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    1. Re: [NTT] Militia
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Sheila It would be the Napoleonic Wars http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_Wars However as he is in the Militia and appears to have served in the same unit throughout reaching the rank of Sergeant Major he would not have fought abroad but entirely at home The only reason he served that long was due to his rank Have you also found a John GODBER in the 5th Dragoon Guards, also born Cossal Brothers perhaps? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >I have the discharge papers for one of my ancestors, James Godber, who was > in the Royal Nottinghamshire Militia. He was apparently enlisted in 1798 > at the age of 18 for the space of 5 years and during the war. He actually > had served over 35 years by the time he was discharged in 1835. > > Could anybody tell me which war this would be? > > Thanks > > -- > Sheila

    01/08/2012 10:09:29
    1. Re: [NTT] Militia
    2. From: Sheila Khan <[email protected]> > I have the discharge papers for one of my ancestors, James Godber, > who was in the Royal Nottinghamshire Militia. He was apparently enlisted in > 1798 at the age of 18 for the space of 5 years and during the war. He > actually had served over 35 years by the time he was discharged in 1835. > > Could anybody tell me which war this would be? > > Thanks > The Napoleonic Wars against France, obviously. Many thousands of men enlisted in their local militia in the late 1790s when Britain was threatened with invasion by Napoleon's forces and some went on to join the regular army. A great-great-great-grandfather of mine, John Midgley from Bradford, joined the 53rd Regiment of Foot which was a Shropshire regiment but in those days men took the King's Shilling, as it was known, all over the place. Remember that the Napoleonic Wars went on for many years, only ending with Napoleon's defeat at Waterloo in 1815. So it looks as if your ancestor found army life to his liking and remained in the forces long after Napoleon had been seen off! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

    01/08/2012 09:48:57
    1. [NTT] Militia
    2. Sheila Khan
    3. I have the discharge papers for one of my ancestors, James Godber, who was in the Royal Nottinghamshire Militia. He was apparently enlisted in 1798 at the age of 18 for the space of 5 years and during the war. He actually had served over 35 years by the time he was discharged in 1835. Could anybody tell me which war this would be? Thanks -- Sheila

    01/08/2012 09:28:06
    1. Re: [NTT] 1911 census search
    2. Jean Wood
    3. OK; Sorry - I did not look up the census entry ! Please forgive the intrusion! Jean Wood > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [NTT] 1911 census search > Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 09:59:17 +0000 > > Jean, > > Just to clarify. This Elizabeth's occupation was recorded - by the main > householder i.e. the Hotel Proprietor - as a "Barmaid." It was her > relationship with the main householder that was recorded as "Assistant", > with the enumerator having added the word "Boarder." > > Brian Binns > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jean > Wood > Sent: 07 January 2012 16:25 > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Nottsgen > Subject: [NTT] 1911 census search > > > Just to add my two pennorth to this discussion; > > I was formerly a Primary teacher: we were officially entitled "Assistant > teachers" i.e. assistants to the head teacher - or now "qualified teachers" > = QTs. There is a possibility that this lady said she was an assistant > teacher and just the first word was heard by the form filler (especially if > he was having trouble writing a relatively simple name like Hacket/t) > > Jean Wood > > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] > > Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:09:58 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [NTT] 1911 census search > > > > Hi Nivard, > > > > The transcribers at Find my Past have actually recorded it as Harcket, not > > as I originally advised. On the actual return which I have on the screen > in > > front of me, the word Boarder has been added by the enumerator, with ditto > > marks for all the other persons listed below Elizabeth. It was not > recorded > > by the main householder. However, as you rightly say, Elizabeth is denoted > > as an "assistant" whereas all the others are servants. > > > > I still think that this is Jo-Ann's elusive Elizabeth. > > > > Brian Binns > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: 07 January 2012 09:56 > > To: Brian Binns; [email protected]; [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [NTT] 1911 census search > > > > Hi Brian & Jo-Ann > > > > Ancestry have the full 1911 for Staffs but its not transcribed as yet > > > > You can search the RG78 summaries which are very useful for addresses I > find > > > > Being summaries they usually record the surname only or with initials , so > a > > search for CHAMBERLAIN > > and keywords Stafford street Hanley finds one hit in 1911 > > > > Looking at that finds the Hotel is the Saracens Head schedule 2 > > > > Looking at the 1911 for Staffs and selecting Hanley ED28 page 4 (usually 2 > > pages per schedule, 4 in > > this case as its the large schedule) finds the page for the Hotel & > > occupants > > > > The name is actually Elizabeth HACCKET on the page and it looks to me as > if > > he simply did not know > > how to spell the name or just entered a stray C , (I have done it myself > :-) > > > > Against her name and the others after the CHAMBERLAINs is the word Boarder > , > > her relationship to the > > head of household is assistant, all the others after her are servants > > > > G CHAMBERLAIN signs the schedule, address Saracens Hotel (43 rooms) > > > > It certainly looks like a good possibility for her > > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > > > > > > > The reference is RG14PN16538 RG78PN1022 RD361 SD1 ED28 SN2 > > > By the way, Ancestry appears not to have a complete 1911 census of > Staffs > > > yet. I tried with the Publican's name at this hotel, a George > Chamberlain, > > > but he couldn't be found. > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > > > Brian Binns > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4727 - Release Date: 01/06/12 > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4727 - Release Date: 01/06/12 > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4727 - Release Date: 01/06/12 > > > > > > > > Notts Surname List > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > = > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4727 - Release Date: 01/06/12 > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4727 - Release Date: 01/06/12 > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4729 - Release Date: 01/07/12 >

