THANK YOU!!!! I appreciate your response....now to dig some more and figure out who is who. Again....I appreciate your effort and response. it sure helps us that don't know which direction they are going. JoRetta ----- Original Message ----- From: barnes-herbert<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] Northern Norwoods JoRetta go to the below website, click on william and then go to generation 6. Go down to George Norwood b. 1735 Northampton Co., NC. Moses is one of Geo's children. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4805/tnfpexp.htm<http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4805/tnfpexp.htm> H Barnes ----- Original Message ----- From: JoRetta Lewis To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] Northern Norwoods Ms. Lucy: Please accept my apologies for butting in. Do you have any data on a Moses Norwood who would have been in Northampton, North Carolina in the early 1800's? I do not have his birth or parental data. He did marry, twice we think, We think his son, Peter A. Norwood born about 1812 and his daughter, Mary Elizabeth Norwood born About 1816, both in Northampton, NC., were by his first wife, Penelope ? ( last name unknown.) Mary E. Norwood married John Mangum Branch 4 Sept. 1838 . Their first two children, Littleburg H. C. Branch and John Harrison Branch were born in Northampton, NC in 1839 and 1841. The family would then migrate into Tennessee where they remained until the 1850's when they moved into Panola County Mississippi. I know a little about them from that point but am seeking to learn more about their parentage and ancestors as far back as I can find. do you have any suggestions? Wishing you a speedy recovery with your knee replacement I remain, sincerely, JoRetta Lewis ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Judice To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] George Washington Norwood, 1796-1850 A copy of William Norwood's portrait can be found at the Norwood Family Page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4805/tnfpexp.htm Click on William in the menu at the very top of the page. If you have never visited this site before, please check it out. It is an outstanding source of Norwood information. Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lucy Gray Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] George Washington Norwood, 1796-1850 I have tried to e-mail you the picture of William Norwood of Leckhampton Court, Leckhampton, Gloucershire, England. As stated before it hangs in the public library of Leckhampton. The manor home is now a Sue Ryder home for cancer patients. However, they will let you visit. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: chgode To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] George Washington Norwood, 1796-1850 No I have not seen the picture you are speaking of. I do have a picture or two of my Norwoods but not that far back. Where is this place located? Charlene ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

JoRetta go to the below website, click on william and then go to generation 6. Go down to George Norwood b. 1735 Northampton Co., NC. Moses is one of Geo's children. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4805/tnfpexp.htm H Barnes ----- Original Message ----- From: JoRetta Lewis To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] Northern Norwoods Ms. Lucy: Please accept my apologies for butting in. Do you have any data on a Moses Norwood who would have been in Northampton, North Carolina in the early 1800's? I do not have his birth or parental data. He did marry, twice we think, We think his son, Peter A. Norwood born about 1812 and his daughter, Mary Elizabeth Norwood born About 1816, both in Northampton, NC., were by his first wife, Penelope ? ( last name unknown.) Mary E. Norwood married John Mangum Branch 4 Sept. 1838 . Their first two children, Littleburg H. C. Branch and John Harrison Branch were born in Northampton, NC in 1839 and 1841. The family would then migrate into Tennessee where they remained until the 1850's when they moved into Panola County Mississippi. I know a little about them from that point but am seeking to learn more about their parentage and ancestors as far back as I can find. do you have any suggestions? Wishing you a speedy recovery with your knee replacement I remain, sincerely, JoRetta Lewis ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A copy of William Norwood's portrait can be found at the Norwood Family Page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4805/tnfpexp.htm Click on William in the menu at the very top of the page. If you have never visited this site before, please check it out. It is an outstanding source of Norwood information. Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lucy Gray Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 10:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] George Washington Norwood, 1796-1850 I have tried to e-mail you the picture of William Norwood of Leckhampton Court, Leckhampton, Gloucershire, England. As stated before it hangs in the public library of Leckhampton. The manor home is now a Sue Ryder home for cancer patients. However, they will let you visit. