I sent a thank you to Dai Bevan for his link to a site showing the stained glass window and copied it to the list. The message got through to him but the copy to the list gave rise to the following. I believe a similar instance was reported recently John Townend -----Original Message----- From: Mail Delivery Service Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 7:52 AM To: john.townend@o2.co.uk Subject: Delivery Status Notification - These recipients of your message have been processed by the mail server: nottsgen@rootsweb.com; Failed; 5.1.1 (bad destination mailbox address) Remote MTA mail.rootsweb.com: SMTP diagnostic: 550 5.7.1 <nottsgen@rootsweb.com>... Rejected: 82.132.130.150 listed at bl.spamcop.net

Hi list,  I'm looking to make contact with any descendants of HENRY MASON b. Nottm 1880 or his son, GEORGE MASON b. Nottm 1910.   Henry Mason was brother to my Grandmother, Harriet Mason, and hence my Gt Uncle.  He married ELIZABETH FREEMAN IN Nottingham IN 1909 and they had their first son, George, in Nottm in 1910.  The 1911 Census lists Henry as living at 2 Castle Court Houses, Nottingham and as a 'Cycle Hand' so he MAY have worked at the Raleigh Cycle Factory. It is possible that he died at 6 Nether Close, Cardale Road, Nottingham on 15th February, 1950.   Would love to hear from anyone connected to the above.  Best wishes.  Tony Burton

Mavis,     How nice to see my work quoted on a mailing list.  To give full credit you should have given the URL instead of pasting the text:     http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NTT/Mansfield/mansfield_PLU.html           Lou Mills ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 11:40:27 +0100 (BST) From: MAVIS JOHNSON <mayjaysomerset@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace - FULWOOD To: "NOTTSGEN@rootsweb.com" <NOTTSGEN@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:     <1378896027.63703.YahooMailNeo@web87704.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I was recently looking for a GOTHARD (corruption of GODDARD) whom I believe was related to my family, and he said he was born in ILKESTON By finding census from 1841 and other entries I find in fact he, and other relatives, said they were from? -snip-

There's an extra interest in this programme as Captain Frank Roberts was a Sherwood Forester . This says he was born in 1882 but doesn't tell us where .  http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01d0zrj/profiles/roberts

