Jean DEATH and dumb!! Sorry mistyped deaf and dumb was on the census. I have to say I didn't come by it as a logical deduction. My husband was in the Korean war and he was in charge of the 280 mm atomic cannons the USA had. He was also a Green Beret (Special Forces) and when not on a mission he was in charge of these 135 feet cannons. These were in Korea first and then transported to be stationed in Baumholder Germany. Sad to say my husband was radiated and had adenoma-carcinoma cancer surgery from exposure to Hiroshima -Nagasaki type cancer they removed the complete side of his Left face including half of his nose, upper Pharynx, entire upper jaw, part of each side of his tongue and down into his throat. He lives on Ensure Plus proved by the Military. It is special hospital type to provide all his body needs to live on because he is not able to eat. He had no chance of living through this surgery. Wonderful surgeons no scares. You can see his brain if he removed what is called an Obturator looks like teeth but fills up the large hole in his head so he can talk. He is doing as good as possible. Many men become deaf and some unable to speak because they ignore ear plugs and special safety equipment for ears, eyes and mouth, and the concussion and smoke gasses from firing weapons will cause punctured ear drums and vocal cord destruction as I noted in my reasoning with the black power. My husband used all the safety equipment but some men ignored his instructions and suffered greatly because of it. However he is the sole survivor of 250 men all were radiated and died. The sad price of freedom. Sorry for the other typo mistake and again on follow up sent (worded on census not fail) fair. Guess its been a long day. Loved you input. Thank you. Jo-Ann In a message dated 11/12/2011 5:08:54 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: This is very interesting and I am sure your deduction is very logical. I would very likely arrive at a similar conclusion - poor man, and so young, like those in fighting zones now.

Was he in the Boer War? I have been told this was the war he was in but I don't know. I was also shocked at the way it was worded on census not fail if this is what happen to this man.Sure means something else in the USA. Jo-Ann In a message dated 11/12/2011 5:08:54 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: This is very interesting and I am sure your deduction is very logical. I would very likely arrive at a similar conclusion - poor man, and so young, like those in fighting zones now. Was he in the Boer War? Or maybe in India. He could not have been active much before 1895 and perhaps a bit later. BUT I am much amused to read that his condition was transcribed at least - and maybe on the original too (I have not looked) as DEATH and dumb!! My husband suggests he was having a worse day than usual when the enumerator called. Seriously, it shows the devasating effects of war which at no time, or in any place could be considered anything but horrendous and tragic for all parties. Jean Wood > From: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:53:32 -0500 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NTT] Albert Spencer Sherwood Foresters > > How can I find out about Albert Spencer was he a Fusilier in the British > Army regiment? Maybe causing this condition. He is living with his sister > Rebecca Spencer Rimmington. If I have the right one and it seems to be the > only one that matches. > > Reasoning being Weapons using black powder provided deafening concussion > to ear drums. Also sulphate's and nitrates from smoke inhaled, mixed with > saliva became sulphuric and nitric acid, thus burning vocal cords disabling > ears and voice. > > > 1891 England Census Name: Albert Spencer Age: 21 abt 1870 Burwell, > Nottinghamshire, England > Civil parish St Budeaux Ecclesiastical parish St Budeaux County/Island: > Devon Country: England > Registration district Plympton St Mary Sub-registration district Plympton > ED, institution, or vessel Bull Point Barracks Piece: 1724 Folio: 91 Page > Number: 3 > > 1901 England Census > Name: Albert Spencer Age: 30 abt 1871 Brother-in-Law Male Nottingham, > Nottinghamshire, England > Civil parish Nottingham Ecclesiastical parish: Bulwell St Mary the Virgin > Town: Nottingham County/Island Nottinghamshire Country England > Street Address Hart Street Occupation Death and Dumb > Registration district: Nottingham Sub-registration district: Bulwell > ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Household schedule number: 171 Piece: 3191 > Folio: 36 Page Number: 32 > > Thanks for any help > Jo-Ann Vickers > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =

Hi Mike The units existence was not in question, its been around a long time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherwood_Rangers_Yeomanry I just haven't found a William JENNINGS that served in them Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Bob, its a weird world. No sooner had I sent that reply mentioning the > Sherwood Foresters than I found when looking at the British Newspaper > Archive BETA site > a mention of The Sherwood Yeomanry Cavalry. The article seem to indicate a > member > of my Greatorex family at odds with his unit and sentenced to 21 days hard > labour as a result. > > So their was a unit of that name, this being October 1896 but no doubt > played a > part in WW1. > > Mike Greatorex

Bob, its a weird world. No sooner had I sent that reply mentioning the Sherwood Foresters than I found when looking at the British Newspaper Archive BETA site a mention of The Sherwood Yeomanry Cavalry. The article seem to indicate a member of my Greatorex family at odds with his unit and sentenced to 21 days hard labour as a result. So their was a unit of that name, this being October 1896 but no doubt played a part in WW1. Mike Greatorex Harrogate, England Looking for all Greatorex's from North Nottinghamshire, Sheffield, Orange Co, NY, USA, Florida and Alabamha, USA. http://www.freewebs.com/greatorexfamily/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "rjngs" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [NTT] Ancestry WW1 records > > I tried looking for my grandfather's WW1 records (William Jennings of > Retford, b. 1886). > He served, and survived, in the Sherwood Rangers Yeomanry. > There does not seem to be any records at all from the Sherwood Rangers > Yeomanry. > Does that mean that the whole set have been lost , or that they have > another > name? > > Bob.

Bob, could it have been the Sherwood Foresters??? Mike Greatorex Harrogate, England Looking for all Greatorex's from North Nottinghamshire, Sheffield, Orange Co, NY, USA, Florida and Alabamha, USA. http://www.freewebs.com/greatorexfamily/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "rjngs" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [NTT] Ancestry WW1 records > > I tried looking for my grandfather's WW1 records (William Jennings of > Retford, b. 1886). > He served, and survived, in the Sherwood Rangers Yeomanry. > There does not seem to be any records at all from the Sherwood Rangers > Yeomanry. > Does that mean that the whole set have been lost , or that they have > another > name? > > Bob. > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Bob First thing to say is that the records on Ancestry are not as a rule indexed by Regiment, if you search for Sherwood Rangers Yeomanry in the keyword box with no other name or details you will find some listed but not a great deal Added to that two thirds of service records were lost in WW2, many of the remainder are part damaged If he survived do you have his medals ? Around the rim should be his name, service number and Regiment Checking the medal cards I can't see a JENNINGS who was in the Sherwood Rangers Yeomanry but there are various abbreviations or he may have served in another regiment as well and be recorded under that If you have more let me know Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I tried looking for my grandfather's WW1 records (William Jennings of > Retford, b. 1886). > He served, and survived, in the Sherwood Rangers Yeomanry. > There does not seem to be any records at all from the Sherwood Rangers > Yeomanry. > Does that mean that the whole set have been lost , or that they have another > name? > > Bob.

How can I find out about Albert Spencer was he a Fusilier in the British Army regiment? Maybe causing this condition. He is living with his sister Rebecca Spencer Rimmington. If I have the right one and it seems to be the only one that matches. Reasoning being Weapons using black powder provided deafening concussion to ear drums. Also sulphate's and nitrates from smoke inhaled, mixed with saliva became sulphuric and nitric acid, thus burning vocal cords disabling ears and voice. 1891 England Census Name: Albert Spencer Age: 21 abt 1870 Burwell, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish St Budeaux Ecclesiastical parish St Budeaux County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district Plympton St Mary Sub-registration district Plympton ED, institution, or vessel Bull Point Barracks Piece: 1724 Folio: 91 Page Number: 3 1901 England Census Name: Albert Spencer Age: 30 abt 1871 Brother-in-Law Male Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish Nottingham Ecclesiastical parish: Bulwell St Mary the Virgin Town: Nottingham County/Island Nottinghamshire Country England Street Address Hart Street Occupation Death and Dumb Registration district: Nottingham Sub-registration district: Bulwell ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Household schedule number: 171 Piece: 3191 Folio: 36 Page Number: 32 Thanks for any help Jo-Ann Vickers

I tried looking for my grandfather's WW1 records (William Jennings of Retford, b. 1886). He served, and survived, in the Sherwood Rangers Yeomanry. There does not seem to be any records at all from the Sherwood Rangers Yeomanry. Does that mean that the whole set have been lost , or that they have another name? Bob.