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: chgode To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] George Washington Norwood, 1796-1850 No I have not seen the picture you are speaking of. I do have a picture or two of my Norwoods but not that far back. Where is this place located? Charlene ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have tried to e-mail you the picture of William Norwood of Leckhampton Court, Leckhampton, Gloucershire, England. As stated before it hangs in the public library of Leckhampton. The manor home is now a Sue Ryder home for cancer patients. However, they will let you visit. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: chgode To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] George Washington Norwood, 1796-1850 No I have not seen the picture you are speaking of. I do have a picture or two of my Norwoods but not that far back. Where is this place located? Charlene ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No I have not seen the picture you are speaking of. I do have a picture or two of my Norwoods but not that far back. Where is this place located? Charlene ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091

I have a picture of one of our Norwood ancestors back in the 1500's I think. The actual painting hangs in the city library in Leckhampton the place of the manor home, Leckhampton Court. Have you seen it? Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: chgode To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] George Washington Norwood, 1796-1850 Thanks alot for your help on the book. Do you happen to have any Norwood pictures? I have a gg-gf John Washington Norwood 1838-1910 Monroe Co AL. Charlene Charlene ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'll get my books out soon and answer the questions if possible. I'm so sorry all you were not asking these questions when Mr. Cecil Bauer of Jackson, Mississippi was doing a great job researching and putting the information in the computer. He was a retired AT&T engineer. He sent me copies of the material he printed out but I have downsized, as stated before, and didn't keep everything. When I'm up to it I'll check. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: JoRetta Lewis To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] Northern Norwoods Ms. Lucy: Please accept my apologies for butting in. Do you have any data on a Moses Norwood who would have been in Northampton, North Carolina in the early 1800's? I do not have his birth or parental data. He did marry, twice we think, We think his son, Peter A. Norwood born about 1812 and his daughter, Mary Elizabeth Norwood born About 1816, both in Northampton, NC., were by his first wife, Penelope ? ( last name unknown.) Mary E. Norwood married John Mangum Branch 4 Sept. 1838 . Their first two children, Littleburg H. C. Branch and John Harrison Branch were born in Northampton, NC in 1839 and 1841. The family would then migrate into Tennessee where they remained until the 1850's when they moved into Panola County Mississippi. I know a little about them from that point but am seeking to learn more about their parentage and ancestors as far back as I can find. do you have any suggestions? Wishing you a speedy recovery with your knee replacement I remain, sincerely, JoRetta Lewis ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ms. Lucy: Please accept my apologies for butting in. Do you have any data on a Moses Norwood who would have been in Northampton, North Carolina in the early 1800's? I do not have his birth or parental data. He did marry, twice we think, We think his son, Peter A. Norwood born about 1812 and his daughter, Mary Elizabeth Norwood born About 1816, both in Northampton, NC., were by his first wife, Penelope ? ( last name unknown.) Mary E. Norwood married John Mangum Branch 4 Sept. 1838 . Their first two children, Littleburg H. C. Branch and John Harrison Branch were born in Northampton, NC in 1839 and 1841. The family would then migrate into Tennessee where they remained until the 1850's when they moved into Panola County Mississippi. I know a little about them from that point but am seeking to learn more about their parentage and ancestors as far back as I can find. do you have any suggestions? Wishing you a speedy recovery with your knee replacement I remain, sincerely, JoRetta Lewis

If you are interested in the "Little River Pioneers", it was printed by Collier Printing Company 409 Cherokee Street Kingsport, TN 37660 I bought my copy directly from Miles Womack several years ago, but I don't think I still have his mailing or email address. I will search my files and see if I can find any information Sarah. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of chgode Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 8:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] George Washington Norwood, 1796-1850 Does anyone know how I can purchase a book on the Norwoods from South Carolina to AL? Thanks Charlene ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks alot for your help on the book. Do you happen to have any Norwood pictures? I have a gg-gf John Washington Norwood 1838-1910 Monroe Co AL. Charlene Charlene ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html

