Well: for the first time Nivard, I have not understood what you mean! I do not see how you can type in the character you are looking for - I tried and just found I was looking for details on my own system Windows 7 ! If I have wanted to check a character I type "Alt Codes" into a search box. I use it a lot, daily, but that is because I have an American keyboard ($ but no £) and no accents - and I live in France which uses them lavishly. In addition it offers Greek letters - good for maths! and ↓→ and ↑ which can be useful in simple trees. Also superscript numbers - useful for footnotes etc ² and symbols such as ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ which can be used for identification I used quite a lot when writing my Huguenot family history Have fun! Jean Wood http://www.cheziris.eu/Duterrau.htm > Message du 03/10/13 00:09 > De : "Nivard Ovington" > A : nottsgen@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [NTT] Alt codes (other oddments) > > For those interested, character map can be found in Win7 (and probably > Win8) by going to start button and typing character in the search box > > In the last 15 years or so of computer use I have need character map > perhaps twice > > Alt codes, schmalt codes > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > There is an accessory Windows program, foound on both Vista and Windows/7, > > entitled Character Map, which given a Font, will show you what glyphs > > (representations of characters) are available. It will also allow you to copy > > and paste characters into something else of a text nature. > > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On 2013/10/02 20:26, Jean WOOD wrote: > Thanks for that - ages ago I spent a LONG time tapping out masses of numbers > to find the symbols which appeared and was fascinated by the range that > popped up, but there were stil ones missing. > > Since then I have found a couple of websites giving lists but none of them > are complete after all it goes into the thousands -so I think there are lots > yet to discover. > > Meantime I will add these to my list tonight and print it out. I keep the > list stuck on the side of my hard drive and squint at it when I need > something! There is an accessory Windows program, foound on both Vista and Windows/7, entitled Character Map, which given a Font, will show you what glyphs (representations of characters) are available. It will also allow you to copy and paste characters into something else of a text nature. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

For those interested, character map can be found in Win7 (and probably Win8) by going to start button and typing character in the search box In the last 15 years or so of computer use I have need character map perhaps twice Alt codes, schmalt codes <bg> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > There is an accessory Windows program, foound on both Vista and Windows/7, > entitled Character Map, which given a Font, will show you what glyphs > (representations of characters) are available. It will also allow you to copy > and paste characters into something else of a text nature. >

