Sharan, not sure where in the world you are, but my late aunt lived at 12 Kingsnorth Gardens. Very beautiful houses owned back in 1911 by wealthy people, which makes sense if she was a colliery owners wife. The gardens themselves are lovely formal gardens, I almost certainly have photos if you would like some, but at present we have a house full of builders and won't be able to find them until we are straight. Most of the houses are now converted into flats, my aunt lived in one of four flats within number 12. Liz Sent from my iPhone On 23 Feb 2012, at 11:32, "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Sharan > > If you go to the 1911 census (England) > > Select Kent > > Then Folkstone, then district 11 > > Select page 18 there are your family > > She is the wife of a colliery owner and born in Calcutta > > In the enumerators summaries she is records as :- > > Mrs Shrager 6 8 Kingsnorth Gardens Folkestone Holy Trinity Kent Elham > > Which gives schedule 9 > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > >> Would someone be willing to find Adele Shrager 34yo, with Isabella 3yo and leonie 2yo at Elham >> kent on "find my Past" >> >> They are indexed on Find my Past but seem to be missing on Ancestry !! And of course only my >> ancestry subscription is current. >> I'm hoping Adele is a widow and her birth place may hint at a marriage to James Shrager >> >> Sorry this isnt strictly Notts, but any help is very much appreciated. >> >> Thankyou >> regards >> Sharan > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Unfortunately not, Susan - this site http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/indexbd.htm gives you a guide as to what information to expect from certificates. You would only get both parents' names from her birth certificate. Katie NE Wales On 23/02/2012 15:27, Susan Fowler wrote: > Good Morning > > I have found a death for Eliza Crickmay on BMD June Qtr of 1866 > > If I take out a subscription for Find My Past will it give me more details? Like Mother& Father? > > Thanks > Susan > In Sunny Beaverton, Ontario > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I sent an possible marriage directly to you -----Original Message----- From: Susan Fowler <[email protected]> To: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]>; nottsgen <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Feb 23, 2012 1:55 pm Subject: Re: [NTT] Question? Thanks a lot Nivard, I would have never found them here either?? On the family search the Mom Eliza is listed as born in Outwood Surrey. I have my Eliza (Snelling) bapt. Burstow Surrey. I have just googled, and it looks very close. Thanks again this group is the very best!! ________________________________ From: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> To: Susan Fowler <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:26:48 PM Subject: Re: [NTT] Question? Hi Susan As they are transcribed on Ancestry 1861 England Census about Eliza Ceickmay Name: Eliza Ceickmay Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Edward Ceick Ceickmay Mother's name: Eliza Ceickmay Gender: Female Where born: London, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Clewer Ecclesiastical parish: Clewer St Andrew County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Registration district: Windsor Sub-registration district: Windsor ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 135 Piece: 761 Folio: 113 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Edward Ceick Ceickmay 36 Eliza Ceickmay 26 Frederick Ceickmay 4 Eliza Ceickmay 2 RG 9; Piece: 761; Folio: 113; Page: 24; GSU roll: 542697. Somebody has already entered a correction to CRICKMAY todays date Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Good Morning > > I have found a death for Eliza Crickmay on BMD June Qtr of 1866 > > If I take out a subscription for Find My Past will it give me more details? Like Mother & Father? > > Thanks > Susan > In Sunny Beaverton, Ontario Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Rita, The only marriage on Notts CD for 1827 William PARR & Sarah FELL 1827_07_09 Nottingham St Mary there is also William PARR & Sarah KNIGHT 1830_11_20 Nottingham St Peter William PARR & Sarah WILD 1851_08_25 Nottingham St Mary Notts burials Sarah PARR 1871_09_03 55 Nottingham St Mary Barker Ga Regards, Lynne. Sydney, AUSTRALIA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:57 AM Subject: [NTT] interests >I am looking for William Parr who married a Sarah in 1827.I have tried to >find them on the 1841 census,found them at seperate addresses on the 1851 >census and nothing on the 1861 census.I have 3 deaths in 1858,59,and 60 for >William Parr.Does anyone have any info on Sarah,may have been born in >Spondon,Derbyshire.Sarah's name might be Fell but am not sure.Tried >ancestry with no joy at all.Are there any records available on line for >Derbyshire? > Thank you very much Rita Marshall