My Norwoods came to Texas from Mississippi, and lived in the Fort Worth area - late 1800s. Anyone looking for them can contact me. I have history on them and the Rendon Community where they were buried. WLP Norwood, his mother and his grown children. Also his brother Jim Norwood. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mildred Couch To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator I am not much of a researcher but the 1850 census of San Augustine Co TX show my g-g-g-grandfather William Coleson Norwood age 55, came to TX with wife Eliza Wade LeGrand 43, and children Hampton 17, Thomas15, James LeGrand 12 (was my g-g-grandfather, Eliza 10, Adaline 7, Sarah 5, and child Edwin O. was born in TX. All except Edwin born in NC. William Coleson came to TX with Edwin O LeGrand (Eliza's brother) to fight for the TX Independance from Mexico. TX won Independance from Mexico in 1836 so my question is where was his family from 1836 to first time they shows up on San Augustine County Property Tax Roll in 1848. On the 1880 census he is still living,,,,,he is 86 and has 38 year old wife.???? He was granted a section of land for his services to TX. My guess is from the following records they were traveling.....or traveled so far and waited for his return. Can anyone help here? On Cemetery records his father is listed as Thomas Norwood and mother as Jame Coleson. He was born 11 Oct 1794 and died 27 June 1885. Child Amanda Norwood age 20 married around 1849 a Charles W. Crouch. They also came to TX. Their children are John 18 born TN, William 16 born TN, Elizabeth 13, born MS, Lucretia 4 born TX, and Martha 2 born TX. But as you can see John, William, and Elizabeth could not possibly be Amanda's children from ages. Lucretia and Martha could be 2nd wife's but I don't know for sure. Then since record show Amanda as his 3rd wife I personally don't feel as if any of these children could be Amanda's. First was _____ Brown, 2nd was a Martha A Smith he either married in 1844 or she died in 1844, Third is Amanda M. Norwood who supposed to have married in 1849 and this is 1850 census'. Am I wrong? The 1850 San Augustine Co TX census records show a Laura Emma Norwood 24 married to a John Jacob Carswell age 27 born NC. In the 1850 census their children are William age 4 born in TX and Edwin age 2 born in TX. Also on the 1850 census is listed a Catharine Norwood Ware age 38 born in SC. She is a widow of Nimrod W. Ware, Sr. with children Louisa 14 born in AL, James E. 13, born in TN, Theophilus 11 born in TX, Frances 1 born in TX. Is she William sister, daughter, or cousin? Can any of you help? I still live in the same community where he settled and had always know this land in the beginning was his but as a 60 year old woman I began to get interested in the family genealogy. The decendance for a few years named children all the same so its hard to keep them seperated for me. Lucy Gray <[email protected]> wrote: Dale, If you ever pass through Pensacola I would be glad for you to copy what I have. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Norwood To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator I have two of his books. One is the "Edward Norwood, Son of William of Surry, Va, Documentation" and the other is "The South Carolina Norwood Tradition, A Thesis Edward Norwood, Theophilus I Norwood, Theophilus II Norwood, Volume 6" I wish I could get a copy of the rest of his work. He is very thorough. Dale -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lucy Gray Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator Dale, Do you have a copy of all the work Mr. Bauer printed out? At one time he copied all the research of the early Norwood researchers. That would have the addresses of those connections in Texas. I'm sorry I "downsized" too soon. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Norwood To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator I think Billie Brem is a Norwood researcher who lives in Texas and traced the Norwood's there. She helped me out a lot early on in my research. I haven't contacted her in several years so I am not sure if she is still there. I will look through my stack of contacts and try to get you a contact email. Dale Norwood -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lucy Gray Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator Mildred, At one time there were several Norwood descendants researching the family in Texas. I had a copy of some their research at one time but I'm afraid I may have disposed of it during a moved. One of the ladies was from Houston. It may be several weeks before I'll be up to pulling out papers. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Mildred Couch To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator best wishes Lucy with you surgery.... I am interested in anyone who has any info on William Coleson Norwood, who came to San Augustine Co TX. He is my ggg grandfather....twice....He is a ggg grandfather on both my mother and daddy's side of the family. My mother and dad were 3 cousins...so you see why it is so important to me to find out all I can.... I am trying to connect My Norwood's to William, the Immigrant....Can anyone help.... Lucy Gray wrote: Richard, Thank you for your note. I appreciate your update. I'm still interested in finding out anything new about my Norwood ancestors after almost 50 years of researching them. I hope one of these days the family in join others and form a Norwood Family DNA research. I have had good luck in the DNA testing of the Daniel, Langley, and Callaway lines. I'll be out of pocket after Friday for about 4 weeks with a knee replacement at the age of 75. Best wishes to all for 2007. Lucy Gray ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Norwood To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 8:04 AM Subject: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator Happy New Year everyone! I am not a very communicative administrator and our