Hi New to this list from across the border in Derbyshire, so posting interests. Coal mining families, namely:   WATSON from Calverton to Hucknall Torkard CLAYTON - Hucknall Torkard BANCROFT - Hucknall Torkard   Any connections?   Liz  

Hi Barry Bolham lane still exists, off Moorgate in Retford which was part of Clarborough parish at one time. Frances Costello Retford Notts ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Laughton" <barrylaughtonquick@gmail.com> To: <NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:05 AM Subject: [NTT] Bollom Lane? > > Hi, This is a query, in 1841 and onwards was there a Bollom Lane in > Clarborough, or is it a possible mistranscription of bottom. Any help > would > be appreciated. Regards Barry > > -- > For all my names and some charts go to > http://barrylaughton.bravehost.com/ > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.0/1959 - Release Date: 02/18/09 20:55:00

Hi, This is a query, in 1841 and onwards was there a Bollom Lane in Clarborough, or is it a possible mistranscription of bottom. Any help would be appreciated. Regards Barry -- For all my names and some charts go to http://barrylaughton.bravehost.com/

Usually people are named after the places they lived - place names are much older than family names - but there are always exceptions - where a family of importance owned some land and then the newer place acquired that name. Farms might be named after the early owner of a farm - then it became a town. I'm on my way out but will look up Attenborough when I come back - borough = town. I will check Atten! Jean > Message du 19/02/09 09:36 > De : "Adele" > A : NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : [NTT] Attenborough > > > My friend found the town called Attenborough on the map, would this be named after the family by any chance please!! thanks. > > > Adele Pentony-Graham > Carterton District Early Settlers Researcher > Carterton Cemetery Clareville Taphophile Group > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Jean Wood 11 impasse Pampanie chez Perineau 17610 Chaniers France Tel: 0033(0)5.46.93.38.71

Dear all, As with most things, all you have to do is Google the word(s) involved - in this case, "Attenborough, Notts" - and you will find all the information. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jean WOOD Sent: 19 February 2009 08:47 To: Adele; NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NTT] Attenborough Usually people are named after the places they lived - place names are much older than family names - but there are always exceptions - where a family of importance owned some land and then the newer place acquired that name. Farms might be named after the early owner of a farm - then it became a town. I'm on my way out but will look up Attenborough when I come back - borough = town. I will check Atten! Jean > Message du 19/02/09 09:36 > De : "Adele" > A : NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : [NTT] Attenborough > > > My friend found the town called Attenborough on the map, would this be named after the family by any chance please!! thanks. > > > Adele Pentony-Graham > Carterton District Early Settlers Researcher > Carterton Cemetery Clareville Taphophile Group > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Jean Wood 11 impasse Pampanie chez Perineau 17610 Chaniers France Tel: 0033(0)5.46.93.38.71 Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Doreen, Sorry, he is not on the NottsFHS burial CD. There is no one of the right age. The closest in date is John TOWLE 42 in Radford in MArch 1857. regards, Dai Doreen wrote: > Hi List > > My sister in law would like the certificate for a John TOWLE. We have been > trying for a couple of years to get it but ones we ordered are not whom we > are seeking. I had contact with a person who gave me this information but > have lost contact with them: > > John TOWLE died 10 Aug 1856 of a Scrofulous Abscess. Death Certificate > states husband of Lydia and his age is 47 on certificate. (He is 37 in > 1841)? Should be 52 on death certificate. > > > > Is there a record on the Death CD for this person? If someone can check for > me please I will be most happy. > > Thank you Doreen > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Thank you very much to the folk that looked up ATTENBOROUGH, seems we are on the correct name, my friend remarked that was fast... I hope to visit her in a few weeks at Hastings, Hawkes Bay, and see who she has on the family tree and how far back... She did ask, is there a list of Lace Makers, as she was sure one of the family was one.. Adele Pentony-Graham Carterton District Early Settlers Researcher Carterton Cemetery Clareville Taphophile Group

