Thank you to Peter, Torven, Kara, Dai, John and Nivard. Once again this list has come through for me; only a small amount of information, but saving me from trying to find something that isn't there. Kate.

Hi Peter, I have used FTM 2005 (the USA version) but I doubt doing the graphics you want to do would be any different in the UK version. The differences between the two versions is mainly concentrated in the subtle differences in grammar, punctuation, and the expression of location names and calendar dates. I no longer use 2005. I now have the version from 2011. The process for adding custom or stock images in charts is very different now than it was in 2005 edition so the current version's directions won't help you much. I have, however, kept the expanded 2005 official guide that was sold separately with the software. If you send me your private e-mail address, I can scan the pages pertaining to Adding Photographs and Images to Charts and e-mail PDFs to you. This would be a total of three pages. Let me know, I will keep a bookmark in the guide just in case. Carolyn Sidebottom sidebc3@comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 3:51 AM To: nottsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NTT] Using FAMILY TREE MAKER Hi Peter There are very good FTM lists which would be able to answer your question and any others you may have <http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/FTM.html> <http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/surname/f/ftm-tech.html#FTM-TECH> <http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/FTM-HELP.html> There are very knowledgeable and long term users of FTM on them Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03/02/2014 09:00, Peter R Booth wrote: > Listers, > > I wonder if anyone has a recent version of Family Tree Maker. I only > have a 2005 version. > > I've been asked how to add backgrounds pictures to charts. Under FTM > 2005 there was specific command in the banner line, but I can't see it in > online displays of the current version. > > I've suggested User Manual and Help options, but was wondering if > somebody could help with the answer. > > Peter Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Listers, I wonder if anyone has a recent version of Family Tree Maker. I only have a 2005 version. I've been asked how to add backgrounds pictures to charts. Under FTM 2005 there was specific command in the banner line, but I can't see it in online displays of the current version. I've suggested User Manual and Help options, but was wondering if somebody could help with the answer. Peter

Thanks for the reply Peter. I'm trying to determine where his battalion was fighting at the time of his death, and I had hoped for something like the Australian dossier. His parents are listed on the CWGC site despite being dead before the war started. I've been searching the regiment and the battles and can only assume that he was wounded and died some time later. Kate. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> To: <NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 3:10 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [NTT] WW1 records > Kate, > > You're right about WWI Australian records. But we didn't have the > bombing like London. > > What precisely are you hoping to find? If you're thinking of something > like the complete Australian dossier, I think you can forget it. > > The best you will probably get is medal cards. CWGC (War Graves) will > have his death and perhaps parents or next of kin. > > You might try Googling his name in quotation marks or seeing if you can > find a website for South Staffordshire Regiment. > > Peter in Sydney > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Carol, While others have given you a source for your 1821 baptism, there are a number of possibilities for William Coulby and variants. You need to make the case for choosing this one. Does it match his age and birthplace from later census records? Can you find him with parents in 1841? If in doubt, you might need to purchase the 1846 marriage certificate from GRO. Peter

Kate, You're right about WWI Australian records. But we didn't have the bombing like London. What precisely are you hoping to find? If you're thinking of something like the complete Australian dossier, I think you can forget it. The best you will probably get is medal cards. CWGC (War Graves) will have his death and perhaps parents or next of kin. You might try Googling his name in quotation marks or seeing if you can find a website for South Staffordshire Regiment. Peter in Sydney

Can anyone suggest a site that I could obtain a reliable military record for Thomas Alfred Boyington, 2nd Battalion South Staffordshire Regiment. Thomas was killed 22.11.1916 and is buried at Etaples. We are very lucky in Australia to have all our WW1 records digitised and free to view. I understand that many British records were destroyed in WW2 but according to Forces War Records website they have information on Thomas, however I'm wary of paying for unofficial information and hesitate to subscribe. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Regards, Kate.