list has very little traffic, but we have held on all these years and if anyone wants to post to our Norwood research community, we are here. Recently, we had news of a painting commissioned to depict Richard Norwood surveying Bermuda, and after looking at the artist's work, I am excited about seeing the new painting. Also, a novel published this year, Chase, by William Allison, tells the story of George Chase, who marries Harriet Norwood, daughter of William and Deborah Winslow Norwood of Camden, Maine. William is a descendant of Joshua Norwood, III, of Mount Desert, Maine. I have begun reading the novel and will try to review it later. I'm only nine chapters into the story. I think Allison has done a great job on chapters 8 & 9. His description is very strong, as is his research of the context for his story. Both of these things were announced on this list in 2006. I hope you will all stay with the list and be available for research questions and continue to receive notices of new and interesting things related to our Norwood surname. I have updated the Norwood Family Page (I know it's been static for some time.), adding information about /Chase /and some notes about Jordanus de Sheppey and King Harold II. I just picked up and am reading /1066, The Year of the Conquest/, by David Howarth, and published in 1981 by Penguin Books. It's a page-turner, small, 200 pages, very nicely written. When you read it, you feel that England before the conquest was a special place indeed, almost idyllic. You can even see the seeds of democracy already planted and rooting, though many centuries will pass before they fully sprout. Another book about Harold that I enjoyed very much is /Harold, The Last Anglo-Saxon King/, by Ian W. Walker, published in 1997 by Sutton Publishing, Ltd. It is very detailed, thorough, and also nicely written with maps, charts, pictures, bibliography, and copious notes. Of course, since it can't be proved that the Norwoods stem from the Godwin family through Harold, these books have to satisfy our interest in a significant juncture in English history, not necessarily our origins. For some reason, although I have come to understand this, Harold still holds a special place in my mind and heart. Well, may you all have a wonderful 2007! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Take time to smile. God Bless Ya!!!! 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No, I have no further information. As it turned out, that was only for one state, I think it was Maryland NOrwoods. Since I don't know of any ties I have there, I didn't keep the message. It was good to hear from you and I would like to continue my search using your information. I kind of got away from the Norwood lineage and into my Campbell ancestoral search so I would have to do some digging. Thanks, Joyce Chandler

I am one of the Texas Norwoods. My ancestor who came to Texas was: George Washington Norwood, b. 4 Jun 1796 in SC, d. 20 Apr 1850 in Gonzales, TX Married Sarah A. Lewis, b. 3 Jan 1800 in GA, d. 29 Mar 1865 in Gonzales, TX It is thought that G.W. and Sarah Norwood lived in Butler Co, Ala. between 1820-1832. After 1832 they then moved to Gadsden Co, Ala. and remained there for about 4 years. He sold his property in Early Co. in 1843 and moved on to Mississippi where they were to stay 7 years. "It was the first of January, 1850. This caravan of home-seekers was from Yalobusha Co. Miss. and had come by boat from New Orleans to Indianola and thence to Gonzales by wagons, drawn by oxen, mules and horses. In this party of new comers was the Norwood family, Nations, Aycocks, Parramores and Dilworths." I think he was the son of George Norwood who was born 25 Apr 1755 and died abt 1796 who possibly married an Indian woman Mrs. Womack. His parents may have been William and Ruth Wyche Norwood, but I do not have proof of this. Does anyone have any knowledge of my George Washington Norwood's ancestors? Have you read the book "Little River Pioneers" by Nina Watson Cottrell, Thomas Ray Knox and Miles Kenan Womack, Jr? Thank you for any help, Sarah Langford Hardy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lucy Gray Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 9:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator Dale, If you ever pass through Pensacola I would be glad for you to copy what I have. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Norwood To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator I have two of his books. One is the "Edward Norwood, Son of William of Surry, Va, Documentation" and the other is "The South Carolina Norwood Tradition, A Thesis Edward Norwood, Theophilus I Norwood, Theophilus II Norwood, Volume 6" I wish I could get a copy of the rest of his work. He is very thorough. Dale -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lucy Gray Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator Dale, Do you have a copy of all the work Mr. Bauer printed out? At one time he copied all the research of the early Norwood researchers. That would have the addresses of those connections in Texas. I'm sorry I "downsized" too soon. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Norwood To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator I think Billie Brem is a Norwood researcher who lives in Texas and traced the Norwood's there. She helped me out a lot early on in my research. I haven't contacted her in several years so I am not sure if she is still there. I will look through my stack of contacts and try to get you a contact email. Dale Norwood -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lucy Gray Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator Mildred, At one time there were several Norwood descendants researching the family in Texas. I had a copy of some their research at one time but I'm afraid I may have disposed of it during a moved. One of the ladies was from Houston. It may be several weeks before I'll be up to pulling out papers. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Mildred Couch To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator best wishes Lucy with you surgery.... I am interested in anyone who has any info on William Coleson Norwood, who came to San Augustine Co TX. He is my ggg grandfather....twice....He is a ggg grandfather on both my mother and daddy's side of the family. My mother and dad were 3 cousins...so you see why it is so important to me to find out all I can.... I am trying to connect My Norwood's to William, the Immigrant....Can anyone help.... Lucy Gray <[email protected]> wrote: Richard, Thank you for your note. I appreciate your update. I'm still interested in finding out anything new about my Norwood ancestors after almost 50 years of researching them. I hope one of these days the family in join others and form a Norwood Family DNA research. I have had good luck in the DNA testing of the Daniel, Langley, and Callaway lines. I'll be out of pocket after Friday for about 4 weeks with a knee replacement at the age of 75. Best wishes to all for 2007. Lucy Gray ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Norwood To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 8:04 AM Subject: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator Happy New Year everyone! I am not a very communicative administrator and our list has very little traffic, but we have held on all these years and if anyone wants to post to our Norwood research community, we are here. Recently, we had news of a painting commissioned to depict Richard Norwood surveying Bermuda, and after looking at the artist's work, I am excited about seeing the new painting. Also, a novel published this year, Chase, by William Allison, tells the story of George Chase, who marries Harriet Norwood, daughter of William and Deborah Winslow Norwood of Camden, Maine. William is a descendant of Joshua Norwood, III, of Mount Desert, Maine. I have begun reading the novel and will try to review it later. I'm only nine chapters into the story. I think Allison has done a great job on chapters 8 & 9. His description is very strong, as is his research of the context for his story. Both of these things were announced on this list in 2006. I hope you will all stay with the list and be available for research questions and continue to receive notices of new and interesting things related to our Norwood surname. I have updated the Norwood Family Page (I know it's been static for some time.), adding information about /Chase /and some notes about Jordanus de Sheppey and King Harold II. I just picked up and am reading /1066, The Year of the Conquest/, by David Howarth, and published in 1981 by Penguin Books. It's a page-turner, small, 200 pages, very nicely written. When you read it, you feel that England before the conquest was a special place indeed, almost idyllic. You can even see the seeds of democracy already planted and rooting, though many centuries will pass before they fully sprout. Another book about Harold that I enjoyed very much is /Harold, The Last Anglo-Saxon King/, by Ian W. Walker, published in 1997 by Sutton Publishing, Ltd. It is very detailed, thorough, and also nicely written with maps, charts, pictures, bibliography, and copious notes. Of course, since it can't be proved that the Norwoods stem from the Godwin family through Harold, these books have to satisfy our interest in a significant juncture in English history, not necessarily our origins. For some reason, although I have come to understand this, Harold still holds a special place in my mind and heart. Well, may you all have a wonderful 2007! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Take time to smile. God Bless Ya!!!! Mildred Couch p.s. sending packages to service personal? see your local U.S.P.S. for free shipping kits and other info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Lucy Gray wrote: >Joyce, > >I have been out of the "loop" having a knee replacement. I missed the announcement of a Norwood reunion. Do you have any particulars about it? > > >Lucy Gray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 8:49 AM > Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] Maryland Norwoods > > > It's great to know there's a Norwood reunion. My husband is a Chandler and > they have an extensive connection and a reunion every year. It may be a little > late this year, but perhaps next year I could attend. Thanks for the > information. > > Joyce Norwood Chandler > > Lucy, The 9th Maryland Norwood Reunion is scheduled for 29 April 2007 in Mount Airy, Maryland. I know as I am one of the Guest Speakers scheduled for this year. But an announcement has not yet gone out to the general public. For more info on it, please contact me directly. If you ARE a descendant of Capt. John Norwood of Maryland, please contact me anyway, even if you are not interested in attending the reunion (last year we had almost 100 family researchers there). Kitty Crowley [email protected]

