On 2013/11/06 03:30, Ann Bassford wrote: > Is there anyone out there who is also in the Notts FHS who are getting > what I will call '*begging emails*' supposedly from Dominic Johnson and > Mary Ellis? It's not the FHS site, but the address books of the two people concerned that have been hijacked and used to send these stupid messages. The messages probably trace back to some Nigerian or Chinese (seen a lot of them) scam artist ;-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Hey Christine, glad you got a result. From the marriage Nivard found (I didn't have time to look) I presume it was her with the Millan family. Kara ________________________________ From: Christine <chrissy36_nj@comcast.net> To: NOTTSGEN@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 4 November 2013 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [NTT] 1861 Census for surname QUINN  I believe I have the right 1861 census now. I received multiple responses thanks Everyone for the help. Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

sorry I accidentally hit send before I put in who I was and why This was sent to me for All Souls Day and seemed appropriate for our genealogy discussions sorry if I offend Di McKee

Liverpool Catholic Marriages (Ancestry) Oct 2nd 1853 Parish St Anthony John MILLAN Ellen QUINN Johns parents John & Mary Ellens Michael & Anne Witnesses John MAHER? & Anne QUINN Priest P J GRAY Source Citation: Liverpool Record Office; Liverpool, England; Liber Matrimoniorum; Reference Number: 282 ANT/2/2. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03/11/2013 21:28, Nivard Ovington wrote: > As you say Kara > > Looks promising > > > England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about John Millan > Name: John Millan > Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1853 > Registration District: Liverpool > Inferred County: Lancashire > Volume Number: 8b > Page Number: 453 > Records on Page: > Name > Jane Keating > John Millan > Ellen Quinn > Lawrence Ruddy

As you say Kara Looks promising England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about John Millan Name: John Millan Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1853 Registration District: Liverpool Inferred County: Lancashire Volume Number: 8b Page Number: 453 Records on Page: Name Jane Keating John Millan Ellen Quinn Lawrence Ruddy Source Information: FreeBMD. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03/11/2013 21:21, Kara Oosterman wrote: > Hi Everyone > > Try this one: > Ann Quinn > Age:25 > Estimated Birth Year:abt 1836 > Relation:Sister-in-law > Gender:Female > Where born:Ireland > Civil Parish:Liverpool > Ecclesiastical parish:St Alban > County/Island:Lancashire > Country:England > Street Address:8 Elson St(? not easy to read) > Occupation: House servant > Condition as to marriage:single > Registration District:Liverpool > Sub-registration District:St Martin > ED, institution, or vessel:25 > Household Schedule Number:20 > RG Piece: 2652Folio: 182Page Number: 5 > Household Members: > head John MILLAN 44dock labourer Ireland > wife Ellen31 bread bakerIreland > dau Mary 2 > son John 1m > > Regards > > Kara

Hi Tony Howard street was the registrar's sub-district From Ancestry 1861 England Census about Patrick Quinn Name: Patrick Quinn Age: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Quinn Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration District: Liverpool Sub-registration District: Howard Street ED, institution, or vessel: 5f Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 162 Piece: 2660 Folio: 28 Page Number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Patrick Quinn 44 Ann Quinn 43 John J Quinn 19 Mary Quinn 16 Patrick Quinn 12 Margret Quinn 5 Michael Quinn 28 Patrick Brown 44 Mary Mc Nally 40 Bridget Mc Nally 36 Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 2660; Folio: 28; Page: 50; GSU roll: 543008. The transcript on familysearch is findmypasts but they cleverly leave off the sub-district on their own site but do mention it on the viewable part on familysearch Patrick Quinn Head England and Wales Census, 1861 birth: 1817 Ireland census: 1861 Liverpool, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Name Patrick Quinn Event Type Census Event Date 1861 Gender Male Age 44 Relationship to Head of Household Head Birthplace Ireland Schedule Type Household Registration District Liverpool Sub-District 2 Howard Street Ecclesiastical Parish St Stephens Parish Liverpool Residence County Lancashire Where FMP found the "2" Howard street is less easy to work out Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03/11/2013 19:50, Tony Proctor wrote: > There's something odd going on here Christine. I found the FamilySearch > entry and followed it back to findmypast. The page reference is the same as > the one I sent earlier [RG9/2660/28/50], and the address is the same (47 > Addison St), but the people are different. There's a whole load of people in > the household missing in the transcription, including Patrick & Ann Quinn. I > counted 15 people in that household. > > It seems that there are 2 'Heads'. When I looked for Michael in findmypast, > it only gave his half of the household, but when I looked for Patrick then > it only gave me his half of the household. > > New household members... > > QUINN, Patrick - Head - Married - 44 - 1817 - Dealer In Clothes - Ireland > QUINN, Ann - Wife - Married - 43 - 1818 - - Ireland > QUINN, John J - Son - Unmarried - 19 - 1842 - Assistant Book Keeper -

