Your welcome. I knew I saw it somewhere quite awhile ago. Glad I found it again. Cyndislist.com is a help with plenty of resources and updated frequently. Cheryl Live simply and appreciate what you have. What is most valuable, is not what we have in our lives, but WHO we have in our lives.

www.cyndislist.com/disasters.htm#Epidemics www.cyndislist.com/medical.htm#Epidemics Cheryl Live simply and appreciate what you have. What is most valuable, is not what we have in our lives, but WHO we have in our lives.

Well, good luck, a fascinating tale and it could well be true, but just on what is before me, if true, I would think papa - 4th duke - a far likelier candidate, but all is speculation until you find the link! Again good luck! jean > Message du 01/02/09 00:13 > De : "Bruce P Barrett" > A : "Jean WOOD" , "Mailing List Nottinghamshire" > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [NTT] Possible HAYCOCK connection to Duke of Portland > > > Jean, > I am not saying the story is true or that it involved the 5th Duke however > it is plausible as he lived 1800 to 1879. When I first started looking and > read the information on Wikipedia and other sites I dismissed the story as > one of those that gave justification for being poor. Then I found another > line with the basic same story. With the addition of the 3rd line and > information about another investigation and copy of the Baptismal > Certificate I believe there is some thread of truth to the story. > My main purpose is to determine where this line of Haycock's came from. If > there are other line's with the same story they may have additional > information that allow me to identify the participants and where the family > originated. > Thanks > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean WOOD" > To: "Bruce P Barrett" ; "Mailing List > Nottinghamshire" > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:41 PM > Subject: re: [NTT] Possible HAYCOCK connection to Duke of Portland > > > > I'm just throwing in my two-penn'orth: > > A year or so ago, I listened to a (presumably - from other evidence written) > well-researched play (radio 4) about 5th Duke. I have read the Wikipaedia > piece which backs up what was said there, the main relevant thing being that > he did not have any known relationships with women. The one woman he did > yearn for was an actress, elderly by the time of the play - and possibly > older than he - whom he entertained either in London or Welbeck and she > gently let him down. > > The whole atmosphere was of a moonstruck boy with a crush, but by then > elderly (70s?) who had never enjoyed any real female company. > > If there was such a byblow in the family, might it have been his brother or > cousin who was responsible? > > Jean > > > > > > Message du 31/01/09 22:01 > > De : "Bruce P Barrett" > > A : "Mailing List Nottinghamshire" > > Copie à : > > Objet : [NTT] Possible HAYCOCK connection to Duke of Portland > > > > > > Dear list, > > > > I am helping a friend and his elderly uncle research their family history. > > There is a family legend/story that involves a connection with the Duke of > > Portland in the early 1800s. The story goes that a young woman with the > > surname of HAYCOCK, a servant at the Duke of Portland estate in > > Nottinghamshire, had a child out of wedlock who may have been fathered by > > the Duke. > > > > Current research has identified