Hi Carol, I found this baptism on FreeREG (transcriptions of the parish registers) - 29 July 1821 - St Mary, Newark-Notts - William, son of William CRAMPTON (a soldier) and Mary COLEBY, (abode) Newark Cheers Trish Nowra NSW >I have the birth of William Smith COULBY as 29 July 1821 Newark St. Mary >Magdalene and absolutely no written proof as where I got it years ago when >I was first starting on my searches for the GINNEVER family. William >married my great-grandaunt Abigail GENEVER in 1846 and it was the name of >her daughter, Elizabeth that brought me to the COULBY family. Elizabeth >COULBY VERNON’S name was in a letter my father had asking him to visit >them on his way to France in 1916. I was able to tie her mother, Abigail, >in my great-grandfather—her brother, William. > Carol Haycock in Denver, Colorado

Hi Kara The wording France & Flanders is a general one for the theatre of war, not specific to where a soldier was wounded or where he died Its on most if not all who died on the western front War death certificates also usually use general wording, died of wounds, or of disease or whatever, not the specifics of the event Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > also come up in Ancestry 'Military' search results are the UK, > Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 additional (to CWGC) info > states died of wounds, Western European Theatre place of death France > & Flanders - the apparent oddity of having died in two places is > probably where he was wounded as well as where he died. The Battle of > the Somme took place 1 July - 18 Nov 1916. The third phase from 15

Hi Kate re the CWGC entry That detail was input by the family of the deceased, so someone entered the wording you see, around the 1920 to 22 period, there were a limited amount of words so entering deceased would be taking up valuable space Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03/02/2014 04:48, Kate wrote: > Thanks for the reply Peter. > > I'm trying to determine where his battalion was fighting at the time of his > death, and I had hoped for something like the Australian dossier. His > parents are listed on the CWGC site despite being dead before the war > started. > > I've been searching the regiment and the battles and can only assume that he > was wounded and died some time later. > > Kate.

Morning Kate The information forces war records give a hit for is almost certainly from soldiers died database, also available on Ancestry and findmypast I do not believe fwr have any service records and very little not on other sites UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 about Thomas Alfred Boyington Name: Thomas Alfred Boyington Birth Place: Nottingham Death Date: 22 Nov 1916 Death Location: France & Flanders Enlistment Location: Nottingham Rank: Private Regiment: South Staffordshire Regiment Battalion: 2nd Battalion Number: 18648 Type of Casualty: Died of wounds Theatre of War: Western European Theatre His medal card shows BOYINGTON Thomas A S Staff R Pte 18648 Victory medal British War medal 1915 Star Theatre of war first served in (2B) Balkan Date of entry therein 11th Sep 1915 I think you will find the most useful site on the subject which will help you further is <http://www.1914-1918.net/soldiers/research.html> As others have suggested I would seek out the war diary for the unit, they rarely give names but should give an idea of where they were and what operations they were involved in He appears to be the only casualty from that unit on that day, with 117 casualties 1st to 22nd of November on various days The highest amount of casualties being 17 on the 5th Nov, 36 on the 13th, 26 on the 15th and 10 on the 21st, he could have been wounded in on any day of course Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03/02/2014 00:52, Kate wrote: > Can anyone suggest a site that I could obtain a reliable military > record for Thomas Alfred Boyington, 2nd Battalion South Staffordshire > Regiment. Thomas was killed 22.11.1916 and is buried at Etaples. > > We are very lucky in Australia to have all our WW1 records digitised > and free to view. I understand that many British records were > destroyed in WW2 but according to Forces War Records website they > have information on Thomas, however I'm wary of paying for unofficial > information and hesitate to subscribe. > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Regards, Kate.

