Hi again Found Wilfr*i*d :-) Birth and Death Name: Wilfrid Cree Mother's Maiden Surname: Holmes Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1920 Registration district: Nottingham Registration county: Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire Volume Number: 7b Page Number: 1066 Name: Wilfrid Cree Birth Date: 31 Jan 1920 Death Registration Month/Year: Sep 1991 Age at death (estimated): 71 Registration district: Mansfield Inferred County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire Volume: 8 Page: 401 Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Dear Listers, > Can some kind person help me trace the above married couple. All I know is > that they lived somewhere in Nottinghamshire, and that Wilfred died in > 1991 of cancer and his wife Mary died in 1999. G.R.O. References for their > death certificates or their marriage ( possibly about 1948 )would be ever > so much appreciated. > Paul Newbury

Hi Paul Mary looks to be this one Name: Mary Cree Birth Date: 9 Aug 1923 Death Registration Month/Year: May 1999 Age at death (estimated): 75 Registration district: Basford Inferred County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire Register number: E14A District and Subdistrict: 6853 Entry Number: 41 But no sign of a Wilfred CREE or anything resembling that name in England /Wales The database is the later deaths index which is computerised and fully searchable, so he should be there There are two baptisms that look like they may be their children which as they may be living persons I will send off list If you go to the Guild of one name Studies (google GOONs) you will find there is a one namer doing CREE, I would recomend getting in touch with them Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Dear Listers, > Can some kind person help me trace the above married couple. All I know is > that they lived somewhere in Nottinghamshire, and that Wilfred died in > 1991 of cancer and his wife Mary died in 1999. G.R.O. References for their > death certificates or their marriage ( possibly about 1948 )would be ever > so much appreciated. > Paul Newbury

The surname ETCHES has been around Nottingham for years. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roy Stockdill Sent: 19 March 2009 10:22 To: nottsgen@rootsweb.com; J.M.Jupp@exeter.ac.uk Subject: Re: [NTT] EITCHER George From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> > > Hi Everyone, I have been searching for the above for several years > > now. A Mary Ann BALL married a George EITCHER at Emmanuel > Church > > Nottingham in 18 October 1890. I know mary Ann lived for many > > years, but I have been unable to trace either of them after that > > date, though I did find the birth of a child which I believe to be > > theirs. One of the witnesses was a soldier and I think George may > > have been. > > > > As the name sounds vaguely foreign I did wonder if they changed it > > because of the WW1, but this is quite a time after they married. If > > anyone has ideas I'd be most grateful. Many thanks. Joyce > > > Further to my previous message, FreeBMD has the marriage at Basford in > the Sep 1913 qtr of William G ETCHER to Olive HARVEY (7b 473) and the > death, also at Basford, in the June qtr of 1919 of George W ETCHER, > aged 24 (7b 156). > > I would suggest this was almost certainly the same man and the son of > George and Mary EITCHER, since his given age at death fits very neatly > with a birth in 1894. I wonder if his death was as a result of > injuries suffered in WWI?> Not quite nearly so sure now! I also note a George William ETCHES born at Basford RD in the Sep qtr of 1895 (7b 265). Equally, this could possibly be the man who married in 1913 and died in 1919. And in my experience, forenames were very often reversed, so George William could have appeared in one record and William George in another. EITCHER, ETCHER and ETCHES are so close it's difficult to separate them, especially as a handwritten "r" could easily look like an "s" and vice versa. I suggest the OP begins thinking along these lines. And the best of luck! -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "Roy Stockdill" <roy.stockdill@btinternet.com> > > Hi Everyone, I have been searching for the above for several years > > now. A Mary Ann BALL married a George EITCHER at Emmanuel > Church > > Nottingham in 18 October 1890. I know mary Ann lived for many > > years, but I have been unable to trace either of them after that > > date, though I did find the birth of a child which I believe to be > > theirs. One of the witnesses was a soldier and I think George may > > have been. > > > > As the name sounds vaguely foreign I did wonder if they changed it > > because of the WW1, but this is quite a time after they married. If > > anyone has ideas I'd be most grateful. Many thanks. Joyce > > > Further to my previous message, FreeBMD has the marriage at Basford in > the Sep 1913 qtr of William G ETCHER to Olive HARVEY (7b 473) and the > death, also at Basford, in the June qtr of 1919 of George W ETCHER, > aged 24 (7b 156). > > I would suggest this was almost certainly the same man and the son of > George and Mary EITCHER, since his given age at death fits very neatly > with a birth in 1894. I wonder if his death was as a result of > injuries suffered in WWI?> Not quite nearly so sure now! I also note a George William ETCHES born at Basford RD in the Sep qtr of 1895 (7b 265). Equally, this could possibly be the man who married in 1913 and died in 1919. And in my experience, forenames were very often reversed, so George William could have appeared in one record and William George in another. EITCHER, ETCHER and ETCHES are so close it's difficult to separate them, especially as a handwritten "r" could easily look like an "s" and vice versa. I suggest the OP begins thinking along these lines. And the best of luck! -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

