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Hi Roy They have released the 1911 census a year early as you know. One of the conditions of release was that the institution information is not revealed until 1912. It should tell you on the 1911 site somewhere because I have read it online but cannot recall which site. Hope this helps Regards Doreen Dear nottsgen. Ihave visited the 1911 census and I have found out my Grandfather was in an institution but it does not tell me what sort of institution it was or where. The original page has all male names. how could I get more information on this. His name was Joseph Oakland.Was it a prison or Workhouse. can anyone help.Roy Langham.

Hi Jean & List Unfortunately, the info Laurie found was old info of mine, from about 5 years ago. Thanks to the 1911 census I have been able to prove that the Samuel Taylor born 1854 in Hucknall Torkard is NOT my GGrandfather. He was still in the same place 12 years later when he died and his daughter Lizzie was by his side. I have found a Sam Taylor born 1877 in Prestwich Lancs who in 1891 was listed as a violininst and in 1901 as a musician that was boarding in London – in Fulham and was a musician – it isn’t that much of stretch to go from a musician in 1901 to a music teacher in 1906 – I just can’t find him yet in the 1911 census. I tried searching the BDM’s for a Taylor Burn marriage, I suspect they either didn’t marry or she was previously married. Regards Barb _____ From: Jean WOOD [mailto:jeangrahame@orange.fr] Sent: Sunday, 18 January 2009 8:49 PM To: lcaron0822@rogers.com; 'Barbara Cunningham'; NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NTT] 1911 suggestions please Well Barbara, Hasn't Laurie turned up gold dust! It seems to me your Great Grandpa was a bit of a lad! 2nd wife younger than his chhildren. I went systematically though find my past and found only 2 Kate BURN s marrying between 1901 and 1911, one in Newton A 1903 and one in Tynemouth 1905. The latter could well have been a possible, but no Sam Taylor appears in the complementary index. I presume that their marriage was a polite fiction! (Well, they could have gone abroad, but that seems unlikely) He would I think have been too old for a foreign military marriage Maybe your Grandpa was following in his dad's footsteps.... Jean > Message du 18/01/09 04:25 > De : "Laurie Caron" > A : "'Barbara Cunningham'" , NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [NTT] 1911 suggestions please > > > Hi Barbara, > > I found the following tree online - if you follow this, you'll then find > Samuel on the 1901 census, still widowed, living with his mother, Ann, and > daughters from his first marriage, Florrie and Lizzie. > > http://www.geocities.com/dilli63/STaylor.rtf > > > 4. SAMUEL3 TAYLOR (GEORGE2, BENJAMIN1) was born 1853 in Hucknall Torkard, > Nottingham, England, and died Unknown. He married (1) KATE BURN, daughter > of HENRY BURN and SARAH THORNTON. She was born 1881 in Thirlby, Yorkshire, > England, and died Unknown. He married (2) ELIZABETH BROWN 25 Dec 1872 in > Hucknall Torkard St Marys, daughter of BROWN and ANN (BROWN). She was born > 1852 in Kirkby In Ashfield, Notts, England, and died Unknown. > > More About SAMUEL TAYLOR and ELIZABETH BROWN: > Marriage: 25 Dec 1872, Hucknall Torkard St Marys > > Children of SAMUEL TAYLOR and KATE BURN are: > i. FREDERICK GEORGE4 TAYLOR, b. 1903, Nottingham, England; d. > Unknown. > ii. DORIS MARION TAYLOR, b. 1904, Nottingham, England; d. > Unknown. > 5. iii. ARTHUR SAMUEL TAYLOR, b. 20 Jun 1906, Nottingham, England; > d. 1978, Rushcliffe, Nottingham, England. > 6. iv. MINNIE KATHLEEN TAYLOR, b. 20 Jun 1906, Nottingham, England; > d. Unknown, . > v. PHYLLIS TAYLOR, b. Private. > > > Children of SAMUEL TAYLOR and ELIZABETH BROWN are: > vi. LIZZIE A S4 TAYLOR, b. 1875, Hucknall Torkard, Nottingham, > England; d. Unknown. > vii. FLORENCE H J TAYLOR, b. 1877, Hucknall Torkard, Nottingham, > England; d. Unknown. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Barbara Cunningham > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:54 AM > To: NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NTT] 1911 suggestions please > > Hi List > > I am hoping for a few suggestions. > > I have been excitedly searching the 1911 census in the hope of finally being > able to identify my great grandparents. > > My grandparents divorced during WW2 and Mum had very little to do with her > father so she was never able to give me a great deal of information. > > My grandfather Arthur Samuel Taylor was born on the 20th June 1906 (along > with his twin sister Minnie Kathleen) to Sam Taylor - music teacher & Kate > Taylor formerly Burn. Mum always said that there were 2 brothers George & > Ginger, an older sister Marion and a younger sister Phyllis > > When I first got access to the 1901 census I thought finally I will find > something, unfortunately Sam and Kate do not appear together in 1901. So I > waited with baited breath for the 1911 census. > > I have grandad's birth certificate, his marriage certificate and his death > certificate, not that they help a great deal other than to tell me that his > dad was dead prior to my grandparents marriage in 1929 as Sam is listed as > deceased and as a newsagent. > > Today I found my grandfather in the 1911 census as I had no information > other than there names I figured it was safest to search for Grandad rather > than his parents. > > I found Grandad straight away, which was fantastic. The rest of the results > is where my request comes in. > > In the transcription it states the following: > > Taylor, Kate Head Married F 34 No Occupation > Battersea London > Burn, Minnie Sister Single F 31 Ironer in Laundry > Battersea London > Taylor Minnie Kathleen Daughter F 4 > Nottingham > Taylor Arthur Samuel Son M 4 > Nottingham > > According to the census transcription (the original agrees - it also states > that Kate had been married for 5 years) that Kate is married but, she is > listed as Head of the household. As her husband isn't there I guess I > understand why she is listed as Head, but, where could he be ? > > I don't know what his occupation was in 1911 he could have still been > teacher music or a newsagent, so I figured he could be working or visiting, > but, I have checked all the Sam's and Samuel Taylors in Nottingham and found > nothing that could be the right one. > > Does anyone have a suggestion on where I try next ? > > Thanks heaps > > Barb > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Jean Wood 11 impasse Pampanie chez Perineau 17610 Chaniers France Tel: 0033(0)5.46.93.38.71 No virus found in this incoming message. 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I have done a search for Thomas Oakland living in Nottinghamshire and put WORKHOUSE in the resedential place section and found him, listed on the left as Institution. I would glean from this that he is in the Notts Workhouse. Jan > From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:48:59 +0000> Subject: Re: [NTT] Institutions> > From: "Doreen" <reen2@optusnet.com.au>> > > Hi Roy > > > > They have released the 1911 census a year early as you know. One of> > the conditions of release was that the institution information is not> > revealed until 1912. It should tell you on the 1911 site somewhere> > because I have read it online but cannot recall which site. Hope this> > helps > > > > Regards Doreen > > > > Dear nottsgen. Ihave visited the 1911 census and I have found out my> > Grandfather was in an institution but it does not tell me what sort of> > institution it was or where. The original page has all male names. how> > could I get more information on this. His name was Joseph Oakland.Was> > it a prison or Workhouse. can anyone help.Roy Langham. >> > Actually I don't think that is correct. The only information blanked out is > the very last column of the schedule which reveals whether someone > was handicapped in some way.> > I think you probably could find out what the institution was but it would > mean loooking at every page until you get to the first one and this, of > course, could cost you many units.> > --> Roy Stockdill> Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer> Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html> > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about."> OSCAR WILDE> > > > > > Notts Surname List> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Choose the perfect PC or mobile phone for you http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/130777504/direct/01/