I am not much of a researcher but the 1850 census of San Augustine Co TX show my g-g-g-grandfather William Coleson Norwood age 55, came to TX with wife Eliza Wade LeGrand 43, and children Hampton 17, Thomas15, James LeGrand 12 (was my g-g-grandfather, Eliza 10, Adaline 7, Sarah 5, and child Edwin O. was born in TX. All except Edwin born in NC. William Coleson came to TX with Edwin O LeGrand (Eliza's brother) to fight for the TX Independance from Mexico. TX won Independance from Mexico in 1836 so my question is where was his family from 1836 to first time they shows up on San Augustine County Property Tax Roll in 1848. On the 1880 census he is still living,,,,,he is 86 and has 38 year old wife.???? He was granted a section of land for his services to TX. My guess is from the following records they were traveling.....or traveled so far and waited for his return. Can anyone help here? On Cemetery records his father is listed as Thomas Norwood and mother as Jame Coleson. He was born 11 Oct 1794 and died 27 June 1885. Child Amanda Norwood age 20 married around 1849 a Charles W. Crouch. They also came to TX. Their children are John 18 born TN, William 16 born TN, Elizabeth 13, born MS, Lucretia 4 born TX, and Martha 2 born TX. But as you can see John, William, and Elizabeth could not possibly be Amanda's children from ages. Lucretia and Martha could be 2nd wife's but I don't know for sure. Then since record show Amanda as his 3rd wife I personally don't feel as if any of these children could be Amanda's. First was _____ Brown, 2nd was a Martha A Smith he either married in 1844 or she died in 1844, Third is Amanda M. Norwood who supposed to have married in 1849 and this is 1850 census'. Am I wrong? The 1850 San Augustine Co TX census records show a Laura Emma Norwood 24 married to a John Jacob Carswell age 27 born NC. In the 1850 census their children are William age 4 born in TX and Edwin age 2 born in TX. Also on the 1850 census is listed a Catharine Norwood Ware age 38 born in SC. She is a widow of Nimrod W. Ware, Sr. with children Louisa 14 born in AL, James E. 13, born in TN, Theophilus 11 born in TX, Frances 1 born in TX. Is she William sister, daughter, or cousin? Can any of you help? I still live in the same community where he settled and had always know this land in the beginning was his but as a 60 year old woman I began to get interested in the family genealogy. The decendance for a few years named children all the same so its hard to keep them seperated for me. Lucy Gray <[email protected]> wrote: Dale, If you ever pass through Pensacola I would be glad for you to copy what I have. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Norwood To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator I have two of his books. One is the "Edward Norwood, Son of William of Surry, Va, Documentation" and the other is "The South Carolina Norwood Tradition, A Thesis Edward Norwood, Theophilus I Norwood, Theophilus II Norwood, Volume 6" I wish I could get a copy of the rest of his work. He is very thorough. Dale -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lucy Gray Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator Dale, Do you have a copy of all the work Mr. Bauer printed out? At one time he copied all the research of the early Norwood researchers. That would have the addresses of those connections in Texas. I'm sorry I "downsized" too soon. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Norwood To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator I think Billie Brem is a Norwood researcher who lives in Texas and traced the Norwood's there. She helped me out a lot early on in my research. I haven't contacted her in several years so I am not sure if she is still there. I will look through my stack of contacts and try to get you a contact email. Dale Norwood -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lucy Gray Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator Mildred, At one time there were several Norwood descendants researching the family in Texas. I had a copy of some their research at one time but I'm afraid I may have disposed of it during a moved. One of the ladies was from Houston. It may be several weeks before I'll be up to pulling out papers. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Mildred Couch To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator best wishes Lucy with you surgery.... I am interested in anyone who has any info on William Coleson Norwood, who came to San Augustine Co TX. He is my ggg grandfather....twice....He is a ggg grandfather on both my mother and daddy's side of the family. My mother and dad were 3 cousins...so you see why it is so important to me to find out all I can.... I am trying to connect My Norwood's to William, the Immigrant....Can anyone help.... Lucy Gray wrote: Richard, Thank you for your note. I appreciate your update. I'm still interested in finding out anything new about my Norwood ancestors after almost 50 years of researching them. I hope one of these days the family in join others and form a Norwood Family DNA research. I have had good luck in the DNA testing of the Daniel, Langley, and Callaway lines. I'll be out of pocket after Friday for about 4 weeks with a knee replacement at the age of 75. Best wishes to all for 2007. Lucy Gray ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Norwood To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 8:04 AM Subject: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator Happy New Year everyone! I am