> Hi Everyone, I have been searching for the above for several years > now. A Mary Ann BALL married a George EITCHER at Emmanuel Church > Nottingham in 18 October 1890. I know mary Ann lived for many years, > but I have been unable to trace either of them after that date, though > I did find the birth of a child which I believe to be theirs. One of > the witnesses was a soldier and I think George may have been. > > As the name sounds vaguely foreign I did wonder if they changed it > because of the WW1, but this is quite a time after they married. If > anyone has ideas I'd be most grateful. Many thanks. Joyce > Further to my previous message, FreeBMD has the marriage at Basford in the Sep 1913 qtr of William G ETCHER to Olive HARVEY (7b 473) and the death, also at Basford, in the June qtr of 1919 of George W ETCHER, aged 24 (7b 156). I would suggest this was almost certainly the same man and the son of George and Mary EITCHER, since his given age at death fits very neatly with a birth in 1894. I wonder if his death was as a result of injuries suffered in WWI? -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

From: J.M.Jupp@exeter.ac.uk > Hi Everyone, I have been searching for the above for several years > now. A Mary Ann BALL married a George EITCHER at Emmanuel Church > Nottingham in 18 October 1890. I know mary Ann lived for many years, > but I have been unable to trace either of them after that date, though > I did find the birth of a child which I believe to be theirs. One of > the witnesses was a soldier and I think George may have been. > > As the name sounds vaguely foreign I did wonder if they changed it > because of the WW1, but this is quite a time after they married. If > anyone has ideas I'd be most grateful. Many thanks. Joyce > Do you have the marriage certificate which would give the names of both fathers? FreeBMD, as I am sure you will have already discovered, has only two people called EITCHER at all in any forename(s) - the marriage of the George Eitcher you quote and his presumed son, George William Eitcher, born in 1894. This makes me think the surname was not always Eitcher but something else. Surname Atlas (a program that analyses all the data from the 1881 census and produces instant distribution maps of any surname) has no entries at all for the name. Indeed, EITCHER as a surname appears to be virtually non-existent. The IGI offers not a single example in the British Isles, though I haven't checked all other regions. Eitcher sounds vaguely German but there is no instance in Germany or Continental Europe, either. I did, however, find Mary Eitcher, George's wife, in the 1891 census. She was aged 20, married, a lace dresser, born Nottingham 1871, living at 25 Court St, Radford, Nottingham, with her grandmother, Elizabeth HEARD, 64, also a lace dresser. There seems no doubt this is your Mary, since also in the household was a 3-year-old boy called Ernest BALL, who was shown as Elizabeth's gt-grandson. This Mary is the only Eitcher I could find in ANY census! If, as you suggest, George was a soldier, then he could well have been abroad and in 1901 he could have been in South Africa fighting in the Boer War. However, a check at TNA produced no results. It occurs to me the name could perhaps have been FITCHER, since an "E" and an "F" can be easily confused. Or possibly FLITCHER/FLETCHER or some similar name. Do you have any other clues to offer at all? -- Roy Stockdill Professional genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Re Nottingham Directories, I have an address and occupation for an ancestor of mine from 1799, which I'm sure that I got from a directory. Stupidly I didn't record the source on FTM, but I'm fairly certain that I got the info from a directory in Notts Archives. They certainly have a Glovers of 1825 as well (I did record that source). You can also get some info from the apprenticeship records there. They also have a Nottingham Poll book of 1754, from which I've got occupations of some of my ancestors too. I don't know if the above directories cover the county, as at the time, I was only looking for the town entries. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mimi's Email Account Sent: 18 March 2009 21:04 To: nottsgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [NTT] Directories from 1790? Could someone please help with information? Are there Nottinghamshire directories for 1780-1800? Many thanks, Mary Jane Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

