Having done some work on various names using the GRO index, I have come across a birth that is indexed no less than 5 times. . 1/ Mothers married name (but not father of the child's name) + Mother's maiden name 2/Mother's maiden name ( as she was separated or divorced from ex-husband) + Mother's maiden name 3/Biological father of the child's name hyphenated with mother's married name + Mother's maiden name 4/Biological father of the child's name hyphenated with mother's maiden name + Mother's maiden name 5/(after the couple had married) Couple's surname + Mother's maiden name I hope this helps David in Ilkeston In a message dated 10/04/2009 11:07:54 GMT Standard Time, john.townend@o2.co.uk writes: Sorry, Nivard, I'm not doing very well. There is only one certificate, or to be more precise, two identical copies of the same one. There are two entries in the GRO Indexes, which when used to order certicicates have the same result. So it is not a question of re-registration but of dual recording of the first registration. Both parents had been married before and did not re-marry each other although they lived together thereafter, so presumably neither was divorced from the first spouse. Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington1@sky.com> To: "John" <john.townend@o2.co.uk>; <nottsgen-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [NTT] Registration of illegitimate birth > Hi John > > OK so if I interpret your post correctly this time > > You have two certificates, the first in in the mothers maiden name and the > second in the fathers name? > > If so it would indicate that the child was born and registered before the > couple married, and subsequently they married and had the registration > legitimised retrospectively > > Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > > > > >> Sorry, Nivard, to have misled you. Thank you very much for your interest >> and prompt reaction. Obviously I was wrong to say same page number as the >> surnames are well apart alphabetically. >> >> No, there is only one birth but it is appears twice in the indexes, i.e >> >> First entry >> Surname X, Christian name Y, Mother's maiden name Z, District D, Vol. Nb, >> Page No. ppp. >> >> Second entry >> Surname W, Christian name Y, Mother's maiden name Z, District D, Vol Nb, >> Page No. qqq. >> >> So, only the child's surname and the page no. differ. >> >> Identical certificates have been supplied for each entry. The surname >> for the first entry is the fathers's; that for the second entry is that >> of the mother's husband. She is shown on the certificate as "Jane" W, >> formerly Z (homeduties). >> >> John > > Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I mean " Of Car Colston" Pat Williams --- On Thu, 9/4/09, Aliceclarke8@aol.com <Aliceclarke8@aol.com> wrote: From: Aliceclarke8@aol.com <Aliceclarke8@aol.com> Subject: [NTT] Marriage of John CLARK and Sarah possibly BROUGHTON To: nottsgen@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, 9 April, 2009, 8:01 PM I return to something I have asked about before although not for some while. The couple mentioned were my husband's gt.gt. grandparents. I started looking at them again to see if I could unravel the family legend about John's antecedents. However, I see from my notes that another family member suggested that Sarah was originally BROUGHTON. If so she might well be the Sarah Broughton whose Christening on 26.Sept. 1773 in Hawksworth is an extracted record on the IGI. This would match the births of most of John and Sarah's children in Hawksworth between 1800 and 1814 or later (I have no birth dates for two children). My problem is that I can find no sign of a marriage. Hawksworth is covered by Phillimore, but there is no suitable listing. Nor is there in the version that I have of Notts FHS Marriages. As far as I know the new Marriages disk isn't out yet. Has anyone come across a marriage between John and Sarah, possibly in the years just before 1800 in Hawksworth or a nearby parish? I know people didn't necessarily marry before the first child, or at all, but one has to start somewhere. Best wishes Alice Clarke Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Alice   Just looked again and found this:   John Clark m. Sarah Lacton 18/09/1804 