 1891 census the family is living on Forster Street, Radford, >> and from >> this I can determine the name of your GGrandfather, which you didn't >> give in >> your request. >> He is William Harrison aged 35, hence born 1856. If you search on the >> 1881 >> census, which if you haven't got access to any of the subscription >> sites, is >> free on the LDS site, then you will find the family, this time with >> William's first wife, on Terrace Street, which is in Hyson Green. >> I don't have a large enough scale map to tell you where Crown Court >> was, but >> given that many children were born at a relative's house, especially a >> grandparent, then the place where the family was living may not >> indicate the >> birthplace. >> >> Brian Binns >> > > Brian My GGrandfather was John Harrison b 1847 @ Ilkeston . His father was Joseph Harrison 1813-1883 married to Phebe Burgin. John was married to Emma Bradley David Harrison

Bride's Surname Bride's Forename Groom's Surname Groom's Forename Date Church Note BRADLEY Emma HARRISON John 30/03/1875 NUTHALL 1881 censu Nuthall, Nottingham, PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3335 Folio 113 Page 7 Joseph HARRISON M 68 M Wood House, Derby, England Rel: Head Occ: Rag & Bone Dealer Phoebe HARRISON M 71 F Horsley, Derby, England Rel: Wife. > Brian > > My GGrandfather was John Harrison b 1847 @ Ilkeston . His father was > Joseph Harrison 1813-1883 married to Phebe Burgin. John was married to > Emma Bradley > > David Harrison

The Crown Inn you mention was built at the same time as the Ring Road and dates from the 1930s, so has no connection with Crown Yard. I do believe though that its name was transferred from another Crown Inn. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: David Harrison [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 24 February 2012 12:52 To: MAVIS JOHNSON; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NTT] Crown Yard Radford On 24/02/2012 11:16 AM, MAVIS JOHNSON wrote: > Usually these courts were named after tradesmen who had a Yard there > or after a nearby pub - eg Three Tuns Yard in Radford where I have > nacestors, was named after the pub on Ilkeston Rd, Radford. > > Look for a Crown Pub and you may find the yard. > > I remember a Crown at the junction of Wollaton Road and Ilkeston Road, > and Radford Bridge Rd. > It is still there on the ring road roundabout on Western Boulevard. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Binns" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:47 AM > Subject: Re: [NTT] Crown Yard Radford > > >> David, >> >> On the 1891 census the family is living on Forster Street, Radford, >> and from >> this I can determine the name of your GGrandfather, which you didn't >> give in >> your request. >> He is William Harrison aged 35, hence born 1856. If you search on the >> 1881 >> census, which if you haven't got access to any of the subscription >> sites, is >> free on the LDS site, then you will find the family, this time with >> William's first wife, on Terrace Street, which is in Hyson Green. >> I don't have a large enough scale map to tell you where Crown Court >> was, but >> given that many children were born at a relative's house, especially a >> grandparent, then the place where the family was living may not >> indicate the >> birthplace. >> >> Brian Binns >> > > Brian My GGrandfather was John Harrison b 1847 @ Ilkeston . His father was Joseph Harrison 1813-1883 married to Phebe Burgin. John was married to Emma Bradley David Harrison ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4828 - Release Date: 02/23/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4828 - Release Date: 02/23/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4828 - Release Date: 02/23/12

The William Harrison I advised previously from the 1891 census is still the only one I can find that matches i.e. born 1882 in Nottingham. This may sound a silly question, but it's happened before, to me for example, but are you certain that you have the correct GGrandfather? Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: David Harrison [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 24 February 2012 12:52 To: MAVIS JOHNSON; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NTT] Crown Yard Radford On 24/02/2012 11:16 AM, MAVIS JOHNSON wrote: > Usually these courts were named after tradesmen who had a Yard there > or after a nearby pub - eg Three Tuns Yard in Radford where I have > nacestors, was named after the pub on Ilkeston Rd, Radford. > > Look for a Crown Pub and you may find the yard. > > I remember a Crown at the junction of Wollaton Road and Ilkeston Road, > and Radford Bridge Rd. > It is still there on the ring road roundabout on Western Boulevard. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Binns" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 10:47 AM > Subject: Re: [NTT] Crown Yard Radford > > >> David, >> >> On the 1891 census the family is living on Forster Street, Radford, >> and from >> this I can determine the name of your GGrandfather, which you didn't >> give in >> your request. >> He is William Harrison aged 35, hence born 1856. If you search on the >> 1881 >> census, which if you haven't got access to any of the subscription >> sites, is >> free on the LDS site, then you will find the family, this time with >> William's first wife, on Terrace Street, which is in Hyson Green. >> I don't have a large enough scale map to tell you where Crown Court >> was, but >> given that many children were born at a relative's house, especially a >> grandparent, then the place where the family was living may not >> indicate the >> birthplace. >> >> Brian Binns >> > > Brian My GGrandfather was John Harrison b 1847 @ Ilkeston . His father was Joseph Harrison 1813-1883 married to Phebe Burgin. John was married to Emma Bradley David Harrison ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4828 - Release Date: 02/23/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4828 - Release Date: 02/23/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4828 - Release Date: 02/23/12