Hi Peter There are very good FTM lists which would be able to answer your question and any others you may have <http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/FTM.html> <http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/surname/f/ftm-tech.html#FTM-TECH> <http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/FTM-HELP.html> There are very knowledgeable and long term users of FTM on them Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03/02/2014 09:00, Peter R Booth wrote: > Listers, > > I wonder if anyone has a recent version of Family Tree Maker. I only > have a 2005 version. > > I've been asked how to add backgrounds pictures to charts. Under FTM > 2005 there was specific command in the banner line, but I can't see it in > online displays of the current version. > > I've suggested User Manual and Help options, but was wondering if > somebody could help with the answer. > > Peter

Kate Thomas Alfred Boyington, 2nd Battalion South Staffordshire Regiment. Thomas was killed 22.11.1916 and is buried at Etaples.As you know his regiment - his medal index card is available (Regt No.18648) You can check on The National Archives to see if the 2nd Battalion South Staffordshire War Diary is available for Nov 1916 - that will tell you where they were in the line at the time and if you are lucky you might even find him listed. Some regiments did give names of other rank casualties I hope this helps John Mellors ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate" <kcutting@alphalink.com.au> To: "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au>; <NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [NTT] [SPAM] Re: WW1 records > Thanks for the reply Peter. > > I'm trying to determine where his battalion was fighting at the time of > his > death, and I had hoped for something like the Australian dossier. His > parents are listed on the CWGC site despite being dead before the war > started. > > I've been searching the regiment and the battles and can only assume that > he > was wounded and died some time later. > > Kate. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter R Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> > To: <NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 3:10 PM > Subject: [SPAM] Re: [NTT] WW1 records > > >> Kate, >> >> You're right about WWI Australian records. But we didn't have the >> bombing like London. >> >> What precisely are you hoping to find? If you're thinking of something >> like the complete Australian dossier, I think you can forget it. >> >> The best you will probably get is medal cards. CWGC (War Graves) will >> have his death and perhaps parents or next of kin. >> >> You might try Googling his name in quotation marks or seeing if you >> can >> find a website for South Staffordshire Regiment. >> >> Peter in Sydney >> >> >> >> Notts Surname List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Carol, The baptism is on the Notts FHS CD. Parents are William CRAMPTON, soldier, and Mary COLEBY Regards, Dai On 02/02/2014 23:59, Carol Haycock wrote: I have the birth of William Smith COULBY as 29 July 1821 Newark St. Mary Magdal ene and absolutely no written proof as where I got it years ago when I was firs t starting on my searches for the GINNEVER family. William married my great-gr andaunt Abigail GENEVER in 1846 and it was the name of her daughter, Elizabeth that brought me to the COULBY family. Elizabeth COULBY VERNON’S name was in a letter my father had asking him to visit them on his way to France in 1916. I was able to tie her mother, Abigail, in my great-grandfather—her brother, Willi am. I can find no proof of this birth or date on Ancestry, Find My Past or Family S earch. The 1841 census shows a William COUBLY with wife Ann but this couple ap pears in later censuses. If SKS is going to the archives, I would greatly appreciate knowing if the pari sh records of St. Mary Magdalene in Newark support my record. I am rueing thos e early days of genealogy research without knowing what I was doing and just si mply making notes with no references. Many thanks, Carol Haycock in Denver, Colorado

Kate, The War Diary of 2Bn S.Staffs. Regiment has been digitsed bt The National Archives and can be downlaoded from their site. See [1]http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C4554513 The cost is £3.36, (free if you visit the archives, but I think you will not be doing that). It will probably not mention Thomas Boyington by name, but you will know what the Battalion was doing. I think you are right to be wary of some of the paying sites, they may have little more that his entry in 'Soldiers who died in the Great War.' regards, Dai On 03/02/2014 00:52, Kate wrote: Can anyone suggest a site that I could obtain a reliable military record for Th omas Alfred Boyington, 2nd Battalion South Staffordshire Regiment. Thomas was killed 22.11.1916 and is buried at Etaples. We are very lucky in Australia to have all our WW1 records digitised and free t o view. I understand that many British records were destroyed in WW2 but accord ing to Forces War Records website they have information on Thomas, however I'm wary of paying for unofficial information and hesitate to subscribe. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Regards, Kate. Notts Surname List [2]http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [3]NOTTSGEN-request@roots web.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the b ody of the message References 1. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C4554513 2. http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html 3. mailto:NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com