Hi everyone, I've been struggling to find my MANN family before 1830 for many years now. Rechecking some notes I made of the above, I find a Hannah Mann died aged 88 in the grave with my known ancestors. Can I therefore assume that she was an ancestor. I have since found her on several censuses 1851 1861 living as a widow in Plumtree Hospital. On 1841 she is living with William Mann in St Mary's. I'm desperately hoping she might be the grandmother of my 2 times gt grandfather born ca 1830, though I can't trace his baptism anywhere. 2 queries. I've tried searching web for Plumtree but can't find anything re hospital beyond the Middle Ages. Does anyone know of any records relating to it? Records of purchase of graves in Gemeral Cemetery- does anyone know of anything beyond lists of burials? Hope someone can help and advise me best wishes Joyce

Hi everyone, I've been struggling to find my MANN family before 1830 for many years now. Rechecking some notes I made of the above, I find a Hannah Mann died aged 88 in the grave with my known ancestors. Can I therefore assume that she was an ancestor. I have since found her on several censuses 1851 1861 living as a widow in Plumtree Hospital. On 1841 she is living with William Mann in St Mary's. I'm desperately hoping she might be the grandmother of my 2 times gt grandfather born ca 1830, though I can't trace his baptism anywhere. 2 queries. I've tried searching web for Plumtree but can't find anything re hospital beyond the Middle Ages. Does anyone know of any records relating to it? Records of purchase of graves in Gemeral Cemetery- does anyone know of anything beyond lists of burials? Hope someone can help and advise me best wishes Joyce

I have picked this thread up halfway through and would like to ask a question. Have you looked at the transcription or the original page yet? or simply done a search and found his results? The institution in Notts in 1901 was the Workhouse and unless you were the Officers family or worked there you were classed as a pauper. The address of all mine are at the very bottom right side of the page. Jan > From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> To: NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:48:59 +0000> Subject: Re: [NTT] Institutions> > From: "Doreen" <reen2@optusnet.com.au>> > > Hi Roy > > > > They have released the 1911 census a year early as you know. One of> > the conditions of release was that the institution information is not> > revealed until 1912. It should tell you on the 1911 site somewhere> > because I have read it online but cannot recall which site. Hope this> > helps > > > > Regards Doreen > > > > Dear nottsgen. Ihave visited the 1911 census and I have found out my> > Grandfather was in an institution but it does not tell me what sort of> > institution it was or where. The original page has all male names. how> > could I get more information on this. His name was Joseph Oakland.Was> > it a prison or Workhouse. can anyone help.Roy Langham. >> > Actually I don't think that is correct. The only information blanked out is > the very last column of the schedule which reveals whether someone > was handicapped in some way.> > I think you probably could find out what the institution was but it would > mean loooking at every page until you get to the first one and this, of > course, could cost you many units.> > --> Roy Stockdill> Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer> Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: > www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html> > "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, > and that is not being talked about."> OSCAR WILDE> > > > > > Notts Surname List> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Are you a PC?  Upload your PC story and show the world http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/122465942/direct/01/

From: "Doreen" <reen2@optusnet.com.au> > Hi Roy > > They have released the 1911 census a year early as you know. One of > the conditions of release was that the institution information is not > revealed until 1912. It should tell you on the 1911 site somewhere > because I have read it online but cannot recall which site. Hope this > helps > > Regards Doreen > > Dear nottsgen. Ihave visited the 1911 census and I have found out my > Grandfather was in an institution but it does not tell me what sort of > institution it was or where. The original page has all male names. how > could I get more information on this. His name was Joseph Oakland.Was > it a prison or Workhouse. can anyone help.Roy Langham. > Actually I don't think that is correct. The only information blanked out is the very last column of the schedule which reveals whether someone was handicapped in some way. I think you probably could find out what the institution was but it would mean loooking at every page until you get to the first one and this, of course, could cost you many units. -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