I used to teach at a community college and I had a student who was born in the 1960's, son of some ardent Hippies.  His name was simply "Rainbow"  When he tried to register for classes at the college, the computer system kept rejecting his one-name attempts.  His solution was simple.  He became known to the computer as "A. Rainbow".

In Remembrance of my grandfather Thomas George YOELL and connected family members who gave their lives that we may be free Also all those family members, to numerous to mention here that served their Country Thomas George Yoell Private M2/189877 Army Service Corps Unit : "G" Siege Park attd. VII Corps Heavy Artillery Age: 39 Died 24th November 1918 Son of Edwin and Charlotte Yoell, of "Carolgate," Retford, Notts; husband of Edith Caroline Yoell, of The Bungalow, Horsemoor Green, Langley, Bucks. Estate Agent. Grave Reference VIII. C. 38. Cemetery Busigny Communal Cemetery Extension Lawrence Ovington Serjeant 5714 4th Bn Yorkshire Regiment Age: 25 Died 16th November 1916 Son of Ralph Stephenson Ovington and Mary Ann Ovington, of 42, Tavistock St. Middlesbrough. Grave Reference Sp. Mem. C. 22. Cemetery Bazentin-Le-Petit Communal Cemetery Extension Richard John Seymour Gunner 125265 "D" Bty. 157th Bde. Royal Field Artillery Age: 19 Died 28th January 1917 Son of John and Julia Seymour, of Ash Cottage, Langley, Slough, Bucks. Grave Reference II. C. 23. Cemetery Faubourg D'Amiens Cemetery Arras Also his cousin V.A.D. nurse Florence Margaret SEYMOUR died September 1914 Malcolm Graeme Maccoll Nationality: Australian Private 5927 18th Bn Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Age: 46 Died 3rd May 1917 Son of the Rev. Malcolm MacColl and Maria Cecilia MacColl, of "Hillview," Harvey St., Yoker, North Glasgow Scotland. Born at Camberwell, London England. Grave Reference III. K. 6. Cemetery Arras Road Cemetery, Roclincourt ----------------------------- De Ruvigny's Roll of Honour 1914-1918 Malcolm Graeme MACCOLL 2nd Lieut 18th Battn. Australian Imperial Force, 2nd s of the late Rev Malcolm Maccoll, Rector of St Columba Yoker, by his wife, Maria C. (2 Harvey Street, Yoker), dau. of George Anderson, of Demerara; b. Camberwell, London, S.E., 3 April 1871; educ. Merchant Taylors School, and Victoria College Jersey; served in the South African War 1899 - 1902 in the Queensland 3rd Contingent; took part in the relief of Mafeking, and later transferred to the Cape Mounted Police. On the outbreak of war he obtained a commission in the Natal Light Horse, and served through the German South West Africa Campaign; afterwards joined the Expeditionary Force in France and Flanders, and was killed in action at Bullecourt 3 May, 1917; unm. Archie Hurst Private 72087 1st/5th Bn. Devonshire Regiment Age: 18 Died 30th September 1918 Son of Arthur and Amy Hurst of 65, Rue de L'eglise, A'Fromelennes, pras Givet, Ardennes, France. Native of Leicester. Grave Reference II. A. 14. Cemetery Masnieres British Cemetery, Marcoing Charles William Bull Serjeant 15205 8th Bn North Staffordshire Regiment Died 18th January 1916 Grave Reference II. M. 6. Cemetery St Vaast Post Military Cemetery, Richebourg-L'Avoue Graham Powell Private 14919 9th Bn Leicestershire Regiment Died 25th September 1916 Grave Reference Pier and Face 2 C and 3 A. Memorial Theipval Memorial Heathcote Wyndham Nationality: Australian Lieutenant 38th Bn Australian Infantry, A.I.F. Age: 44 Died 17th July 1917 Son of Hugh and Celia Wyndham; husband of G. Wyndham, of Westholm, Inverell, New South Wales. Grave II. C. 27. Cemetery Kandahar Farm Cemetery Charles Wesley Proud Lyth Serjeant 42535 76th Company Machine Gun Corps Age: 30 Died 5th May 1917 Husband of Carrie Lyth, of 73, Falsgrave Rd., Scarborough. Grave Reference: Bay 10. Memorial Arras Memorial Lawrence Edward F Siddons Private 9582 1st Bn The King's (Liverpool Regiment) Age: 23 Died 19th May 1915 Son of Nelson Fearn Siddons and Ellen Jane Siddons, of 225, Stockbrook St., Derby; husband of Adelaide Ann Stacey (formerly Siddons). Grave Reference Panels 6 to 8. Memorial Le Touret Memorial John Barr Anderson Driver 119421 Royal Army Service Corps Age: 23 Died 17th November 1942 Son of George Ernest Anderson, and of Janet Anderson Anderson, of St. Mawes, Cornwall. Of British Guiana. Grave Reference 1. D. 6. Cemetery Knightsbridge War Cemetery, Acroma Felix Bernard Grigioni Sergeant 1119682 (Flt. Engr.) 97 Sqdn Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve Age: 36 Died 2nd