    01/08/2012 05:48:34
    1. [NTT] John Robinson married Catherine Wells, Notts, Misterton, 20 May 1741
    2. Chuck O'Clair
    3. Hello, Listers! Nice to meet you all! (I have been reading your messages). OK, now I am pretty new to this, so bear with me, please. John Robinson married Catherine Wells (b. 1716 Misterton, Notts) on 20 May 1741 in Misterton. Catherine's parents were Joseph Wells, who married Mary Duckle on 26 Feb 1716 in Misterton. John Robinson and Catherine Wells had at least two children in Misterton. Mary was born in 1742 and her brother, John, was born in 1744. This younger John Robinson then moved to Lincs, and married Elizabeth Stockdale on 26 April 1764 in Scotter, Lincs. They had four children, all born in Scotter, so apparently they stayed in Elizabeth's home town. OK, so my questions revolve around the first John Robinson, the one who married Catherine Wells in 1741. When and where was this first John Robinson born? When and where did he die? Also, when and where did Catherine Wells Robinson die? And is there any way to find info on who this first John Robinson's siblings and parents were? I first posted a message on the Rootsweb Robinson bulletin board and got no answers at all. By Googling around I was able to find an Olive Batty, who has done some research on Robinsons in Misterton, and she had a Samuel Robinson, who might have been a sibling of my earlier John, but we are not sure. I am currently writing a book on these Robinsons, which are my mother's side of my family, so it would be really great to trace the Robinson surname back as far as possible. Blessings to anyone who can help. I know what a pain it is to have such a common name as John Robinson, but it can't be helped. Good luck!! Cheers, Rita O'Clair Friday Harbor, Washington State, USA [email protected]