http://support.prentrom.com/article.php?id=066 Hi, I think you can find your answer on this web site. I didn't read it all but it seems to explain what to do without a keypad. I have a desktop so don't have that problem. Carol Lylyk Calgary AB Canada ----- Original Message ----- £ 0164From: "Carol Haycock" <ghaycock@rmi.net> To: "Nottingham list" <NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 4:46 PM Subject: [NTT] Off subject but hope you don't mind | | Can SKS tell me the keystrokes on a US laptop computer for the pound sign. I know it is alt 0163 on a keypad but I have no keypad on the laptop. | | Many thanks, | | Carol | | | Notts Surname List | | http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This marriage is listed on the Notts marriage cd. You will need to look at the parish register copy for more details. cheers Pete in Mansfield ----- Original Message ----- From: "sharon" <slr1137@cox.net> To: "NOTTSGEN" <NOTTSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 9:33 PM Subject: [NTT] ROBINSON / WORDSWORTH Marriage > Hello All, > > I have been on the IGI and there is one that I am interested in and wonder > if the patron who submitted it might be a member of this list. It is for > a John ROBINSON who married Sarah WORDSWORTH 27 Mar 1827 at Edwinstowe, > Notts. There are no sources listed. Since this information I believe > might be sealings for the dead I would be unable to find out who submitted > the information so that I might contact them. If anyone has any > information on the above couple I would love to get in contact with you. > Thank you. > > Sharon Rauworth > Mesa, Arizona > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.9/1900 - Release Date: 18/01/2009 12:11

Can SKS tell me the keystrokes on a US laptop computer for the pound sign. I know it is alt 0163 on a keypad but I have no keypad on the laptop. Many thanks, Carol

