Thanks for the help everyone,I will go and look at Rootsweb for the Gypsys, if I find anything I will let you all know! Shirley ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2012, 8:00 Subject: NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 55 Today's Topics:   1. Re: NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 50 (Nivard Ovington)   2. Re: NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 50 (John Hardy)   3. Hucknall Torkard baptism - can anyone look one up please?       (Lin 5481)   4. Skeletons ([email protected])   5. Hargreaves (Maxine)   6. Re: Mary Hartley m 1838 East Retford (Peter  R Booth)   7. Fw: ROLL CALL-Marriott, Dewsbury Corbet, Cheetham, Straw,       Leivers, Paxton, Goddard, Bostock, Chamberlain, White,    Woodcock,       Attenborough, James, Wootton, Walker, Spencer, Daye,    ilkinson,       Burgeis, Hutchinson, Hulford (Margo and Scott) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:36:25 -0000 From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NTT] NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 50 To: "Frances Costello" <[email protected]>,    "Jean Wood"     <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original Your recollection is spot on Frances I have to say I did not think much of Tracy Emin before or after her show but having just watched a repeat of her episode I found it more enjoyable the second time around Likewise with Larry Lamb I did not think it was going to be very interesting (who is Larry Lamb was my question) but found it very good, that would be the one more relevant to Shirley I would say Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Jean & fellow listers > My recollection of the programs was :- > 1) Tracey Emin had a travellers background and > 2) Larry Lamb had travelling/circus connections > > Best wishes > Frances ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:47:33 -0000 From: "John Hardy" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NTT] NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 50 To: "Jean Wood" <[email protected]>,     <[email protected]>,    "Nottsgen" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original Shirley, Might be worth posting a request to rootsweb's Gypsy-genealogy message board:- http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.gypsy/mb.ashx John Hardy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Wood" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "Nottsgen" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [NTT] NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 50 > > Thank you; you are of course absolutely right! > > So, apart from the BBC, Shirley could also try contacting those two people > and see whether either can directly, or indirectly, guide her to their > sources.....maybe even others, not mentioned on the programme. > > Jean Wood > > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NTT] NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 50 >> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:56:02 +0000 >> >> Hi Jean & fellow listers >> My recollection of the programs was :- >> 1) Tracey Emin had a travellers background and >> 2) Larry Lamb had travelling/circus connections >> >> Best wishes >> Frances ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:10:53 +0000 From: Lin 5481 <[email protected]> Subject: [NTT] Hucknall Torkard baptism - can anyone look one up     please? To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Trying to find the baptism of a George or George William - surnname may be LAMPLOUGH.  Mother's name Sarah Ann PEET or PEAT. He was born about 1882  in Hucknall Torkard- his birth isn't on GRO under LAMPLOUGH. Is there anyone who is going to the Archives, prepared to have a quick look for a baptism in Hucknall Torkard around 1882? I suspect that George wasn't the son of the person he appeared with on 1891 census, nor were his 'father' and his mother married (I believe he was still married to another). His brother Tom or John Thomas and his sister Elizabeth Ann don't appear on GRO although the two younger ones do. I have found I think George with his father in 1901 with the surname SMITH and his mother and sisters elsewhere in Derbyshire - also with the surname SMITH. So what surname he was born with is anyone's guess. Lin A true friend walks in when the world walks out                         ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:18:43 -0500 (EST) From: [email protected] Subject: [NTT] Skeletons To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I have a similar story. I was born in Nottingham, but now live in the USA. During a visit to the  UK a very kind NOTTSGEN subscriber offered to meet me at the Nottingham  Archives to help me to do some research. Incidentally we were both researching  the "HUMBER" surname, I was looking for the marriage between Mary Humber  & Samuel Wakefield, Brenda was researching the marriage between Ann Humber  & John Housley. To cut a long story short we found that we were in actual  fact second or third cousins. But despite intense research Brenda could not find  the Ann Humber & John Housley marriage. Then one day my cousin Stuart, still living in Nottingham, upon my request  e-mailed me his family details. As a note he mentioned our mutual twin cousins  the Housleys but spelled it HOWSLEY.  A light went on in my head and  yes I found the marriage between John HOWSLEY & Ann  UMBER. Nottingham dialect! Incidently, I also discovered that my Housley  cousins, my dad's sister's twins, are also related to me thru the John Housley  & Ann Humber tree. And yes I really enjoy my new found cousin and of course the NOTTSGEN web  site, my link to home. Carole Bell (Wakefield Sneinton, Nottingham) Colorado USA ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:57:24 -0600 From: Maxine <[email protected]> Subject: [NTT] Hargreaves To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi Jan Have you researched  your HARGREAVES line? Maxine >Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 >From: "Jan Hargreaves" <[email protected]> > >I stared my family history in 1981 and Mum and Dad were fascinated, we found >out that My paternal grandfather was illigitimate which didn't suprise Dad, >but when I told my Uncle his reaction was 'of course she was married, she >had THREE children'. I had great difficulty find out when my Gt Grandmother >died until we realised that she was buried under the name of the man she was >living with at the time (still unmarried) > >Jan ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:16:12 +1100 From: "Peter  R Booth" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NTT] Mary Hartley m 1838 East Retford To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original Wendy,     Family Search has four possibilities. I think East Markham is probably the closest.     But the only way to know for sure is to buy the marriage certificate from GRO.     I know buying lots of certificates gets expensive, but, if you're selective, it can sometimes save weeks of searching and cost of travel to research centres.     It depends how much you want the data.     Peter ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:11:48 +1000 From: "Margo and Scott" <[email protected]> Subject: [NTT] Fw: ROLL CALL-Marriott, Dewsbury Corbet, Cheetham,     Straw,    Leivers, Paxton, Goddard, Bostock, Chamberlain, White,     Woodcock, Attenborough, James, Wootton, Walker, Spencer, Daye,     ilkinson, Burgeis, Hutchinson, Hulford To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="iso-8859-1" Hi List members, I have resubbed after some time and would like to list my interests: Marriott-Sutton Bonnington Dewsbury-Sutton Bonnington Corbet-Sutton Bonnington Cheetham- Nottingham, St Mary's Straw-Stapleford Leivers-Greasley Paxton-Greasley Goddoard-Unknown, but married in Greasley Bostock-Greasley Chamberlain-Nottinghamshire White-East Leake Woodcock-East Leake Attenborough-Clifton, Ruddington and East Leake James-Sutton Bonnington Wootton-Sutton Bonnington Walker-Ruddington Spencer-Gotham Daye-Gotham Wilkinson-unknown Burgeis-unknown Hutchinson-unknown but married Sutton Bonnington Hulford-unknown but married Sutton Bonnington I would love to hear from anyone with an interest in any of these families. Margot Gladstone, QLD ------------------------------ End of NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 55 ***************************************