I have an Ann White born 1799 married to a John Staten/Staton (could be Statham) born Wollaton, married 26 November 1821 at Lenton, later living in Radford. They are my 3 x gt.grandparents. The White family have been notoriously difficult to trace as this is a very common surname, but it would appear that they probably were linked to the waterways at that time and moving along the River Trent. I believe they may have lived in the Laxton/Southwell area earlier, but have no proof yet. I would be interested to hear from anyone else who may have these two surnames in their tree. Mavis, born Nottingham, now in Somerset. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemary Probert" <[email protected]> To: "Peter R Booth" <[email protected]>; "Nottinghamshire Mailing List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [NTT] Felix James WHITE > Peter, > > Thank you for your reply. > > I found their marriage in the NFHS Marriage index in 1836, so no > certificate. > 9 Aug 1836 Felix James WHITE mar. Caroline AUCKLAND > I haven't been able to check the actual register yet to see if there are > any further details. > > Isabella Goodman WHITE was baptised in Oct 1837 and he used the name > Felix James. I cannot find her birth registration. > > He is just James WHITE in the 1841 census [HO107 piece 867 book 8 page > 29] and they only have one child with them, Isabella. And he appears to > be just James when his death is registered in 1844. > > I agree he could have come from Lincolnshire and I'll explore that > avenue after I've done my best to find him in Nottinghamshire. > > I keep hoping the name GOODMAN will turn up somewhere associated with > James and Ann: at least then I would have something more substantial to > grasp than simply James WHITE son of James and Ann - possibly :-) > > Rosemary > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On 23/02/2012 00:03, Peter R Booth wrote: >> Rosemary, >> >> It's tricky, isn't it? We don't know if we're looking for Felix >> White or >> James White? >> >> Could I suggest you look for his marriage and see what name he >> married >> under. You may already have that, but you didn't post it. >> >> You might also look at christenings of any children and see what it >> has >> for father's name. >> >> Quite often I've seen sons named after their father but know by a >> different given name to distinguish between the two. Alternatively, some >> countries might use James Snr and James Jnr, while other might use James >> I >> and James II. >> >> You might also look for his parent's marriage. I'm wondering if he >> may >> not have been born in Lincolnshire. >> >> Peter > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "Peter R Booth" <[email protected]> > Sharan, > > We might need a year???? > > Have you tried Isa* Shr* or Isa* b18-- +/-5. > You might also try Iso* > > > Peter > The same thought entered my mind, but I assume Sharan meant the 1911 census. I found the woman concerned and her two daughters very easily but I regret I am unable to post the details because I have close relations with Findmypast and I happen to know that they police their exclusive ownership of the 1911 fairly strictly. Indeed, some Listowners won't allow requests for looks-ups from that census at all. This is not scaremongering - I believe FMP have actually withdrawn access in some cases where people have been posting 1911 entries and images willy nilly. All I can say is that the person concerned is shown as married, not a widow, but husband not present. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Sharan If you go to the 1911 census (England) Select Kent Then Folkstone, then district 11 Select page 18 there are your family She is the wife of a colliery owner and born in Calcutta In the enumerators summaries she is records as :- Mrs Shrager 6 8 Kingsnorth Gardens Folkestone Holy Trinity Kent Elham Which gives schedule 9 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Would someone be willing to find Adele Shrager 34yo, with Isabella 3yo and leonie 2yo at Elham > kent on "find my Past" > > They are indexed on Find my Past but seem to be missing on Ancestry !! And of course only my > ancestry subscription is current. > I'm hoping Adele is a widow and her birth place may hint at a marriage to James Shrager > > Sorry this isnt strictly Notts, but any help is very much appreciated. > > Thankyou > regards > Sharan

Rosemary, It's tricky, isn't it? We don't know if we're looking for Felix White or James White? Could I suggest you look for his marriage and see what name he married under. You may already have that, but you didn't post it. You might also look at christenings of any children and see what it has for father's name. Quite often I've seen sons named after their father but know by a different given name to distinguish between the two. Alternatively, some countries might use James Snr and James Jnr, while other might use James I and James II. You might also look for his parent's marriage. I'm wondering if he may not have been born in Lincolnshire. Peter