There's a lot of history around these codes Jean. Originally, they accessed the '437 OEM code page' symbols with a 0-255 code (or the international 850 code page if enabled). The leading 0 was added later to enable people to select from the more modern 'ANSI code page' (i.e. 1252 for Western Europe) while keeping compatibility with the 'OEM code page'. Apparently there is also a way of selecting from the 65,000-or-so Unicode symbols but it usually needs a change to the registry. There's a good page about it at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt_code. If you have a laptop then there probably isn't a Num Lock key, but the instructions at http://usefulshortcuts.com/alt-codes/instructions-for-using-alt-Codes.php cover this. Tony Proctor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean WOOD" <jeangrahame@orange.fr> To: "Dai & Angela Bevan" <daibevan@clara.co.uk>; <nottsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 7:26 PM Subject: [NTT] Alt codes (other oddments) > Thanks for that - ages ago I spent a LONG time tapping out masses of > numbers to find the symbols which appeared and was fascinated by the range > that popped up, but there were stil ones missing. > > Since then I have found a couple of websites giving lists but none of them > are complete after all it goes into the thousands -so I think there are > lots yet to discover. > > Meantime I will add these to my list tonight and print it out. I keep the > list stuck on the side of my hard drive and squint at it when I need > something! > > Jean Wood > > > > > >> Message du 29/09/13 08:41 >> De : "Dai & Angela Bevan" >> A : nottsgen@rootsweb.com >> Copie à : >> Objet : Re: [NTT] OT Peaky Blinders + other oddments >> >> Jean, Alt code for ½ is 0189. See >> http://usefulshortcuts.com/alt-codes/maths-alt-codes.php for more. Dai On >> 28/09/2013 20:25, Jean WOOD wrote: > > 2. Computer tips: To get a £ sign >> hold down the Alt tab whilst the number pad is activated and type 156, >> similarly a € sign is Alt depressed and 0128. To get ½ as in ½ d either >> do it separately in Word and Copy and Paste, or also in Word "Insert >> Symbol" and you will find a ½ there. > > Jean Wood > > Notts Surname List >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for that - ages ago I spent a LONG time tapping out masses of numbers to find the symbols which appeared and was fascinated by the range that popped up, but there were stil ones missing. Since then I have found a couple of websites giving lists but none of them are complete after all it goes into the thousands -so I think there are lots yet to discover. Meantime I will add these to my list tonight and print it out. I keep the list stuck on the side of my hard drive and squint at it when I need something! Jean Wood > Message du 29/09/13 08:41 > De : "Dai & Angela Bevan" > A : nottsgen@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [NTT] OT Peaky Blinders + other oddments > > Jean, Alt code for ½ is 0189. See http://usefulshortcuts.com/alt-codes/maths-alt-codes.php for more. Dai On 28/09/2013 20:25, Jean WOOD wrote: > > 2. Computer tips: To get a £ sign hold down the Alt tab whilst the number pad is activated and type 156, similarly a € sign is Alt depressed and 0128. To get ½ as in ½ d either do it separately in Word and Copy and Paste, or also in Word "Insert Symbol" and you will find a ½ there. > > Jean Wood > > Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jane Taylor  posted this extract yesterday. Derby Mercury 6 December, 1804 DIED A few days ago, at Sion Hill, near Nottingham, much respected, in the 81st year of his age,  Mr George BEARDMORE, late of Shirland Park Mill, in this county.  Can anyone help with the exact location of the Mill at Shirland Park, or have any other details of this George Beardmore please?      Date of move to Nottingham and if he was in partnership with any other lacemaker? A George Beardmore married to a Susanna Elizabeth....... (Fwk and later Lace Manufacturer) who  baptised his daughters in 1813 at Nottingham St. Mary and in 1816 and 1818 at Radford St. Peters.     Mavis in Somerset

Hi, Thank you to the fellow researches who have taken the time to give me advise for further research into the ancestors of my George Ward. I will be looking at each suggestion one by one and really hope that I will be able to identify with time the family line of my George Ward. Regards, Jenny

Help please with finding the death of a Mary Jackson 80 years who appears in the 1841 Census residing in Thurgarton, Southwell Division. She does not appear in the 1851 Census and on checking the free BDM I have found lots of people of the same name who died in Southwell over that 10 year period. Her son was John Jackson who she was living with in 41. Can anyone assist with this or do I have to visit the records office. Thanks in anticipation. Paul Jackson

May I ask if the birth cert gives exactly here born as opposed to just the place ie instead of just 'Manchester" it would give born at --------- Manchester . Yes I know this is a Notts site but it all clicks in to my Notts research. Thanks Di McKee New Zealand researching VICKERS & MCKENZIE/MCCLELLAND ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington.one@gmail.com> To: <nottsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [NTT] George Ward Born Nottingham 27 December 1881 > Hi Jenny > > With a precise birth date I would order a birth certificate from the GRO > online *with no* GRO index reference, this when selected will enable > checking points to be entered, ie parents names and the date of birth > > If they find a match you get the certificate, which should have his > father and mothers names recorded, including her maiden name > > If no match is found you get a full refund > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 29/09/2013 09:09, Jenny, Andy and Megan wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have for years been searching with little success for the ancestors of >> my >> George Ward >> George Ward was born Nottingham 27 December 1881. >> >> Mother: Elizabeth Ward (nee unknown) >> Father: John Ward >> I have struggled to trace him on outward bound ship records due to the >> large >> numbers of WARD passengers who made the journey to South Africa between >> 1895 >> to 1913. >> George was in South Africa by 1914 when a son was born to him and his >> wife >> Daisy JOSE in Mayfair, Johannesburg, Transvaal, South Africa. >> This son was to be the first of 9 children born before his death in 1930 >> when his youngest son was only 6 weeks old. >> >> I am hoping that there are other WARD researches who may have a >> suitable >> branch to fit George into. >> >> Regards, >> >> Jenny > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Di, You might try Lancashire Online Parish Clerk. Never know if it covers to 1881 or what you might find. Peter