    01/08/2012 04:17:10
    1. [NTT] The Nottingham Review, 1827. Letter from William Hunt.
    2. Kate Winks
    3. Hi again List, Just want to thank everyone who replied to my post about a letter from Royal Veteran William Hunt which was published in The Nottingham Review in 1827. Special thanks go to Dai Bevan who was visiting a library and actually obtained the article from the above newspaper and sent to me off list. I am delighted to have the full copy as I previously only had snippets of the letter transcribed. Dai suggested I post the letters published here for anyone who may be interested, the letters give a good account of what it was like on the journey over to Sydney and food, housing conditions, wages etc. Then William travelled to Hobart Town in Tasmania where he was stationed as an overseer of a convict gang, he seemed quite proud of the fact that his gang completed the first street in Hobart Town. Williams story is very interesting, he was at the Battle of Waterloo in the 59th Regiment, although his Reg did not partake in the fighting, more covering the right flank of Wellington, also William survived the wreck of the English warship ‘Seahorse’ just off Tramore, Ireland, in 1816, and the loss of 363 lives. Sadly William died in 1828 at Birch’s Bay, Tasmania in 1828. Kind Regards to everyone, Kate Winks, Melbourne, Australia. The Nottingham Review, August 24, 1827. Extract from a letter written by William Hunt of this town who went out at the latter end of last year, as a private in the Royal Veteran Company, for New South Wales. The letter is addressed to Mr Samuel Preston of Nottingham who has obligingly favoured us with it:- Hobart Town, Van Dieman's Land 20 March 1827 Dear Friends, We had a very fine passage from Spithead to New South Wales. We had a very fresh breeze of wind through the English Channel, which made my daughter very sea-sick for the first fortnight, but she never was sick afterwards; my wife never was sick at all, and it is needless to say I never was sick. I wrote to you before we arrived at Portsmouth and stated the particulars of our situation on board which was very comfortable, as we had a large birth to ourselves; we had room enough in it to put one of our boxes which we slept in, in the birth, all the passage, and the other box we kept in the sick-bay, so that we had all our stores under our eyes. There were ten women brought to bed on the passage. We had the small pox and measles on board and we buried twelve children and one women during the passage; we had very few men sick. We anchored in Sidney Cove the 8th of July which was four months to the day from the time we left Spithead. We had no particular accident occurred worthy of notice during the passage. When we arrived at Sidney there was no place provided for our reception but they soon set to work, and cleaned out a part of soldiery barracks, and an orphan school that had been unoccupied for some time, so that in two days all was ready and we went on shore, and soon made ourselves very comfortable. As we sung out for the grog, and got our rations, which was fresh beef, so we struck up a tune on the frying pan and were all jovial together. Mrs Plowright died at Sidney four months before we arrived there; she died very suddenly. The first man that spoke to me was a Nottingham man, to ask me if we had any from Nottingham belonging to our corps; his heart leapt for joy when I told him I was from Nottingham and while we were talking, John Sinter's son came up, so they helped me with my boxes and luggage; the man's name was Daniel Smeeton; he was 14 when he left Nottingham and was for seven years; he is a free man this month; he was the same trade as me, but he has learned stone-cutting since he has been in Sidney, and was getting 2 pound a week, set wages, when I saw him. We went to old Jack Slater's the next day, and had a jovial carouse. Slater is a prisoner for life but he has got a ticket of leave, so that he does no Government work as long as he gets into no trouble; they are doing very well. His wife has had a son since she arrived in Sidney so that they have two sons and two daughters; the eldest son is as tall as his father. Sarah the eldest is at home with the others; the other daughter is in service, in the same place as she went to when she first came into the colony. I can assure you, by being eye-witness, a prisoner in these colonies is no joke, for they work twelve hours a day for Government, five days in the week and they have only Saturday for themselves, so that it is not now as it used to be. We were at Sidney three weeks when our company were ordered for this place where we arrived in seventeen days. It is 700 miles from Sidney and that nearer to England. We have very good rations, all fresh meat, beef and mutton. My allowance is seven pounds of meat and seven pounds of bread per week, and one quart of rum every six days (1.2 litres) and my wife's three pounds and a half of each, and my daughters' one-third, that is, one pound of each every third day. Women and children are allowed no liquor - the worse for me. We draw our liquor every Saturday, which makes a good Saturday night, then good-bye for a week. Our pay we receive twice a month. For further particulars, I must refer you to Wm Shaw, in his letter. Our kind love to your wife and Susan and her husband. Your respectfully, Wm Hunt" >From the letter to Mr Shaw, referred to above, we extract the following:- "This Island is divided into two counties, Cornwall and Buckinghamshire; the assizes are held every quarter, at Launceston, and at this place (Hobart Town). The first assizes held here after we arrived, there were twenty-seven cast for death, four of which were reprieved and sent to a penal settlement for life, twenty three were executed - on Wednesday seven, Friday seven, and on Monday nine, which made twenty-three. There is a drop here that they can execute twelve at a time. We went to see the nine suffer, and such a sight we neither of us saw before; all of them appeared to die very penitent. They are very severe with them here, as most of their offences were for sheep-stealing. At the last assizes twelve were executed and I saw all of them. There is eleven of us here overseers over different gangs, and the rest are all over the country; the gang that I have charge of, are in chains, and are obliged to work with their irons on, according to the term of their sentence, and that is commonly from one to six months each, according to the offence, which is like crimes in the army, for being drunk or absent. My duty with them is to keep them close to work during the appointed time, and can assure you that they must work hard, for if the overseer reports any of them for neglect, they are sure of twenty-five or fifty lashes. Their allowance of provisions is one pound of bread and the same of meat (?) but no vegetables to their meat, so that they have none too much. They have coffee morning and night, but they say it is very bad. The work my gang does is making the town streets and levelling and gravelling them and I have the honour to say that I have completed the first street in Hobart Town, and I believe there are nineteen more want completing, so that if, please God, I live and have my health, I have three years' work cut out for me. My superintendent told me that we were to serve three years as overseer, and then have a grant of land given to us, equal to former settlers, and receive our pensions here, so that these three years will just bring me in one shilling a day, if England can afford to pay it me! I saw and drank with John Slater at Sidney; his wife and family are with him, doing very well; they keep a shop, and sell almost every thing, not forgetting a "drop of the creature", but I think the old man drinks most of the profits. "We have found many Nottingham men here, and Alfred Gelding is at this place, and in good health, doing very well, as he is a tailor, which is one of the best trades in the colony; and Mr Lamb's son is here, he is doing very well; and Geo. Lackenby is here, and is very well. We heartily wish you were all as well off as we are, for, thank God, and my lucky stars, that we don't want for the common necessaries of life; for we have plenty to eat and drink, and a good bed to lay upon at night." We have also seen two other letters from William Hunt, from which we glean the following particulars:- "Sydney is very pleasant town, and there is a good and well supplied market every Thursday, and public houses are almost as thick together as in Nottingham; rum is 1s the half-pint and plenty of good wine at 1s 3d per quart. Vegetables are very dear; we had to pay 6d for one cabbage, and potatoes are three halfpence a pound, bread 2d, meat 6d; tea, very good, 3s and sugar 4 1/2 per pound; soap and candles 1s per pound; very indifferent ale 9d per quart. Wearing apparel is very dear indeed, but the working people are paid very well for their labour; tailors, shoemakers, bricklayers and stonemasons, can earn from 10s to 15s per day. When we had been at Hobart-town about a fortnight we got a place of service for our daughter, at one of the first merchants in the colony, to nurse a child five weeks old; her wages are 13 Pound a year, and we draw her rations, the same as if she was with us. "My station is over a gang of convicts, consisting of from forty to eighty, all in chains, with heavy irons round each leg; the cause of the different number of them is, they are put in irons for a certain time, some for one, two, and three months, and others for six months, or during the Lieutenant-Governor's pleasure; I have one that has been for pleasure one year and five months; their sentences are according to the nature and degree of the offence they may have committed and they never take their irons off until they have served their sentence, day or night. I fetch them from the prison barracks at half-past five in the morning, and they work till nine o'clock, and out again at ten till one, for dinner; then again from half-past two till six at night; in winter time was work from seven in the morning till five in the evening, when I take them into the barracks, where they remain till I fetch them out in the morning. As there is no place provided for me in the barracks, I am obliged to find my own quarters, though I have petitioned to the Lieutenant-Governor, and wrote to the chief Engineer of my department, but all to no effect. The other overseers in town are similarly situated. We have two rooms upon a floor, for which I pay three shillings per week currency, but they are very pleasantly situated, about half a mile from town. The business I have with my gang, is to overlook them with a stick in my hand, and to see them work, and I am obliged to be very severe with them, to keep them properly under; and yet they say I am the best overseer they ever had, for were I to make the least report against them for being idle, they would get five-and-twenty or fifty lashes, so that I abstain reporting them as much as possible, for whatever the overseer says is law."