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Adele Wikepedia (not always 100% reliable), claims that Attenborough was known as Addensburgh in Saxon times. This is confirmed by the local council website - Broxtowe, which says "The origin of Attenborough lies in Saxon times and derives from the name "Adenburgh" which means "the settlement of Adda's people". Adda is thought to have provided the first chapel here, a clay and wattle "House of Prayer" in 946AD. The present day stone chancel of St. Mary's Church is built on this site and is thought to have existed in 1042. It is recorded in the Doomsday Book of 1086." David in Ilkeston In a message dated 19/02/2009 08:35:58 GMT Standard Time, PentonyGraham@xtra.co.nz writes: My friend found the town called Attenborough on the map, would this be named after the family by any chance please!! thanks. Adele Pentony-Graham Carterton District Early Settlers Researcher Carterton Cemetery Clareville Taphophile Group Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have some ATTENBOROUGH ATTENBORROW(E) ATTENBURRO, ADDYNBOROWE etc. from Stapleford, Beeston and Clifton etc. from earlier centuries. They may connect to George in Hyson green. A brief outline is on my website (address below). I'm interested in the marriage 1730 to William WALLIS of Stapleford. On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:59:21 +0000, you wrote: >Adele, >You told me in a later note that a possible address was Pleasant Lane, >Hyson Green. I found a Samuel at Pleasant Lane in 1851, but his father >was George, not Samuel. Some interesting Ancestry transcriptions here! > >/HO107/; Piece: /2130/; Folio: /88/; Page: /4; /8 Pleasant Lane Ison Green >George Allenborron 50 Bricklayer, Born Notts Stapleford. >Mary Allenborron 24 >Sarah Allenborron 22 >George Allenborron 20 >John Allenborron 18 >Emma Allenborron 17 >Ann Allenborron 14 >Abraham Allenborron 10 >Samuel Attenberger 8 born Ison [Hyson] Green >Walter Attenberger 4 >Isaac Grant 15 > >regards, >Dai > >Adele wrote: >> Am after anything on Samuel Attenborough... also he had a son of the same name... maybe something to do with lace making.. am doing this for a friend here in NZ, they are part of her ancestors!! >> >> Many thanks.. >> >> >> >> >> Adele Pentony-Graham >> Carterton District Early Settlers Researcher >> Carterton Cemetery Clareville Taphophile Group >> >> >> Notts Surname List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > >Notts Surname List > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message regards, Trevor Simpson in Nottinghamshire, UK. Our Web site is: http://uk.geocities.com/trevsimpson@btinternet.com (It used to be: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/simpsont) interests, all in GB in UK in EU and The Commonwealth: ASTELL, BOWLER, CATER, CLEMENTS, CLEMENTSON, CORBETT, CROXALL, HARRISON, HOGG,JAQUES, LOCKTON, MANDER, MAYCOCK, MEEKLAH, MILWARD, MOORE, NOBLE, RAWBONE, SANDERS, SIMPSON, TRIVETT, TRUEMAN, WALLIS, WASHBROOK, WOOD mainly in Mercia: Derbys, Leics, Notts, Staffs, Warks & Worcs BARTON, DYE, KEDGLEY, PANNELL, SKAE in London, Middx, Surrey & Kent

If anyone is able to look up the birth of Jane Morris in 1843-44 in Basford it would be very greatly appreciated. Her father is listed as Thomas Morris a miller on her marriage certificate but I can not find any registry listing for her so I thought parish records may be the place to turn. There is a Jane Morris listed but when i ordered the birth certificate it said father was a coal dealer master something. I have found this Thomas in later census returns and he is still a coal dealer. Thanks in advance Julia in Canada