Well done! I have found both those entries too, good luck with further hunting. I do not have access to 1911 yet, but I too have a couple of musicians in various places. It does make searching a bit easier! Maybe you do have a bit of a start now. Do any of those names match any further down? Sometimes I have found inherited names quite useful to verify family links You have the Sam, what about Ann, Violet, Harry, Richard and Ann? Jean > Message du 18/01/09 12:06 > De : "Barbara Cunningham" > A : "'Jean WOOD'" , NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : RE: [NTT] 1911 suggestions please > > Hi Jean & List Unfortunately, the info Laurie found was old info of mine, from about 5 years ago. Thanks to the 1911 census I have been able to prove that the Samuel Taylor born 1854 in Hucknall Torkard is NOT my GGrandfather. He was still in the same place 12 years later when he died and his daughter Lizzie was by his side. I have found a Sam Taylor born 1877 in Prestwich Lancs who in 1891 was listed as a violininst and in 1901 as a musician that was boarding in London – in Fulham and was a musician – it isn’t that much of stretch to go from a musician in 1901 to a music teacher in 1906 – I just can’t find him yet in the 1911 census. I tried searching the BDM’s for a Taylor Burn marriage, I suspect they either didn’t marry or she was previously married. Regards Barb From: Jean WOOD [mailto:jeangrahame@orange.fr] > Sent: Sunday, 18 January 2009 8:49 PM > To: lcaron0822@rogers.com; 'Barbara Cunningham'; NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NTT] 1911 suggestions please > Well Barbara, > Hasn't Laurie turned up gold dust! > > It seems to me your Great Grandpa was a bit of a lad! 2nd wife younger than his chhildren. > > I went systematically though find my past and found only 2 Kate BURN s marrying between 1901 and 1911, one in Newton A 1903 and one in Tynemouth 1905. > The latter could well have been a possible, but no Sam Taylor appears in the complementary index. > > I presume that their marriage was a polite fiction! (Well, they could have gone abroad, but that seems unlikely) He would I think have been too old for a foreign military marriage > > Maybe your Grandpa was following in his dad's footsteps.... > > Jean > > > > > > Message du 18/01/09 04:25 > > De : "Laurie Caron" > > A : "'Barbara Cunningham'" , NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com > > Copie à : > > Objet : Re: [NTT] 1911 suggestions please > > > > > > Hi Barbara, > > > > I found the following tree online - if you follow this, you'll then find > > Samuel on the 1901 census, still widowed, living with his mother, Ann, and > > daughters from his first marriage, Florrie and Lizzie. > > > > http://www.geocities.com/dilli63/STaylor.rtf > > > > > > 4. SAMUEL3 TAYLOR (GEORGE2, BENJAMIN1) was born 1853 in Hucknall Torkard, > > Nottingham, England, and died Unknown. He married (1) KATE BURN, daughter > > of HENRY BURN and SARAH THORNTON. She was born 1881 in Thirlby, Yorkshire, > > England, and died Unknown. He married (2) ELIZABETH BROWN 25 Dec 1872 in > > Hucknall Torkard St Marys, daughter of BROWN and ANN (BROWN). She was born > > 1852 in Kirkby In Ashfield, Notts, England, and died Unknown. > > > > More About SAMUEL TAYLOR and ELIZABETH BROWN: > > Marriage: 25 Dec 1872, Hucknall Torkard St Marys > > > > Children of SAMUEL TAYLOR and KATE BURN are: > > i. FREDERICK GEORGE4 TAYLOR, b. 1903, Nottingham, England; d. > > Unknown. > > ii. DORIS MARION TAYLOR, b. 1904, Nottingham, England; d. > > Unknown. > > 5. iii. ARTHUR SAMUEL TAYLOR, b. 20 Jun 1906, Nottingham, England; > > d. 1978, Rushcliffe, Nottingham, England. > > 6. iv. MINNIE KATHLEEN TAYLOR, b. 20 Jun 1906, Nottingham, England; > > d. Unknown, . > > v. PHYLLIS TAYLOR, b. Private. > > > > > > Children of SAMUEL TAYLOR and ELIZABETH BROWN are: > > vi. LIZZIE A S4 TAYLOR, b. 1875, Hucknall Torkard, Nottingham, > > England; d. Unknown. > > vii. FLORENCE H J TAYLOR, b. 1877, Hucknall Torkard, Nottingham, > > England; d. Unknown. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Barbara Cunningham > > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:54 AM > > To: NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [NTT] 1911 suggestions please > > > > Hi List > > > > I am hoping for a few suggestions. > > > > I have been excitedly searching the 1911 census in the hope of finally being > > able to identify my great grandparents. > > > > My grandparents divorced during WW2 and Mum had very little to do with her > > father so she was never able to give me a great deal of information. > > > > My grandfather Arthur Samuel Taylor was born on the 20th June 1906 (along > > with his twin sister Minnie Kathleen) to Sam Taylor - music teacher & Kate > > Taylor formerly Burn. Mum always said that there were 2 brothers George & > > Ginger, an older sister Marion and a younger sister Phyllis > > > > When I first got access to the 1901 census I thought finally I will find > > something, unfortunately Sam and Kate do not appear together in 1901. So I > > waited with baited breath for the 1911 census. > > > > I have grandad's birth certificate, his marriage certificate and his death > > certificate, not that they help a great deal other than to tell me that his > > dad was dead prior to my grandparents marriage in 1929 as Sam is listed as > > deceased and as a newsagent. > > > > Today I found my grandfather in the 1911 census as I had no information > > other than there names I figured it was safest to search for Grandad rather > > than his parents. > > > > I found Grandad straight away, which was fantastic. The rest of the results > > is where my request comes in. > > > > In the transcription it states the following: > > > > Taylor, Kate Head Married F 34 No Occupation > > Battersea London > > Burn, Minnie Sister Single F 31 Ironer in Laundry > > Battersea London > > Taylor Minnie Kathleen Daughter F 4 > > Nottingham > > Taylor Arthur Samuel Son M 4 > > Nottingham > > > > According to the census transcription (the original agrees - it also states > > that Kate had been married for 5 years) that Kate is married but, she is > > listed as Head of the household. As her husband isn't there I guess I > > understand why she is listed as Head, but, where could he be ? > > > > I don't know what his occupation was in 1911 he could have still been > > teacher music or a newsagent, so I figured he could be working or visiting, > > but, I have checked all the Sam's and Samuel Taylors in Nottingham and found > > nothing that could be the right one. > > > > Does anyone have a suggestion on where I try next ? > > > > Thanks heaps > > > > Barb > > > > > > > > Notts Surname List > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > Notts Surname List > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > Jean Wood 11 impasse Pampanie chez Perineau 17610 Chaniers France Tel: 0033(0)5.46.93.38.71 > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1899 - Release Date: 1/17/2009 5:50 PM Jean Wood 11 impasse Pampanie chez Perineau 17610 Chaniers France Tel: 0033(0)5.46.93.38.71