their direct ancestor as Joseph Haycock > > born about 1831 in Worksop, Nottinghamshire. Joseph married and lived in > > Sheffield, Yorkshire. He and his wife Maria Cawthorn had 5 children Fanny > > Jane, Maria, Lucy, Thomas and Annie. > > > > I have not been able to find his christening however there is a John > > Haycock christened 27 Feb 1820 at St Mary (Priory). John's mother is Ann > > Haycock a "Singlewoman" living at Bridge St in Worksop. > > > > The story of a connection to the Duke of Portland appears in 3 different > > descendant lines of Joseph. > > > > I found a query on the Nottingham message board posted in 2001 indicating > > a Duke of Portland connection but have been unable to contact the > > individual. > > > > I also made contact with another descendant of Joseph via a different > > line. The following is what he provided. > > > > > > > > "I spoke to my mother this morning about the Duke of Portland link and the > > story, as she recalls it, is that it is possibly John Haycock who was the > > illegitimate son of the Duke of Portland. Someone in the family, she is > > not sure who, tried investigating the matter sometime between 1900 & 1950 > > (a bit vague but she is trying to recall something that was last discussed > > around 50 years ago).She tells me that there were a number of letters in > > my paternal grandmother's possession relating to it but they were > > destroyed at some stage as they were causing a rift in the family. My > > mother did get to have a look at them before they were destroyed and she > > seems to recall a letter from a solicitor stating that (whoever) was doing > > the investigation would be well advised to leave things alone. She seems > > to regard this as proof that there was some basis in the rumour and this > > was the Duke's solicitor warning the person off; however I think it could > > just as easily have been the person's so! > > licitor advising them that it wasn't worth the effort as there was no > > substance in the matter. > > > > > > > > She says that the person, who she thinks was named John or Joseph but is > > not sure, never held down a job but would quite often disappear for some > > length of time and reappear with money. His wife was obviously suspicious > > of this and found out that he was being paid for doing jobs around the > > Duke's estate. On one of these visits the man died and was given a fairly > > extravagant funeral with a hearse pulled by 4 black horses. If it is John > > and there is truth in the story then his father could have been the 4th > > Duke. If it is Joseph then it could have been the 5th Duke who, according > > to Wikipedia, was a bit of a strange chap." > > > > > > > > His mother provided a copy of John Haycock's baptism certificate dated in > > 1903. > > > > > > > > I am looking for others with this legend/story in their family in an > > effort to determine as much of the story possible. I would like to know > > where this family originated as I can't find them in Nottinghamshire prior > > to 1820. > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Bruce Barrett > > > > Heath, Ohio > > > > > > Notts Surname List > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > Jean Wood 11 impasse Pampanie chez Perineau 17610 Chaniers France Tel: > 0033(0)5.46.93.38.71 > > > Jean Wood 11 impasse Pampanie chez Perineau 17610 Chaniers France Tel: 0033(0)5.46.93.38.71