Correction of typo My daughter did a deed POLL!!! Jean > Message du 18/02/09 04:08 > De : Tamhbrih@aol.com > A : genmailnz@gmail.com, NOTTSGEN@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [NTT] Researching Family Name of Beeton > > > Hi Keith, > > I sure did! And by looking at it - he would have been a son of Henry (not a > John) this William disappears from the UK census after 1861 (My William > immigrated in 1864) the other clue is that my William went back to Derby in 1902. And > now we have the Fowers - this is really interesting to me. > Wow do I know about mistakes on Death Certificates - but Not to the extent > as you have experienced - Good grief (laugh). What a nightmare that had to be > for you! I have had a few problems - even with my biological father (the > correct name of his mother). But good heavens - never heard of a female named > Herbert - lololol! > I had run across peoples ancestry.com family websites that say that William > was a son of Henry - I'm beginning to think they may be right - but I want to > exhaust all aspects of this! This William is the only William in the area of > o the age and birth at this time. I just hate to say it is true without being > able to prove it or disprove it for that matter! (smile)! > > Thank you for all your help! > > Warmest Regards, > Tammy > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe > bemailfooterNO62) > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Jean Wood 11 impasse Pampanie chez Perineau 17610 Chaniers France Tel: 0033(0)5.46.93.38.71

Interesting remarks - but do not be surprised about ANY first names. ALL the females in my first husbands family had the name Douglas including my 38 year old daughter who is now trying to lose it! (She has already done a deed pole to change to her step father's name and now she is marriaed to a Spanish vet, it is hyphenated ---Wood. Do not forget, that like Douglas, Herbert was a well known surname, and that may well have been the origin of her having it as a given name. That might give you a clue as to further ancestors. (Douglas used to be a female name in the 16C as Evelyn was a male name, now generally female. ) Many names have changed in use. My husband's first brother-in law - Hilary was horribly teased, as was a school fried, a male Valentine... In England, there have not been many limitations on given names, unlike strongly Catholic countries. Food for thought? Jean > Message du 18/02/09 04:08 > De : Tamhbrih@aol.com > A : genmailnz@gmail.com, NOTTSGEN@rootsweb.com > Copie à : > Objet : Re: [NTT] Researching Family Name of Beeton > > > Hi Keith, > > I sure did! And by looking at it - he would have been a son of Henry (not a > John) this William disappears from the UK census after 1861 (My William > immigrated in 1864) the other clue is that my William went back to Derby in 1902. And > now we have the Fowers - this is really interesting to me. > Wow do I know about mistakes on Death Certificates - but Not to the extent > as you have experienced - Good grief (laugh). What a nightmare that had to be > for you! I have had a few problems - even with my biological father (the > correct name of his mother). But good heavens - never heard of a female named > Herbert - lololol! > I had run across peoples ancestry.com family websites that say that William > was a son of Henry - I'm beginning to think they may be right - but I want to > exhaust all aspects of this! This William is the only William in the area of > o the age and birth at this time. I just hate to say it is true without being > able to prove it or disprove it for that matter! (smile)! > > Thank you for all your help! > > Warmest Regards, > Tammy > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe > bemailfooterNO62) > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Jean Wood 11 impasse Pampanie chez Perineau 17610 Chaniers France Tel: 0033(0)5.46.93.38.71

Many thanks Dai, much appreciated Elaine

Diane, please excuse my slip of the brain in my earlier note, when I addressed you as Alice. I have found in the 1901 census in Leicester an Alice BRACKENBURY, aged 25 who was born Horbling, Leics. I suspect this is the lady you are seeking. Her parents were not in the same house, her elder sister was head of household. Dai Dai & Angela Bevan wrote: > Alice, > Adding to what John has told you, FreeBMD has no birth marriage or death > of anyone with the surname HORBLING, so I suspect that is a > mistranscription. However searching free BMD (not complete, and with > some errors) found no BRACKENB* (to allow for BRACKENBERRY etc) > marring an Alice whose surname began with H. I think you have a bit of > a mystery on your hands:-) > > There is a birth in London Alice May BRACKENBURY Dec 1904 St. Geo. > H. Sq. 1a 424 > > Dai > > John Carter wrote: > >> Diane, >> >> The only marriage I can find of a James William FIRMAN in Nottingham during >> 1903 was that to Alice Elizabeth POLE. >> [Nottingham, March Quarter, Volume 7b, Page 450]. >> >> James William FIRMAN was probably born in Nottingham during 1880 >> [Nottingham, March Quarter, Volume 7b, Page 319] the son of Henry William >> FIRMAN (an oil miller) & Louisa SANDERS, married 25 December 1877. He was >> baptised 6 September 1882. >> >> The only Alice May FIRMAN born after 1903 I could find was one born during >> 1907 in Kingston, Middlesex. >> >> I could find no FIRMAN/BRACKENBURY or FIRMAN/HORBLING marriages. >> >> I hope this is helps. >> >> Regards John >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Diane N >> Sent: 17 February 2009 11:33 >> To: nottsgen@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [NTT] Marriage Record >> >> >> Good Morning, >> I am trying to verify some info and was hopeing someone could help. I am >> looking for the marriage record for James William Firman & Alice Brackenbury >> (born Horbling)married March 02, 1903 in Nottingham and also the birth of >> Alice May Firman October 28 1904 in Nottingham. This info comes from a >> declaration of intent for naturalization in the US and also family, but I >> don't have anything to verify this, and can't locate them. Hope someone can >> shed some light on this. >> Thank you >> Diane >> >> >> >> Notts Surname List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> Notts Surname List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Hi David, Mmmm, wonder if we maybe related (smile). My William in all census records with the exception of one says he was born in 1843 (one says 1844) so it's pretty consistent there. How interesting that your Beeton's lived near a Fletchers Gate? If my Williams father is Henry Beeton I believe he married a Fletcher (odd) Maybe Henry's father William and your John's father were brothers (grin) Anyway, thank you! Best Regards, Tammy **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)