In Of Car Carlton which is very very close to Hawksworth. Might be worth considering. Pat Williams --- On Thu, 9/4/09, Aliceclarke8@aol.com <Aliceclarke8@aol.com> wrote: From: Aliceclarke8@aol.com <Aliceclarke8@aol.com> Subject: [NTT] Marriage of John CLARK and Sarah possibly BROUGHTON To: nottsgen@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, 9 April, 2009, 8:01 PM I return to something I have asked about before although not for some while. The couple mentioned were my husband's gt.gt. grandparents. I started looking at them again to see if I could unravel the family legend about John's antecedents. However, I see from my notes that another family member suggested that Sarah was originally BROUGHTON. If so she might well be the Sarah Broughton whose Christening on 26.Sept. 1773 in Hawksworth is an extracted record on the IGI. This would match the births of most of John and Sarah's children in Hawksworth between 1800 and 1814 or later (I have no birth dates for two children). My problem is that I can find no sign of a marriage. Hawksworth is covered by Phillimore, but there is no suitable listing. Nor is there in the version that I have of Notts FHS Marriages. As far as I know the new Marriages disk isn't out yet. Has anyone come across a marriage between John and Sarah, possibly in the years just before 1800 in Hawksworth or a nearby parish? I know people didn't necessarily marry before the first child, or at all, but one has to start somewhere. Best wishes Alice Clarke Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Alice   I'm afraid we need to know a little bit more   Is your John and Sarah on the 1841 census, who are their children, are the children on the 1841/1851 census and If so where they born? They could have been baptised In Newark, Nottingham or any other local town, but I suspect Newark. Have you got a birth certificate or marriage certificate for any of their off springs? It could help. Kind Regards Pat Williams --- On Thu, 9/4/09, Aliceclarke8@aol.com <Aliceclarke8@aol.com> wrote: From: Aliceclarke8@aol.com <Aliceclarke8@aol.com> Subject: [NTT] Marriage of John CLARK and Sarah possibly BROUGHTON To: nottsgen@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, 9 April, 2009, 8:01 PM I return to something I have asked about before although not for some while. The couple mentioned were my husband's gt.gt. grandparents. I started looking at them again to see if I could unravel the family legend about John's antecedents. However, I see from my notes that another family member suggested that Sarah was originally BROUGHTON. If so she might well be the Sarah Broughton whose Christening on 26.Sept. 1773 in Hawksworth is an extracted record on the IGI. This would match the births of most of John and Sarah's children in Hawksworth between 1800 and 1814 or later (I have no birth dates for two children). My problem is that I can find no sign of a marriage. Hawksworth is covered by Phillimore, but there is no suitable listing. Nor is there in the version that I have of Notts FHS Marriages. As far as I know the new Marriages disk isn't out yet. Has anyone come across a marriage between John and Sarah, possibly in the years just before 1800 in Hawksworth or a nearby parish? I know people didn't necessarily marry before the first child, or at all, but one has to start somewhere. Best wishes Alice Clarke Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barbara, I would like to thank you for all the 'look ups and lists of Births Marriages and Deaths' you have provided for so many years. You were the one who so kindly found and provided me with the entry of my 3xg grand parents, some years ago. I would like to wish you a very Happy Easter. Best wishes, Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "barbara kilby-croft" <barbarakilby-croft@live.co.uk> To: <nottsgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: [NTT] LOOK UPS! Good Morning All!! As many of you will know I have been posting l of burials, baptisms and marriages etc., to this list for a couple of years now. OF course there are many that will have joined nottsgen which have not had access and who find difficulty navigating nottsgen archives. So I have decided to do an occasional post of a database previously listed.