Does anything on this site help? I put into google "Cemeteries near Basford Notts" http://www.geocities.com/whittakergen/notts/cems/index.htm Jean > Message du 31/01/09 18:22 > De : "Jackie Davies" > A : Nottsgen-L@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : [NTT] Burial > > > Hi, I have been trying to find where my ancestor Isaac Richardson is buried but I have had no luck. He died in the hospital workhouse, Beech Ave, Basford, and was buried on 3 May 1897. I have tried searching Basford, the General and Rock cemetery, I wondered if anyone could help or give me some idea's. > Thank you > Jackie > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Jean Wood 11 impasse Pampanie chez Perineau 17610 Chaniers France Tel: 0033(0)5.46.93.38.71

I'm just throwing in my two-penn'orth: A year or so ago, I listened to a (presumably - from other evidence written) well-researched play (radio 4) about 5th Duke. I have read the Wikipaedia piece which backs up what was said there, the main relevant thing being that he did not have any known relationships with women. The one woman he did yearn for was an actress, elderly by the time of the play - and possibly older than he - whom he entertained either in London or Welbeck and she gently let him down. The whole atmosphere was of a moonstruck boy with a crush, but by then elderly (70s?) who had never enjoyed any real female company. If there was such a byblow in the family, might it have been his brother or cousin who was responsible? Jean > Message du 31/01/09 22:01 > De : "Bruce P Barrett" > A : "Mailing List Nottinghamshire" > Copie à : > Objet : [NTT] Possible HAYCOCK connection to Duke of Portland > > > Dear list, > > I am helping a friend and his elderly uncle research their family history. There is a family legend/story that involves a connection with the Duke of Portland in the early 1800s. The story goes that a young woman with the surname of HAYCOCK, a servant at the Duke of Portland estate in Nottinghamshire, had a child out of wedlock who may have been fathered by the Duke. > > Current research has identified their direct ancestor as Joseph Haycock born about 1831 in Worksop, Nottinghamshire. Joseph married and lived in Sheffield, Yorkshire. He and his wife Maria Cawthorn had 5 children Fanny Jane, Maria, Lucy, Thomas and Annie. > > I have not been able to find his christening however there is a John Haycock christened 27 Feb 1820 at St Mary (Priory). John's mother is Ann Haycock a "Singlewoman" living at Bridge St in Worksop. > > The story of a connection to the Duke of Portland appears in 3 different descendant lines of Joseph. > > I found a query on the Nottingham message board posted in 2001 indicating a Duke of Portland connection but have been unable to contact the individual. > > I also made contact with another descendant of Joseph via a different line. The following is what he provided. > > > > "I spoke to my mother this morning about the Duke of Portland link and the story, as she recalls it, is that it is possibly John Haycock who was the illegitimate son of the Duke of Portland. Someone in the family, she is not sure who, tried investigating the matter sometime between 1900 & 1950 (a bit vague but she is trying to recall something that was last discussed around 50 years ago).She tells me that there were a number of letters in my paternal grandmother's possession relating to it but they were destroyed at some stage as they were causing a rift in the family. My mother did get to have a look at them before they were destroyed and she seems to recall a letter from a solicitor stating that (whoever) was doing the investigation would be well advised to leave things alone. She seems to regard this as proof that there was some basis in the rumour and this was the Duke's solicitor warning the person off; however I think it could just as easily have been the person's so! > licitor advising them that it wasn't worth the effort as there was no substance in the matter. > > > > She says that the person, who she thinks was named John or Joseph but is not sure, never held down a job but would quite often disappear for some length of time and reappear with money. His wife was obviously suspicious of this and found out that he was being paid for doing jobs around the Duke's estate. On one of these visits the man died and was given a fairly extravagant funeral with a hearse pulled by 4 black horses. If it is John and there is truth in the story then his father could have been the 4th Duke. If it is Joseph then it could have been the 5th Duke who, according to Wikipedia, was a bit of a strange chap." > > > > His mother provided a copy of John Haycock's baptism certificate dated in 1903. > > > > I am looking for others with this legend/story in their family in an effort to determine as much of the story possible. I would like to know where this family originated as I can't find them in Nottinghamshire prior to 1820. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Bruce Barrett > > Heath, Ohio > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Jean Wood 11 impasse Pampanie chez Perineau 17610 Chaniers France Tel: 0033(0)5.46.93.38.71

Hello Pat, you could try the following site. It is South African but has a list of international epidemics. Regards Lynette, Surrey http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/plagues_disasters.html

Hi Margot, I have someone on my tree who was baptised Susan Jane in 1831 in NSW. She appears on her marriage in 1848 as Sarah Jane, second marriage in 1862 as Sarah Jane, and on her death certificate she is back as Susan Jane. I don't know if that answers your question, or if we are both just confused. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "marsco" <skeetch@bigpond.net.au> To: <NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:26 PM Subject: [NTT] Nicknames > Hi everyone, > > I am wondering if the name Sarah and Susan can be interchanged. None of > the > sites I found really help me. > > Cheers >   > Margot > Gladstone, QLD > Australia > > Researching in Nottinghamshire: Marriott, Dewsbury, Corbet, Cheetham, > Straw, > Leivers, Paxton, Goddard, Jarvis, Bostock, Briggs, Chamberlain, White, > Woodcock, Attenborough, James, Wootton, Walker, Spencer, Daye, Wilkinson, > Burgeis, Hutchinson, Hulford > > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I have been trying to find where my ancestor Isaac Richardson is buried but I have had no luck. He died in the hospital workhouse, Beech Ave, Basford, and was buried on 3 May 1897. I have tried searching Basford, the General and Rock cemetery, I wondered if anyone could help or give me some idea's. Thank you Jackie