Thanks everybody who replied to my query.also on the page was a ten year old boy.what institution would that be.Roy .

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Hi Doreen Its not the institutions withheld, I have come across several in the 1911 Its the data in the last column regarding their disability or condition, such as lunatic etc Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Roy > > They have released the 1911 census a year early as you know. One of the > conditions of release was that the institution information is not revealed > until 1912. It should tell you on the 1911 site somewhere because I have > read it online but cannot recall which site. Hope this helps > > Regards Doreen

Hi Roy Or if you have the patience and hang on for a few weeks (they say 6 to 8 weeks) you will get access to the RG78 part of the enumerators papers which should tell you more Its curious why they would think you would want the page image without knowing where it was ? Another possible thought, if you check some of the other names in 1901 they may be in the same institution, I have a relative who was in the same one in both census Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Roy, > You will need to pay for a transcription to find out what the > Institution was. > > Dai > > Roy Langham wrote: >> Dear nottsgen. Ihave visited the 1911 census and I have found out my >> Grandfather was in an institution but it does not tell me what sort of >> institution it was or where. The original page has all male names. how >> could I get more information on this. His name was Joseph Oakland.Was it >> a prison or Workhouse. can anyone help.Roy Langham.

The 1911 census for England and Wales was taken on the night of Sunday 2 April, 1911. The count included all individual households, plus institutions such as prisons, workhouses, naval vessels and merchant vessels, and it also attempted to make an approximate count of the homeless. It could mean any of them. Pat Williams --- On Sun, 18/1/09, Dai & Angela Bevan <daibevan@clara.co.uk> wrote: From: Dai & Angela Bevan <daibevan@clara.co.uk> Subject: Re: [NTT] Institutions To: "Roy Langham" <r.langham1@ntlworld.com> Cc: NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, 18 January, 2009, 10:17 AM Roy, You will need to pay for a transcription to find out what the Institution was. Dai Roy Langham wrote: > Dear nottsgen. Ihave visited the 1911 census and I have found out my Grandfather was in an institution but it does not tell me what sort of institution it was or where. The original page has all male names. how could I get more information on this. His name was Joseph Oakland.Was it a prison or Workhouse. can anyone help.Roy Langham. > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear list I have found my Grandfather on the 1911 census. I purchased the transcript. Would I find any additional info if I purchased the original image? Karen Walker Port Dover, Canada