    01/08/2012 03:54:24
    1. [NTT] HEDDERLY/HEDDERLEY in Greasley
    2. John Hedderly
    3. I have two long standing brick walls, Joel HEDDERLY b. 1783 in Newthorpe and Luke HEDDERLY b. 1812 in Greasley. Both records are from military sources. I have records of later marriages outside the area but can find nothing which might identify their antecedents. I have managed to trace all other living Hedderlys back to one Hanbury bellfounder but these two have eluded me. Any help gratefully received! Regards John Hedderly .

    01/08/2012 03:07:52
    1. Re: [NTT] 1911 census search
    2. Brian Binns
    3. Jean, Just to clarify. This Elizabeth's occupation was recorded - by the main householder i.e. the Hotel Proprietor - as a "Barmaid." It was her relationship with the main householder that was recorded as "Assistant", with the enumerator having added the word "Boarder." Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jean Wood Sent: 07 January 2012 16:25 To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Nottsgen Subject: [NTT] 1911 census search Just to add my two pennorth to this discussion; I was formerly a Primary teacher: we were officially entitled "Assistant teachers" i.e. assistants to the head teacher - or now "qualified teachers" = QTs. There is a possibility that this lady said she was an assistant teacher and just the first word was heard by the form filler (especially if he was having trouble writing a relatively simple name like Hacket/t) Jean Wood > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:09:58 +0000 > Subject: Re: [NTT] 1911 census search > > Hi Nivard, > > The transcribers at Find my Past have actually recorded it as Harcket, not > as I originally advised. On the actual return which I have on the screen in > front of me, the word Boarder has been added by the enumerator, with ditto > marks for all the other persons listed below Elizabeth. It was not recorded > by the main householder. However, as you rightly say, Elizabeth is denoted > as an "assistant" whereas all the others are servants. > > I still think that this is Jo-Ann's elusive Elizabeth. > > Brian Binns > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 07 January 2012 09:56 > To: Brian Binns; [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NTT] 1911 census search > > Hi Brian & Jo-Ann > > Ancestry have the full 1911 for Staffs but its not transcribed as yet > > You can search the RG78 summaries which are very useful for addresses I find > > Being summaries they usually record the surname only or with initials , so a > search for CHAMBERLAIN > and keywords Stafford street Hanley finds one hit in 1911 > > Looking at that finds the Hotel is the Saracens Head schedule 2 > > Looking at the 1911 for Staffs and selecting Hanley ED28 page 4 (usually 2 > pages per schedule, 4 in > this case as its the large schedule) finds the page for the Hotel & > occupants > > The name is actually Elizabeth HACCKET on the page and it looks to me as if > he simply did not know > how to spell the name or just entered a stray C , (I have done it myself :-) > > Against her name and the others after the CHAMBERLAINs is the word Boarder , > her relationship to the > head of household is assistant, all the others after her are servants > > G CHAMBERLAIN signs the schedule, address Saracens Hotel (43 rooms) > > It certainly looks like a good possibility for her > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > > The reference is RG14PN16538 RG78PN1022 RD361 SD1 ED28 SN2 > > By the way, Ancestry appears not to have a complete 1911 census of Staffs > > yet. I tried with the Publican's name at this hotel, a George Chamberlain, > > but he couldn't be found. > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Brian Binns > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4727 - Release Date: 01/06/12 > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4727 - Release Date: 01/06/12 > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4727 - Release Date: 01/06/12 > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message = ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4727 - Release Date: 01/06/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4727 - Release Date: 01/06/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4729 - Release Date: 01/07/12