Jean, I am not saying the story is true or that it involved the 5th Duke however it is plausible as he lived 1800 to 1879. When I first started looking and read the information on Wikipedia and other sites I dismissed the story as one of those that gave justification for being poor. Then I found another line with the basic same story. With the addition of the 3rd line and information about another investigation and copy of the Baptismal Certificate I believe there is some thread of truth to the story. My main purpose is to determine where this line of Haycock's came from. If there are other line's with the same story they may have additional information that allow me to identify the participants and where the family originated. Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean WOOD" <jeangrahame@orange.fr> To: "Bruce P Barrett" <brucepbarrett@roadrunner.com>; "Mailing List Nottinghamshire" <NOTTSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:41 PM Subject: re: [NTT] Possible HAYCOCK connection to Duke of Portland I'm just throwing in my two-penn'orth: A year or so ago, I listened to a (presumably - from other evidence written) well-researched play (radio 4) about 5th Duke. I have read the Wikipaedia piece which backs up what was said there, the main relevant thing being that he did not have any known relationships with women. The one woman he did yearn for was an actress, elderly by the time of the play - and possibly older than he - whom he entertained either in London or Welbeck and she gently let him down. The whole atmosphere was of a moonstruck boy with a crush, but by then elderly (70s?) who had never enjoyed any real female company. If there was such a byblow in the family, might it have been his brother or cousin who was responsible? Jean > Message du 31/01/09 22:01 > De : "Bruce P Barrett" > A : "Mailing List Nottinghamshire" > Copie à : > Objet : [NTT] Possible HAYCOCK connection to Duke of Portland > > > Dear list, > > I am helping a friend and his elderly uncle research their family history. > There is a family legend/story that involves a connection with the Duke of > Portland in the early 1800s. The story goes that a young woman with the > surname of HAYCOCK, a servant at the Duke of Portland estate in > Nottinghamshire, had a child out of wedlock who may have been fathered by > the Duke. > > Current research has identified their direct ancestor as Joseph Haycock > born about 1831 in Worksop, Nottinghamshire. Joseph married and lived in > Sheffield, Yorkshire. He and his wife Maria Cawthorn had 5 children Fanny > Jane, Maria, Lucy, Thomas and Annie. > > I have not been able to find his christening however there is a John > Haycock christened 27 Feb 1820 at St Mary (Priory). John's mother is Ann > Haycock a "Singlewoman" living at Bridge St in Worksop. > > The story of a connection to the Duke of Portland appears in 3 different > descendant lines of Joseph. > > I found a query on the Nottingham message board posted in 2001 indicating > a Duke of Portland connection but have been unable to contact the > individual. > > I also made contact with another descendant of Joseph via a different > line. The following is what he provided. > > > > "I spoke to my mother this morning about the Duke of Portland link and the > story, as she recalls it, is that it is possibly John Haycock who was the > illegitimate son of the Duke of Portland. Someone in the family, she is > not sure who, tried investigating the matter sometime between 1900 & 1950 > (a bit vague but she is trying to recall something that was last discussed > around 50 years ago).She tells me that there were a number of letters in > my paternal grandmother's possession relating to it but they were > destroyed at some stage as they were causing a rift in the family. My > mother did get to have a look at them before they were destroyed and she > seems to recall a letter from a solicitor stating that (whoever) was doing > the investigation would be well advised to leave things alone. She seems > to regard this as proof that there was some basis in the rumour and this > was the Duke's solicitor warning the person off; however I think it could > just as easily have been the person's so! > licitor advising them that it wasn't worth the effort as there was no > substance in the matter. > > > > She says that the person, who she thinks was named John or Joseph but is > not sure, never held down a job but would quite often disappear for some > length of time and reappear with money. His wife was obviously suspicious > of this and found out that he was being paid for doing jobs around the > Duke's estate. On one of these visits the man died and was given a fairly > extravagant funeral with a hearse pulled by 4 black horses. If it is John > and there is truth in the story then his father could have been the 4th > Duke. If it is Joseph then it could have been the 5th Duke who, according > to Wikipedia, was a bit of a strange chap." > > > > His mother provided a copy of John Haycock's baptism certificate dated in > 1903. > > > > I am looking for others with this legend/story in their family in an > effort to determine as much of the story possible. I would like to know > where this family originated as I can't find them in Nottinghamshire prior > to 1820. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Bruce Barrett > > Heath, Ohio > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Jean Wood 11 impasse Pampanie chez Perineau 17610 Chaniers France Tel: 0033(0)5.46.93.38.71