Findmypast is the partner site of FamilySearch Christine. They are using the same census-page reference so there is no mistake related to it being from findmypast rather than Ancestry. The reference you found in FamilySearch must have either been the wrong Michael or Ann was living/working away from home. I can see four unmarried Ann Quinns of about the right age who was born in Ireland. Tony Proctor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine" <chrissy36_nj@comcast.net> To: "'Tony Proctor'" <tony@proctor.net> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 8:15 PM Subject: RE: [NTT] 1861 Census for surname QUINN > Tony, > > It's the wrong one for some reason family search is going by find my past > not ancestry. > > My 3rd great Grandfather Michael Quinn born in Ireland I can't give a > specific birth date cause I don't know how many kids he had yet. But I do > know he has a daughter named Ann Quinn born in Ireland in 1836 married in > 1866 to Thomas Hackett in England. I have the transcript of the marriage > and > it says her father is Michael. > > Ann Quinn Born 1836 in Ireland living in Liverpool Lancashire England with > her father Michael. > > > Christine > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Proctor [mailto:tony@proctor.net] > Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 2:50 PM > To: Christine > Cc: NOTTSGEN@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NTT] 1861 Census for surname QUINN > > There's something odd going on here Christine. I found the FamilySearch > entry and followed it back to findmypast. The page reference is the same > as > the one I sent earlier [RG9/2660/28/50], and the address is the same (47 > Addison St), but the people are different. There's a whole load of people > in > the household missing in the transcription, including Patrick & Ann Quinn. > I > counted 15 people in that household. > > It seems that there are 2 'Heads'. When I looked for Michael in > findmypast, > it only gave his half of the household, but when I looked for Patrick then > it only gave me his half of the household. > > New household members... > > QUINN, Patrick - Head - Married - 44 - 1817 - Dealer In Clothes - Ireland > QUINN, Ann - Wife - Married - 43 - 1818 - - Ireland QUINN, John J - Son - > Unmarried - 19 - 1842 - Assistant Book Keeper - Ireland QUINN, Mary - > Daughter - Unmarried - 16 - 1845 - Dealer In Fish - Ireland QUINN, > Patrick - > Son - Unmarried - 12 - 1849 - - Ireland QUINN, Margret - Daughter - > Unmarried - 5 - 1856 - - Liverpool QUINN, Michael - Boarder - Unmarried - > 28 > - 1833 - Labourer - Ireland BROWN, Patrick - Boarder - Unmarried - 44 - > 1817 > - Joiner - Ireland MCNALLY, Mary - Boarder - Unmarried - 40 - 1821 - > Dealer > In Fish - Ireland MCNALLY, Bridget - Boarder - Unmarried - 36 - 1825 - > Dealer In Fish - Ireland > > Still no indication of where FamilySearch got '2 Howard St' from. I guess > they have a problem. > > Tony Proctor > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine" <chrissy36_nj@comcast.net> > To: "'Tony Proctor'" <tony@proctor.net> > Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 6:13 PM > Subject: RE: [NTT] 1861 Census for surname QUINN > > >> Tony, >> >> I haven't a clue either I copied and pasted what family search had, I'm >> looking for the parents of my 2 great grandmother Ann QUINN married name >> Hackett she married in 1866 so I was hoping I could find her 1861 census >> with her parents..I know they were in Liverpool but she was born in >> Ireland. >> And I have her father's information from her marriage and his name is >> Michael.. >> >> Thanks for looking though >> >> Christine >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tony Proctor [mailto:tony@proctor.net] >> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 12:59 PM >> To: Christine >> Subject: Re: [NTT] 1861 Census for surname QUINN >> >> I see the following people on census page RG09/2660/28/50 Christine. The >> age >> and area match but I don't see where the '2 Howard St' comes from >> >> QUINN, Michael - Head - Married - 44 - 1817 - Labourer - Ireland QUINN, >> Bridget - Wife - Married - 40 - 1821 - - Ireland QUINN, Bridget - >> Daughter - >> Unmarried - 7 - 1854 - - Liverpool MCNALLY, Mary - Boarder - Widow - 50 - >> 1811 - - Ireland MCNALLY, Bridget - Boarder - Unmarried - 21 - 1840 - - >> Ireland >> >> Addr: 47 Addison Street, Liverpool >> >> Tony Proctor >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Christine" <chrissy36_nj@comcast.net> >> To: <NOTTSGEN@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 5:27 PM >> Subject: [NTT] 1861 Census for surname QUINN >> >> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> >>> I'm in need of the 1861 Census transcript for Michael Quinn. I need to >>> know who his wife is and any kids trying to locate my 3rd Great >>> grandparents. Here is the info that family search gave me but not much >>> information. >>> >>> Name: Michael Quinn >>> Event Type: Census >>> Event Date: 1861 >>> Gender: Male >>> Age: 44 >>> Relationship to Head of Household: Head >>> Birthplace: Ireland >>> Schedule Type: Household >>> Registration District: Liverpool >>> Sub-District: 2 Howard Street >>> Ecclesiastical Parish: St Stephens >>> Parish: Liverpool >>> Residence County: Lancashire >>> >>> >>> Thanks for the help, >>> >>> Christine >>> >>> >>> >>> Notts Surname List >>> >>> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > >

There's something odd going on here Christine. I found the FamilySearch entry and followed it back to findmypast. The page reference is the same as the one I sent earlier [RG9/2660/28/50], and the address is the same (47 Addison St), but the people are different. There's a whole load of people in the household missing in the transcription, including Patrick & Ann Quinn. I counted 15 people in that household. It seems that there are 2 'Heads'. When I looked for Michael in findmypast, it only gave his half of the household, but when I looked for Patrick then it only gave me his half of the household. New household members... QUINN, Patrick - Head - Married - 44 - 1817 - Dealer In Clothes - Ireland QUINN, Ann - Wife - Married - 43 - 1818 - - Ireland QUINN, John J - Son - Unmarried - 19 - 1842 - Assistant Book Keeper - Ireland QUINN, Mary - Daughter - Unmarried - 16 - 1845 - Dealer In Fish - Ireland QUINN, Patrick - Son - Unmarried - 12 - 1849 - - Ireland QUINN, Margret - Daughter - Unmarried - 5 - 1856 - - Liverpool QUINN, Michael - Boarder - Unmarried - 28 - 1833 - Labourer - Ireland BROWN, Patrick - Boarder - Unmarried - 44 - 1817 - Joiner - Ireland MCNALLY, Mary - Boarder - Unmarried - 40 - 1821 - Dealer In Fish - Ireland MCNALLY, Bridget - Boarder - Unmarried - 36 - 1825 - Dealer In Fish - Ireland Still no indication of where FamilySearch got '2 Howard St' from. I guess they have a problem. Tony Proctor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine" <chrissy36_nj@comcast.net> To: "'Tony Proctor'" <tony@proctor.net> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 6:13 PM Subject: RE: [NTT] 1861 Census for surname QUINN > Tony, > > I haven't a clue either I copied and pasted what family search had, I'm > looking for the parents of my 2 great grandmother Ann QUINN married name > Hackett she married in 1866 so I was hoping I could find her 1861 census > with her parents..I know they were in Liverpool but she was born in > Ireland. > And I have her father's information from her marriage and his name is > Michael.. > > Thanks for looking though > > Christine > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony Proctor [mailto:tony@proctor.net] > Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 12:59 PM > To: Christine > Subject: Re: [NTT] 1861 Census for surname QUINN > > I see the following people on census page RG09/2660/28/50 Christine. The > age > and area match but I don't see where the '2 Howard St' comes from > > QUINN, Michael - Head - Married - 44 - 1817 - Labourer - Ireland QUINN, > Bridget - Wife - Married - 40 - 1821 - - Ireland QUINN, Bridget - > Daughter - > Unmarried - 7 - 1854 - - Liverpool MCNALLY, Mary - Boarder - Widow - 50 - > 1811 - - Ireland MCNALLY, Bridget - Boarder - Unmarried - 21 - 1840 - - > Ireland > > Addr: 47 Addison Street, Liverpool > > Tony Proctor > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine" <chrissy36_nj@comcast.net> > To: <NOTTSGEN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 5:27 PM > Subject: [NTT] 1861 Census for surname QUINN > > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> >> I'm in need of the 1861 Census transcript for Michael Quinn. I need to >> know who his wife is and any kids trying to locate my 3rd Great >> grandparents. Here is the info that family search gave me but not much >> information. >> >> Name: Michael Quinn >> Event Type: Census >> Event Date: 1861 >> Gender: Male >> Age: 44 >> Relationship to Head of Household: Head >> Birthplace: Ireland >> Schedule Type: Household >> Registration District: Liverpool >> Sub-District: 2 Howard Street >> Ecclesiastical Parish: St Stephens >> Parish: Liverpool >> Residence County: Lancashire >> >> >> Thanks for the help, >> >> Christine >> >> >> >> Notts Surname List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Everyone, I believe I have the right 1861 census now. I received multiple responses thanks Everyone for the help. Christine