I was recently looking for a GOTHARD (corruption of GODDARD) whom I believe was related to my family, and he said he was born in ILKESTON By finding census from 1841 and other entries I find in fact he, and other relatives, said they were from  'Newton Moor' 'Newton in Blackwell', 'Blackwell by Alfreton' 'Blackwell, Derbyshire,' 'S. Normanton' and earlier from  Shirland,, Clowne with some marriages at Sutton in Ashfield I was confused and used google to find just where these places were. [When in doubt, when using census take a look at the Enumerator's route (page 1)  - these small hamlets have names which have been lost to general use.] I was born in Nottingham and the area which was then serviced by the "blue buses" was always a mystery to me and when I travelled through the area much later it was a mass of small colliery villages which seemed to merge into one another.  I am still confused when looking in the Ilkeston/Heanor/Codnor/Birchwood/Somercotes areas where some of my ancestors lived and worked.    Finding  good maps can help pinpoint the hamlets and villages. I eventually found this fuller explanation might help :    It shows Mansfield Poor Law Union and the areas covered. (including FULWOOD.) BLACKWELL "Poorhouses, Poor Law, etc.  After the Poor Law Amendment Act reforms of 1834, the Mansfield Poor Law Union was formed on 29 June 1836 to serve 17 local parishes in Nottingham and Derby shires. Since Mansfield, in the north of Nottinghamshire, was near the Derbyshire border, it made sense for it to serve both counties. Over time, new parishes were added to the Union.   It also made sense to the government to have the Poor Law Unions function as the administrative centres for Civil Registration and the Census enumeration. The Mansfield Poor Law Union was originally divided into five Registration Sub-Districts: Blackwell, Blidworth, Mansfield, Shirebrook and Warsop. The Blackwell subdistrict included the Derbyshire parishes of: Blackwell, Pinxton, South Normanton and Tibshelf. The Blidworth subdistrict included the Nottinghamshire parishes of: Blidworth, Haywood Oaks and Lindhurst. The Mansfield subdistrict included the Nottinghamshire parish of Mansfield. The Shirebrook subdistrict included the Derbyshire parishes of: Ault Hucknall, Glapwell, Pleasley, Scarcliffe, Shirebrook and Upper Langwith. It also included the Nottinghamshire parish of Teversal. The Warsop subdistrict included the Nottinghamshire parishes of: Mansfield Woodhouse, Sookholme and Warsop. Later additions to the union: Fulwood, Haywood Oaks, Lindhurst. In 1837, the new Mansfield Union workhouse was built on the south side of Stockwell Gate on Sutton road in the parish of Mansfield. It was opened for business in November, 1837. I have printed this off and put it with my maps so that in future I will find them more easily. Mavis in Somerset >________________________________ > From: Tony Proctor <tony@proctor.net> >To: Brian Binns <bnbinns@gmail.com>; 'WRIGHT PETER' <peter.wright15@ntlworld.com>; 'Mrs Watson' <familytree29@hotmail.com> >Cc: 'Notts Gen' <nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2013, 10:52 >Subject: Re: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace > > >Interestingly, in 1851 (Piece: 2123, Folio: 259,  Page: 4) there is no >place-of-birth given for Mary, and the others are down as Blackwell, Derbys. > >    Tony Proctor > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Brian Binns" <bnbinns@gmail.com> >To: "'WRIGHT PETER'" <peter.wright15@ntlworld.com>; "'Mrs Watson'" ><familytree29@hotmail.com> >Cc: "'Notts Gen'" <nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:24 AM >Subject: Re: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace > > >>I too thought of ilson, being the local pronunciation of Ilkeston But the >> enumerator put Notts not Derbys, and the entry could be Hellson, rather >> than >> Hillson. This coupled with the fact that Selston is quite near Fulwood led >> me to that conclusion. The poster needs to find the marriage, then with >> her >> maiden name can hopefully find the Christening place. >> >> Brian >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of WRIGHT PETER >> Sent: 11 September 2013 09:40 >> To: Mrs Watson >> Cc: Notts Gen >> Subject: Re: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace >> >> Hi, >> >> Fulwood, Notts as been said is a place on the Derbyshire border near >> Sutton-in-Ashfield, Notts. >> >> With regard to Hellson, I would have thought in the local accent as this >> being 'Ilson'. or 'normal' folk know it as Ilkeston, Derbys. >> >> regards >> Pete in Mansfield >> >> >> On 10 September 2013 21:49, Mrs Watson <familytree29@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> HelloI am trying to figure out a place of birth according to the 1861 >>> census: >>> Mary BALL born about 1808 in Notts - it looks like Hellson to me but I >>> can't find that on a map.  Would someone with a much better knowledge >>> of Notts be able to suggest anything? >>> Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 2425; Folio: 32; Page: 6; GSU roll: >>> 542969. >>> The 1871 census for Mary gives her place of birth as Fullwood, which I >>> can't seem to find either, although it sounds familiar!ThanksJanie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Notts Surname List >>> >>> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> Notts Surname List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> Notts Surname List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >Notts Surname List > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I'm looking forward to viewing Wipers Times as well.  My Mother and Father were both in their teens during this war; my Father being a young Stretcher Bearer in France from 1916 onwards.  Although I also enjoyed the satire of Black Adder (a brilliant ending to the series) I still think the best satire about World War One was Richard Attenborough's film "Oh what a lovely War" .  More so because much of the script was based on words actually spoken by the main movers.   For anyone interested in this part of our history I would also recommend a brilliantly written book "The Testament of Youth" by Vera Brittain (Mother of the politician, Shirley Williams) aptly described as 'A Haunting elegy for a lost generation'  Vera Brittain makes the point that as well as those killed, the whole generation effectively lost it's youth. Tony Burton.