Hi everyone, I am wondering if the name Sarah and Susan can be interchanged. None of the sites I found really help me. Cheers   Margot Gladstone, QLD Australia Researching in Nottinghamshire: Marriott, Dewsbury, Corbet, Cheetham, Straw, Leivers, Paxton, Goddard, Jarvis, Bostock, Briggs, Chamberlain, White, Woodcock, Attenborough, James, Wootton, Walker, Spencer, Daye, Wilkinson, Burgeis, Hutchinson, Hulford

Dear list, I am helping a friend and his elderly uncle research their family history. There is a family legend/story that involves a connection with the Duke of Portland in the early 1800s. The story goes that a young woman with the surname of HAYCOCK, a servant at the Duke of Portland estate in Nottinghamshire, had a child out of wedlock who may have been fathered by the Duke. Current research has identified their direct ancestor as Joseph Haycock born about 1831 in Worksop, Nottinghamshire. Joseph married and lived in Sheffield, Yorkshire. He and his wife Maria Cawthorn had 5 children Fanny Jane, Maria, Lucy, Thomas and Annie. I have not been able to find his christening however there is a John Haycock christened 27 Feb 1820 at St Mary (Priory). John's mother is Ann Haycock a "Singlewoman" living at Bridge St in Worksop. The story of a connection to the Duke of Portland appears in 3 different descendant lines of Joseph. I found a query on the Nottingham message board posted in 2001 indicating a Duke of Portland connection but have been unable to contact the individual. I also made contact with another descendant of Joseph via a different line. The following is what he provided. "I spoke to my mother this morning about the Duke of Portland link and the story, as she recalls it, is that it is possibly John Haycock who was the illegitimate son of the Duke of Portland. Someone in the family, she is not sure who, tried investigating the matter sometime between 1900 & 1950 (a bit vague but she is trying to recall something that was last discussed around 50 years ago).She tells me that there were a number of letters in my paternal grandmother's possession relating to it but they were destroyed at some stage as they were causing a rift in the family. My mother did get to have a look at them before they were destroyed and she seems to recall a letter from a solicitor stating that (whoever) was doing the investigation would be well advised to leave things alone. She seems to regard this as proof that there was some basis in the rumour and this was the Duke's solicitor warning the person off; however I think it could just as easily have been the person's solicitor advising them that it wasn't worth the effort as there was no substance in the matter. She says that the person, who she thinks was named John or Joseph but is not sure, never held down a job but would quite often disappear for some length of time and reappear with money. His wife was obviously suspicious of this and found out that he was being paid for doing jobs around the Duke's estate. On one of these visits the man died and was given a fairly extravagant funeral with a hearse pulled by 4 black horses. If it is John and there is truth in the story then his father could have been the 4th Duke. If it is Joseph then it could have been the 5th Duke who, according to Wikipedia, was a bit of a strange chap." His mother provided a copy of John Haycock's baptism certificate dated in 1903. I am looking for others with this legend/story in their family in an effort to determine as much of the story possible. I would like to know where this family originated as I can't find them in Nottinghamshire prior to 1820. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Bruce Barrett Heath, Ohio