Hi Everyone   Try this one: Ann Quinn Age:25 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1836 Relation:Sister-in-law Gender:Female Where born:Ireland Civil Parish:Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish:St Alban County/Island:Lancashire Country:England Street Address:8 Elson St(? not easy to read) Occupation: House servant Condition as to marriage:single Registration District:Liverpool Sub-registration District:St Martin ED, institution, or vessel:25 Household Schedule Number:20 RG Piece: 2652Folio: 182Page Number: 5 Household Members: head John MILLAN 44dock labourer Ireland wife Ellen31 bread bakerIreland dau Mary 2 son John 1m   Regards   Kara   ________________________________

Hi Everyone, I'm in need of the 1861 Census transcript for Michael Quinn. I need to know who his wife is and any kids trying to locate my 3rd Great grandparents. Here is the info that family search gave me but not much information. Name: Michael Quinn Event Type: Census Event Date: 1861 Gender: Male Age: 44 Relationship to Head of Household: Head Birthplace: Ireland Schedule Type: Household Registration District: Liverpool Sub-District: 2 Howard Street Ecclesiastical Parish: St Stephens Parish: Liverpool Residence County: Lancashire Thanks for the help, Christine

Hi Di I don't think you need to apologise as I can't see that a post from you arrived on a list as far as I can tell :-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03/11/2013 11:15, Balloon Expedition Co. wrote: > sorry I accidentally hit send before I put in who I was and why > This was sent to me for All Souls Day and seemed appropriate for our genealogy discussions > > sorry if I offend > Di McKee

Thanks Brian for your helpful explanation, I've often wondered where the saying came from,and also why my mum used it so often! Lin In a message dated 01/11/2013 14:53:07 GMT Standard Time, bnbinns@gmail.com writes: Narrow Marsh was the street running through the centre of one of the most notorious slums of Nottingham in the early part of the 20th century, giving its name to the surrounding area. Later it was named Red Lion Street after the eponymous pub on that thoroughfare. I can imagine a cross reference to an untidy house, but given the almost total lack of greenery in the Narrow Marsh area, the likening to an untidy garden is odd. Funnily enough I have never ever heard this expression, but then again my ancestors came from Radford, New Basford, and Hyson Green where this expression might never had been used. When the Narrow Marsh area was cleared in the 1930s the occupants were in the main rehoused on Council Estates- can't recall which ones - so perhaps this expression was used by recently rehoused folk. There is lots of information on the net about Narrow Marsh, including lots of photos for instance on www.picturethepast.org.uk Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lcsearch3528@aol.com Sent: 01 November 2013 14:33 To: tony@proctor.net; djwilson22@yahoo.com; nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NTT] Find my Past - Narrow Marsh When I was a girl if our house or garden looked slightly untidy, my mother used to say that 'It looks like Narrow Marsh'! Does anyone have any idea where this phrase came from and why? Lin (nee Harrison) In a message dated 01/11/2013 09:38:32 GMT Standard Time, tony@proctor.net writes: I have ancestors from the Narrow Marsh (or Red Lion St) area - usually Watts - and ancestors with the surname Burton. However, this Annie Elizabeth Burton doesn't figure in any of my research so far. I'd be interested for any details on her David. Tony Proctor ----- Original Message ----- From: "david wilson" <djwilson22@yahoo.com> To: <nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [NTT] Find my Past Well have been experimenting with online ocr sites and this site was one of the easiest to use and was perfect for converting a modern pdf invoice from my inbox to an editable.txt file , no trouble at all ......however it really struggled with old news- type from the news archives , kept getting a message saying image "image quality too poor ". http://free-online-ocr.com/ Eventually I managed to produce the following 16 lines of text after pasting part of a column into Paint . Then saving as a .jpg and then using Windows photo gallery to turn the contrast right up , so I ended up with with black type on a white background rather than the "muddy" background of old newspapers . It seems to struggle with longer columns of print though so is probably more trouble than its worth ! This is the unedited result from a piece about Narrow Marsh : Oonvicted on the pr~ ions evening of the manslauffhteJ of Annie Elizabeth Burton, in Narrow-marsh, on the l5th of September last, was brought up for sentence. ~ On being asked by the Clerk of Arraigns whether he had anything to say why jaugment should not be nassed upon him, be said, ~ 61 hope your lordship will be as lenient to me as you nD." The Judge said : James Temporif. you have been tried for the wilful murder of Annie Elizabeth Burton, who was jiving wftft you, and have been found guilty of ~ They have come to that conclusion. I :lo not know on what gnunds, but that is the view they nave taken, and you have the benefit of it. There was some evidence given to chow your kindness to the woman and the children. and that may have affected ,he view the jury took of your case ; but thfs is not a `^~ ~- ^ ~* r ^an tuba Ihtn rnna{darnhnn Ti T a..n),l On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:09 PM, Balloon Expedition Co. <balexped@ihug.co.nz> wrote: What if you right click on the image and copy to folder ? Di ----- Original Message ----- From: "david wilson" <djwilson22@yahoo.com> To: <nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [NTT] Find my Past > Thanks Roy , don't have MSWord , only have Wordpad and just tried it but > if you copy and paste from the downloaded pdf it just appears as an > un-editable image. > > > > On Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:45 AM, Mike Fry <fredbonzo@iafrica.com> > wrote: > > On 2013/10/31 12:24, david wilson wrote: > >> Does anyone know how to get the news articles from that site into an >> editable >> text ? There are some long articles that would take an age to re-type . > > You need MS Word or LibreOffice/OpenOffice Writer. > > The basic process is to copy the webpage in its entirety to a new > document. If > you're clever, you can select just the part of the webpage containing the > text > of the article, and copy that. > > Start a new, empty document and Paste what you've copied from the webpage. > With > LibreOffice and OpenOffice Writer, this can be pasted in several ways, but > the > best choice is probably as HTML. Then, what you get looks more or less > like what > appears on the web. > >>From there, it all depends on what you want to do with the document. > > If you want more details, contact me off-list. > > -- > Regards, > Mike Fry > Johannesburg > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