Carol an email to: archives@nottscc.gov.uk should get you the answer you want John Mellors ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Haycock" <ghaycock@rmi.net> To: <NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 11:59 PM Subject: [NTT] William Smith COULBY >I have the birth of William Smith COULBY as 29 July 1821 Newark St. Mary >Magdalene and absolutely no written proof as where I got it years ago when >I was first starting on my searches for the GINNEVER family. William >married my great-grandaunt Abigail GENEVER in 1846 and it was the name of >her daughter, Elizabeth that brought me to the COULBY family. Elizabeth >COULBY VERNON’S name was in a letter my father had asking him to visit >them on his way to France in 1916. I was able to tie her mother, Abigail, >in my great-grandfather—her brother, William. > > I can find no proof of this birth or date on Ancestry, Find My Past or > Family Search. The 1841 census shows a William COUBLY with wife Ann but > this couple appears in later censuses. > > If SKS is going to the archives, I would greatly appreciate knowing if the > parish records of St. Mary Magdalene in Newark support my record. I am > rueing those early days of genealogy research without knowing what I was > doing and just simply making notes with no references. > > Many thanks, > > Carol Haycock in Denver, Colorado > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carol , Just had a look at the Newspaper archives after Bills info above and there are a couple of references with these names but in Nottingham not Newark . Could be a connection ? Nottingham Guardian 08/07/1864 Weddings On Mon. 4th inst at Friar Lane Chapel.....Mr Henry Greensmith to Emma eldest daughter of William Crampton Coulby of Greyhound Street. Nottingham Guardian 12/02/1875 Deaths Emma died 10th Feb at Old Plough Inn, Beck Lane . Notting Evening Post 20/02/1880 Deaths William beloved husband of Sarah Laura Coulby and eldest son of William Crampton Coulby of Greyhound St . Age 33 This could be just a co-incidence butin the late 1800s there are numerous mentions of Coulbys living at Crampton House , Mansfield Rd. Sherwood. Which sounds like a large property . Hope this helps David On Monday, February 3, 2014 1:08 AM, "bill.stratton@ns.sympatico.ca" <bill.stratton@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote: From Hugh Wallis Batch #'s "IGI" C061111 William COLBY, or CRAMPTON Baptism 29 Jul 1821 Newark Upon Trent Nottingham Father William CRAMPTON Mother Mary COLBY Bill Stratton Cole Harbour NS Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Haycock" <ghaycock@rmi.net> To: <NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 7:59 PM Subject: [NTT] William Smith COULBY >I have the birth of William Smith COULBY as 29 July 1821 Newark St. Mary >Magdalene and absolutely no written proof as where I got it years ago when >I was first starting on my searches for the GINNEVER family.  William >married my great-grandaunt Abigail GENEVER in 1846 and it was the name of >her daughter, Elizabeth that brought me to the COULBY family.  Elizabeth >COULBY VERNON’S name was  in a letter my father had asking him to visit >them on his way to France in 1916. I was able to tie her mother, Abigail, >in my great-grandfather—her brother, William. > > I can find no proof of this birth or date on Ancestry, Find My Past or > Family Search.  The 1841 census shows a William COUBLY with wife Ann but > this couple appears in later censuses. > Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kate, I wouldn't bother with the Forces War Records - if the record exists Ancestry would have it, and they don't. I currently have 327 names in my database, all of them WW1 Veterans who are buried in our local cemetery. While most served in the New Zealand Expeditionary Forces (NZEF) there are also plenty of British and Australian servicemen, and so fare one lonely Canadian. I have struck it lucky with some of my Brits and the surviving 'burnt' records of their WW1 service have turned up on Ancestry. Not all the headstones or RSA plaques include regimental numbers and most use only their initials, however, full names can be obtained from the burial records. Armed with a name I first search (via Ancestry) the Medal Index Cards and they generally provide me with a service number. I then switch to the 'All Military Records' option and have been rewarded a few times. For instance five brothers from Northumberland all served, two emigrating to NZ after the war (1926) and they and their wives and families remained here (locally) for the rest of their lives and some of their children (grandparents themselves now) still live nearby and I was able to contact them. Anyway out of the five, there were two surviving records. Another source which will also come up in Ancestry 'Military' search results are the UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 additional (to CWGC) info states died of wounds, Western European Theatre place of death France & Flanders - the apparent oddity of having died in two places is probably where he was wounded as well as where he died. The Battle of the Somme took place 1 July - 18 Nov 1916. The third phase from 15 Sep - 18 Nov, you will find most sources show in that period six distinct actions/battles, the last being the Battle of the Ancre, 13th to 18th Nov. I would suspect with a death date of 22 Nov that is when Thomas was wounded, to put it bluntly the wounded in most cases would not have lasted very long. He is buried at Etaples where many General Hospitals were located; he would first have passed through a Field Ambulance Station and/or Casualty Clearing Station. It might be possible to find out which regiments were at the Somme. I suggest you search The Long, Long, Trail website  http://www.1914-1918.net/training_reserve.htm     Good Luck Kara, Papakura, New Zealand (where we are catching up with Australia and Canada and have almost completed digitising all our WW1 records, including those of men (boys!) who grew up and also served in WW2.)  ________________________________ From: Kate <kcutting@alphalink.com.au> To: NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 3 February 2014 1:52 PM Subject: [NTT] WW1 records Can anyone suggest a site that I could obtain a reliable military record for Thomas Alfred Boyington, 2nd Battalion South Staffordshire Regiment. Thomas was killed 22.11.1916 and is buried at Etaples. We are very lucky in Australia to have all our WW1 records digitised and free to view. I understand that many British records were destroyed in WW2 but according to Forces War Records website they have information on Thomas, however I'm wary of paying for unofficial information and hesitate to subscribe. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Regards, Kate. Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From Hugh Wallis Batch #'s "IGI" C061111 William COLBY, or CRAMPTON Baptism 29 Jul 1821 Newark Upon Trent Nottingham Father William CRAMPTON Mother Mary COLBY Bill Stratton Cole Harbour NS Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Haycock" <ghaycock@rmi.net> To: <NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 7:59 PM Subject: [NTT] William Smith COULBY >I have the birth of William Smith COULBY as 29 July 1821 Newark St. Mary >Magdalene and absolutely no written proof as where I got it years ago when >I was first starting on my searches for the GINNEVER family. William >married my great-grandaunt Abigail GENEVER in 1846 and it was the name of >her daughter, Elizabeth that brought me to the COULBY family. Elizabeth >COULBY VERNON’S name was in a letter my father had asking him to visit >them on his way to France in 1916. I was able to tie her mother, Abigail, >in my great-grandfather—her brother, William. > > I can find no proof of this birth or date on Ancestry, Find My Past or > Family Search. The 1841 census shows a William COUBLY with wife Ann but > this couple appears in later censuses. >