Thanks a lot Nivard, I would have never found them here either?? On the family search the Mom Eliza is listed as born in Outwood Surrey. I have my Eliza (Snelling) bapt. Burstow Surrey. I have just googled, and it looks very close. Thanks again this group is the very best!! ________________________________ From: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> To: Susan Fowler <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 1:26:48 PM Subject: Re: [NTT] Question? Hi Susan As they are transcribed on Ancestry 1861 England Census about Eliza Ceickmay Name:  Eliza Ceickmay Age:  2 Estimated Birth Year:  abt 1859 Relation:  Daughter Father's Name:  Edward Ceick Ceickmay Mother's name:  Eliza Ceickmay Gender:  Female Where born:  London, Middlesex, England Civil parish:  Clewer Ecclesiastical parish:  Clewer St Andrew County/Island:  Berkshire Country:  England Registration district:  Windsor Sub-registration district:  Windsor ED, institution, or vessel:  16 Neighbors:  View others on page Household schedule number:  135 Piece:  761 Folio:  113 Page Number:  24 Household Members:  Name  Age Edward Ceick Ceickmay  36 Eliza Ceickmay  26 Frederick Ceickmay  4 Eliza Ceickmay  2 RG 9; Piece: 761; Folio: 113; Page: 24; GSU roll: 542697. Somebody has already entered a correction to CRICKMAY todays date Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Good Morning > > I have found a death for Eliza Crickmay on BMD June Qtr of 1866 > > If I take out a subscription for Find My Past will it give me more details? Like Mother & Father? > > Thanks > Susan > In Sunny Beaverton, Ontario

Rita, You've omitted vital details. What proof do you have of an 1827 marriage? What details do you have from 1851 census? How can you be sure it's the right couple? Family Search has 17 possible marriages for William Parr and Sarah 1820-1840. Two are in Nottinghamshire, one in Lincolnshire and one in Derbyshire. The others are a bit further away. Find My Past has 11 possibilities for William Parr born 1805 +/- 5 in 1841 census of Nottinghamshire and 7 for Sarah. I'd advise cross checking with Ancestry. But other than that I can't help. If you have census data, it's important to include all little clues like age, birthplace and occupation in you post. Peter

Peter, Thank you for your reply. I found their marriage in the NFHS Marriage index in 1836, so no certificate. 9 Aug 1836 Felix James WHITE mar. Caroline AUCKLAND I haven't been able to check the actual register yet to see if there are any further details. Isabella Goodman WHITE was baptised in Oct 1837 and he used the name Felix James. I cannot find her birth registration. He is just James WHITE in the 1841 census [HO107 piece 867 book 8 page 29] and they only have one child with them, Isabella. And he appears to be just James when his death is registered in 1844. I agree he could have come from Lincolnshire and I'll explore that avenue after I've done my best to find him in Nottinghamshire. I keep hoping the name GOODMAN will turn up somewhere associated with James and Ann: at least then I would have something more substantial to grasp than simply James WHITE son of James and Ann - possibly :-) Rosemary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On 23/02/2012 00:03, Peter R Booth wrote: > Rosemary, > > It's tricky, isn't it? We don't know if we're looking for Felix White or > James White? > > Could I suggest you look for his marriage and see what name he married > under. You may already have that, but you didn't post it. > > You might also look at christenings of any children and see what it has > for father's name. > > Quite often I've seen sons named after their father but know by a > different given name to distinguish between the two. Alternatively, some > countries might use James Snr and James Jnr, while other might use James I > and James II. > > You might also look for his parent's marriage. I'm wondering if he may > not have been born in Lincolnshire. > > Peter

Roy, thank you so.... much. I would have never have thought to look for Dickmay?? ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:56:19 AM Subject: Re: [NTT] Question? From:              Susan Fowler <[email protected]> > Good Morning > > I have found a death for Eliza Crickmay on BMD June Qtr of 1866 > > If I take out a subscription for Find My Past will it give me more > details? Like Mother & Father? > > Thanks > Susan > In Sunny Beaverton, Ontario> As Brian says, you will only get the details of who her parents were for certain by purchasing the birth certificate from the GRO for England & Wales, which you can do online. I note she was only 7 years old when she died in 1866. Therefore, she must be the Eliza Crickmay whose birth was registered at Westminster in the June quarter of 1859 (vol 1a page 256 - found with FreeBMD), However, if you look at the 1861 census at Findmypast I think you will find that the family has been mistranscribed as DICKMAY. I have looked at the image and I am certain the name is CRICKMAY. If I am right, then she was the daughter of Edward Crickmay, a tailor aged 36, and his wife Eliza, 26, and in 1861 they were living at Clewer, Berkshire, in the Windsor registration district. Eliza was aged 2, born 1859 at London Middlesex which would seem to fit. I feel it likely that this was her but I would advise you to get the birth certificate (or check Ancestry's London parish registers) if you want to be certain. The 1861 reference is: RG09 Piece 761, folio 113, page 24. There was also a son aged four called Frederick. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Newbies' Guide to Genealogy & Family History: www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks everyone for the suggestions!! ________________________________ From: Brian Binns <[email protected]> To: 'Susan Fowler' <[email protected]>; 'nottsgen' <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:51:57 AM Subject: RE: [NTT] Question on Find my past Susan, You will only find her Mother's maiden name and her father's name on her birth certificate or her marriage certificate, both of which have to be applied for and paid for. You can find these details in a roundabout way by using census returns and birth and marriage information either from Free BMD or by subscribing to one of the commercial companies - Find my Past, or Ancestry. You would also need one of these databases to look up census details. It all depends on  when your Eliza was born, and when and if she married, and to whom. Both the 1851 and 1861 censuses will give you either her parents forenames, their ages, and their place of birth, if she was still living with them. If she was married at that time, you will find her age, place of birth and the name of her husband. From this you could find a marriage. Don't forget that civil registration only came in from 1837, so as I have said, it all depends on her relative age as to whether or not her birth and/or marriage have been registered. Otherwise it is parish records and/or the I.G.I. From then on it is a question of searching records and building up the jigsaw puzzle. What you start with depends on Eliza's situation when she died. I have instances of ancestors dying in hospital with no next of kin recorded and the death being registered by the doctor. Often in these cases the age at the time of death is also a bit of a lottery. No doubt others on this list may well add more, or indeed correct me if I have got it a bit wrong. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Fowler Sent: 23 February 2012 15:11 To: nottsgen Subject: [NTT] Question on Find my past Good Morning Everyone, I have found a death on BMD for Eliza Crickmay 7 in the June Qrt 1866 Westminster, London If I take a subscription to Find My Past will it give me any other info like Mothers maiden name and Fathers name? Thanks Susan in Sunny Beaverton, Ontario                           http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4826 - Release Date: 02/22/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4826 - Release Date: 02/22/12 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4826 - Release Date: 02/22/12

Good Morning I have found a death for Eliza Crickmay on BMD June Qtr of 1866 If I take out a subscription for Find My Past will it give me more details? Like Mother & Father? Thanks Susan In Sunny Beaverton, Ontario

Good Morning Everyone, I have found a death on BMD for Eliza Crickmay 7 in the June Qrt 1866 Westminster, London If I take a subscription to Find My Past will it give me any other info like Mothers maiden name and Fathers name? Thanks Susan in Sunny Beaverton, Ontario                         http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for William Parr who married a Sarah in 1827.I have tried to find them on the 1841 census,found them at seperate addresses on the 1851 census and nothing on the 1861 census.I have 3 deaths in 1858,59,and 60 for William Parr.Does anyone have any info on Sarah,may have been born in Spondon,Derbyshire.Sarah's name might be Fell but am not sure.Tried ancestry with no joy at all.Are there any records available on line for Derbyshire? Thank you very much Rita Marshall

Hi All, I am looking for the baptism of Felix James WHITE sometime about 1807-11 in Nottinghamshire. What little I know is as follows: In 1841 he is aged 30+, a hairdresser, born in Nottinghamshire living with his wife, Caroline [nee AUCKLAND/OAKLAND] and daughter Isabella [Isabella Goodman WHITE] The Goodman name recurs frequently in later generations, but I don't know it's source. He probably died in 1844 [James WHITE 3Q 1844 Radford registration district volume 15 page 412] There is a death in the GRO indexes of another Felix James WHITE in Radford RD, but this is his son who died in November 1839 aged 7 months. The certificate said that he was the son of Felix James WHITE, a hair dresser of Pierrepont Street in Sneinton, Nottingham. In White's Directory of Nottingham 