January 1944 Husband of Laura Grey, of Wallasey, Cheshire. Grave Reference 6. A. 20. Cemetery Rheinberg War Cemetery In Flanders Fields In Flanders fields the poppies blow Between the crosses, row on row, That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, fly Scarce heard amid the guns below. We are the Dead. Short days ago We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved, and were loved, and now we lie In Flanders fields. Take up our quarrel with the foe: To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flanders fields. (Major John McCrae - 3rd May 1915) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Yes it does - like in Alma mater, but it was rare and became popular after 1854 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alma_(given_name) http://babynamesworld.parentsconnect.com/meaning_of_Alma.html Jean Wood > To: [email protected] > From: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:08:22 -0500 > Subject: Re: [NTT] Second Christian names > > > > Does the name Alma pre-date the Battle of Alma? > > > I have an Alma Hannah TAYLOR born 1863 in Portsmouth, later of Radford and Nottingham. She was the daughter of a Crimean War veteran William TAYLOR. The Battle of Alma was in September 1854. > There is of course the River Alma which gave the battle its name. > > > David in Ilkeston > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---Original Message----- > > From: Jean Wood <[email protected]> > To: bnbinns <[email protected]>; nottsgen-l <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:18 > Subject: Re: [NTT] Second Christian names > > > > Don't forget names following after other big events, like Alma, after the 1854 > battle, and Royal events. > > My g grandfather was born shortly after the death of Prince Albert. All his > other sblings had single, traditional family names, parents and aunts and uncles > the same classic confusion of common names. He was given Charles Albert. I have > no idea why they picked Charles! > > Jean Wood > > > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:14:32 +0000 > > Subject: [NTT] Second Christian names > > > > I was researching my wife's ancestors in Sutton in Ashfield parish records > > when I found a son who I had previously been unaware of, having been born > > and died between censuses. > > > > > > > > His name was Harry Ewart Sansom JONES born 23 May 1898. I knew of the name > > Sansom as it was his mother's maiden name, but the name Ewart initially > > stumped me, as I was unaware of any relations with this name, nor any > > previous female surname. I then thought of other Ewarts and remembered that > > it was William Gladstone's middle name, and after Googling him, I found that > > he had died on 19th May 1898 . Query solved, they had obviously named him > > after one of Britain's most famous Prime Ministers. > > > > > > > > However, just being curious, I put in the Christian name Ewart in the > > "Ancestry" Births search and found that in the April-June quarter 1898 a > > staggering 649 boys were given the Christian name of Ewart, mainly as a > > second or third one, but not always. Considering these births would probably > > have occurred in the last 5 weeks of that quarter, that is some total. The > > name Ewart of course occurs in other quarters, but not with those numbers. > > Mind you, this should surprise me. Have you seen how many people were called > > Horatio Nelson XYZ? > > > > > > > > Interestingly my Great Grandmother was called Mary Inkerman LEE, after the > > eponymous battle of The Crimean War. I don't suppose we had many named John > > Falklands Smith in 1982! How times change. > > > > > > > > Brian Binns > > > > _____ > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4606 - Release Date: 11/09/11 > > > > > > > > Notts Surname List > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't forget names following after other big events, like Alma, after the 1854 battle, and Royal events. My g grandfather was born shortly after the death of Prince Albert. All his other sblings had single, traditional family names, parents and aunts and uncles the same classic confusion of common names. He was given Charles Albert. I have no idea why they picked Charles! Jean Wood > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:14:32 +0000 > Subject: [NTT] Second Christian names > > I was researching my wife's ancestors in Sutton in Ashfield parish records > when I found a son who I had previously