    01/08/2012 02:59:17
    1. [NTT] REDDISH in Eakring
    2. Don McArthur
    3. Apropos REDDISH, the only William I could find on the IGI was baptised in Eakring. The earlier registers are transcribed, so I have had a go at putting the family together. Some assumptions as to who fits where have been made. Caveat lector. Regards, Don McArthur, Johannesburg. Descendants of William Reddish 1 William REDDISH .. +Anne WAGER m: 25 Nov 1604 in Eakring ... 2 Simon REDDISH 14 Apr 1620 ~ Eakring ....... +Judith NN m: 3 Jul 1654 in Eakring ........ 3 William REDDISH 22 Sep 1655 ~ Eakring ........ 3 Richard REDDISH 1 Jun 1658 ~ Eakring ........ 3 Edward REDDISH 21 Sep 1660 ~ Eakring ........ 3 Gilbert REDDISH 17 Dec 1664 ~ Eakring ........ 3 Winifred REDDISH 18 Mar 1665/66 ~ Eakring ........ 3 Simon REDDISH 2 May 1669 ~ Eakring . 1696/8 witness in immorality case - see notes ... 2 Joan REDDISH 28 Dec 1620 ~ Eakring ... 2 Richard REDDISH assumed as son d: Bef. 17 Nov 1679 b: Eakring ....... +Elizabeth NN d: Bef. 11 Jan 1700/01 b: Eakring ........ 3 Simon REDDISH assumed as father 2 May 1654 ~ Eakring ............. 4 Richard REDDISH 10 Jan 1683/84 ~ Eakring ............. 4 Sarah REDDISH 9 Aug 1685 ~ Eakring ............. 4 William REDDISH 1 Jun 1687 ~ Eakring ............. 4 Mary REDDISH 17 Jul 1689 ~ Eakring ............. 4 Ann REDDISH 14 Feb 1690/91 ~ Eakring

    01/08/2012 02:28:47
    1. [NTT] RADISH soundex not = REDDISH & BRYAN of East Drayton
    2. Don McArthur
    3. I had gotten nowhere using the IGI for the c 1722 marriage of William RADISH and Elizabeth NN. Out of desperation I tried REDISH, and it worked. I thought Soundex ignored vowels. So, if anyone can add anything here I'd appreciate it. Regards, Don McArthur, Johannesburg. Descendants of William Reddish 1 William REDISH of East Markham d: Aft. 1758 .. +Elizabeth BRYAN of East Drayton m: 20 Jun 1721 in West Retford ... 2 William RADISH 25 Mar 1723 ~ East Markham d: Bef. 22 May . 1772 of East Markham ....... +Mary HAWKESMORE b: Abt. 1739 m: 27 Jun 1758 in East . Markham d: 4 Dec 1820 in of West Retford b: Headon Father: Richard HAWKESMORE Mother: Katherine LEVERTON ........ 3 Elizabeth RADISH 5 Apr 1759 ~ Headon ............ +Martin BOWER of West Drayton - 29 Sep 1754 ~ Grove, . Notts., sv Martin ? m: 15 Oct 1780 in Headon . d: Aft. 1832 of Retford ........ 3 Mary RADISH 10 May 1760 ~ Headon d: Bef. 7 Dec 1760 b: Headon ... 2 Elizabeth RADISH 27 Oct 1726 ~ East Markham d: Bef. 19 Jan 1727/28