not a very communicative administrator and our list has very little traffic, but we have held on all these years and if anyone wants to post to our Norwood research community, we are here. Recently, we had news of a painting commissioned to depict Richard Norwood surveying Bermuda, and after looking at the artist's work, I am excited about seeing the new painting. Also, a novel published this year, Chase, by William Allison, tells the story of George Chase, who marries Harriet Norwood, daughter of William and Deborah Winslow Norwood of Camden, Maine. William is a descendant of Joshua Norwood, III, of Mount Desert, Maine. I have begun reading the novel and will try to review it later. I'm only nine chapters into the story. I think Allison has done a great job on chapters 8 & 9. His description is very strong, as is his research of the context for his story. Both of these things were announced on this list in 2006. I hope you will all stay with the list and be available for research questions and continue to receive notices of new and interesting things related to our Norwood surname. I have updated the Norwood Family Page (I know it's been static for some time.), adding information about /Chase /and some notes about Jordanus de Sheppey and King Harold II. I just picked up and am reading /1066, The Year of the Conquest/, by David Howarth, and published in 1981 by Penguin Books. It's a page-turner, small, 200 pages, very nicely written. When you read it, you feel that England before the conquest was a special place indeed, almost idyllic. You can even see the seeds of democracy already planted and rooting, though many centuries will pass before they fully sprout. Another book about Harold that I enjoyed very much is /Harold, The Last Anglo-Saxon King/, by Ian W. Walker, published in 1997 by Sutton Publishing, Ltd. It is very detailed, thorough, and also nicely written with maps, charts, pictures, bibliography, and copious notes. Of course, since it can't be proved that the Norwoods stem from the Godwin family through Harold, these books have to satisfy our interest in a significant juncture in English history, not necessarily our origins. For some reason, although I have come to understand this, Harold still holds a special place in my mind and heart. Well, may you all have a wonderful 2007! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Take time to smile. God Bless Ya!!!! Mildred Couch p.s. sending packages to service personal? see your local U.S.P.S. for free shipping kits and other info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Dale, If you ever pass through Pensacola I would be glad for you to copy what I have. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Norwood To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator I have two of his books. One is the "Edward Norwood, Son of William of Surry, Va, Documentation" and the other is "The South Carolina Norwood Tradition, A Thesis Edward Norwood, Theophilus I Norwood, Theophilus II Norwood, Volume 6" I wish I could get a copy of the rest of his work. He is very thorough. Dale -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lucy Gray Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator Dale, Do you have a copy of all the work Mr. Bauer printed out? At one time he copied all the research of the early Norwood researchers. That would have the addresses of those connections in Texas. I'm sorry I "downsized" too soon. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Norwood To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator I think Billie Brem is a Norwood researcher who lives in Texas and traced the Norwood's there. She helped me out a lot early on in my research. I haven't contacted her in several years so I am not sure if she is still there. I will look through my stack of contacts and try to get you a contact email. Dale Norwood -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lucy Gray Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator Mildred, At one time there were several Norwood descendants researching the family in Texas. I had a copy of some their research at one time but I'm afraid I may have disposed of it during a moved. One of the ladies was from Houston. It may be several weeks before I'll be up to pulling out papers. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Mildred Couch To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator best wishes Lucy with you surgery.... I am interested in anyone who has any info on William Coleson Norwood, who came to San Augustine Co TX. He is my ggg grandfather....twice....He is a ggg grandfather on both my mother and daddy's side of the family. My mother and dad were 3 cousins...so you see why it is so important to me to find out all I can.... I am trying to connect My Norwood's to William, the Immigrant....Can anyone help.... Lucy Gray <[email protected]> wrote: Richard, Thank you for your note. I appreciate your update. I'm still interested in finding out anything new about my Norwood ancestors after almost 50 years of researching them. I hope one of these days the family in join others and form a Norwood Family DNA research. I have had good luck in the DNA testing of the Daniel, Langley, and Callaway lines. I'll be out of pocket after Friday for about 4 weeks with a knee replacement at the age of 75. Best wishes to all for 2007. Lucy Gray ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Norwood To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 8:04 AM