Hi Pat, Don't know if either of these are the site you were thinking of? http://www.hunimex.com/warwick/diseases.html http://urbanrim.org.uk/diseases.htm Two deaths close together could possibly be an infectious disease, or the result of an accident. What Christian names are you searching for? Cheers Trish Nowra NSW > Hi > > I thought I had a page bookmarked for plagues of > the world and a time line of such. But I cannot > find it and googling has come up with all sorts of > things but not what I am after. > > I suspect that at least three members of the > HEMSLEY family died - two registered (1849) on the > same page the other is twelve months earlier so > could be separate incident. So I thought maybe > there was some sickness going around?? > > Does anyone have a good URL for such things? > > Thank you > > Regards, > Pat Wade (Nee King) > > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I had not heard of this one, but I did know about 1816, the Year without a Summer. I came across it when I heard a radio play, featuring the young (7 year old) Edgar Allen Poe, and a family in the Lake District when all the harvest failed. Just put 1816into Google and lots comes up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer http://volcanoes.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_year_without_a_summer_1816 http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200124/000020012401A0929483.php There are others! Jean

Hi Pat, There was a cholera epidemic in 1849. Nottingham University have put online an Archive about Public Health and Housing at: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/mss/learning/health-housing/index.phtml Under the heading of Disease and Death there is the following listing cholera cases in Nottinghamshire and Lincolnshire: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/mss/learning/health-housing/theme3/display_document.php?ref=07-3492m&view=&format=jpg&page=1 Torven > Hi > I thought I had a page bookmarked for plagues of > the world and a time line of such. But I cannot > find it and googling has come up with all sorts of > things but not what I am after. > > I suspect that at least three members of the > HEMSLEY family died - two registered (1849) on the > same page the other is twelve months earlier so > could be separate incident. So I thought maybe > there was some sickness going around?? > > Does anyone have a good URL for such things? > > Thank you > > Regards, > Pat Wade (Nee King) > > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Thanks to some wonderful help from Graham I have some extra names to my extended family tree. With this added information I am very interested in contact with anyone researching any of the following names. Ann READ married Samuel HEMSLEY in 1836 and I think maybe she married Thomas MORLEY in 1857. There are children from both families. Mary READ married William STANSELL in 1847 - unsure if there are children here. Their brother William READ married Sarah BARNETT in 1845 - in Lanchashire and this family moved to Victoria, Aust. Love contact with anyone researching these names. Thank you Regards, Pat Wade (Nee King)

I'm wondering if SKS can help me. I have been searching for many years for my Granddads Brother Harry who was on the 1901 census aged 14 then he totally disappears. I can't find him in the Marriage/death index, the family are on the 1911 but not him. My mother always said that Granddad had two brothers, both killed in WW1. I can find the death of one but not Harry. My question is, does anyone know if some of the soldiers killed in the war were not included in the death index? Many thanks Paula -- Paula