    01/08/2012 02:20:14
    1. Re: [NTT] REDDISH in Eakring
    2. Hi, I can't help at all but just wanted to say how nice it was to see Eakring mentioned! I grew up there and attended the primary school in Eakring. I have happy memories of my childhood in Eakring. Lin In a message dated 08/01/2012 07:29:36 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Apropos REDDISH, the only William I could find on the IGI was baptised in Eakring. The earlier registers are transcribed, so I have had a go at putting the family together. Some assumptions as to who fits where have been made. Caveat lector. Regards, Don McArthur, Johannesburg. Descendants of William Reddish 1 William REDDISH .. +Anne WAGER m: 25 Nov 1604 in Eakring ... 2 Simon REDDISH 14 Apr 1620 ~ Eakring ....... +Judith NN m: 3 Jul 1654 in Eakring ........ 3 William REDDISH 22 Sep 1655 ~ Eakring ........ 3 Richard REDDISH 1 Jun 1658 ~ Eakring ........ 3 Edward REDDISH 21 Sep 1660 ~ Eakring ........ 3 Gilbert REDDISH 17 Dec 1664 ~ Eakring ........ 3 Winifred REDDISH 18 Mar 1665/66 ~ Eakring ........ 3 Simon REDDISH 2 May 1669 ~ Eakring . 1696/8 witness in immorality case - see notes ... 2 Joan REDDISH 28 Dec 1620 ~ Eakring ... 2 Richard REDDISH assumed as son d: Bef. 17 Nov 1679 b: Eakring ....... +Elizabeth NN d: Bef. 11 Jan 1700/01 b: Eakring ........ 3 Simon REDDISH assumed as father 2 May 1654 ~ Eakring ............. 4 Richard REDDISH 10 Jan 1683/84 ~ Eakring ............. 4 Sarah REDDISH 9 Aug 1685 ~ Eakring ............. 4 William REDDISH 1 Jun 1687 ~ Eakring ............. 4 Mary REDDISH 17 Jul 1689 ~ Eakring ............. 4 Ann REDDISH 14 Feb 1690/91 ~ Eakring Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/08/2012 02:18:42
    1. Re: [NTT] 1911 Census
    2. Dai & Angela Bevan
    3. Sarah Greaves, born Wadsworth, Yorks is described as 'mother' with Joseph and HAnnah Stewart at RG14PN20244 RG78PN1212 RD427 SD2 ED3 SN59, ('Blyth, Rotherham, Notts') Dai On 08/01/2012 00:53, William Higgins wrote: > Could some kind soul have a look in the 1911 census for: > > > > Sarah Greaves 85 widow born Yorkshire died 1913 in Blyth, Notts. > > > > She was in Whitwell, Derby in the 1901 census. > > > > William Higgins..in Mississauga, ontario > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/08/2012 01:20:05
    1. [NTT] Some 1827 Marriages and deaths
    2. Dai & Angela Bevan
    3. Happy New year to all. From the Nottingham Review Friday 24 August 1827 MARRIED At. St. Mary's- On Saturday, Mr. James Bradshaw, to Miss Sarah Dudley. On Sunday, Mr. W. Watts, to Miss Mary Watmaugh On Monday, Mr. Philip Bentley, to Miss Mary Ann Whitley On Tuesday, Mr. Henry Potter, to Miss S. Alvey. At St. Nicholas's. - On Monday, Mr. Thomas Clarke of Loughborough, to Miss Mary Knight. Wednesday, Mr. W. Parnham, to Miss Ann Holmes. At St. Peter's. - On Monday, Mr. Thomas Bostock, of Stafford, to Miss Sarah Hall. At Snenton, On Tuesday last, Mr. Robert Boot to to Miss Mary Ann Smith, both of New Snenton. On Friday Last, at Radford, by the Rev. F. Creswell, Mr. G. Kerry, Redfield Farm, to Miss Hannah Morley, of the same place, both in the parish of Radford. At Basford, on Sunday by the Rev. W. Herbert, Mr. Nimrod Burton, second son of Mr. Joshua Burton, to Miss Alice Dickson, both of Basford. On Saturday at Gedling, by the Rev. Mr. Rolleston, Mr. Wm. Watson, hosier, London, to Mary, eldest daughter of the late Mr. G. Twell, solicitor, Grantham. At Lambley, on Sunday, Mr. Robert Edwards, to Miss Jane Selby DIED On Wednesday morning, aged 42 years, after a long and painful affliction of 14 years continuance, which she sustained with Christian fortitude and resignation to the divine will, Ann, the wife of Mr. John Alester, Broad-street. Her end was peace. On the 21st instant, aged 21, Miss Mary Manners, Parliament street, after a long illness, which she bore with that fortitude and resignation, which distinguishes the character of the true Christian. On Monday, Mr. Edward Dance, Crosland-street, aged 24 years. On Sunday last, aged 67 years, Mr. Saml. Briggs, shoe-maker. Rosemary-lane. On Thursday week, at an advanced age, Mr. Parman, Plat-street. On Tuesday, 21st instant, at Basford, in his 10th year, Samuel, youngest son of Mr. Wm. Walker, High-pavement, Nottingham. On Tuesday last, at Hyson Green, greatly respected, aged 42, Ann, the wife of Mr. Francis Archer, and daughter of Mr. James Wilkins of Granby-street. On Wednesday, at Lenton, aged 80, Mr. W. Wood. At his brother's house, at Hucknall Torkard, on Wednesday week, Mr. Wm. Allen, in the 37th year of his age, after a long and painful illness, which he bore with Christian fortitude. He was a member of the Leicester cricket club, and much respected by a numerous circle of friends and relations. At Sutton in Ashfield, on Monday week, Mr. Downing, aged 87 years. I hope they may be of use to someone. Dai