I know what you mean, Carol, I have inherited some of those reasonably complete older genealogies from the 1950s and 1960s. There are no sources cited, so if there is some question to iron out, there is no way to re-check the original source information! I'll hope someone closer to the records office or archives can come through for you! Hang in there, Carolyn in Minnesota, USA -----Original Message----- From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carol Haycock Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 5:59 PM To: NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NTT] William Smith COULBY I have the birth of William Smith COULBY as 29 July 1821 Newark St. Mary Magdalene and absolutely no written proof as where I got it years ago when I was first starting on my searches for the GINNEVER family. William married my great-grandaunt Abigail GENEVER in 1846 and it was the name of her daughter, Elizabeth that brought me to the COULBY family. Elizabeth COULBY VERNON'S name was in a letter my father had asking him to visit them on his way to France in 1916. I was able to tie her mother, Abigail, in my great-grandfather-her brother, William. I can find no proof of this birth or date on Ancestry, Find My Past or Family Search. The 1841 census shows a William COUBLY with wife Ann but this couple appears in later censuses. If SKS is going to the archives, I would greatly appreciate knowing if the parish records of St. Mary Magdalene in Newark support my record. I am rueing those early days of genealogy research without knowing what I was doing and just simply making notes with no references. Many thanks, Carol Haycock in Denver, Colorado Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message