I was lucky enough to get a complimentary ticket for "WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE!) 27 Feb to 1 March at Olympia, London :-) Now I find I shall not be able to go :-( If anyone can put the ticket to good use please let me have your name and address and I will gladly send it on. Cliff

Jane, MSURNAME MFIRSTNAME FSURNAME FFIRSTNAME Place (Full) DATE APPLEBY James WHITWORTH Jane Elston All Saints 24/11/1874 Dai *Marriage Search* MSURNAME MFIRSTNAME FSURNAME FFIRSTNAME Place (Full) DATE APPLEBY James WHITWORTH Jane Elston All Saints 24/11/1874 Elaine Stephens wrote: > Thank you Dai for looking previously, > > Morning all again > just one more look up that might help would be appreciated if I may > > Marriages Dec 1874 > Appleby James Southwell 7b/609 > Whitworth Jane Southwell 7b/609 > > Many thanks, also my relatives are fishmongers and there is a lot of movement between Scarborough and Newark with my lot. Does anyone know where I might be able to find out more about the fishmongers in Newark and trade as I haven't found a deal by googling > > Elaine > > > > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Dai for looking previously, Morning all again just one more look up that might help would be appreciated if I may Marriages Dec 1874  Appleby     James          Southwell     7b/609      Whitworth     Jane           Southwell     7b/609      Many thanks, also my relatives are fishmongers and there is a lot of movement between Scarborough and Newark with my lot. Does anyone know where I might be able to find out more about the fishmongers in Newark and trade as I haven't found a deal by googling Elaine

Tamhbrih@aol.com wrote: > Hello All, > I'm new to the overseas research. I've been doing family research for about > 10 yrs but this is my first time at going abroad - so to speak (smile). > My 2nd great grandfather (my grandmother's grandfather) was William Beeton > who immigrated from England to America in 1864. He died in Utah around > 1934/1935. On his death certificate it states he was born in Nottingham on May 31, > 1843. What I'm wondering is how to obtain a birth certificate that might give his > parents names. His death certificate says his father was a John - but I find > no William's in the 1851 and 1861 Census of this age, that's father's name is > John. There is one William who would fit and his father is listed as Henry? Can > anyone give me some Idea's on what to do and where to go from here. It would > Truly be appreciated. Thank you > > Warmest Regards, > Tammy > Idaho, USA > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe > bemailfooterNO62) > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Hi Tammy, I have a Beeton line in my family tree but have also found the name transcribed as Beaton and as Beighton. There was a John Beighton married to Martha Mason at St. Marys, Nottm. on 21 Sept. 1832. They appear to have had at least 5 children one of which was William on 25 Jan. 1835. They lived at Fletcher Gate and later Mount Street. John was a cow keeper. This is all from Notts FHS CD's Good Hunting, David Atkin Shropshire, England.