    01/08/2012 01:04:57
    1. Re: [NTT] 1911 census search
    2. Balloon Expedition Co.
    3. INteresting comment re Hanley and Brinsley and the hotel proprieter as I am researching VICKERS from BRINSELY - so may be Jo Ann, there is a connection somewhere in this vast family ! Di McKee New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [NTT] 1911 census search > Thank you Brain, Nival, Mike, Peter, Bill and anyone else if I missed you. > Thank you all for all the advice and where to check. > > Right now I am awake at 4 am so I will wait until my mind is in better > shape to look at all the places you have given me. I was doing the free > research on Find my part thinking I would buy credits if I found enough. > I have > ancestry and they are getting some. More seems to be in Nottingham or at > least a lot of mine. > > Its just one of those things to fill in the missing two. II will check out > all after I try to sleep more. I know now is not the time. Just wanted to > thank everyone for all your help and input. You are such a great group. > And > I find that some names (Brain and Nival) has helped me with so many of > my post over the years. > > Thank you everyone for trying to help me find my missing link on this one > census. Strange how one will keep bugging you until one day it is there to > stop the nagging mind to finish at least until the new 1940 USA comes out > soon. Then follow them from there. > > Sincerely Jo-Ann > > > In a message dated 1/7/2012 1:23:19 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Jo-Ann, > > I have found Elizabeth's parents on the 1911 census in Bishops Wood, > Brewood, Staffs, as you indeed may have, and Elizabeth is not there. She > was > living away from home as a Teacher on the 1901 census, so I suppose there > is > no reason that she should still be with her parents, but when all else > fails > you try anything. Goodness me, she is elusive isn't she? Incidentally she > states Wolverhampton as her birthplace on the 1901 census. > > There is an Elizabeth Hackett, recorded as Hakcet on Find my Past, aged > 28, > born in Wolverhampton. She is working as a barmaid in a Hotel on Stafford > Street, Hanley, Staffs. There appears to be a page missing on Find my > Past, > as it doesn't show the page with the householder's declaration, so the > name > of the Hotel is not shown. Apart from the obvious divergence of > occupation, > she fits. Maybe she boarded there as a Teacher, but helped out in the > Hotel > at night, hence the use of the word "barmaid." > The reference is RG14PN16538 RG78PN1022 RD361 SD1 ED28 SN2 > By the way, Ancestry appears not to have a complete 1911 census of Staffs > yet. I tried with the Publican's name at this hotel, a George > Chamberlain, > but he couldn't be found. > > Hope this helps, > > Brian Binns > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of [email protected] > Sent: 06 January 2012 20:45 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NTT] 1911 census search > > Looking for a clue on my research. > > I have tried everything I know to do even adding additional years to > ages. I am trying to find Arthur Vickers born 1884 Basford, Nottingham. > Elizabeth Anne Hackett born 1883 Brewood, Staffordshire. They were > married > in Oct > of 1911 he lived in Boldmere ? I think that is in Warwickshire. And she > was living in Brewood, Staffordshire. > > Like I said I have tried every thing I know of and sure there are other > ways I have no clue of. I cannot find Arthur Vickers or Elizabeth > Hackett. > Like I say they were married 12 Oct 1911 in Staffordshire. I have the > marriage > certificate. > > Would it be possible that they both did not fill in the census. Arthur > Vickers was at the time of marriage a > Manufacturing stationers Manager. Elizabeth a school teacher. I would > think they would be responsible people and fill in the census. > > Any input as to why I am having trouble finding at least one would be > appreciated very much. > > Jo-Ann Vickers > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4726 - Release Date: 01/06/12 > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4726 - Release Date: 01/06/12 > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4727 - Release Date: > 01/06/12 > > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/07/2012 09:33:31
    1. Re: [NTT] Vickers
    2. Peter R Booth
    3. Brian, I doubt the people of South Australia would agree about the "wilds of Australia". They considered Adelaide a very genteel place and are quite proud that it's the only state that didn't have any convicts. Not like my mob in Sydney. Peter

    01/07/2012 03:19:33
    1. Re: [NTT] 1911 census search
    2. Peter R Booth
    3. Jo-Ann, Apologies. Looks like I stopped at the first likely matches that I found. Unfortunately, I haven't purchased any new credits at Find My Past as I get it for free at the library. So I can only do limited searching from home. At least Brian and Nivard are on the job. Peter