I return to something I have asked about before although not for some while. The couple mentioned were my husband's gt.gt. grandparents. I started looking at them again to see if I could unravel the family legend about John's antecedents. However, I see from my notes that another family member suggested that Sarah was originally BROUGHTON. If so she might well be the Sarah Broughton whose Christening on 26.Sept. 1773 in Hawksworth is an extracted record on the IGI. This would match the births of most of John and Sarah's children in Hawksworth between 1800 and 1814 or later (I have no birth dates for two children). My problem is that I can find no sign of a marriage. Hawksworth is covered by Phillimore, but there is no suitable listing. Nor is there in the version that I have of Notts FHS Marriages. As far as I know the new Marriages disk isn't out yet. Has anyone come across a marriage between John and Sarah, possibly in the years just before 1800 in Hawksworth or a nearby parish? I know people didn't necessarily marry before the first child, or at all, but one has to start somewhere. Best wishes Alice Clarke

Good Morning All!! As many of you will know I have been posting l of burials, baptisms and marriages etc., to this list for a couple of years now. OF course there are many that will have joined nottsgen which have not had access and who find difficulty navigating nottsgen archives. So I have decided to do an occasional post of a database previously listed. Hope you can make sense of that. So for today, if you think you may have someone BAPTISED at ANNESLEY ALL SAINTS PARISH CHURCH 1915 - 1959, then e mail me and I will check the database and, if found, will send you the details. Good luck! Barbara _________________________________________________________________ Beyond Hotmail — see what else you can do with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/

Hi list, further updates from school admissions for Wigley and Chapel en le Frith schools with Notts connections. mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

The Society is pleased to announce the availability of the new versions of the Baptism and Burial Updates CDs from version 2 to version 4, and from version 3 to version 4 are now available just goto http://www.nottsfhs.org.uk/shop/shoppage2.htm Regards, sheila and Jim Nottinghamshire Family History Society 0115 9507362

Hello everyone! Just wanted to let you know that the Spring Lists will commence on May 1st through to May 31st. More details later in the month. Don't forget that you can always access earlier lists and request the details by checking out nottsgen archives. Or you can e mail me direct with your query. Coroner's Courts lists have finished for now but will be back again as part of the spring lists. Starting with requested letter 'M'. All for now, Barbara _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/

FOURTH PANEL CROSS W CLAY J WHITE HH SMITH E BENNETT H SEWARD J DAVIS W COLGRAVE C HOLMES N or H HAWKINS TERRY E KNIGHT JJ WADE WH HICKS JE WOOD A BATTERSBY ELLIS CLARK W PAYNE F LEAFE F MARRIOTT H ARCHER G ROSE AE HUNT T JACKSON A ATTENBOROUGH WILSON W WILLIAMSON F BOYINGTON E CUDWORTH J OLIVER E PAULSON C FOWLER J RICHARDSON J SALSBURY H SEYMOUR H DE CAUX C BROWN CS NIGHTINGALE R PYNE S MOORE H CHALLAND W JUDD F CROSS P CRAVEN T CURTIS F CUSWORTH J HUNT A HANDLEY A HARROP PAPE AH OSBORNE J HUGHES T PALMER S SIMPSON H SPOONER W As always with transcriptions, please confirm details with the original. Good Hunting and thanks again to Rod Smith for posting the pictures. David in Ilkeston

THIRD PANEL REDGATE A ROE E STEVENSON OLD R JOYCE F CUNN B GOODBURN MITCHELL A MASSEY D RAWSON J JOHNSON W SPENCER T ROADLEY J BRIERLEY L BURCHELL A PARKER G HICKS J BRADSHAW C SHAW W HILL W TALKS H COOPER W SMITH JT AULT T FRENCH W WATSON J TAYLOR T HOUSLEY H TAYLOR T BOOT R LITTLE H DALE W CROSS H CAFFREY T GROCOCK A HEMSLEY W HARRISON G JACKSON J CHAPMAN ANTHONY E POWNALL J LANGFORD L ANDREWS H BROUGHTON A LYMM A BARRACLIFF T HOPEWELL T HUSBANDS H HARRISON R GASH RICHARDS PENISTONE WALDRON _ RILEY F STUBBS BRADSHAW _ As always with transcriptions, please confirm details with the original. Good Hunting and thanks again to Rod Smith for posting the pictures. David in Ilkeston

SECOND PANEL MERCER C WRIGHT W SMEDLEY J SHARP A NICHOLSON A TILSON R ASHMORE C HEATHCOTE C PEET W HEMPSTEAD E BALL G CLEWER W HOWARD J EDIS A SHEPHEARD C NEEDHAM J GODBER A MILLER T PERKINS A HOLT T GRIFFITH G JUETT T ALCOCK A SLIM A DITTON T WOOD MOSS R LEVERTON F CHAPMAN A FRUDD M SWIFT F BLASDALE P SMITH H BETTLES J SPENCER F SLATER R BRADFORD H NEVETT C EVERITT G PARKER A CULLEY J GADD J DUFFIN F CANNADINE W TURNER T PRATT A WINGFIELD H TUTIN H OLD A RICHMOND H WHALIN W DICKENSON S COOPER P ROPER T SMITH A BAILEY J As always with transcriptions, please confirm details with the original. Good Hunting and thanks again to Rod Smith for posting the pictures. David in Ilkeston