1832, there is a J. WHITE jnr, hairdresser in Pierrepont Street and a James WHITE snr combmaker also in Pierrepont Street. Could this be father and son? And if so, did he add the Felix part of his name himself? In 1851 his widow, Caroline (nee AUCKLAND/OAKLAND), is living with her mother-in-law, Ann WHITE, aged 66 from Grantham Lincolnshire So Felix/James' mother is Ann! And his father may be James Has anyone trod this path before and knows more about Felix? If not, can anyone give me some ideas on how to proceed. Rosemary Northumberland UK Email: [email protected] Family History: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rprobert/ Banburyshire Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Hi List members, I have resubbed after some time and would like to list my interests: Marriott-Sutton Bonnington Dewsbury-Sutton Bonnington Corbet-Sutton Bonnington Cheetham- Nottingham, St Mary's Straw-Stapleford Leivers-Greasley Paxton-Greasley Goddoard-Unknown, but married in Greasley Bostock-Greasley Chamberlain-Nottinghamshire White-East Leake Woodcock-East Leake Attenborough-Clifton, Ruddington and East Leake James-Sutton Bonnington Wootton-Sutton Bonnington Walker-Ruddington Spencer-Gotham Daye-Gotham Wilkinson-unknown Burgeis-unknown Hutchinson-unknown but married Sutton Bonnington Hulford-unknown but married Sutton Bonnington I would love to hear from anyone with an interest in any of these families. Margot Gladstone, QLD

Thanks for the help everyone,I will go and look at Rootsweb for the Gypsys, if I find anything I will let you all know! Shirley ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2012, 8:00 Subject: NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 55 Today's Topics:   1. Re: NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 50 (Nivard Ovington)   2. Re: NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 50 (John Hardy)   3. Hucknall Torkard baptism - can anyone look one up please?       (Lin 5481)   4. Skeletons ([email protected])   5. Hargreaves (Maxine)   6. Re: Mary Hartley m 1838 East Retford (Peter  R Booth)   7. Fw: ROLL CALL-Marriott, Dewsbury Corbet, Cheetham, Straw,       Leivers, Paxton, Goddard, Bostock, Chamberlain, White,    Woodcock,       Attenborough, James, Wootton, Walker, Spencer, Daye,    ilkinson,       Burgeis, Hutchinson, Hulford (Margo and Scott) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:36:25 -0000 From: "Nivard Ovington" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NTT] NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 50 To: "Frances Costello" <[email protected]>,    "Jean Wood"     <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original Your recollection is spot on Frances I have to say I did not think much of Tracy Emin before or after her show but having just watched a repeat of her episode I found it more enjoyable the second time around Likewise with Larry Lamb I did not think it was going to be very interesting (who is Larry Lamb was my question) but found it very good, that would be the one more relevant to Shirley I would say Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Jean & fellow listers > My recollection of the programs was :- > 1) Tracey Emin had a travellers background and > 2) Larry Lamb had travelling/circus connections > > Best wishes > Frances ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 17:47:33 -0000 From: "John Hardy" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NTT] NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 50 To: "Jean Wood" <[email protected]>,     <[email protected]>,    "Nottsgen" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original Shirley, Might be worth posting a request to rootsweb's Gypsy-genealogy message board:- http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.ethnic.gypsy/mb.ashx John Hardy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Wood" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "Nottsgen" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [NTT] NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 50 > > Thank you; you are of course absolutely right! > > So, apart from the BBC, Shirley could also try contacting those two people > and see whether either can directly, or indirectly, guide her to their > sources.....maybe even others, not mentioned on the programme. > > Jean Wood > > >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [NTT] NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 50 >> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 13:56:02 +0000 >> >> Hi Jean & fellow listers >> My recollection of the programs was :- >> 1) Tracey Emin had a travellers background and >> 2) Larry Lamb had travelling/circus connections >> >> Best wishes >> Frances ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 20:10:53 +0000 From: Lin 5481 <[email protected]> Subject: [NTT] Hucknall Torkard baptism - can anyone look one up     please? To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Trying to find the baptism of a George or George William - surnname may be LAMPLOUGH.  