Yes I noticed that. However one of the children, Eliza aged 13, is recorded as being born in Mansfield, Notts, whereas all the rest were born in Blackwell, Derbys. Did Mary go "home" for that birth? Detailed checking of the enumerators handwriting on the 1861 census shows Mary's birthplace definitely begins with an "H" and also highlights that he (presumably, he) dots his "I"s, therefore leading me to believe that the second letter is indeed an "e". So "Hellson" for Selston? Who knows? Brian -----Original Message----- From: Tony Proctor [mailto:tony@proctor.net] Sent: 11 September 2013 10:53 To: Brian Binns; 'WRIGHT PETER'; 'Mrs Watson' Cc: 'Notts Gen' Subject: Re: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace Interestingly, in 1851 (Piece: 2123, Folio: 259, Page: 4) there is no place-of-birth given for Mary, and the others are down as Blackwell, Derbys. Tony Proctor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Binns" <bnbinns@gmail.com> To: "'WRIGHT PETER'" <peter.wright15@ntlworld.com>; "'Mrs Watson'" <familytree29@hotmail.com> Cc: "'Notts Gen'" <nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace >I too thought of ilson, being the local pronunciation of Ilkeston But the > enumerator put Notts not Derbys, and the entry could be Hellson, rather > than > Hillson. This coupled with the fact that Selston is quite near Fulwood led > me to that conclusion. The poster needs to find the marriage, then with > her > maiden name can hopefully find the Christening place. > > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of WRIGHT PETER > Sent: 11 September 2013 09:40 > To: Mrs Watson > Cc: Notts Gen > Subject: Re: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace > > Hi, > > Fulwood, Notts as been said is a place on the Derbyshire border near > Sutton-in-Ashfield, Notts. > > With regard to Hellson, I would have thought in the local accent as this > being 'Ilson'. or 'normal' folk know it as Ilkeston, Derbys. > > regards > Pete in Mansfield > > > On 10 September 2013 21:49, Mrs Watson <familytree29@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> HelloI am trying to figure out a place of birth according to the 1861 >> census: >> Mary BALL born about 1808 in Notts - it looks like Hellson to me but I >> can't find that on a map. Would someone with a much better knowledge >> of Notts be able to suggest anything? >> Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 2425; Folio: 32; Page: 6; GSU roll: >> 542969. >> The 1871 census for Mary gives her place of birth as Fullwood, which I >> can't seem to find either, although it sounds familiar!ThanksJanie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Notts Surname List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Interestingly, in 1851 (Piece: 2123, Folio: 259, Page: 4) there is no place-of-birth given for Mary, and the others are down as Blackwell, Derbys. Tony Proctor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Binns" <bnbinns@gmail.com> To: "'WRIGHT PETER'" <peter.wright15@ntlworld.com>; "'Mrs Watson'" <familytree29@hotmail.com> Cc: "'Notts Gen'" <nottsgen-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace >I too thought of ilson, being the local pronunciation of Ilkeston But the > enumerator put Notts not Derbys, and the entry could be Hellson, rather > than > Hillson. This coupled with the fact that Selston is quite near Fulwood led > me to that conclusion. The poster needs to find the marriage, then with > her > maiden name can hopefully find the Christening place. > > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of WRIGHT PETER > Sent: 11 September 2013 09:40 > To: Mrs Watson > Cc: Notts Gen > Subject: Re: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace > > Hi, > > Fulwood, Notts as been said is a place on the Derbyshire border near > Sutton-in-Ashfield, Notts. > > With regard to Hellson, I would have thought in the local accent as this > being 'Ilson'. or 'normal' folk know it as Ilkeston, Derbys. > > regards > Pete in Mansfield > > > On 10 September 2013 21:49, Mrs Watson <familytree29@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> HelloI am trying to figure out a place of birth according to the 1861 >> census: >> Mary BALL born about 1808 in Notts - it looks like Hellson to me but I >> can't find that on a map. Would someone with a much better knowledge >> of Notts be able to suggest anything? >> Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 2425; Folio: 32; Page: 6; GSU roll: >> 542969. >> The 1871 census for Mary gives her place of birth as Fullwood, which I >> can't seem to find either, although it sounds familiar!ThanksJanie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Notts Surname List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Roy, I also was thinking of Blackadder goes forth, but perhaps The Wipers Times will confirm the old adage, truth being stranger than fiction. I accept it might not be as funny as BAGF but just knowing that it was factual will add appeal. Sarah Millican is a female comedian from Newcastle who I thought quite funny when she first broke through, but on her late night shows recently I'm afraid she uses too many expletives for my liking. I'm not a prude but the F word every other sentence, especially from a woman, is not my idea of comedy. I'll still watch it though just for Family History purposes. Brian -----Original Message----- From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of roy.stockdill@btinternet.com Sent: 11 September 2013 10:24 To: NOTTSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NTT] "The Wipers Times" From: "Brian Binns" <bnbinns@gmail.com> > There is a "must watch" programme on BBC 2 tonight that should > interest anyone who had an ancestor involved in The Great War - and > that must be most of us. I can do no better than reproduce the preview > from today's Daily Telegraph.> It does indeed sound very good from the preview blurbs and, as it's the longer of the two competing programmes at 9.0 p.m. I shall probably watch The Wipers Times and record WDYTYA?, since I have only a vague idea of who the subject, Sarah Millican, is, never having seen her. However, Wipers Times will have to be pretty darned good to beat the black humour and mickey-taking of the top brass in WWI of Blackadder Goes Forth, which I never cease to watch again and again! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: "Brian Binns" <bnbinns@gmail.com> > There is a "must watch" programme on BBC 2 tonight that should interest > anyone who had an ancestor involved in The Great War - and that must be most > of us. I can do no better than reproduce the preview from today's Daily > Telegraph.> It does indeed sound very good from the preview blurbs and, as it's the longer of the two competing programmes at 9.0 p.m. I shall probably watch The Wipers Times and record WDYTYA?, since I have only a vague idea of who the subject, Sarah Millican, is, never having seen her. However, Wipers Times will have to be pretty darned good to beat the black humour and mickey-taking of the top brass in WWI of Blackadder Goes Forth, which I never cease to watch again and again! -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