been unaware of, having been born > and died between censuses. > > > > His name was Harry Ewart Sansom JONES born 23 May 1898. I knew of the name > Sansom as it was his mother's maiden name, but the name Ewart initially > stumped me, as I was unaware of any relations with this name, nor any > previous female surname. I then thought of other Ewarts and remembered that > it was William Gladstone's middle name, and after Googling him, I found that > he had died on 19th May 1898 . Query solved, they had obviously named him > after one of Britain's most famous Prime Ministers. > > > > However, just being curious, I put in the Christian name Ewart in the > "Ancestry" Births search and found that in the April-June quarter 1898 a > staggering 649 boys were given the Christian name of Ewart, mainly as a > second or third one, but not always. Considering these births would probably > have occurred in the last 5 weeks of that quarter, that is some total. The > name Ewart of course occurs in other quarters, but not with those numbers. > Mind you, this should surprise me. Have you seen how many people were called > Horatio Nelson XYZ? > > > > Interestingly my Great Grandmother was called Mary Inkerman LEE, after the > eponymous battle of The Crimean War. I don't suppose we had many named John > Falklands Smith in 1982! How times change. > > > > Brian Binns > > _____ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4606 - Release Date: 11/09/11 > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does the name Alma pre-date the Battle of Alma? I have an Alma Hannah TAYLOR born 1863 in Portsmouth, later of Radford and Nottingham. She was the daughter of a Crimean War veteran William TAYLOR. The Battle of Alma was in September 1854. There is of course the River Alma which gave the battle its name. David in Ilkeston ---Original Message----- From: Jean Wood <[email protected]> To: bnbinns <[email protected]>; nottsgen-l <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:18 Subject: Re: [NTT] Second Christian names Don't forget names following after other big events, like Alma, after the 1854 battle, and Royal events. My g grandfather was born shortly after the death of Prince Albert. All his other sblings had single, traditional family names, parents and aunts and uncles the same classic confusion of common names. He was given Charles Albert. I have no idea why they picked Charles! Jean Wood > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:14:32 +0000 > Subject: [NTT] Second Christian names > > I was researching my wife's ancestors in Sutton in Ashfield parish records > when I found a son who I had previously been unaware of, having been born > and died between censuses. > > > > His name was Harry Ewart Sansom JONES born 23 May 1898. I knew of the name > Sansom as it was his mother's maiden name, but the name Ewart initially > stumped me, as I was unaware of any relations with this name, nor any > previous female surname. I then thought of other Ewarts and remembered that > it was William Gladstone's middle name, and after Googling him, I found that > he had died on 19th May 1898 . Query solved, they had obviously named him > after one of Britain's most famous Prime Ministers. > > > > However, just being curious, I put in the Christian name Ewart in the > "Ancestry" Births search and found that in the April-June quarter 1898 a > staggering 649 boys were given the Christian name of Ewart, mainly as a > second or third one, but not always. Considering these births would probably > have occurred in the last 5 weeks of that quarter, that is some total. The > name Ewart of course occurs in other quarters, but not with those numbers. > Mind you, this should surprise me. Have you seen how many people were called > Horatio Nelson XYZ? > > > > Interestingly my Great Grandmother was called Mary Inkerman LEE, after the > eponymous battle of The Crimean War. I don't suppose we had many named John > Falklands Smith in 1982! How times change. > > > > Brian Binns > > _____ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4606 - Release Date: 11/09/11 > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Coincidentally, I was looking at the baptism of Dorothy Ladysmith Chapman Micklethwaite in March 1900 in Bradford. Andy. At 12:21 10/11/2011, Peter Gainsborough wrote: > In the same vein, a member of my family was named Eleanor >Gladys Ladysmith Mellows. She was born in January, 1900 and died in >September, 1900.