I have made several attempts to get this in its entirety to the list - each time it fails, so I'm sending it in 4 lots. Full list FIRST PANEL WHITTAKER WOOWARD F CRAIG_N EM HARPER E HARRIS GE PERKINS W BURTON G KIRK J LLOYD H FRANKS T HOPKINS G or C MORLEY N WINDYBANK W REDSHAW W COOK A WILLIAMS JE DALTON F SEMAN A (S ?) LEW J COOPER J (OL ?) IVER G HINES A HOLMES W HOPEWELL R DONNELLY E KIMBERLEY H KIMBERLEY IE GREEN T FRANKS E HINCHCLIFFE A SIMMS A NORTH H GISBY A BARNES J DIXON F COCKRAM W SMITH HW SHARP AH ELLIOTT T HENSTOCK C COUPLAND BUNTING W BROWN S SCOTT J CLEWER J SCOTT H ROWBOTTOM A BATTERSBY E KING A HILL W TOOTEL S_ MESSOM LOWE GO BOOT A TURNER I BRADFORD H As always with transcriptions, please confirm details with the original. Good Hunting and thanks again to Rod Smith for posting the pictures. David in Ilkeston

This one from the IGI might be interesting for you SARAH CUTTS Marriage: 05 MAR 1827 Pinxton, Derby, England Pinxton being the next parish to Kirkby, but over the border. cheers Pete in Mansfield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue" <susan.wilkinson51@ntlworld.com> To: <NOTTSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 11:16 PM Subject: [NTT] Kirkby Marriage help > Please can anyone help with a marriage of a BENJAMIN MOORE abt 1806 > married a SARAH ? 1806 in Kirkby in Ashfield. First child of 7 Thomas born > abt 1829 Kirkby. > Also any information on this couple such has parents. > Regards Sue. > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.285 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release Date: 04/05/09 10:54:00

Please can anyone help with a marriage of a BENJAMIN MOORE abt 1806 married a SARAH ? 1806 in Kirkby in Ashfield. First child of 7 Thomas born abt 1829 Kirkby. Also any information on this couple such has parents. Regards Sue.

Hi, My branch of the READ family (William READ born 1820) was born in Balderton, NOTTINGHAM and then moved to Manchester, LANCASHIRE where he married Sarah BARNETT in 1845 in Eccles. They had five children (one died) before 1855 when William emigrated to Australia. Sarah and children followed in 1857. They had a further four children and eventually settled in the Seville area. Love contact with anyone researching this family. Regards, Pat Wade (Nee King) Melb, Vic

November 8th 1897 - March 28th 1929 BUXTON George, Herbert, John aged 62 years, John aged 86 years, Kenneth, Mary Ann, Violet, William aged 47 years, William aged 8 months BYARD Reginald William BYATT Female Child 1898 BYFORD Patience BYRE Phoebe BYRNES James BYRNS Annie, William B BYRON Frederick BYWATER Frederick end of 'B' best wishes Barbara _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/

There is a monumental wooden wall structure at the above site, in a part of the building that's about to be demolished. The structure was made by the carpenters of Nottingham Corporation Tramways. Negotiations are in place to remove it to a safe place, and perhaps have it displayed in a museum somewhere. It mainly consists of four panels, each with a bank of portraits, eight across and seven down, in total 224 individuals. These are men in uniform who worked for Nottingham Corporation Tramways, and below the portraits are corresponding panels of their names. Two photos are available at http://www.flickr.com/photos/rorysmith/sets/72157616247334945/ Perhaps one of your relatives is portrayed. Rod Smith