I too thought of ilson, being the local pronunciation of Ilkeston But the enumerator put Notts not Derbys, and the entry could be Hellson, rather than Hillson. This coupled with the fact that Selston is quite near Fulwood led me to that conclusion. The poster needs to find the marriage, then with her maiden name can hopefully find the Christening place. Brian -----Original Message----- From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of WRIGHT PETER Sent: 11 September 2013 09:40 To: Mrs Watson Cc: Notts Gen Subject: Re: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace Hi, Fulwood, Notts as been said is a place on the Derbyshire border near Sutton-in-Ashfield, Notts. With regard to Hellson, I would have thought in the local accent as this being 'Ilson'. or 'normal' folk know it as Ilkeston, Derbys. regards Pete in Mansfield On 10 September 2013 21:49, Mrs Watson <familytree29@hotmail.com> wrote: > HelloI am trying to figure out a place of birth according to the 1861 > census: > Mary BALL born about 1808 in Notts - it looks like Hellson to me but I > can't find that on a map. Would someone with a much better knowledge > of Notts be able to suggest anything? > Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 2425; Folio: 32; Page: 6; GSU roll: > 542969. > The 1871 census for Mary gives her place of birth as Fullwood, which I > can't seem to find either, although it sounds familiar!ThanksJanie > > > > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Fulwood, Notts as been said is a place on the Derbyshire border near Sutton-in-Ashfield, Notts. With regard to Hellson, I would have thought in the local accent as this being 'Ilson'. or 'normal' folk know it as Ilkeston, Derbys. regards Pete in Mansfield On 10 September 2013 21:49, Mrs Watson <familytree29@hotmail.com> wrote: > HelloI am trying to figure out a place of birth according to the 1861 > census: > Mary BALL born about 1808 in Notts - it looks like Hellson to me but I > can't find that on a map. Would someone with a much better knowledge of > Notts be able to suggest anything? > Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 2425; Folio: 32; Page: 6; GSU roll: > 542969. > The 1871 census for Mary gives her place of birth as Fullwood, which I > can't seem to find either, although it sounds familiar!ThanksJanie > > > > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Brian Good job some of us have iplayer isn't it, what a shame for those that don't What clot at the BBC thought scheduling WDYTYA and Wipers Times at the same time tonight was a good idea ? Because people interested in history or genealogy wouldn't want to watch both would they? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 11/09/2013 08:52, Brian Binns wrote: > There is a "must watch" programme on BBC 2 tonight that should interest > anyone who had an ancestor involved in The Great War - and that must be most > of us. I can do no better than reproduce the preview from today's Daily > Telegraph. > > > > "We are in danger of being deafened by declarations that we're living > through a golden age of long-form TV drama, but here's a rare one-off that > can hold its head up among the very best. A drama that in production is > modest even by BBC Two standards but which, with a fabulous subject, a > scintillating script, and a wonderful cast, manages to be bitingly funny and

There is a "must watch" programme on BBC 2 tonight that should interest anyone who had an ancestor involved in The Great War - and that must be most of us. I can do no better than reproduce the preview from today's Daily Telegraph. "We are in danger of being deafened by declarations that we're living through a golden age of long-form TV drama, but here's a rare one-off that can hold its head up among the very best. A drama that in production is modest even by BBC Two standards but which, with a fabulous subject, a scintillating script, and a wonderful cast, manages to be bitingly funny and achingly poignant at the same time. The story - as befits a drama written by Private Eye editor Ian Hislop and his longtime collaborator Nick Newman - is of a satirical news sheet; one that was miraculously published in the living hell of the front line during the First World War by soldiers determined to wring humour from the alternating horror and boredom of life in the trenches. Ben Chapman is terrific as the mordantly amusing Captain Fred Roberts who, together with his subaltern, Lieutenant, Jack Pearson (Julian Rhind-Tutt), stumbles upon a printing press in a bombed out office in the Belgian town of Ypres (pronounced "Wipers" by the troops) in 1916 and decides it's an "ideal opportunity to poke acerbic fun at the top brass and the absurdity of war generally. The power of gallows humour is brilliantly conveyed through comic verse, absurd adverts and arch editorials, and the comfort of laughing in the face of death is captured in chillingly surreal song and dance numbers. Michael Palin also puts in a nice cameo as one of the few commanding officer who, crucially, got the joke." Ian Hislop was on BBC radio 2 yesterday saying that the drama is absolutely faithful to actual events, declaring that some of the humour would not be out of place in some of today's satirical portrayals. Unfortunately I am out but will watch it on I-Player later. Brian Binns