Hi Di (Hi? :-) Later birth certs (post 1900 at least I would say) are more likely to be more accurate address wise but for 1881 it may say just the area, or street You won't know without buying the cert unfortunately What period are you interested in? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 29/09/2013 22:24, Balloon Expedition Co. wrote: > May I ask if the birth cert gives exactly here born as opposed to just > the place ie instead of just 'Manchester" it would give born at > --------- Manchester . > > Yes I know this is a Notts site but it all clicks in to my Notts research. > Thanks > Di McKee

Hi, I have for years been searching with little success for the ancestors of my George Ward George Ward was born Nottingham 27 December 1881. Mother: Elizabeth Ward (nee unknown) Father: John Ward I have struggled to trace him on outward bound ship records due to the large numbers of WARD passengers who made the journey to South Africa between 1895 to 1913. George was in South Africa by 1914 when a son was born to him and his wife Daisy JOSE in Mayfair, Johannesburg, Transvaal, South Africa. This son was to be the first of 9 children born before his death in 1930 when his youngest son was only 6 weeks old. I am hoping that there are other WARD researches who may have a suitable branch to fit George into. Regards, Jenny

Hi Dai Alt code for ½ is also 171, 172 for ¼. Ruth > -----Original Message----- > From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dai & Angela Bevan > Sent: 29 September 2013 07:39 > To: nottsgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NTT] OT Peaky Blinders + other oddments > > Jean, > Alt code for ½ is 0189. See > http://usefulshortcuts.com/alt-codes/maths-alt-codes.php for more. > > Dai > > On 28/09/2013 20:25, Jean WOOD wrote: > > <snip> > > 2. Computer tips: To get a £ sign hold down the Alt tab > whilst the number pad is activated and type 156, similarly a > € sign is Alt depressed and 0128. To get ½ as in ½ d either > do it separately in Word and Copy and Paste, or also in Word > "Insert Symbol" and you will find a ½ there. > > > > Jean Wood > > > > > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all, I am replying to a recent comment about haircuts after the first world war, I replied to the email sent but my servers email is acting up and it has not appeared. The old rule of thumb was that if it is under your cap its yours; if its not; its off. Apart from being uniform for all servicemen body hair was kept to a minimum to prevent Lice. best regards Michael Duke

Hi Jenny With a precise birth date I would order a birth certificate from the GRO online *with no* GRO index reference, this when selected will enable checking points to be entered, ie parents names and the date of birth If they find a match you get the certificate, which should have his father and mothers names recorded, including her maiden name If no match is found you get a full refund Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 29/09/2013 09:09, Jenny, Andy and Megan wrote: > Hi, > > I have for years been searching with little success for the ancestors of my > George Ward > George Ward was born Nottingham 27 December 1881. > > Mother: Elizabeth Ward (nee unknown) > Father: John Ward > I have struggled to trace him on outward bound ship records due to the large > numbers of WARD passengers who made the journey to South Africa between 1895 > to 1913. > George was in South Africa by 1914 when a son was born to him and his wife > Daisy JOSE in Mayfair, Johannesburg, Transvaal, South Africa. > This son was to be the first of 9 children born before his death in 1930 > when his youngest son was only 6 weeks old. > > I am hoping that there are other WARD researches who may have a suitable > branch to fit George into. > > Regards, > > Jenny