Subject: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator Happy New Year everyone! I am not a very communicative administrator and our list has very little traffic, but we have held on all these years and if anyone wants to post to our Norwood research community, we are here. Recently, we had news of a painting commissioned to depict Richard Norwood surveying Bermuda, and after looking at the artist's work, I am excited about seeing the new painting. Also, a novel published this year, Chase, by William Allison, tells the story of George Chase, who marries Harriet Norwood, daughter of William and Deborah Winslow Norwood of Camden, Maine. William is a descendant of Joshua Norwood, III, of Mount Desert, Maine. I have begun reading the novel and will try to review it later. I'm only nine chapters into the story. I think Allison has done a great job on chapters 8 & 9. His description is very strong, as is his research of the context for his story. Both of these things were announced on this list in 2006. I hope you will all stay with the list and be available for research questions and continue to receive notices of new and interesting things related to our Norwood surname. I have updated the Norwood Family Page (I know it's been static for some time.), adding information about /Chase /and some notes about Jordanus de Sheppey and King Harold II. I just picked up and am reading /1066, The Year of the Conquest/, by David Howarth, and published in 1981 by Penguin Books. It's a page-turner, small, 200 pages, very nicely written. When you read it, you feel that England before the conquest was a special place indeed, almost idyllic. You can even see the seeds of democracy already planted and rooting, though many centuries will pass before they fully sprout. Another book about Harold that I enjoyed very much is /Harold, The Last Anglo-Saxon King/, by Ian W. Walker, published in 1997 by Sutton Publishing, Ltd. It is very detailed, thorough, and also nicely written with maps, charts, pictures, bibliography, and copious notes. Of course, since it can't be proved that the Norwoods stem from the Godwin family through Harold, these books have to satisfy our interest in a significant juncture in English history, not necessarily our origins. For some reason, although I have come to understand this, Harold still holds a special place in my mind and heart. Well, may you all have a wonderful 2007! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Take time to smile. God Bless Ya!!!! Mildred Couch p.s. sending packages to service personal? see your local U.S.P.S. for free shipping kits and other info. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Charlene, I have known several descendants of the Mississippi Norwoods. When I am over this knee replacement I'll be glad to pass help you with what I know. Do you live anywhere near Pensacola, FL? That is where I am located. Lucy Gray ----- Original Message ----- From: chgode To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] A message from the list administrator Hello Dale Always glad to meet more Norwoods out there. I have traced my Norwoods back to John Norwood III born 3 dec 1806 Darlington, SC and died 1870 Mt Zion Cemmahee Simpson, MS. I don't have any other information on my Norwoods. My mother was a Norwood born in Baldwin Co Al 1926 and died in Esc Co Fl 1966. Wish I had more info to share with you. Charlene __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lynn, I'm the 76 year old southern cousin who has just had a knee replacement. I returned to my apt. yesterday. I wanted to tell you probably the most knowledgeable Norwood descendant is a descendant of a Norwood who went into Mass. He has written some books and a month or so ago sent an e-mail to the Norwood. If you don't get any help write me in about a month and I'll try to look up some information for youl. Lucy Gray [email protected],net ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynne Roberts To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:55 PM Subject: [NORWOOD] New York Norwoods Okay all you Southern Norwoods - is there anyone out there with any connection to New York - New Jersey Norwoods? Have traced back to Tobias Norwood - New York City - through Andrew Sickels, Andrew Gustavus, and Tallmadge. Does this ring a bell with anyone?????? Anyone out there have a connection to Sickels - New Jersey, I think? Lynne Lynne N. Roberts Roseville, CA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dale Norwood Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] Did you know--tidbits from surfing Not sure of Lincolnshire, but according to Mr. Dempsey: "Lord John de Northwood, son of Sir Roger and Bona de Northwood, was born on June 24, 1254 and died May 26, 1319 and was buried at Minster Abbey. He was the Sheriff of Kent between 1292-1300 and married Lady Joan Badlesmere who died June 2, 1391" Dale -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lucy Gray Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:15 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] Did you know--tidbits from surfing Richard, I think there was a Norwood sheriff in Lincolnshire also in the 1400's or 1500's. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Norwood To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 7:47 AM Subject: [NORWOOD] Did you know--tidbits from surfing Did you know that a Robert Norwood was Sheriff of Nottingham in 1498/9? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message