    01/07/2012 02:10:43
    1. Re: [NTT] 1911 Census
    2. Laurie Caron
    3. The following is a list, when searching by Sarah Greaves (soundex) born 1826 within 10 years either way - and I took all counties, as there was no one in Derby. Hope something here helps you....if you want to see a specific record, let me know. And I hope the table comes through OK - it often shifts when the list messaging editor turns the text to plain text instead of HTML. Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birth Place Relation Residence Mrs Sarah Graves abt 1833 Hinckley Boarder Hinckley, Leicestershire Sarah Ann Greaves abt 1835 Morley, Yorkshire, England Mother Morley, Yorkshire-West Riding Sarah Ellen Graves abt 1835 Brawby Head York, Yorkshire-East Riding Sarah Graves abt 1836 St Johns, Bermondsey London Mother Bermondsey, London Sarah Greaves abt 1832 Briston, Yorkshire, England Head Armley and Bramley, Yorkshire-West Riding Sarah Groves Edward abt 1834 Begely, Penbrokshire Wife Rochdale, Lancashire Sarah Groves abt 1835 Ebury Street, Pimlico London Head City of London, London Sarah Jane Graves William James abt 1836 Dartmouth, Devon, England Mother Gateshead, Durham -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of William Higgins Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 7:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NTT] 1911 Census Could some kind soul have a look in the 1911 census for: Sarah Greaves 85 widow born Yorkshire died 1913 in Blyth, Notts. She was in Whitwell, Derby in the 1901 census. William Higgins..in Mississauga, ontario Notts Surname List <http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/07/2012 02:03:56
    1. [NTT] 1911 Census
    2. William Higgins
    3. Could some kind soul have a look in the 1911 census for: Sarah Greaves 85 widow born Yorkshire died 1913 in Blyth, Notts. She was in Whitwell, Derby in the 1901 census. William Higgins..in Mississauga, ontario

    01/07/2012 12:53:53
    1. [NTT] Looking for PECHE
    2. Ruth Genda
    3. Another obvious website to look at for older material/information is the A2A site: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/ There are 198 results for the name PECHE, 17 of which are between 1100 and 1200. Ruth

    01/07/2012 11:01:48
    1. [NTT] 1911 census search
    2. Jean Wood
    3. Just to add my two pennorth to this discussion; I was formerly a Primary teacher: we were officially entitled "Assistant teachers" i.e. assistants to the head teacher - or now "qualified teachers" = QTs. There is a possibility that this lady said she was an assistant teacher and just the first word was heard by the form filler (especially if he was having trouble writing a relatively simple name like Hacket/t) Jean Wood > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:09:58 +0000 > Subject: Re: [NTT] 1911 census search > > Hi Nivard, > > The transcribers at Find my Past have actually recorded it as Harcket, not > as I originally advised. On the actual return which I have on the screen in > front of me, the word Boarder has been added by the enumerator, with ditto > marks for all the other persons listed below Elizabeth. It was not recorded > by the main householder. However, as you rightly say, Elizabeth is denoted > as an "assistant" whereas all the others are servants. > > I still think that this is Jo-Ann's elusive Elizabeth. > > Brian Binns > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 07 January 2012 09:56 > To: Brian Binns; [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NTT] 1911 census search > > Hi Brian & Jo-Ann > > Ancestry have the full 1911 for Staffs but its not transcribed as yet > > You can search the RG78 summaries which are very useful for addresses I find > > Being summaries they usually record the surname only or with initials , so a > search for CHAMBERLAIN > and keywords Stafford street Hanley finds one hit in 1911 > > Looking at that finds the Hotel is the Saracens Head schedule 2 > > Looking at the 1911 for Staffs and selecting Hanley ED28 page 4 (usually 2 > pages per schedule, 4 in > this case as its the large schedule) finds the page for the Hotel & > occupants > > The name is actually Elizabeth HACCKET on the page and it looks to me as if > he simply did not know > how to spell the name or just entered a stray C , (I have done it myself :-) > > Against her name and the others after the CHAMBERLAINs is the word Boarder , > her relationship to the > head of household is assistant, all the others after her are servants > > G CHAMBERLAIN signs the schedule, address Saracens Hotel (43 rooms) > > It certainly looks like a good possibility for her > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > > > The reference is RG14PN16538 RG78PN1022 RD361 SD1 ED28 SN2 > > By the way, Ancestry appears not to have a complete 1911 census of Staffs > > yet. I tried with the Publican's name at this hotel, a George Chamberlain, > > but he couldn't be found. > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > Brian Binns > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4727 - Release Date: 01/06/12 > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4727 - Release Date: 01/06/12 > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4727 - Release Date: 01/06/12 > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/07/2012 10:24:33