Released today 1911 now searchable Channel Islands Cheshire Cornwall Cumberland Derbyshire Devon Durham Isle of Man Lancashire Leicestershire Lincolnshire London Norfolk Northumberland Nottinghamshire Royal Navy Rutland Wales Warwickshire Westmorland Worcestershire Yorkshire-East Riding Yorkshire-North Riding Yorkshire-West Riding Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

I read awhile back some census were written by the household. Can someone tell me if the 1911 census was? It seems to have more details about area where they were born and a lot more. Thank you Jo-Ann Vickers In a message dated 12/8/2011 11:13:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Released today 1911 now searchable Channel Islands Cheshire Cornwall Cumberland Derbyshire Devon Durham Isle of Man Lancashire Leicestershire Lincolnshire London Norfolk Northumberland Nottinghamshire Royal Navy Rutland Wales Warwickshire Westmorland Worcestershire Yorkshire-East Riding Yorkshire-North Riding Yorkshire-West Riding Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Bill At 15:03 08/12/2011, Bill Seary wrote: >Non-conformist registers for the period up to 1837 should be in the >National Archives in RG4. Those records are available online through >http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/. Doh! Of course! >However, a quick look at the NA catalogue does not show a Selston >Baptist Church. There is, in case it is of interest, a Selston >Presbyterian Church at RG4/1591. On http://uk-genealogy.org.uk/england/Nottinghamshire/towns/Selston.html it says >There are Baptist, Congregational, Free Church, and Primitive Methodist chapels. >Transcribed from The Comprehensive Gazetteer of England and Wales, 1894-5 I wonder which became which! I'll see if I can find an email for a chapel there and ask them. >The Baptist church that my lot went to recorded births in their >register, so I don't think that should make you particularly >suspicious. What makes me suspicious is that the date of baptism wasn't recorded. But I suppose if the member submitting it was wanting the re-baptise into the LDS they may have considered it irrelevant. >Hope this helps, Indeed it does. Thanks again. Andy.

There was a wonderful set of books published by The Nottingham Historical Film Unit in the 1970's entitled "Victorian Nottingham." I have been collecting these for a while, and now find that I have 2 copies of edition number 16. I was wondering if anyone out there had a copy of edition number 5 and would like to do a swap? Brian Binns _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4666 - Release Date: 12/07/11

At 12:49 08/12/2011, Ruth Burkholder wrote: >As I recall, Baptists did not baptize infant children; they waited until the >'age of accountability' when a person could make up their own mind if they >wanted baptism, and so request it ... what is known as "adult baptism". Thanks Ruth. I had indeed forgotten that. I should have remembered (maybe it's my age!) as I visited a baptist church in Beeston a few years ago and saw the arrangements. >Andy, I know nothing about the Selston Baptists, just that if they followed >the church precepts, there should not be a record of a baptism in 1812 of >someone born in 1811. Interestingly the member submission (of which I am generally sceptical) doesn't give a baptism date, just a birth date - which increases my scepticism! >Does the church still exist ... would it have records? It still appears to exist - I was hoping someone would know where the records were. I will keep searching. Thanks for your interest. Best Wishes, Andy.

Thanks to Alice for pointing out that a baptism at a Baptist church would be an adult baptism. Thanks to Mavis for suggesting I contact Notts Archives. I did and had a rapid and helpful reply saying they didn't have any such records for Selston Baptist, but did have some for Selston Independent which were also on FamilySearch. Andy.

Good morning, Andy. As I recall, Baptists did not baptize infant children; they waited until the 'age of accountability' when a person could make up their own mind if they wanted baptism, and so request it ... what is known as "adult baptism". Andy, I know nothing about the Selston Baptists, just that if they followed the church precepts, there should not be a record of a baptism in 1812 of someone born in 1811. Does the church still exist ... would it have records? Ruth Burkholder, Ontario, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 11:30:08 +0000 From: Andy Micklethwaite <[email protected]> Subject: [NTT] Selston Baptist Church Records - George CLARK(E) To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" George CLARKE was born in Selston in 1811 or thereabouts - I have him on all the censuses, and his marriage to Charlotte SMITH in Pentrich in 1830, and I have a lot of info on his descendants. What I don't have is a baptism for him. On the old IGI there is a member submission for a very suitable one at Selston Baptists in 1812. Does anyone know where Selston Baptists baptisms can be checked? If the submission is correct, I then have to consider whether that one is mine - anyone have any thoughts as to how I might confirm it? There are no parents with George and family on the censuses, nor any useful neighbours. Andy. ------------------------------ End of NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 211 ****************************************

George CLARKE was born in Selston in 1811 or thereabouts - I have him on all the censuses, and his marriage to Charlotte SMITH in Pentrich in 1830, and I have a lot of info on his descendants. What I don't have is a baptism for him. On the old IGI there is a member submission for a very suitable one at Selston Baptists in 1812. Does anyone know where Selston Baptists baptisms can be checked? If the submission is correct, I then have to consider whether that one is mine - anyone have any thoughts as to how I might confirm it? There are no parents with George and family on the censuses, nor any useful neighbours. Andy.