Amongst my dictionaries I have at least 3 on Christian names. I have looked up Susan, Sarah and Sally. I already knew that Sally is a common diminutive of Sarah. They do not link Susan with either of the others, but one says Sally is /was often used in combinations as Sayy-Ann and Sally-Jane. Now, Sarah-Jane was common too. My GUESS and it is only a guess is that Susan did not like her name. At birth and death she had no control over it, but as an adult she could choose the one she preferred! My Bertha, added the name Irene as a first name on the electoral roll in 1938, on her death cert, she is just Bertha. 2 of my 3 daughters have oscillated between their first and second names, picking the less unusual ones at adolescence and returning to the rarer ones as they emerged the other side! (in case you are wondering Penelope Helen and Esther Corinne!) Not everyone likes the given name! We have just had a grandson, a week ago, Alf Thorstein. His father is Norwegian, but they live in Bolton. It will be interesting to see how he gets on with his name in a few years time! I hope this gives you something to think about! Jean > Message du 31/01/09 10:11 > De : "Trev Symonds" > A : NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [NTT] Nicknames > > Hi Margot, I have someone on my tree who was baptised Susan Jane in 1831 in NSW. She appears on her marriage in 1848 as Sarah Jane, second marriage in 1862 as Sarah Jane, and on her death certificate she is back as Susan Jane. I don't know if that answers your question, or if we are both just confused. Cheers Trish Nowra NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "marsco" To: Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:26 PM Subject: [NTT] Nicknames > Hi everyone, > > I am wondering if the name Sarah and Susan can be interchanged. None of > the > sites I found really help me. > > Cheers >   > Margot > Gladstone, QLD > Australia > > Researching in Nottinghamshire: Marriott, Dewsbury, Corbet, Cheetham, > Straw, > Leivers, Paxton, Goddard, Jarvis, Bostock, Briggs, Chamberlain, White, > Woodcock, Attenborough, James, Wootton, Walker, Spencer, Daye, Wilkinson, > Burgeis, Hutchinson, Hulford > > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------! ------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Pat,I can`t help with a url but I have got a cheap book on Ebay Daniel Defore`s "A Journal of the Plague Year" it`s an old paperback which was published in 1959 and will go for penniesGeorge Carter in Whaley Bridge> Hi > > I thought I had a page bookmarked for plagues of > the world and a time line of such. But I cannot > find it and googling has come up with all sorts of > things but not what I am after. > > I suspect that at least three members of the > HEMSLEY family died - two registered (1849) on the > same page the other is twelve months earlier so > could be separate incident. So I thought maybe > there was some sickness going around?? > > Does anyone have a good URL for such things? > > Thank you > > Regards, > Pat Wade (Nee King) Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Searching for father and place of birth of David Richard NUGENT and his mother Born January 1916 (diff dates given – 20/24 Jan) I established his mother was Bertha Nugent, (circa 1877) but whether married or single I cannot find out. He went to Worksop College (a public school, so who paid for it?) from1928 -1934, and later on Sandhurst. In the 1930s his mother lived in Ferring Sussex. She died in St Richards Hospital Chichester in August 1947, described as 70, single, of Walnut House, Rustington, possibly as a domestic or companion. The son believed his mother to have been married I have been in touch with several archivists/local historians (including Worksop College, Sussex County/Sussex and Suffolk Regiments, Sandhurst and Irish records) who have all been extremely helpful but no one can find any birth date or place for either of them nor any definite indication of a parental marriage. Yes, I have tackled all possible GRO etc records, including military. I did ask a month ago, but wonder if anyone new/returning might have any knowledge even someone who might have known him at school/Sandhurst (they will be in their 90s!) HELP! Jean

Hi All, The current discussion re 1848-9 reminded me of my own research for end of 18C when I came across an apparent increased number of deaths in local Parish Records. Although not directly linked I thought the following notes from BBC News may be of interest to others who have found similar in their research: When a killer cloud hit Britain By Dan Walker BBC Two's Timewatch (2007) A little over 200 years ago, the eruption of a volcano in Iceland sent a huge toxic cloud across Western Europe. It was the greatest natural disaster to hit modern Britain, killing many thousands - but it has been almost forgotten by history. "Such multitudes are indisposed by fevers in this country that farmers have difficulty gathering their harvest, the labourers having been almost every day carried out of the field incapable of work and many die." So wrote Hertfordshire poet William Cowper in the summer of 1783. Across the country, newspapers reported the presence of a thick smog, and a dull sun, "coloured like it has been soaked in blood". The cloud first reached Britain on the 22 June 1783. In his Naturalist's Journal, Gilbert White reported: "The peculiar haze or smoky fog that prevailed in this island and even beyond its limits was a most extraordinary appearance, unlike anything known within the memory of man." The cloud contained sulphur dioxide and sulphuric acid which attacked the lungs of its victims, choking and killing men and women, rich and poor alike. Panic and fear were widespread - as was death. But just how many died, no-one knew until recently. Dr John Grattan of Aberystwyth University, Wales, has spent a decade scrutinising hundreds of local parish records looking for evidence of Laki's deadly effect. From the fives and tens in each parish, Laki's death toll increases into the hundreds, then thousands, then tens of thousands. In total, he estimates Laki's killer cloud took the lives of 23,000 British men and women, making it the greatest natural disaster in modern British history. France and other countries were similarly hit. I have reduced above from origional but full content can be read to BBC website and there are several other references to the Laki Volcano on other websites. Between 1783 and 1784 it turned summer into winter followed by one of the harshest winters experienced. Regards, Gilly