Dear List, I can't think of everything at once. I forgot to mention you can order the test for someone else. Say you are interested and are a daughter or a cousin and the Norwood male close you isn't interested in spending the money but you are willing to pay for him. Of course you can send him the money but then he would have to apply and maybe doesn't want to be bothered. You can fill in the order with his name and address and pay for it. The kit will be sent to him. He swabs inside his cheeks with the Q-tip, puts it in the bottles and mails it. You can even have all the results sent to you. You can give 2 email addresses so that when the results are first emailed to you, you can see them on the web site also. you get an order ID and password. I didn't tell you about the Y-dna databases you can join, or my DNA results to show you what they look like, subjects for another day ! Got to get back to work. jim dempsey