October 9th 1897 - November 12th 1929 BOWSKILL Henry BOYER Joseph BOYCE James Bernard, Sarah Frances BOYD Sarah Ann BOYES John BOYFIELD Richard BOYINGTON Richard, Grace BOYLE Isobel Charlotte BRACEY Annie BRADBURY Elijah, Fanny, James, John aged 48 years, John 64 years, John aged 77 years, Thomas Hervey Wood, William aged 81 years, William aged 65 years, William aged 32 years, William aged 48 years, William aged 68 years BRADER Morris BRADFIELD Charles Ernest, Charlotte BRADFORD George aged 15 years, George aged 59 years BRADLEY Ada, Alfred William, Anne, Caroline, Edward best wishes Barbara _________________________________________________________________ All your Twitter and other social updates in one place http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/

Hi listers I have A Samuel Wildsmith whom married in Mansfield 1908 to Florence Radford at least four children were born to the couple in later years. My problem is I cannot link Samuel to his ancestors. I do have a Samuel Wildsmith born Sutton in Ashfield 1882 whom is listed on the 1901 census but I believed he married in march 1911 to either Emma Cook or Emma Kempshall according to FreeBDM. yet there is no children listed under either name in the Nottingham area, I do realise they may have relocated by then. Any assistance appreciated Regards Bob Wilesmith NSW Australia

Could someone please help with information? Are there Nottinghamshire directories for 1780-1800? Many thanks, Mary Jane

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Hi Everyone, I have been searching for the above for several years now. A Mary Ann BALL married a George EITCHER at Emmanuel Church Nottingham in 18 October 1890. I know mary Ann lived for many years, but I have been unable to trace either of them after that date, though I did find the birth of a child which I believe to be theirs. One of the witnesses was a soldier and I think George may have been. As the name sounds vaguely foreign I did wonder if they changed it because of the WW1, but this is quite a time after they married. If anyone has ideas I'd be most grateful. Many thanks. Joyce

1891 census: but there are no Eitcher on the 1911. There are Etcher's but no George or Mary HEARD, Elizabeth Head Widow F 64 1827 Lace Dresser Nottingham VIEW<javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('0b4447d630bb0ea880b396612a145a06399245fa8b07a39bdd89f9e1b4b6dd790ed1e4fb67aded39de19f18afb130e95','fa4f8a25dee10ff7b8155c04ac72c5312ca9dde4ad2d0f01a778baeef68c7536c61fbf2cba41a078','1891 Census <br>HEARD, Elizabeth<br>NOTTINGHAM, Nottinghamshire<br>RG12 piece 2689 folio 12 page 18 ', 'N', 'H','26890000026','8','0',0)> EITCHER, Mary Granddaughter Married F 20 1871 Lace Dresser Nottingham VIEW<javascript:showPhotoDjVuImage('0b4447d630bb0ea880b396612a145a06399245fa8b07a39bdd89f9e1b4b6dd790ed1e4fb67aded39de19f18afb130e95','fa4f8a25dee10ff7b8155c04ac72c5312ca9dde4ad2d0f01a778baeef68c7536c61fbf2cba41a078','1891 Census <br>EITCHER, Mary<br>NOTTINGHAM, Nottinghamshire<br>RG12 piece 2689 folio 12 page 18 ', 'N', 'H','26890000026','9','0',0)> BALL, Ernest Great Grandson M 4 1887 Lenton Nottinghamshire ----- Original Message ----- From: J.M.Jupp@exeter.ac.uk<mailto:J.M.Jupp@exeter.ac.uk> To: nottsgen@rootsweb.com<mailto:nottsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: March 18, 2009 7:56 AM Subject: [NTT] EITCHER George Hi Everyone, I have been searching for the above for several years now. A Mary Ann BALL married a George EITCHER at Emmanuel Church Nottingham in 18 October 1890. I know mary Ann lived for many years, but I have been unable to trace either of them after that date, though I did find the birth of a child which I believe to be theirs. One of the witnesses was a soldier and I think George may have been. As the name sounds vaguely foreign I did wonder if they changed it because of the WW1, but this is quite a time after they married. If anyone has ideas I'd be most grateful. Many thanks. Joyce Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