Hello All, In the same vein, a member of my family was named Eleanor Gladys Ladysmith Mellows. She was born in January, 1900 and died in September, 1900. Peter

On 10 Nov 2011 at 8:14, Brian Binns wrote: > I was researching my wife's ancestors in Sutton in Ashfield parish > records when I found a son who I had previously been unaware of, > having been born and died between censuses. > > His name was Harry Ewart Sansom JONES born 23 May 1898. I knew of the > name Sansom as it was his mother's maiden name, but the name Ewart > initially stumped me, as I was unaware of any relations with this > name, nor any previous female surname. I then thought of other Ewarts > and remembered that it was William Gladstone's middle name, and after > Googling him, I found that he had died on 19th May 1898 . Query > solved, they had obviously named him after one of Britain's most > famous Prime Ministers. > > However, just being curious, I put in the Christian name Ewart in the > "Ancestry" Births search and found that in the April-June quarter 1898 > a staggering 649 boys were given the Christian name of Ewart, mainly > as a second or third one, but not always. Considering these births > would probably have occurred in the last 5 weeks of that quarter, that > is some total. The name Ewart of course occurs in other quarters, but > not with those numbers. Mind you, this should surprise me. Have you > seen how many people were called Horatio Nelson XYZ? > > Interestingly my Great Grandmother was called Mary Inkerman LEE, after > the eponymous battle of The Crimean War. I don't suppose we had many > named John Falklands Smith in 1982! How times change.> When I was writing my regular bi-monthly column for the former Practical Family History magazine (which closed last December) called "Roy's Ramblings", I frequently wrote about children - especially in Victorian times - who had been given weird and bizarre names. Horatio Nelsons were very common and, to my astonishment, so were Napoleons and Napoleon Buenopartes!!! Many children were named by Victorians after Crimean War battles and also battles of the Boer War. Try entering "Balaclava" as a first name for births at FreeBMD or enter "+Balaclava" - the plus symbol gives you records where it was a middle name. I particularly like ALMA BALACLAVA WRAIGHT, born at Faversham RD, Kent in 1856 and married at Milton, Kent, in 1885 - she was named after TWO Crimean War battles! I would also recommend anyone sufficiently interested to look at FreeBMD and see how many children were given VERDUN either as a first or middle name from 1916 as a tribute to the French soldiers who died in that terrible conflict. One of them was a gentleman called VERDUN JENKINS, the elder brother of the late actor Richard Burton (real name Jenkins) whom I met once when I was still a working journalist and a very nice chap he was, too. I often used to wonder what sort of ragging and banter some of these poor little so-and-sos suffered at school over their names! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Slightly off topic, but I only have the one Christian name.......I've lost count over the years when official forms have been returned to me when I haven't put two names down hence leaving a blank box on the forms or even completing forms online and I wonder if this has happened to other people to? I was adamant that my two girls had two Christian names because of this........! Lin In a message dated 10/11/2011 11:34:44 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: On 10 Nov 2011 at 8:14, Brian Binns wrote: > I was researching my wife's ancestors in Sutton in Ashfield parish > records when I found a son who I had previously been unaware of, > having been born and died between censuses. > > His name was Harry Ewart Sansom JONES born 23 May 1898. I knew of the > name Sansom as it was his mother's maiden name, but the name Ewart > initially stumped me, as I was unaware of any relations with this > name, nor any previous female surname. I then thought of other Ewarts > and remembered that it was William Gladstone's middle name, and after > Googling him, I found that he had died on 19th May 1898 . Query > solved, they had obviously named him after one of Britain's most > famous Prime