Mother's name Sarah Ann PEET or PEAT. He was born about 1882  in Hucknall Torkard- his birth isn't on GRO under LAMPLOUGH. Is there anyone who is going to the Archives, prepared to have a quick look for a baptism in Hucknall Torkard around 1882? I suspect that George wasn't the son of the person he appeared with on 1891 census, nor were his 'father' and his mother married (I believe he was still married to another). His brother Tom or John Thomas and his sister Elizabeth Ann don't appear on GRO although the two younger ones do. I have found I think George with his father in 1901 with the surname SMITH and his mother and sisters elsewhere in Derbyshire - also with the surname SMITH. So what surname he was born with is anyone's guess. Lin A true friend walks in when the world walks out                         ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:18:43 -0500 (EST) From: [email protected] Subject: [NTT] Skeletons To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I have a similar story. I was born in Nottingham, but now live in the USA. During a visit to the  UK a very kind NOTTSGEN subscriber offered to meet me at the Nottingham  Archives to help me to do some research. Incidentally we were both researching  the "HUMBER" surname, I was looking for the marriage between Mary Humber  & Samuel Wakefield, Brenda was researching the marriage between Ann Humber  & John Housley. To cut a long story short we found that we were in actual  fact second or third cousins. But despite intense research Brenda could not find  the Ann Humber & John Housley marriage. Then one day my cousin Stuart, still living in Nottingham, upon my request  e-mailed me his family details. As a note he mentioned our mutual twin cousins  the Housleys but spelled it HOWSLEY.  A light went on in my head and  yes I found the marriage between John HOWSLEY & Ann  UMBER. Nottingham dialect! Incidently, I also discovered that my Housley  cousins, my dad's sister's twins, are also related to me thru the John Housley  & Ann Humber tree. And yes I really enjoy my new found cousin and of course the NOTTSGEN web  site, my link to home. Carole Bell (Wakefield Sneinton, Nottingham) Colorado USA ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:57:24 -0600 From: Maxine <[email protected]> Subject: [NTT] Hargreaves To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi Jan Have you researched  your HARGREAVES line? Maxine >Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 >From: "Jan Hargreaves" <[email protected]> > >I stared my family history in 1981 and Mum and Dad were fascinated, we found >out that My paternal grandfather was illigitimate which didn't suprise Dad, >but when I told my Uncle his reaction was 'of course she was married, she >had THREE children'. I had great difficulty find out when my Gt Grandmother >died until we realised that she was buried under the name of the man she was >living with at the time (still unmarried) > >Jan ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 10:16:12 +1100 From: "Peter  R Booth" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NTT] Mary Hartley m 1838 East Retford To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original Wendy,     Family Search has four possibilities. I think East Markham is probably the closest.     But the only way to know for sure is to buy the marriage certificate from GRO.     I know buying lots of certificates gets expensive, but, if you're selective, it can sometimes save weeks of searching and cost of travel to research centres.     It depends how much you want the data.     Peter ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:11:48 +1000 From: "Margo and Scott" <[email protected]> Subject: [NTT] Fw: ROLL CALL-Marriott, Dewsbury Corbet, Cheetham,     Straw,    Leivers, Paxton, Goddard, Bostock, Chamberlain, White,     Woodcock, Attenborough, James, Wootton, Walker, Spencer, Daye,     ilkinson, Burgeis, Hutchinson, Hulford To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="iso-8859-1" Hi List members, I have resubbed after some time and would like to list my interests: Marriott-Sutton Bonnington Dewsbury-Sutton Bonnington Corbet-Sutton Bonnington Cheetham- Nottingham, St Mary's Straw-Stapleford Leivers-Greasley Paxton-Greasley Goddoard-Unknown, but married in Greasley Bostock-Greasley Chamberlain-Nottinghamshire White-East Leake Woodcock-East Leake Attenborough-Clifton, Ruddington and East Leake James-Sutton Bonnington Wootton-Sutton Bonnington Walker-Ruddington Spencer-Gotham Daye-Gotham Wilkinson-unknown Burgeis-unknown Hutchinson-unknown but married Sutton Bonnington Hulford-unknown but married Sutton Bonnington I would love to hear from anyone with an interest in any of these families. Margot Gladstone, QLD ------------------------------ End of NOTTSGEN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 55 ***************************************