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Can't find any pictures but its worth reading the British Newspapers Archives (just released) as there seems plenty of action around there ! Whether the premises were used for holding inquests I am not sure as I haven't paid for access to the full articles but just read the snippets .    http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results?basicsearch=horse%20and%20trumpet%20and%20beck%20not%20organ&freesearch=horse%20trumpet%20beck&notsearch=organ&contenttype=article&county=nottinghamshire%2c%20england&frontpage=false&sortorder=dayearly From: Christine <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 2:20 PM Subject: [NTT] HORSE and TRUMPET INN Hi Everyone looking for a picture to add to my tree of the Horse and Trumpet Inn at 49 Beck Street my ancestors had the place in the 1881 census... Thanks Again,, Christine Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a recently discovered branch of my SNOOK tree in Bulwell and then Bestwood Village. Does any one relate to Frank Albert SNOOK and Albert Bramwell SNOOK? Please contact me. Philip Snook [email protected]

Does anybody relate to Albert Bramwell SNOOK? I'd be pleased if they contacted me. Philip Snook [email protected]

Yes thanks David, I forgot to mention this - and I have a card too. However for Nottingham, it is only the Notts Guardian, whilst the British Newspapers site has the Evening Post as well. Brian -----Original Message----- From: beeston-notts [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 29 November 2011 10:58 To: Brian Binns; [email protected] Subject: RE: [NTT] Newspapers on line And of course, if you have a Notts library ticket, you can access and search the Nottinghamshire Guardian and other newspapers elsewhere via the Notts Library website. Thanks to Trish Symonds, you can see extracted Beeston references from the Guardian (see my Miscellany page) David Hallam [email protected] www.beeston-notts.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Brian Binns > Sent: 29 November 2011 10:41 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NTT] Newspapers on line > > > The British Newspapers Archive went live this morning. They have digitised > newspapers from across the country, including all the major local ones. > > > > Their website is > > > > <http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk> > http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk > > > > I have tried it this morning and needless to say have found some > interesting > articles (well the headlines at least) but it does suffer the symptoms of > digitising poor quality paper and print, in that there is a lot of > gobbledygook appearing in the translation from the actual printed word > > > > It is free to register and access the database, but there is a > subscription > cost for getting a copy of the actual report. However, there are many > libraries with newspapers on film, such as The Local Studies section at > Nottingham Central Library, and I for one will be using it to identify > articles and more importantly the issue date. I will then go to > the Central > Library to look it up and take a copy, avoiding having to trawl through > days, months, and indeed years of pages. > > > > Brian Binns > > _____ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4645 - Release Date: 11/28/11 > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4645 - Release Date: 11/28/11 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4645 - Release Date: 11/28/11 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4645 - Release Date: 11/28/11

And of course, if you have a Notts library ticket, you can access and search the Nottinghamshire Guardian and other newspapers elsewhere via the Notts Library website. Thanks to Trish Symonds, you can see extracted Beeston references from the Guardian (see my Miscellany page) David Hallam [email protected] www.beeston-notts.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Brian Binns > Sent: 29 November 2011 10:41 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NTT] Newspapers on line > > > The British Newspapers Archive went live this morning. They have digitised > newspapers from across the country, including all the major local ones. > > > > Their website is > > > > <http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk> > http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk > > > > I have tried it this morning and needless to say have found some > interesting > articles (well the headlines at least) but it does suffer the symptoms of > digitising poor quality paper and print, in that there is a lot of > gobbledygook appearing in the translation from the actual printed word > > > > It is free to register and access the database, but there is a > subscription > cost for getting a copy of the actual report. However, there are many > libraries with newspapers on film, such as The Local Studies section at > Nottingham Central Library, and I for one will be using it to identify > articles and more importantly the issue date. I will then go to > the Central > Library to look it up and take a copy, avoiding having to trawl through > days, months, and indeed years of pages. > > > > Brian Binns > > _____ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4645 - Release Date: 11/28/11 > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The British Newspapers Archive went live this morning. They have digitised newspapers from across the country, including all the major local ones. Their website is <http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk> http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk I have tried it this morning and needless to say have found some interesting articles (well the headlines at least) but it does suffer the symptoms of digitising poor quality paper and print, in that there is a lot of gobbledygook appearing in the translation from the actual printed word It is free to register and access the database, but there is a subscription cost for getting a copy of the actual report. However, there are many libraries with newspapers on film, such as The Local Studies section at Nottingham Central Library, and I for one will be using it to identify articles and more importantly the issue date. I will then go to the Central Library to look it up and take a copy, avoiding having to trawl through days, months, and indeed years of pages. Brian Binns _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4645 - Release Date: 11/28/11