March 25th 1898 - May 20th 1930 BOWLER Grace, Percival BOWLES Alice, Edwin, Hannah, Martin, Mary, William Henry BOWLEY Absolom Thomas, Ann, Dorothy Irene, Louisa Ann, Robert Isaac, William Arthur BOWLING Bertha Matilda BOWLY Edward BOWMAN Ernest Frederick, Fanny, Gen Joseph, Sarah Ellen, Stanley Arthur BOWMER Fanny, Frances Mary, Harriett Ellen, Isaac, John Cecil BOWN Male Child 1927, Gilbert, William BOWNESS Emily BOWSHER Henry, William BOWSKILL Edward best wishes Barbara _________________________________________________________________ All your Twitter and other social updates in one place http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/

Hi Graham Just google origin of surnames , there are plenty available You can also find books on the subject via www.archive.org Select Texts and use keyword Surnames There are several on the subject, you can either download for free to use at your leisure or read online An example is :- English surnames : their sources and significations (1875) Whatever you find and read do take all with a pinch of salt, I have yet to find one that gives a sensible origin for many names Most fall into patronymic, occupation or location There are also some that just decided to use the name as they worked for someone of that name or a hundred and one other reasons Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) >I wonder if someone could tell me of a free site to find the origins of > surnames please. > > Graham Williams

All I have added the following marriages to my index Beckingham 1837 - 1901 Bilborough 1837 - 1900 Previously indexed the following marriage registers Bawtry 1837 - 1901 Calverton 1837 - 1901 Coddington 1837 - 1901 Farnsfield 1837 - 1901 Gotham 1823 - 1837 Greasley 1894 - 1901 Laneham 1837 - 1900 Orston 1837 - 1901 Papplewick 1837 - 1901 Perlethorpe 1726 - 1837 Perlethorpe 1837 - 1900 Radford 1837 - 1901 Woodborough 1754 - 1837 Woodborough 1837 - 1901 I am prepared to do surname look ups but must emphasise that I will only respond to one surname in one parish per email. Please do not send requests for information from parishes not shown on the list. Regards John MELLORS

I wonder if someone could tell me of a free site to find the origins of surnames please. Graham Williams

Hi Everyone, Further to my previous email offering a photo of the Robin Hoods, I hope it is clear that the name 'Robin Hoods' refers to a regiment, not to the legendary person Robin Hood. Regards John Poxon

The second Elizabeth and also Frederick should read BOWERS not BOWER. sorry! Barbara _________________________________________________________________ View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/

November 9th 1897 - July 5th 1927 BOUGHEN William BOULT Stanley George BOULTBEE John Samuel BOULTBY Ellen, Emma, Ernest, Frederick, George, Hilda Annie, John, Kathleen, William BOULTING Male Child 1910 BOULTON Charles Henry BOURNE Thomas, William Alsop BOWBANKS Richard aged 59 years, Richard aged 27 years BOWDEN Hannah BOWDLER Samuel, William Samuel BOWEN Isaac, William Thomas BOWER Elizabeth, Thistle, Frederick BOWES William Richard BOWLER Female Child 1912, Charles, Christopher, Edward, George Henry best wishes Barbara _________________________________________________________________ Free photo editing software from Windows Live . Try it now! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665240/direct/01/