FamilySearch has a Samuel DOUGHTY born 15 Jun 1786 baptised by John and Elizath in Sutton Bonington St Ann on 11 Jul 1786. NottsFHS index does not record this though it does have - same dates, same place - Alice DOUGHTY d. Thomas and Elizabeth - which FamilySearch also has. I would be very grateful if someone who was in the Notts Archives could take a look at Sutton Bonington St Ann register for that date and see whether Samuel appears there. With thanks in advance, Bill

I now understand why there was a bit of confusion over my recent question on editing text from the newpaper archives . Thanks to Judy who has tried both versions . She tells me that the version on British Newspaper Archives has a built in simultaneous OCR function window that you can copy and paste text from . The version I use on Find My Past doesn't have this , (unless I have missed a tab somewhere) . So when my subscription runs out with FMP perhaps I will swop , as I use the old newspaper part much more than the family history . ------------------------------ On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 9:36 PM GMT J K gen wrote: >I still don't understand why you don't use the British Newspaper Archives >own website. Is it not compatible with your computer/software? >JK > > >On 31 October 2013 17:25, david wilson <djwilson22@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Well have been experimenting with online ocr sites and this site was one >> of the easiest to use and was perfect for converting a modern pdf invoice >> from my inbox to an editable.txt file , no trouble at all ......however it >> really struggled with old news- type from the news archives , kept getting >> a message saying image "image quality too poor ". >> >> http://free-online-ocr.com/ >> >> >> Eventually I managed to produce the following 16 lines of text after >> pasting part of a column into Paint . Then saving as a .jpg and then using >> Windows photo gallery to turn the contrast right up , so I ended up with >> with black type on a white background rather than the "muddy" background of >> old newspapers . It seems to struggle with longer columns of print though >> so is probably more trouble than its worth ! >> >> This is the unedited result from a piece about Narrow Marsh : >> >> Oonvicted on the pr~ ions evening of the manslauffhteJ >> of Annie Elizabeth Burton, in Narrow-marsh, on the >> l5th of September last, was brought up for sentence. >> ~ On being asked by the Clerk of Arraigns whether he >> had anything to say why jaugment should not be nassed >> upon him, be said, ~ 61 hope your lordship will be as >> lenient to me as you nD." >> The Judge said : James Temporif. you have been >> tried for the wilful murder of Annie Elizabeth Burton, >> who was jiving wftft you, and have been found guilty of >> ~ They have come to that conclusion. I >> :lo not know on what gnunds, but that is the view they >> nave taken, and you have the benefit of it. There was >> some evidence given to chow your kindness to the >> woman and the children. and that may have affected >> ,he view the jury took of your case ; but thfs is not a >> `^~ ~- ^ ~* r ^an tuba Ihtn rnna{darnhnn Ti T a..n),l >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:09 PM, Balloon Expedition Co. < >> balexped@ihug.co.nz> wrote: >> >> What if you right click on the image and copy to folder ? >> Di >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "david wilson" <djwilson22@yahoo.com> >> To: <nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:53 PM >> Subject: Re: [NTT] Find my Past >> >> >> > Thanks Roy , don't have MSWord , only have Wordpad and just tried it but >> > if you copy and paste from the downloaded pdf it just appears as an >> > un-editable image. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:45 AM, Mike Fry <fredbonzo@iafrica.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> > On 2013/10/31 12:24, david wilson wrote: >> > >> > Does anyone know how to get the news articles from that site into an >> > editable >> > text ? There are some long articles that would take an age to re-type . >> > >> > You need MS Word or LibreOffice/OpenOffice Writer. >> > >> > The basic process is to copy the webpage in its entirety to a new >> > document. If >> > you're clever, you can select just the part of the webpage containing the >> > text >> > of the article, and copy that. >> > >> > Start a new, empty document and Paste what you've copied from the >> webpage. >> > With >> > LibreOffice and OpenOffice Writer, this can be pasted in several ways, >> but >> > the >> > best choice is probably as HTML. Then, what you get looks more or less >> > like what >> > appears on the web. >> > >> >From there, it all depends on what you want to do with the document. >> > >> > If you want more details, contact me off-list. >> > >> > -- >> > Regards, >> > Mike Fry >> > Johannesburg >> > >> > >> > >> > Notts Surname List >> > >> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > Notts Surname List >> > >> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> Notts Surname List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>