I think I sent this to the wrong address. Sorry if I double up. Kate. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kate To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 9:01 AM Subject: Clarence Brinkworth I believe this is Clarence William S. Brinkworth, born December quarter 1888 in Nottingham, the son of Alice Mary Smart and William Henry Brinkworth. Apart from the 1891 census and FreeBMD birth and marriage registrations this is all the detail I have. The age is wrong but he wouldn't be the first young man to put his age up to join the services. BRINKWORTH, CLARENCE WILLIAM Initials: C W Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Petty Officer Regiment/Service: Royal Navy Unit Text: H.M. Brig. I Age: 33 Date of Death: 14/12/1917 Service No: 230785 Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. Brinkworth, late of Nottingham; husband of E. A. Brinkworth, of 2, Speechley St., Hyson Green, Nottingham. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: 24. Memorial: PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL If anyone has a connection with Clarence, or can provide any further information, could they please let me know. Thanks, Kate.

I believe this is Clarence William S. Brinkworth, born December quarter 1888 in Nottingham, the son of Alice Mary Smart and William Henry Brinkworth. Apart from the 1891 census and FreeBMD birth and marriage registrations this is all the detail I have. The age is wrong but he wouldn't be the first young man to put his age up to join the services. BRINKWORTH, CLARENCE WILLIAM Initials: C W Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Petty Officer Regiment/Service: Royal Navy Unit Text: H.M. Brig. I Age: 33 Date of Death: 14/12/1917 Service No: 230785 Additional information: Son of Mr. and Mrs. Brinkworth, late of Nottingham; husband of E. A. Brinkworth, of 2, Speechley St., Hyson Green, Nottingham. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: 24. Memorial: PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL If anyone has a connection with Clarence, or can provide any further information, could they please let me know. Thanks, Kate.

Jack, Sorry. I didn't look closely enough. I see they were WWII. So my comments about 1911 census are largely irrelevant. However, the other suggestions seem valid. I believe they were born outside Nottinghamshire. One would imagine that to serve in WWII most would have to be born 1900-1930. You can search FreeBMD for Hallett events in Nottinghamshire using B* and C* for given names. The solitary male B* is Bertie born 1925 mother's maiden name Turner. He'd only be 14 at the start of the war, but could have enlisted later. For C* there's a Claude 1909 and a Clifford 1915 who married Elizabeth Icke in 1939 and have a son Clifford in 1941. But his mother's maiden name was Waterson. Of course, I'm assuming they were brothers and were related. They could be cousins or just have the same surname. If they died, Commonwealth War Graves has only a couple of possibilities for each initial. It would be unusual for both to be killed, but you could click on each of the names and see if there were common parents or other possible clues. Otherwise, try redoing the search on FreeBMD looking in all counties and see if you can spot a common birthplace or mother's maiden name. Peter

Jack, I've done a lot of similar research for local War Memorials in Sydney. You often find that relatives have had names put on memorials even though there was no direct association with the area. We found a Canadian listed on a local memorial in Lancashire perhaps by his grandparents. That turned out to be a long lost branch of our family that we had no idea where they'd gone. Without given names it might be difficult. Perhaps check Commonwealth War Grave to see if either died. Then try Medal Cards to see if you can get given names. I'd then look for them in 1911 census with family but don't restrict your search to Palterton. That might give an idea of a relative who could have put their names on the memorial. Peter

Hi Friends I am researching the Palterton village war memorial where names of persons with the village connections who were killed in the 2 World wars appear. I have identified with corroborating evidence all the persons named thereon. with the exception of two names. These names are B. Hallett and C. Hallett. I subscribe to FMP so have access to the CWWG, likewise to the TNA. I have checked the 1901 and 1911 censii for the village and surrounding villages. In the distant past, I have trawled the Derbyshire Times newspaper for many years including 1914 to 1918, seeking any snippets relating to Palterton. All the above checks appear to be negative, incl. avenues via FMP. The name HALLETT do not appear at that period to be Palterton, but people were coming in and out of the village due to work at nearby Glapwell Colliery. All suggestions welcome and replies will be forthcoming.. Some of our research can be found at: www.richardsbygonetimes.co.uk Kindest regards