Ministers. > > However, just being curious, I put in the Christian name Ewart in the > "Ancestry" Births search and found that in the April-June quarter 1898 > a staggering 649 boys were given the Christian name of Ewart, mainly > as a second or third one, but not always. Considering these births > would probably have occurred in the last 5 weeks of that quarter, that > is some total. The name Ewart of course occurs in other quarters, but > not with those numbers. Mind you, this should surprise me. Have you > seen how many people were called Horatio Nelson XYZ? > > Interestingly my Great Grandmother was called Mary Inkerman LEE, after > the eponymous battle of The Crimean War. I don't suppose we had many > named John Falklands Smith in 1982! How times change.> When I was writing my regular bi-monthly column for the former Practical Family History magazine (which closed last December) called "Roy's Ramblings", I frequently wrote about children - especially in Victorian times - who had been given weird and bizarre names. Horatio Nelsons were very common and, to my astonishment, so were Napoleons and Napoleon Buenopartes!!! Many children were named by Victorians after Crimean War battles and also battles of the Boer War. Try entering "Balaclava" as a first name for births at FreeBMD or enter "+Balaclava" - the plus symbol gives you records where it was a middle name. I particularly like ALMA BALACLAVA WRAIGHT, born at Faversham RD, Kent in 1856 and married at Milton, Kent, in 1885 - she was named after TWO Crimean War battles! I would also recommend anyone sufficiently interested to look at FreeBMD and see how many children were given VERDUN either as a first or middle name from 1916 as a tribute to the French soldiers who died in that terrible conflict. One of them was a gentleman called VERDUN JENKINS, the elder brother of the late actor Richard Burton (real name Jenkins) whom I met once when I was still a working journalist and a very nice chap he was, too. I often used to wonder what sort of ragging and banter some of these poor little so-and-sos suffered at school over their names! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was researching my wife's ancestors in Sutton in Ashfield parish records when I found a son who I had previously been unaware of, having been born and died between censuses. His name was Harry Ewart Sansom JONES born 23 May 1898. I knew of the name Sansom as it was his mother's maiden name, but the name Ewart initially stumped me, as I was unaware of any relations with this name, nor any previous female surname. I then thought of other Ewarts and remembered that it was William Gladstone's middle name, and after Googling him, I found that he had died on 19th May 1898 . Query solved, they had obviously named him after one of Britain's most famous Prime Ministers. However, just being curious, I put in the Christian name Ewart in the "Ancestry" Births search and found that in the April-June quarter 1898 a staggering 649 boys were given the Christian name of Ewart, mainly as a second or third one, but not always. Considering these births would probably have occurred in the last 5 weeks of that quarter, that is some total. The name Ewart of course occurs in other quarters, but not with those numbers. Mind you, this should surprise me. Have you seen how many people were called Horatio Nelson XYZ? Interestingly my Great Grandmother was called Mary Inkerman LEE, after the eponymous battle of The Crimean War. I don't suppose we had many named John Falklands Smith in 1982! How times change. Brian Binns _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4606 - Release Date: 11/09/11

Many thanks to Liz for her information on the churches and churchyards of Nottingham. It seems that I may never find where Isabella was buried but thanks anyway Best Wishes Margaret

Hi List We had a few BEASTALL's die in Nottinghamshire. Matthew BEASTALLdied in 1854 at Selston, Notts, Francis BEASTALL died in Plumtree in 1784 and Mary BEASTALL, his wife died in 1774 in Plumtree, Notts. There would be others as well. Does anyone know where they maybe buried, any info would be most helpful. I am coming over to the UK next year and would like to have a look at some for them Sue Woodcock Brisbane, Australia