Hi Nick The only Frederick CLOWES I can find in Notts in 1911 is 46 born Codnor Derbyshire wife Emma 36 Frederick is a Colliery Banksman (above ground) in 1911 They are in Selston so not so far away from Underwood Also in 1911 in Bulwell is a Jeremiah EGGLESHAW 56 a coal miner road man (repairer) Wife Hannah 52 Both born Basford There is a second Jeremiah in 1911in Kirkby in Ashfield he is 25 a house painter born Kirkby Nottingham and Rose his wife is 27 born Annesley Nottingham There are over 100 in the Notts 1911 with occupation school caretaker and over 500 with just caretaker None of those in Underwood Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 01/11/2013 22:01, Nick Higton wrote: > I'm seeking information on these two gentlemen who were successive > caretakers at Underwood Church of England School: > Frederick Clowes. Caretaker 1904 - 1913 > Jeremiah Eggleshaw. Caretaker 1913 - 1915

I'm seeking information on these two gentlemen who were successive caretakers at Underwood Church of England School: Frederick Clowes. Caretaker 1904 - 1913 Jeremiah Eggleshaw. Caretaker 1913 - 1915

Narrow Marsh was the street running through the centre of one of the most notorious slums of Nottingham in the early part of the 20th century, giving its name to the surrounding area. Later it was named Red Lion Street after the eponymous pub on that thoroughfare. I can imagine a cross reference to an untidy house, but given the almost total lack of greenery in the Narrow Marsh area, the likening to an untidy garden is odd. Funnily enough I have never ever heard this expression, but then again my ancestors came from Radford, New Basford, and Hyson Green where this expression might never had been used. When the Narrow Marsh area was cleared in the 1930s the occupants were in the main rehoused on Council Estates- can't recall which ones - so perhaps this expression was used by recently rehoused folk. There is lots of information on the net about Narrow Marsh, including lots of photos for instance on www.picturethepast.org.uk Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lcsearch3528@aol.com Sent: 01 November 2013 14:33 To: tony@proctor.net; djwilson22@yahoo.com; nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NTT] Find my Past - Narrow Marsh When I was a girl if our house or garden looked slightly untidy, my mother used to say that 'It looks like Narrow Marsh'! Does anyone have any idea where this phrase came from and why? Lin (nee Harrison) In a message dated 01/11/2013 09:38:32 GMT Standard Time, tony@proctor.net writes: I have ancestors from the Narrow Marsh (or Red Lion St) area - usually Watts - and ancestors with the surname Burton. However, this Annie Elizabeth Burton doesn't figure in any of my research so far. I'd be interested for any details on her David. Tony Proctor ----- Original Message ----- From: "david wilson" <djwilson22@yahoo.com> To: <nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [NTT] Find my Past Well have been experimenting with online ocr sites and this site was one of the easiest to use and was perfect for converting a modern pdf invoice from my inbox to an editable.txt file , no trouble at all ......however it really struggled with old news- type from the news archives , kept getting a message saying image "image quality too poor ". http://free-online-ocr.com/ Eventually I managed to produce the following 16 lines of text after pasting part of a column into Paint . Then saving as a .jpg and then using Windows photo gallery to turn the contrast right up , so I ended up with with black type on a white background rather than the "muddy" background of old newspapers . It seems to struggle with longer columns of print though so is probably more trouble than its worth ! This is the unedited result from a piece about Narrow Marsh : Oonvicted on the pr~ ions evening of the manslauffhteJ of Annie Elizabeth Burton, in Narrow-marsh, on the l5th of September last, was brought up for sentence. ~ On being asked by the Clerk of Arraigns whether he had anything to say why jaugment should not be nassed upon him, be said, ~ 61 hope your lordship will be as lenient to me as you nD." The Judge said : James Temporif. you have been tried for the wilful murder of Annie Elizabeth Burton, who was jiving wftft you, and have been found guilty of ~ They have come to that conclusion. I :lo not know on what gnunds, but that is the view they nave taken, and you have the benefit of it. There was some evidence given to chow your kindness to the woman and the children. and that may have affected ,he view the jury took of your case ; but thfs is not a `^~ ~- ^ ~* r ^an tuba Ihtn rnna{darnhnn Ti T a..n),l On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:09 PM, Balloon Expedition Co. <balexped@ihug.co.nz> wrote: What if you right click on the image and copy to folder ? Di ----- Original Message ----- From: "david wilson" <djwilson22@yahoo.com> To: <nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [NTT] Find my Past > Thanks Roy , don't have MSWord , only have Wordpad and just tried it but > if you copy and paste from the downloaded pdf it just appears as an > un-editable image. > > > > On Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:45 AM, Mike Fry <fredbonzo@iafrica.com> > wrote: > > On 2013/10/31 12:24, david wilson wrote: > >> Does anyone know how to get the news articles from that site into an >> editable >> text ? There are some long articles that would take an age to re-type . > > You need MS Word or LibreOffice/OpenOffice Writer. > > The basic process is to copy the webpage in its entirety to a new > document. If > you're clever, you can select just the part of the webpage containing the > text > of the article, and copy that. > > Start a new, empty document and Paste what you've copied from the webpage. > With > LibreOffice and OpenOffice Writer, this can be pasted in several ways, but > the > best choice is probably as HTML. Then, what you get looks more or less > like what > appears on the web. > >>From there, it all depends on what you want to do with the document. > > If you want more details, contact me off-list. > > -- > Regards, > Mike Fry > Johannesburg > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When I was a girl if our house or garden looked slightly untidy, my mother used to say that 'It looks like Narrow Marsh'! Does anyone have any idea where this phrase came from and why? Lin (nee Harrison) In a message dated 01/11/2013 09:38:32 GMT Standard Time, tony@proctor.net writes: I have ancestors from the Narrow Marsh (or Red Lion St) area - usually Watts - and ancestors with the surname Burton. However, this Annie Elizabeth Burton doesn't figure in any of my research so far. I'd be interested for any details on her David. Tony Proctor ----- Original Message ----- From: "david wilson" <djwilson22@yahoo.com> To: <nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [NTT] Find my Past Well have been experimenting with online ocr sites and this site was one of the easiest to use and was perfect for converting a modern pdf invoice from my inbox to an editable.txt file , no trouble at all ......however it really struggled with old news- type from the news archives , kept getting a message saying image "image quality too poor ". http://free-online-ocr.com/ Eventually I managed to produce the following 16 lines of text after pasting part of a column into Paint . Then saving as a .jpg and then using Windows photo gallery to turn the contrast right up , so I ended up with with black type on a white background rather than the "muddy" background of old newspapers . It seems to struggle with longer columns of print though so is probably more trouble than its worth ! This is the unedited result from a piece about Narrow Marsh : Oonvicted on the pr~ ions evening of the manslauffhteJ of Annie Elizabeth Burton, in Narrow-marsh, on the l5th of September last, was brought up for sentence. ~ On being asked by the Clerk of Arraigns whether he had anything to say why jaugment should not be nassed upon him, be said, ~ 61 hope your lordship will be as lenient to me as you nD." The Judge said : James Temporif. you have been tried for the wilful murder of Annie Elizabeth Burton, who was jiving wftft you, and have been found guilty of ~ They have come to that conclusion. I :lo not know on what gnunds, but that is the view they nave taken, and you have the benefit of it. There was some evidence given to chow your kindness to the woman and the children. and that may have affected ,he view the jury took of your case ; but thfs is not a `^~ ~- ^ ~* r ^an tuba Ihtn rnna{darnhnn Ti T a..n),l On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:09 PM, Balloon Expedition Co. <balexped@ihug.co.nz> wrote: What if you right click on the image and copy to folder ? Di ----- Original Message ----- From: "david wilson" <djwilson22@yahoo.com> To: <nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [NTT] Find my Past > Thanks Roy , don't have MSWord , only have Wordpad and just tried it but > if you copy and paste from the downloaded pdf it just appears as an > un-editable image. > > > > On Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:45 AM, Mike Fry <fredbonzo@iafrica.com> > wrote: > > On 