This had me intrigued. I knew of street names in Nottingham using the name "Fulwood" but had never heard of it as a place. Looking it up I found it to be an extra parochial liberty 6 miles south west of Mansfield, Nottinghamshire. A tip - always try Google!! See this link http://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Fulwood,_Nottinghamshire#Church_record s Given the above the nearest place I could find that roughly matched the census entry of "Hillson" is Selston. I am not an expert on how the censuses were written up but it could be that the enumerator made notes and copied it incorrectly on the submitted form. Also many people put their birthplace on one census, then their Christening place on the next - just to confuse us! The Family Search site listed above is the old LDS site and this will lead you to the IGI, and if you know her maiden name you may find her christening there, also her marriage. Good searching. Brian Binns -----Original Message----- From: nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nottsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mrs Watson Sent: 10 September 2013 21:49 To: Notts Gen Subject: [NTT] Help with reading a birthplace HelloI am trying to figure out a place of birth according to the 1861 census: Mary BALL born about 1808 in Notts - it looks like Hellson to me but I can't find that on a map. Would someone with a much better knowledge of Notts be able to suggest anything? Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 2425; Folio: 32; Page: 6; GSU roll: 542969. The 1871 census for Mary gives her place of birth as Fullwood, which I can't seem to find either, although it sounds familiar!ThanksJanie Notts Surname List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thewindow is pictured on FLickr, John: http://www.flickr.com/photos/33201287@N00/4702912358/in/photolist-8azDZQ Dai On 10/09/2013 20:45, John Townend wrote: > I discovered by accident from the Church’s website that my grandfather, John Francis TOWNEND, had donated a stained glass window to St Nicholas’s Church to give thanks for the return of two of his sons from the First World War. My attempts to email the Church for further information have either bounced or gone unanswered. Can any kind person on the list help with this quest, preferably with a photograph (or possible source thereof) of the window and any plaque, etc. Thanks in advance > John Townend >

Janie, According to Genuki's list of Notts parishes, the only parish with -son- is Misson. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NTT/parishes.html Dai On 10/09/2013 21:49, Mrs Watson wrote: > HelloI am trying to figure out a place of birth according to the 1861 census: > Mary BALL born about 1808 in Notts - it looks like Hellson to me but I can't find that on a map. Would someone with a much better knowledge of Notts be able to suggest anything? > Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 2425; Folio: 32; Page: 6; GSU roll: 542969. > The 1871 census for Mary gives her place of birth as Fullwood, which I can't seem to find either, although it sounds familiar!ThanksJanie > > > > > > > Notts Surname List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/notts.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOTTSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks to those who replied. Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. My computer is telling me that the message cannot be sent as the address isn't valid. It's the same address that I've always used and it is in my address book. It is the one shown on the introdutory page of the NOTTSGEN List and I tried it both directly from my address book and manually. I've tried again this evening but nothing works. So I'm mystified. If no one else is having trouble then it must be that my computer has got the hump - or something similar! In which case I shall have to get a man in ... Ruth

HelloI am trying to figure out a place of birth according to the 1861 census: Mary BALL born about 1808 in Notts - it looks like Hellson to me but I can't find that on a map. Would someone with a much better knowledge of Notts be able to suggest anything? Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 2425; Folio: 32; Page: 6; GSU roll: 542969. The 1871 census for Mary gives her place of birth as Fullwood, which I can't seem to find either, although it sounds familiar!ThanksJanie

I discovered by accident from the Church’s website that my grandfather, John Francis TOWNEND, had donated a stained glass window to St Nicholas’s Church to give thanks for the return of two of his sons from the First World War. My attempts to email the Church for further information have either bounced or gone unanswered. Can any kind person on the list help with this quest, preferably with a photograph (or possible source thereof) of the window and any plaque, etc. Thanks in advance John Townend