Hello all, a rule of thumb years ago was if it is under your cap its yours, otherwise it is army uniform and their jurisdiction, It also reduces the prospect of head lice. Michael Duke ________________________________ From: david wilson <djwilson22@yahoo.com> To: nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 29 September 2013, 7:24 Subject: Re: [NTT] OT Peaky Blinders + other oddments Jean , thanks for the comments , glad its not just me watching ! I've heard that the makers of the series went to a lot of trouble to get it authentic, even using the vocal accents of that time rather than the broad brummie of today . With regard to the haircuts , I assumed that as the gang were mainly ex WW1 soldiers that they were trying to maintain a military look and this was probably an army style haircut of that time , though others may know differently ------------------------------ On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 8:25 PM BST Jean WOOD wrote: >I too am finding this very interesting >a couple of questions/comments > >Furnaces in 1920s - probably - I went to training college in Bletchley Park 1961-1963 inclusive - yes, on that very same site as the Enigma workers in converted concrete bunkers! - and occasionally we were allowed out. >When we went to London by train just a little south (7-10 miles) we passed through areas in Bedfordshire where there were massive brickworks. The furnaces were spectacular at night and were the indication to gather our stuff together on our way back. > >The sulphur emitted meant that the wire mesh netting round the tennis courts rotted and had to be replaced every two years. > >I would love to know where the logic for the close shaved side of the head hairdo comes from. I have never seen that before - was that one of the gang "badges"? > >2. Computer tips: To get a £ sign hold down the Alt tab whilst the number pad is activated and type 156, similarly a € sign is Alt depressed and 0128. To get ½ as in ½ d either do it separately in Word and Copy and Paste, or also in Word "Insert Symbol" and you will find a ½ there. > >Jean Wood > > > > > >> Message du 14/09/13 13:39 >> De : "david wilson" >> A : "nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com" >> Copie à : >> Objet : [NTT] OT Peaky Blinders >> >> With apologies to Ted and others abroad there is another new BBC period series worth catching , for those able to view it or when it comes round . >> >> Its about a group of thugs in the Birmingham area just after WW1 . They generally ran betting and protection rackets in the city , as well as carrying out muggings . Called the Peaky Blinders because they had razor blades sown into the peaks of their caps . >> >> For those with newspaper archive access , there are plenty of references to Peaky Blinders , though can't see any references to the Shelby name in the TV series linked to them . Most of the stories in the papers I have found so far , seem to be from the late 1800s and seem to be for the more petty crimes . >> >> For me , it was not the actual story but the setting , in a gritty inner city area just after WW1 . I had relatives in the less savoury areas of Nottingham and can imagine some of it could have looked similar at the time . >> >> I doubt Nottingham had so many open furnaces burning throughout the night in the city streets but the other street and pub / cinema scenes may have been typical of the time . >> >> >> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p01fj94w/Peaky_Blinders_Episode_1/ >> >> >> Notts Surname List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jean, Alt code for ½ is 0189. See http://usefulshortcuts.com/alt-codes/maths-alt-codes.php for more. Dai On 28/09/2013 20:25, Jean WOOD wrote: > <snip> > 2. Computer tips: To get a £ sign hold down the Alt tab whilst the number pad is activated and type 156, similarly a € sign is Alt depressed and 0128. To get ½ as in ½ d either do it separately in Word and Copy and Paste, or also in Word "Insert Symbol" and you will find a ½ there. > > Jean Wood > >