2013/10/31 12:24, david wilson wrote: > >> Does anyone know how to get the news articles from that site into an >> editable >> text ? There are some long articles that would take an age to re-type . > > You need MS Word or LibreOffice/OpenOffice Writer. > > The basic process is to copy the webpage in its entirety to a new > document. If > you're clever, you can select just the part of the webpage containing the > text > of the article, and copy that. > > Start a new, empty document and Paste what you've copied from the webpage. > With > LibreOffice and OpenOffice Writer, this can be pasted in several ways, but > the > best choice is probably as HTML. Then, what you get looks more or less > like what > appears on the web. > >>From there, it all depends on what you want to do with the document. > > If you want more details, contact me off-list. > > -- > Regards, > Mike Fry > Johannesburg > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have ancestors from the Narrow Marsh (or Red Lion St) area - usually Watts - and ancestors with the surname Burton. However, this Annie Elizabeth Burton doesn't figure in any of my research so far. I'd be interested for any details on her David. Tony Proctor ----- Original Message ----- From: "david wilson" <djwilson22@yahoo.com> To: <nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [NTT] Find my Past Well have been experimenting with online ocr sites and this site was one of the easiest to use and was perfect for converting a modern pdf invoice from my inbox to an editable.txt file , no trouble at all ......however it really struggled with old news- type from the news archives , kept getting a message saying image "image quality too poor ". http://free-online-ocr.com/ Eventually I managed to produce the following 16 lines of text after pasting part of a column into Paint . Then saving as a .jpg and then using Windows photo gallery to turn the contrast right up , so I ended up with with black type on a white background rather than the "muddy" background of old newspapers . It seems to struggle with longer columns of print though so is probably more trouble than its worth ! This is the unedited result from a piece about Narrow Marsh : Oonvicted on the pr~ ions evening of the manslauffhteJ of Annie Elizabeth Burton, in Narrow-marsh, on the l5th of September last, was brought up for sentence. ~ On being asked by the Clerk of Arraigns whether he had anything to say why jaugment should not be nassed upon him, be said, ~ 61 hope your lordship will be as lenient to me as you nD." The Judge said : James Temporif. you have been tried for the wilful murder of Annie Elizabeth Burton, who was jiving wftft you, and have been found guilty of ~ They have come to that conclusion. I :lo not know on what gnunds, but that is the view they nave taken, and you have the benefit of it. There was some evidence given to chow your kindness to the woman and the children. and that may have affected ,he view the jury took of your case ; but thfs is not a `^~ ~- ^ ~* r ^an tuba Ihtn rnna{darnhnn Ti T a..n),l On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:09 PM, Balloon Expedition Co. <balexped@ihug.co.nz> wrote: What if you right click on the image and copy to folder ? Di ----- Original Message ----- From: "david wilson" <djwilson22@yahoo.com> To: <nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [NTT] Find my Past > Thanks Roy , don't have MSWord , only have Wordpad and just tried it but > if you copy and paste from the downloaded pdf it just appears as an > un-editable image. > > > > On Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:45 AM, Mike Fry <fredbonzo@iafrica.com> > wrote: > > On 2013/10/31 12:24, david wilson wrote: > >> Does anyone know how to get the news articles from that site into an >> editable >> text ? There are some long articles that would take an age to re-type . > > You need MS Word or LibreOffice/OpenOffice Writer. > > The basic process is to copy the webpage in its entirety to a new > document. If > you're clever, you can select just the part of the webpage containing the > text > of the article, and copy that. > > Start a new, empty document and Paste what you've copied from the webpage. > With > LibreOffice and OpenOffice Writer, this can be pasted in several ways, but > the > best choice is probably as HTML. Then, what you get looks more or less > like what > appears on the web. > >>From there, it all depends on what you want to do with the document. > > If you want more details, contact me off-list. > > -- > Regards, > Mike Fry > Johannesburg > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message