Well Barbara, Hasn't Laurie turned up gold dust! It seems to me your Great Grandpa was a bit of a lad! 2nd wife younger than his chhildren. I went systematically though find my past and found only 2 Kate BURN s marrying between 1901 and 1911, one in Newton A 1903 and one in Tynemouth 1905. The latter could well have been a possible, but no Sam Taylor appears in the complementary index. I presume that their marriage was a polite fiction! (Well, they could have gone abroad, but that seems unlikely) He would I think have been too old for a foreign military marriage Maybe your Grandpa was following in his dad's footsteps.... Jean > Message du 18/01/09 04:25 > De : "Laurie Caron" > A : "'Barbara Cunningham'" , NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [NTT] 1911 suggestions please > > > Hi Barbara, > > I found the following tree online - if you follow this, you'll then find > Samuel on the 1901 census, still widowed, living with his mother, Ann, and > daughters from his first marriage, Florrie and Lizzie. > > http://www.geocities.com/dilli63/STaylor.rtf > > > 4. SAMUEL3 TAYLOR (GEORGE2, BENJAMIN1) was born 1853 in Hucknall Torkard, > Nottingham, England, and died Unknown. He married (1) KATE BURN, daughter > of HENRY BURN and SARAH THORNTON. She was born 1881 in Thirlby, Yorkshire, > England, and died Unknown. He married (2) ELIZABETH BROWN 25 Dec 1872 in > Hucknall Torkard St Marys, daughter of BROWN and ANN (BROWN). She was born > 1852 in Kirkby In Ashfield, Notts, England, and died Unknown. > > More About SAMUEL TAYLOR and ELIZABETH BROWN: > Marriage: 25 Dec 1872, Hucknall Torkard St Marys > > Children of SAMUEL TAYLOR and KATE BURN are: > i. FREDERICK GEORGE4 TAYLOR, b. 1903, Nottingham, England; d. > Unknown. > ii. DORIS MARION TAYLOR, b. 1904, Nottingham, England; d. > Unknown. > 5. iii. ARTHUR SAMUEL TAYLOR, b. 20 Jun 1906, Nottingham, England; > d. 1978, Rushcliffe, Nottingham, England. > 6. iv. MINNIE KATHLEEN TAYLOR, b. 20 Jun 1906, Nottingham, England; > d. Unknown, . > v. PHYLLIS TAYLOR, b. Private. > > > Children of SAMUEL TAYLOR and ELIZABETH BROWN are: > vi. LIZZIE A S4 TAYLOR, b. 1875, Hucknall Torkard, Nottingham, > England; d. Unknown. > vii. FLORENCE H J TAYLOR, b. 1877, Hucknall Torkard, Nottingham, > England; d. Unknown. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Barbara Cunningham > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:54 AM > To: NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NTT] 1911 suggestions please > > Hi List > > I am hoping for a few suggestions. > > I have been excitedly searching the 1911 census in the hope of finally being > able to identify my great grandparents. > > My grandparents divorced during WW2 and Mum had very little to do with her > father so she was never able to give me a great deal of information. > > My grandfather Arthur Samuel Taylor was born on the 20th June 1906 (along > with his twin sister Minnie Kathleen) to Sam Taylor - music teacher & Kate > Taylor formerly Burn. Mum always said that there were 2 brothers George & > Ginger, an older sister Marion and a younger sister Phyllis > > When I first got access to the 1901 census I thought finally I will find > something, unfortunately Sam and Kate do not appear together in 1901. So I > waited with baited breath for the 1911 census. > > I have grandad's birth certificate, his marriage certificate and his death > certificate, not that they help a great deal other than to tell me that his > dad was dead prior to my grandparents marriage in 1929 as Sam is listed as > deceased and as a newsagent. > > Today I found my grandfather in the 1911 census as I had no information > other than there names I figured it was safest to search for Grandad rather > than his parents. > > I found Grandad straight away, which was fantastic. The rest of the results > is where my request comes in. > > In the transcription it states the following: > > Taylor, Kate Head Married F 34 No Occupation > Battersea London > Burn, Minnie Sister Single F 31 Ironer in Laundry > Battersea London > Taylor Minnie Kathleen Daughter F 4 > Nottingham > Taylor Arthur Samuel Son M 4 > Nottingham > > According to the census transcription (the original agrees - it also states > that Kate had been married for 5 years) that Kate is married but, she is > listed as Head of the household. As her husband isn't there I guess I > understand why she is listed as Head, but, where could he be ? > > I don't know what his occupation was in 1911 he could have still been > teacher music or a newsagent, so I figured he could be working or visiting, > but, I have checked all the Sam's and Samuel Taylors in Nottingham and found > nothing that could be the right one. > > Does anyone have a suggestion on where I try next ? > > Thanks heaps > > Barb > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Jean Wood 11 impasse Pampanie chez Perineau 17610 Chaniers France Tel: 0033(0)5.46.93.38.71