Hi Jenny , Having a bit of a problem getting on Find My Past today as it busy but of the three George Wards that appear on the 1891 Census , the most likely appears to be the one living with a number of children at :  Town Street, Ollerton . Parents : Jonathan Ward born 1854 (Ollerton) Gamekeeper                  Elizabeth Ward born 1851 There is a marriage for a Jonathan Ward to an Elizabeth Sprowell , Bingham district , Sep 1879 . Any of this sound likely ?  ________________________________ From: "Jenny, Andy and Megan" <spruytj@paradise.net.nz> To: nottsgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 9:09 AM Subject: [NTT] George Ward Born Nottingham 27 December 1881 Hi, I have for years been searching with little success for the ancestors of my George Ward George Ward was born Nottingham 27 December  1881. Mother: Elizabeth Ward (nee unknown) Father: John Ward I have struggled to trace him on outward bound ship records due to the large numbers of WARD passengers who made the journey to South Africa between 1895 to 1913. George was in South Africa by 1914 when a son was born to him and his wife Daisy JOSE in Mayfair, Johannesburg, Transvaal, South Africa. This son was to be the first of 9 children born before his death in 1930 when his youngest son was only 6 weeks old. I am hoping that there are other WARD researches who may have a suitable branch to fit George into. Regards, Jenny Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jean , thanks for the comments , glad its not just me watching ! I've heard that the makers of the series went to a lot of trouble to get it authentic, even using the vocal accents of that time rather than the broad brummie of today . With regard to the haircuts , I assumed that as the gang were mainly ex WW1 soldiers that they were trying to maintain a military look and this was probably an army style haircut of that time , though others may know differently ------------------------------ On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 8:25 PM BST Jean WOOD wrote: >I too am finding this very interesting >a couple of questions/comments > >Furnaces in 1920s - probably - I went to training college in Bletchley Park 1961-1963 inclusive - yes, on that very same site as the Enigma workers in converted concrete bunkers! - and occasionally we were allowed out. >When we went to London by train just a little south (7-10 miles) we passed through areas in Bedfordshire where there were massive brickworks. The furnaces were spectacular at night and were the indication to gather our stuff together on our way back. > >The sulphur emitted meant that the wire mesh netting round the tennis courts rotted and had to be replaced every two years. > >I would love to know where the logic for the close shaved side of the head hairdo comes from. I have never seen that before - was that one of the gang "badges"? > >2. Computer tips: To get a £ sign hold down the Alt tab whilst the number pad is activated and type 156, similarly a € sign is Alt depressed and 0128. To get ½ as in ½ d either do it separately in Word and Copy and Paste, or also in Word "Insert Symbol" and you will find a ½ there. > >Jean Wood > > > > > >> Message du 14/09/13 13:39 >> De : "david wilson" >> A : "nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com" >> Copie à : >> Objet : [NTT] OT Peaky Blinders >> >> With apologies to Ted and others abroad there is another new BBC period series worth catching , for those able to view it or when it comes round . >> >> Its about a group of thugs in the Birmingham area just after WW1 . They generally ran betting and protection rackets in the city , as well as carrying out muggings . Called the Peaky Blinders because they had razor blades sown into the peaks of their caps . >> >> For those with newspaper archive access , there are plenty of references to Peaky Blinders , though can't see any references to the Shelby name in the TV series linked to them . Most of the stories in the papers I have found so far , seem to be from the late 1800s and seem to be for the more petty crimes . >> >> For me , it was not the actual story but the setting , in a gritty inner city area just after WW1 . I had relatives in the less savoury areas of Nottingham and can imagine some of it could have looked similar at the time . >> >> I doubt Nottingham had so many open furnaces burning throughout the night in the city streets but the other street and pub / cinema scenes may have been typical of the time . >> >> >> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p01fj94w/Peaky_Blinders_Episode_1/ >> >> >> Notts Surname List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>

I too am finding this very interesting a couple of questions/comments Furnaces in 1920s - probably - I went to training college in Bletchley Park 1961-1963 inclusive - yes, on that very same site as the Enigma workers in converted concrete bunkers! - and occasionally we were allowed out. When we went to London by train just a little south (7-10 miles) we passed through areas in Bedfordshire where there were massive brickworks. The furnaces were spectacular at night and were the indication to gather our stuff together on our way back. The sulphur emitted meant that the wire mesh netting round the tennis courts rotted and had to be replaced every two years. I would love to know where the logic for the close shaved side of the head hairdo comes from. I have never seen that before - was that one of the gang "badges"? 2. Computer tips: To get a £ sign hold down the Alt tab whilst the number pad is activated and type 156, similarly a € sign is Alt depressed and 0128. To get ½ as in ½ d either do it separately in Word and Copy and Paste, or also in Word "Insert Symbol" and you will find a ½ there. Jean Wood > Message du 14/09/13 13:39 > De : "david wilson" > A : "nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com" > Copie à : > Objet : [NTT] OT Peaky Blinders > > With apologies to Ted and others abroad there is another new BBC period series worth catching , for those able to view it or when it comes round . > > Its about a group of thugs in the Birmingham area just after WW1 . They generally ran betting and protection rackets in the city , as well as carrying out muggings . Called the Peaky Blinders because they had razor blades sown into the peaks of their caps . > > For those with newspaper archive access , there are plenty of references to Peaky Blinders , though can't see any references to the Shelby name in the TV series linked to them . Most of the stories in the papers I have found so far , seem to be from the late 1800s and seem to be for the more petty crimes . > > For me , it was not the actual story but the setting , in a gritty inner city area just after WW1 . I had relatives in the less savoury areas of Nottingham and can imagine some of it could have looked similar at the time . > > I doubt Nottingham had so many open furnaces burning throughout the night in the city streets but the other street and pub / cinema scenes may have been typical of the time . > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p01fj94w/Peaky_Blinders_Episode_1/ > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >