To start on a personal note, I'd like to thank everyone who sent me condolences on the deaths we had in the family. I sent my previous email when I'd belatedly learned about the loss of one of my cousins who I had been working on my genealogy with, and the loss of my father-in-law on the same day. About a week later I got a call that one of my aunt's had died and I needed to get on a plane to Europe. Unfortunately, my health ultimately prevented me from going and my Mom had to go on her own. The last couple of months have been one shock after another. We are seeing some preliminary results from the Y-DNA testing that was done on my uncle. If I'm reading what's on the FTDNA website correctly, it looks like the haplogroup is R1b1c and that they have values listed for markers 1 thru 37 so far. Of interest to note, the first panel of markers 1 thru 12 are an exact match for those of the descendant of Charles Norway shown on the Norwood DNA project results page. However, the second panel of markers, 13 thru 25, have five values that are different. Not sure what that all means yet, but I found it interesting. Definitely tells you why one needs to test for more than just the first 12 markers. Testing is scheduled to be finished around the second week of May. TTYL! Irene www.norwoodconnections.com

I know I owe several people some email responses. Just wanted to let everyone know that it may take me a while yet to get back to you. I was notified of two deaths in the family yesterday and frankly I feel a bit unraveled right now. I'll write back as soon as I can. Irene

Just to keep those of you who may be interested in the loop. My uncle's test was received by FTDNA on March 7 and DNA Isolation began today, March 15, according to the website. It'll still be many weeks yet before we get a result, but at least we are moving along in the right direction at a fairly steady pace. Roe Jene is working with her brother to get him to take the test for the Andrew Sickels Norwood line which will be such a huge help for the sake of the comparison of the Bermuda lines. We can not thank him enough for this! I've been slowly excavating my research and haven't come up with another male Norwood on these lines to test so far. We're all doing the happy dance of excitement here! I'll keep you posted as I hear progress is made. Irene www.norwoodconnections.com

I have just added a table of the Norwoods who appear in the 1790 US Census to http://www.geocities.com/~rnorwood/tnfpexp.htm (The Norwood Family Page). If you would like to send information about any of the individuals on the list that you have researched, please e-mail it to me and I will add it to the table. Thank you. Dick Norwood

I think we'll have to wait for a major evolutionary shift, so don't hold your breath! LOL. Any boys in your line, Jackie? Dick Norwood [email protected] wrote: > Hi Dick: > > If ever they changed the rules and you need a "girl" Norwood, let me > know........lol. > > Jackie Norwood Corby > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

We can start a fund. I haven't been able to donate to it yet, but I keep meaning to put a little something there to start and add to it. If anyone has the means and desire to contribute to the general fund of the Norwood DNA Project, let me know and I will provide instructions. Volunteers would be great too, but I haven't been successful in contacting people in the William Norwood lines recently. I tried to contact Leland Norwood of California who has done a lot of research in this line without success. The Maine/Mass Norwoods I have identified and contacted aren't interested in or able to spend that kind of money for this effort. There isn't much genealogical interest there, usually. I want to refine my own tests further but haven't been able to justify the expense recently. Best, Dick Norwood Lucy Gray wrote: > When I attended several Norwood reunions some years ago there were a good many other lines represented. Some lived in NC and some in SC. Is there some place we could put a notice asking for volunteers? Do we have a fund in case some one is willing but doesn't have the money to take the DNA at his time? > > > Lucy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dick Norwood > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 6:09 AM > Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] Norwood DNA Testing > > > Hi Lucy, > > As a member of the Norwood Y-DNA group, you will pay $189.00 for the 37 marker test. > This is reduced from the $259.00 price for non-group orders. > > So far, we only have participants from the Theophilus line. I have waited to see if any other descendants of William Norwood join up. I am aware of the doubts about Theophilus I's origins, so finding someone from another line with a better paper trail to immigrant William Norwood would be very good. It might settle that question once and for all. It is interesting that Theophilus's descendants are in haplogroup I and other Norwoods, so far, are in haplogroup R1b. I am really eager to see more Norwoods participate in the project. > > Best, > Dick Norwood > > > > Lucy Gray wrote: > > Dick, > > > > William Felton Norwood is from my line. We are from Zachariah's son, Lorenzo Dow Norwood, who migrated from Darlington, SC to Houston CO, GA (Perry is the town.). The sister of his grandfather and my grandmother established our line back to William through his son Edward to Theophilus I and II. This was for the DAR . Do we have any other DNA's from William's other sons? If we could get one proven line back to William it would help. Some have questioned our line in the past. > > > > There is a Norwood family here in the Pensacola area but I don't know what their line is. The wife works in the bank I use. How much is the 37 marker test now? I'll see if he is interested. I think his aunt has been interested in their genealogy. > > > > > > Lucy > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dick Norwood > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:24 AM > > Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] Norwood DNA Testing > > > > > > Thanks, Lucy. You're welcome. It's a small contribution, really, but I > > do hope that the project will grow. If you browse some of the larger > > projects, you will see the potential that's there. Do you know any male > > Norwoods from Zachariah? It would be interesting to see if there are > > any differentiating mutations in that line. There seems to be one in > > the Samuel line, but more participants would be needed to know for sure. > > > > Best, > > Dick > > > > Lucy Gray wrote: > > > Dick, > > > > > > Thank you for your work with managing the Norwood program and trying to straighten out the lines. I descend from the same line as Felton Norwood through Theophilus' son Zachariah. > > > > > > Lucy Gray > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Dick Norwood > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:31 AM > > > Subject: [NORWOOD] Norwood DNA Testing > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone. > > > > > > I'm so encouraged by Irene's recent post and all the responses. I have > > > just written a response to an individual who wrote me directly, but I > > > thought I would just post instructions for ordering a test from FTDNA > > > here as well. Understand that you can be tested by any number of other > > > companies. I used FTDNA and it is through them that we have the Norwood > > > Y-DNA project and our pages at World Families. If you are able to order > > > a test for a male with the surname Norwood (and you choose FTDNA) follow > > > the instructions below: > > > > > > I would suggest the 37-marker test, the minimum really for meaningful > > > results. As a member of the Norwood Y-DNA group, you will pay $189.00. > > > This is reduced from the $259.00 price for non-group orders. > > > > > > Go to the homepage for FTDNA: https://www.familytreedna.com/default.aspx > > > > > > Click on "Projects" > > > Click on "N" under "Y-DNA Surname Projects" > > > Scroll down to "Norwood" > > > Click on the link > > > Fill out the form and select the Y-DNA37 test in the drop-down menu. > > > > > > Thanks again for investigating this and being willing to give it a try. > > > The more people who participate, the greater the chance that we will be > > > able to sort out our ancestries and understand the origins of the > > > various Norwood lines. We might eventually break through some of those > > > brick walls! > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Dick Norwood > > > > > > P.S. If you haven't been there yet, please go to the Norwood DNA > > > Project website at World Families. The address is: > > > http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/n/norwood/ > > > > > > Our project is still small, but the results have been interesting and > > > surprising. When you get there you can explore the various pages listed > > > at the top of the welcome page. "Results" will take you to a chart of > > > our current participants, showing their haplotypes and groupings so far. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

When I attended several Norwood reunions some years ago there were a good many other lines represented. Some lived in NC and some in SC. Is there some place we could put a notice asking for volunteers? Do we have a fund in case some one is willing but doesn't have the money to take the DNA at his time? Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Norwood To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] Norwood DNA Testing Hi Lucy, As a member of the Norwood Y-DNA group, you will pay $189.00 for the 37 marker test. This is reduced from the $259.00 price for non-group orders. So far, we only have participants from the Theophilus line. I have waited to see if any other descendants of William Norwood join up. I am aware of the doubts about Theophilus I's origins, so finding someone from another line with a better paper trail to immigrant William Norwood would be very good. It might settle that question once and for all. It is interesting that Theophilus's descendants are in haplogroup I and other Norwoods, so far, are in haplogroup R1b. I am really eager to see more Norwoods participate in the project. Best, Dick Norwood Lucy Gray wrote: > Dick, > > William Felton Norwood is from my line. We are from Zachariah's son, Lorenzo Dow Norwood, who migrated from Darlington, SC to Houston CO, GA (Perry is the town.). The sister of his grandfather and my grandmother established our line back to William through his son Edward to Theophilus I and II. This was for the DAR . Do we have any other DNA's from William's other sons? If we could get one proven line back to William it would help. Some have questioned our line in the past. > > There is a Norwood family here in the Pensacola area but I don't know what their line is. The wife works in the bank I use. How much is the 37 marker test now? I'll see if he is interested. I think his aunt has been interested in their genealogy. > > > Lucy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dick Norwood > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:24 AM > Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] Norwood DNA Testing > > > Thanks, Lucy. You're welcome. It's a small contribution, really, but I > do hope that the project will grow. If you browse some of the larger > projects, you will see the potential that's there. Do you know any male > Norwoods from Zachariah? It would be interesting to see if there are > any differentiating mutations in that line. There seems to be one in > the Samuel line, but more participants would be needed to know for sure. > > Best, > Dick > > Lucy Gray wrote: > > Dick, > > > > Thank you for your work with managing the Norwood program and trying to straighten out the lines. I descend from the same line as Felton Norwood through Theophilus' son Zachariah. > > > > Lucy Gray > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dick Norwood > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:31 AM > > Subject: [NORWOOD] Norwood DNA Testing > > > > > > Hello everyone. > > > > I'm so encouraged by Irene's recent post and all the responses. I have > > just written a response to an individual who wrote me directly, but I > > thought I would just post instructions for ordering a test from FTDNA > > here as well. Understand that you can be tested by any number of other > > companies. I used FTDNA and it is through them that we have the Norwood > > Y-DNA project and our pages at World Families. If you are able to order > > a test for a male with the surname Norwood (and you choose FTDNA) follow > > the instructions below: > > > > I would suggest the 37-marker test, the minimum really for meaningful > > results. As a member of the Norwood Y-DNA group, you will pay $189.00. > > This is reduced from the $259.00 price for non-group orders. > > > > Go to the homepage for FTDNA: https://www.familytreedna.com/default.aspx > > > > Click on "Projects" > > Click on "N" under "Y-DNA Surname Projects" > > Scroll down to "Norwood" > > Click on the link > > Fill out the form and select the Y-DNA37 test in the drop-down menu. > > > > Thanks again for investigating this and being willing to give it a try. > > The more people who participate, the greater the chance that we will be > > able to sort out our ancestries and understand the origins of the > > various Norwood lines. We might eventually break through some of those > > brick walls! > > > > Best regards, > > Dick Norwood > > > > P.S. If you haven't been there yet, please go to the Norwood DNA > > Project website at World Families. The address is: > > http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/n/norwood/ > > > > Our project is still small, but the results have been interesting and > > surprising. When you get there you can explore the various pages listed > > at the top of the welcome page. "Results" will take you to a chart of > > our current participants, showing their haplotypes and groupings so far. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dick: If ever they changed the rules and you need a "girl" Norwood, let me know........lol. Jackie Norwood Corby **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Hi Lucy, As a member of the Norwood Y-DNA group, you will pay $189.00 for the 37 marker test. This is reduced from the $259.00 price for non-group orders. So far, we only have participants from the Theophilus line. I have waited to see if any other descendants of William Norwood join up. I am aware of the doubts about Theophilus I's origins, so finding someone from another line with a better paper trail to immigrant William Norwood would be very good. It might settle that question once and for all. It is interesting that Theophilus's descendants are in haplogroup I and other Norwoods, so far, are in haplogroup R1b. I am really eager to see more Norwoods participate in the project. Best, Dick Norwood Lucy Gray wrote: > Dick, > > William Felton Norwood is from my line. We are from Zachariah's son, Lorenzo Dow Norwood, who migrated from Darlington, SC to Houston CO, GA (Perry is the town.). The sister of his grandfather and my grandmother established our line back to William through his son Edward to Theophilus I and II. This was for the DAR . Do we have any other DNA's from William's other sons? If we could get one proven line back to William it would help. Some have questioned our line in the past. > > There is a Norwood family here in the Pensacola area but I don't know what their line is. The wife works in the bank I use. How much is the 37 marker test now? I'll see if he is interested. I think his aunt has been interested in their genealogy. > > > Lucy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dick Norwood > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:24 AM > Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] Norwood DNA Testing > > > Thanks, Lucy. You're welcome. It's a small contribution, really, but I > do hope that the project will grow. If you browse some of the larger > projects, you will see the potential that's there. Do you know any male > Norwoods from Zachariah? It would be interesting to see if there are > any differentiating mutations in that line. There seems to be one in > the Samuel line, but more participants would be needed to know for sure. > > Best, > Dick > > Lucy Gray wrote: > > Dick, > > > > Thank you for your work with managing the Norwood program and trying to straighten out the lines. I descend from the same line as Felton Norwood through Theophilus' son Zachariah. > > > > Lucy Gray > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dick Norwood > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:31 AM > > Subject: [NORWOOD] Norwood DNA Testing > > > > > > Hello everyone. > > > > I'm so encouraged by Irene's recent post and all the responses. I have > > just written a response to an individual who wrote me directly, but I > > thought I would just post instructions for ordering a test from FTDNA > > here as well. Understand that you can be tested by any number of other > > companies. I used FTDNA and it is through them that we have the Norwood > > Y-DNA project and our pages at World Families. If you are able to order > > a test for a male with the surname Norwood (and you choose FTDNA) follow > > the instructions below: > > > > I would suggest the 37-marker test, the minimum really for meaningful > > results. As a member of the Norwood Y-DNA group, you will pay $189.00. > > This is reduced from the $259.00 price for non-group orders. > > > > Go to the homepage for FTDNA: https://www.familytreedna.com/default.aspx > > > > Click on "Projects" > > Click on "N" under "Y-DNA Surname Projects" > > Scroll down to "Norwood" > > Click on the link > > Fill out the form and select the Y-DNA37 test in the drop-down menu. > > > > Thanks again for investigating this and being willing to give it a try. > > The more people who participate, the greater the chance that we will be > > able to sort out our ancestries and understand the origins of the > > various Norwood lines. We might eventually break through some of those > > brick walls! > > > > Best regards, > > Dick Norwood > > > > P.S. If you haven't been there yet, please go to the Norwood DNA > > Project website at World Families. The address is: > > http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/n/norwood/ > > > > Our project is still small, but the results have been interesting and > > surprising. When you get there you can explore the various pages listed > > at the top of the welcome page. "Results" will take you to a chart of > > our current participants, showing their haplotypes and groupings so far. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Dick, William Felton Norwood is from my line. We are from Zachariah's son, Lorenzo Dow Norwood, who migrated from Darlington, SC to Houston CO, GA (Perry is the town.). The sister of his grandfather and my grandmother established our line back to William through his son Edward to Theophilus I and II. This was for the DAR . Do we have any other DNA's from William's other sons? If we could get one proven line back to William it would help. Some have questioned our line in the past. There is a Norwood family here in the Pensacola area but I don't know what their line is. The wife works in the bank I use. How much is the 37 marker test now? I'll see if he is interested. I think his aunt has been interested in their genealogy. Lucy ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Norwood To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] Norwood DNA Testing Thanks, Lucy. You're welcome. It's a small contribution, really, but I do hope that the project will grow. If you browse some of the larger projects, you will see the potential that's there. Do you know any male Norwoods from Zachariah? It would be interesting to see if there are any differentiating mutations in that line. There seems to be one in the Samuel line, but more participants would be needed to know for sure. Best, Dick Lucy Gray wrote: > Dick, > > Thank you for your work with managing the Norwood program and trying to straighten out the lines. I descend from the same line as Felton Norwood through Theophilus' son Zachariah. > > Lucy Gray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dick Norwood > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:31 AM > Subject: [NORWOOD] Norwood DNA Testing > > > Hello everyone. > > I'm so encouraged by Irene's recent post and all the responses. I have > just written a response to an individual who wrote me directly, but I > thought I would just post instructions for ordering a test from FTDNA > here as well. Understand that you can be tested by any number of other > companies. I used FTDNA and it is through them that we have the Norwood > Y-DNA project and our pages at World Families. If you are able to order > a test for a male with the surname Norwood (and you choose FTDNA) follow > the instructions below: > > I would suggest the 37-marker test, the minimum really for meaningful > results. As a member of the Norwood Y-DNA group, you will pay $189.00. > This is reduced from the $259.00 price for non-group orders. > > Go to the homepage for FTDNA: https://www.familytreedna.com/default.aspx > > Click on "Projects" > Click on "N" under "Y-DNA Surname Projects" > Scroll down to "Norwood" > Click on the link > Fill out the form and select the Y-DNA37 test in the drop-down menu. > > Thanks again for investigating this and being willing to give it a try. > The more people who participate, the greater the chance that we will be > able to sort out our ancestries and understand the origins of the > various Norwood lines. We might eventually break through some of those > brick walls! > > Best regards, > Dick Norwood > > P.S. If you haven't been there yet, please go to the Norwood DNA > Project website at World Families. The address is: > http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/n/norwood/ > > Our project is still small, but the results have been interesting and > surprising. When you get there you can explore the various pages listed > at the top of the welcome page. "Results" will take you to a chart of > our current participants, showing their haplotypes and groupings so far. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]sweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It may be a couple of months before the results come back, so take a deep breath and try to think about something else in the meantime! LOL I felt very impatient waiting for mine, I remember. Dick [email protected] wrote: > Oh, how I love replying to my own post. LOL. > > UPDATE: Just to let everyone know that I placed the order this > morning for the Y-DNA test to be sent to my uncle. Mom says he's > really excited about doing this and that he said I needed to get a > move on and get the darn kit to him already. Alrighty, then. I guess > we're really rolling now! > > I went with the 67 marker test so I hope that doesn't skew any > comparison results. I'd already ordered it before I saw Dick's latest > post recommending the 37. It was decided that if we were going to do > this we weren't doing it half-way. Alrighty then. I really do love my > family, they can be just way too much fun sometimes. :) > > Okay, so now the waiting begins! I'm already on pins and needles > wanting to see what we come up with! > > Irene > > > > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:30:21 -0700, you wrote: > > >> Hi! >> >> Yes, I know I'm replying to a post made a year ago. Just consider me a >> turtle vs a hare, I'm slow but I eventually get where I'm going. :) >> >> Dick has posted twice to the guestbook on my website (in desperate >> need of an update, I know, I know) looking for male Norwoods related >> to Richard Norwood of Bermuda, 1590-1675, to have their DNA tested. >> Okay, so I finally went through my database and was able to find the >> names of around two dozen male Norwoods in my family lines that are >> still living (and over the age of 25 since I didn't want to bother any >> of the kids with their crazy cousin's genealogy obsession). About half >> of these guys I grew up with and could contact without them thinking I >> was more off my rocker than usual for asking them to do this. >> >> So I was talking to my Mom about the best ways to go about contacting >> my male relatives and as it turned out, my Mom had one of my uncles >> over for dinner last week for his birthday and she mentioned what I >> wanted to do and he said he'd do it! Doesn't get easier than that! >> >> Now for the quandary. At the current time I'm only 90% sure that my >> Norwood line descends from the Bermuda line. I can get back as far as >> my 2nd great grandfather Richard Norwood, who's father was probably >> Cornelius Norwood, who's father was probably one of two Richard >> Norwoods that I know about (both of whom descend from Richard Norwood >> of Bermuda), but I can't prove any of it. What I need is a male >> Norwood to participate in DNA testing that can prove his line to >> Richard Norwood of Bermuda. >> >> Pam, Lynne, Jon, Barb, Roe Jene, any thoughts on this? Do you know any >> male Norwoods on the lines you are researching that would be willing >> to participate? The Andrew Norwood and Hannah Van Norden line is at >> least fairly proven so it would be a huge help to have the comparison. >> >> Gwen, any male Norwoods you know about? I know your Norwood connection >> is further back than some of us. What about maybe someone descending >> > >from Richard Norwood and Susanna Stowe that you were researching last > >> I heard? >> >> Debi, are you in contact with any male Norwoods from the Wilks Norwood >> line that would be willing to get in on this? Mom has lunch with your >> cousin Linda regularly but won't be back in town for a month so won't >> be able to ask Linda if one of her brother's would be willing to do >> this until then. >> >> Dale, do you have any interest in getting in on this for the George >> Norwood line? >> >> Another question. Since my uncle has agreed to do this for me, bless >> his heart, is there any advantage in me asking any of the other uncles >> or cousins on my line to participate? Please keep in mind that I guess >> I'll be paying for the testing of my line through www.familytreedna so >> I wouldn't want to do too many. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Irene >> www.norwoodconnections.com >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Does anyone know anything about this William Norwood listed in the Yearbook of the Holland Society of New York: 1896? Record Description: of houses and lots in the city of New Amsterdam about the year 1674, at the final cession to the English; the property being classified according to its relative value, as first, second, third, and forth, with the national descent of the person name, give to illustrate the condition of the population at that ear, and their estimated wealth. Location: On the present Broad Street, east side, between South William Street and Broad Street, then known as a part of the Heere Graft and Princen Graft Name: William Norwood Property Class: Second National Descent: English Wealth: $2,500 Can't find any other reference to a William Norwood at that time - Lynne -----Original Message----- From: icefox [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 5:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NORWOOD] Norwood DNA testing - Bermuda Hmmm. Tallmadge and Emma had five children; Tallmadge, Andrew, William, Mary, and June. Okay, three boys to work with. Looks like the younger Tallmadge also had a son named Tallmadge Floyd who died in 1962 who only had two daughters that I know about. Do we know if his brother John D. had any male children? I have absolutely no info on Andrew, any hope there? And I have a note that says William died young. Bummer. I'm not doing so well here. Tallmadge seems to be the only boy Andrew G. had so that takes us back to Andrew Sickels. Which leaves us with maybe someone from the Alexander Hamilton or Carlisle lines. Roe Jene is already checking into someone for the Alexander Hamilton line. Do we even know anyone researching the Carlisle line? I don't seem to have anyone listed on my "cousin-connections" cheat sheet for them. Irene On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:41:56 -0800, you wrote: >Irene - my line - Tallmadge to June daughtered out. Can't help here. > >Lynne

Hmmm. Tallmadge and Emma had five children; Tallmadge, Andrew, William, Mary, and June. Okay, three boys to work with. Looks like the younger Tallmadge also had a son named Tallmadge Floyd who died in 1962 who only had two daughters that I know about. Do we know if his brother John D. had any male children? I have absolutely no info on Andrew, any hope there? And I have a note that says William died young. Bummer. I'm not doing so well here. Tallmadge seems to be the only boy Andrew G. had so that takes us back to Andrew Sickels. Which leaves us with maybe someone from the Alexander Hamilton or Carlisle lines. Roe Jene is already checking into someone for the Alexander Hamilton line. Do we even know anyone researching the Carlisle line? I don't seem to have anyone listed on my "cousin-connections" cheat sheet for them. Irene On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:41:56 -0800, you wrote: >Irene - my line - Tallmadge to June daughtered out. Can't help here. > >Lynne

Oh, how I love replying to my own post. LOL. UPDATE: Just to let everyone know that I placed the order this morning for the Y-DNA test to be sent to my uncle. Mom says he's really excited about doing this and that he said I needed to get a move on and get the darn kit to him already. Alrighty, then. I guess we're really rolling now! I went with the 67 marker test so I hope that doesn't skew any comparison results. I'd already ordered it before I saw Dick's latest post recommending the 37. It was decided that if we were going to do this we weren't doing it half-way. Alrighty then. I really do love my family, they can be just way too much fun sometimes. :) Okay, so now the waiting begins! I'm already on pins and needles wanting to see what we come up with! Irene On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:30:21 -0700, you wrote: >Hi! > >Yes, I know I'm replying to a post made a year ago. Just consider me a >turtle vs a hare, I'm slow but I eventually get where I'm going. :) > >Dick has posted twice to the guestbook on my website (in desperate >need of an update, I know, I know) looking for male Norwoods related >to Richard Norwood of Bermuda, 1590-1675, to have their DNA tested. >Okay, so I finally went through my database and was able to find the >names of around two dozen male Norwoods in my family lines that are >still living (and over the age of 25 since I didn't want to bother any >of the kids with their crazy cousin's genealogy obsession). About half >of these guys I grew up with and could contact without them thinking I >was more off my rocker than usual for asking them to do this. > >So I was talking to my Mom about the best ways to go about contacting >my male relatives and as it turned out, my Mom had one of my uncles >over for dinner last week for his birthday and she mentioned what I >wanted to do and he said he'd do it! Doesn't get easier than that! > >Now for the quandary. At the current time I'm only 90% sure that my >Norwood line descends from the Bermuda line. I can get back as far as >my 2nd great grandfather Richard Norwood, who's father was probably >Cornelius Norwood, who's father was probably one of two Richard >Norwoods that I know about (both of whom descend from Richard Norwood >of Bermuda), but I can't prove any of it. What I need is a male >Norwood to participate in DNA testing that can prove his line to >Richard Norwood of Bermuda. > >Pam, Lynne, Jon, Barb, Roe Jene, any thoughts on this? Do you know any >male Norwoods on the lines you are researching that would be willing >to participate? The Andrew Norwood and Hannah Van Norden line is at >least fairly proven so it would be a huge help to have the comparison. > >Gwen, any male Norwoods you know about? I know your Norwood connection >is further back than some of us. What about maybe someone descending >from Richard Norwood and Susanna Stowe that you were researching last >I heard? > >Debi, are you in contact with any male Norwoods from the Wilks Norwood >line that would be willing to get in on this? Mom has lunch with your >cousin Linda regularly but won't be back in town for a month so won't >be able to ask Linda if one of her brother's would be willing to do >this until then. > >Dale, do you have any interest in getting in on this for the George >Norwood line? > >Another question. Since my uncle has agreed to do this for me, bless >his heart, is there any advantage in me asking any of the other uncles >or cousins on my line to participate? Please keep in mind that I guess >I'll be paying for the testing of my line through www.familytreedna so >I wouldn't want to do too many. > >Thanks! > >Irene >www.norwoodconnections.com

Thanks, Lucy. You're welcome. It's a small contribution, really, but I do hope that the project will grow. If you browse some of the larger projects, you will see the potential that's there. Do you know any male Norwoods from Zachariah? It would be interesting to see if there are any differentiating mutations in that line. There seems to be one in the Samuel line, but more participants would be needed to know for sure. Best, Dick Lucy Gray wrote: > Dick, > > Thank you for your work with managing the Norwood program and trying to straighten out the lines. I descend from the same line as Felton Norwood through Theophilus' son Zachariah. > > Lucy Gray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dick Norwood > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:31 AM > Subject: [NORWOOD] Norwood DNA Testing > > > Hello everyone. > > I'm so encouraged by Irene's recent post and all the responses. I have > just written a response to an individual who wrote me directly, but I > thought I would just post instructions for ordering a test from FTDNA > here as well. Understand that you can be tested by any number of other > companies. I used FTDNA and it is through them that we have the Norwood > Y-DNA project and our pages at World Families. If you are able to order > a test for a male with the surname Norwood (and you choose FTDNA) follow > the instructions below: > > I would suggest the 37-marker test, the minimum really for meaningful > results. As a member of the Norwood Y-DNA group, you will pay $189.00. > This is reduced from the $259.00 price for non-group orders. > > Go to the homepage for FTDNA: https://www.familytreedna.com/default.aspx > > Click on "Projects" > Click on "N" under "Y-DNA Surname Projects" > Scroll down to "Norwood" > Click on the link > Fill out the form and select the Y-DNA37 test in the drop-down menu. > > Thanks again for investigating this and being willing to give it a try. > The more people who participate, the greater the chance that we will be > able to sort out our ancestries and understand the origins of the > various Norwood lines. We might eventually break through some of those > brick walls! > > Best regards, > Dick Norwood > > P.S. If you haven't been there yet, please go to the Norwood DNA > Project website at World Families. The address is: > http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/n/norwood/ > > Our project is still small, but the results have been interesting and > surprising. When you get there you can explore the various pages listed > at the top of the welcome page. "Results" will take you to a chart of > our current participants, showing their haplotypes and groupings so far. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello everyone. I'm so encouraged by Irene's recent post and all the responses. I have just written a response to an individual who wrote me directly, but I thought I would just post instructions for ordering a test from FTDNA here as well. Understand that you can be tested by any number of other companies. I used FTDNA and it is through them that we have the Norwood Y-DNA project and our pages at World Families. If you are able to order a test for a male with the surname Norwood (and you choose FTDNA) follow the instructions below: I would suggest the 37-marker test, the minimum really for meaningful results. As a member of the Norwood Y-DNA group, you will pay $189.00. This is reduced from the $259.00 price for non-group orders. Go to the homepage for FTDNA: https://www.familytreedna.com/default.aspx Click on "Projects" Click on "N" under "Y-DNA Surname Projects" Scroll down to "Norwood" Click on the link Fill out the form and select the Y-DNA37 test in the drop-down menu. Thanks again for investigating this and being willing to give it a try. The more people who participate, the greater the chance that we will be able to sort out our ancestries and understand the origins of the various Norwood lines. We might eventually break through some of those brick walls! Best regards, Dick Norwood P.S. If you haven't been there yet, please go to the Norwood DNA Project website at World Families. The address is: http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/n/norwood/ Our project is still small, but the results have been interesting and surprising. When you get there you can explore the various pages listed at the top of the welcome page. "Results" will take you to a chart of our current participants, showing their haplotypes and groupings so far.

Dick, Thank you for your work with managing the Norwood program and trying to straighten out the lines. I descend from the same line as Felton Norwood through Theophilus' son Zachariah. Lucy Gray ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Norwood To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: [NORWOOD] Norwood DNA Testing Hello everyone. I'm so encouraged by Irene's recent post and all the responses. I have just written a response to an individual who wrote me directly, but I thought I would just post instructions for ordering a test from FTDNA here as well. Understand that you can be tested by any number of other companies. I used FTDNA and it is through them that we have the Norwood Y-DNA project and our pages at World Families. If you are able to order a test for a male with the surname Norwood (and you choose FTDNA) follow the instructions below: I would suggest the 37-marker test, the minimum really for meaningful results. As a member of the Norwood Y-DNA group, you will pay $189.00. This is reduced from the $259.00 price for non-group orders. Go to the homepage for FTDNA: https://www.familytreedna.com/default.aspx Click on "Projects" Click on "N" under "Y-DNA Surname Projects" Scroll down to "Norwood" Click on the link Fill out the form and select the Y-DNA37 test in the drop-down menu. Thanks again for investigating this and being willing to give it a try. The more people who participate, the greater the chance that we will be able to sort out our ancestries and understand the origins of the various Norwood lines. We might eventually break through some of those brick walls! Best regards, Dick Norwood P.S. If you haven't been there yet, please go to the Norwood DNA Project website at World Families. The address is: http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/n/norwood/ Our project is still small, but the results have been interesting and surprising. When you get there you can explore the various pages listed at the top of the welcome page. "Results" will take you to a chart of our current participants, showing their haplotypes and groupings so far. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good to hear from you, I personally know no Norwoods. My last direct descendant was Deborah Norwood (daughter of Richard Norwood ) who married THE STILL ELUSIVE.... ??? Rosecrans during the Revolution. So, I cannot be of any help. I am answering after a very quick reading of your email and will write more if I have it wrong or have anything else to add. Gwen Becker California [email protected] wrote: Hi! Yes, I know I'm replying to a post made a year ago. Just consider me a turtle vs a hare, I'm slow but I eventually get where I'm going. :) Dick has posted twice to the guestbook on my website (in desperate need of an update, I know, I know) looking for male Norwoods related to Richard Norwood of Bermuda, 1590-1675, to have their DNA tested. Okay, so I finally went through my database and was able to find the names of around two dozen male Norwoods in my family lines that are still living (and over the age of 25 since I didn't want to bother any of the kids with their crazy cousin's genealogy obsession). About half of these guys I grew up with and could contact without them thinking I was more off my rocker than usual for asking them to do this. So I was talking to my Mom about the best ways to go about contacting my male relatives and as it turned out, my Mom had one of my uncles over for dinner last week for his birthday and she mentioned what I wanted to do and he said he'd do it! Doesn't get easier than that! Now for the quandary. At the current time I'm only 90% sure that my Norwood line descends from the Bermuda line. I can get back as far as my 2nd great grandfather Richard Norwood, who's father was probably Cornelius Norwood, who's father was probably one of two Richard Norwoods that I know about (both of whom descend from Richard Norwood of Bermuda), but I can't prove any of it. What I need is a male Norwood to participate in DNA testing that can prove his line to Richard Norwood of Bermuda. Pam, Lynne, Jon, Barb, Roe Jene, any thoughts on this? Do you know any male Norwoods on the lines you are researching that would be willing to participate? The Andrew Norwood and Hannah Van Norden line is at least fairly proven so it would be a huge help to have the comparison. Gwen, any male Norwoods you know about? I know your Norwood connection is further back than some of us. What about maybe someone descending from Richard Norwood and Susanna Stowe that you were researching last I heard? Debi, are you in contact with any male Norwoods from the Wilks Norwood line that would be willing to get in on this? Mom has lunch with your cousin Linda regularly but won't be back in town for a month so won't be able to ask Linda if one of her brother's would be willing to do this until then. Dale, do you have any interest in getting in on this for the George Norwood line? Another question. Since my uncle has agreed to do this for me, bless his heart, is there any advantage in me asking any of the other uncles or cousins on my line to participate? Please keep in mind that I guess I'll be paying for the testing of my line through www.familytreedna so I wouldn't want to do too many. Thanks! Irene www.norwoodconnections.com On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:00:20 -0500, you wrote: >Hi everyone. > >I've appreciated Jim Dempsey's posts on DNA research. My pedigree is >posted at the DNA site: >http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/n/norwood/ and I am waiting for >the test kit now. > >I posted a query some time ago to the DNA Newbie group at Yahoo, and >Phil Goff wrote the following reply: > >There are two strategies: >MONEY IS NO OBJECT: >Under this scenario, I would test two male Norwood descendants of each >family (MA, VA, MD and Bermuda). Ideally, each of the two descendants >should be as widely separated as possible. In other words, one >participant descends from son #1 of the MA founder and another >participant who descends from son #3 of the MA founder. Why test two for >each line? Well, there's always the chance of a non-paternity event >anywhere along any paternal lineage. Alternatively, the paper trail >research may contain an error. If the paper trail is correct, you should >find concensus among the VA, MD and Bermuda descendants as to the DNA >signature, or haplotype. Concensus means that you work through mutations >to discover what the haplotype of the founder looked like. The final >step is to compare to the MA family. Ideally, the two MA samples will be >a high match for each other. Now, do they highly match the other three >families on, say, 90% or more of the markers? There are some other >nuances to evaluating the match, but in most cases this is enough to say >the four families descend from a common paternal ancestor. > >Are there any volunteers to participate specifically for this >question--are the Norwoods of Mass., Virginia, Maryland, and Bermuda all >descendants of one paternal ancestor? > >For the Mass. line, are there any male researchers descended from the >sons of the immigrant: Thomas, Francis, or Caleb? > >Hoping to hear from some of you. > >Thanks, > >Dick Norwood Gwen Costello Becker [email protected]

Hi! Yes, I know I'm replying to a post made a year ago. Just consider me a turtle vs a hare, I'm slow but I eventually get where I'm going. :) Dick has posted twice to the guestbook on my website (in desperate need of an update, I know, I know) looking for male Norwoods related to Richard Norwood of Bermuda, 1590-1675, to have their DNA tested. Okay, so I finally went through my database and was able to find the names of around two dozen male Norwoods in my family lines that are still living (and over the age of 25 since I didn't want to bother any of the kids with their crazy cousin's genealogy obsession). About half of these guys I grew up with and could contact without them thinking I was more off my rocker than usual for asking them to do this. So I was talking to my Mom about the best ways to go about contacting my male relatives and as it turned out, my Mom had one of my uncles over for dinner last week for his birthday and she mentioned what I wanted to do and he said he'd do it! Doesn't get easier than that! Now for the quandary. At the current time I'm only 90% sure that my Norwood line descends from the Bermuda line. I can get back as far as my 2nd great grandfather Richard Norwood, who's father was probably Cornelius Norwood, who's father was probably one of two Richard Norwoods that I know about (both of whom descend from Richard Norwood of Bermuda), but I can't prove any of it. What I need is a male Norwood to participate in DNA testing that can prove his line to Richard Norwood of Bermuda. Pam, Lynne, Jon, Barb, Roe Jene, any thoughts on this? Do you know any male Norwoods on the lines you are researching that would be willing to participate? The Andrew Norwood and Hannah Van Norden line is at least fairly proven so it would be a huge help to have the comparison. Gwen, any male Norwoods you know about? I know your Norwood connection is further back than some of us. What about maybe someone descending from Richard Norwood and Susanna Stowe that you were researching last I heard? Debi, are you in contact with any male Norwoods from the Wilks Norwood line that would be willing to get in on this? Mom has lunch with your cousin Linda regularly but won't be back in town for a month so won't be able to ask Linda if one of her brother's would be willing to do this until then. Dale, do you have any interest in getting in on this for the George Norwood line? Another question. Since my uncle has agreed to do this for me, bless his heart, is there any advantage in me asking any of the other uncles or cousins on my line to participate? Please keep in mind that I guess I'll be paying for the testing of my line through www.familytreedna so I wouldn't want to do too many. Thanks! Irene www.norwoodconnections.com On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:00:20 -0500, you wrote: >Hi everyone. > >I've appreciated Jim Dempsey's posts on DNA research. My pedigree is >posted at the DNA site: >http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/n/norwood/ and I am waiting for >the test kit now. > >I posted a query some time ago to the DNA Newbie group at Yahoo, and >Phil Goff wrote the following reply: > >There are two strategies: >MONEY IS NO OBJECT: >Under this scenario, I would test two male Norwood descendants of each >family (MA, VA, MD and Bermuda). Ideally, each of the two descendants >should be as widely separated as possible. In other words, one >participant descends from son #1 of the MA founder and another >participant who descends from son #3 of the MA founder. Why test two for >each line? Well, there's always the chance of a non-paternity event >anywhere along any paternal lineage. Alternatively, the paper trail >research may contain an error. If the paper trail is correct, you should >find concensus among the VA, MD and Bermuda descendants as to the DNA >signature, or haplotype. Concensus means that you work through mutations >to discover what the haplotype of the founder looked like. The final >step is to compare to the MA family. Ideally, the two MA samples will be >a high match for each other. Now, do they highly match the other three >families on, say, 90% or more of the markers? There are some other >nuances to evaluating the match, but in most cases this is enough to say >the four families descend from a common paternal ancestor. > >Are there any volunteers to participate specifically for this >question--are the Norwoods of Mass., Virginia, Maryland, and Bermuda all >descendants of one paternal ancestor? > >For the Mass. line, are there any male researchers descended from the >sons of the immigrant: Thomas, Francis, or Caleb? > >Hoping to hear from some of you. > >Thanks, > >Dick Norwood

Irene - my line - Tallmadge to June daughtered out. Can't help here. Lynne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NORWOOD] Norwood DNA testing - Bermuda Hi! Yes, I know I'm replying to a post made a year ago. Just consider me a turtle vs a hare, I'm slow but I eventually get where I'm going. :) Dick has posted twice to the guestbook on my website (in desperate need of an update, I know, I know) looking for male Norwoods related to Richard Norwood of Bermuda, 1590-1675, to have their DNA tested. Okay, so I finally went through my database and was able to find the names of around two dozen male Norwoods in my family lines that are still living (and over the age of 25 since I didn't want to bother any of the kids with their crazy cousin's genealogy obsession). About half of these guys I grew up with and could contact without them thinking I was more off my rocker than usual for asking them to do this. So I was talking to my Mom about the best ways to go about contacting my male relatives and as it turned out, my Mom had one of my uncles over for dinner last week for his birthday and she mentioned what I wanted to do and he said he'd do it! Doesn't get easier than that! Now for the quandary. At the current time I'm only 90% sure that my Norwood line descends from the Bermuda line. I can get back as far as my 2nd great grandfather Richard Norwood, who's father was probably Cornelius Norwood, who's father was probably one of two Richard Norwoods that I know about (both of whom descend from Richard Norwood of Bermuda), but I can't prove any of it. What I need is a male Norwood to participate in DNA testing that can prove his line to Richard Norwood of Bermuda. Pam, Lynne, Jon, Barb, Roe Jene, any thoughts on this? Do you know any male Norwoods on the lines you are researching that would be willing to participate? The Andrew Norwood and Hannah Van Norden line is at least fairly proven so it would be a huge help to have the comparison. Gwen, any male Norwoods you know about? I know your Norwood connection is further back than some of us. What about maybe someone descending from Richard Norwood and Susanna Stowe that you were researching last I heard? Debi, are you in contact with any male Norwoods from the Wilks Norwood line that would be willing to get in on this? Mom has lunch with your cousin Linda regularly but won't be back in town for a month so won't be able to ask Linda if one of her brother's would be willing to do this until then. Dale, do you have any interest in getting in on this for the George Norwood line? Another question. Since my uncle has agreed to do this for me, bless his heart, is there any advantage in me asking any of the other uncles or cousins on my line to participate? Please keep in mind that I guess I'll be paying for the testing of my line through www.familytreedna so I wouldn't want to do too many. Thanks! Irene www.norwoodconnections.com On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 16:00:20 -0500, you wrote: >Hi everyone. > >I've appreciated Jim Dempsey's posts on DNA research. My pedigree is >posted at the DNA site: >http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/n/norwood/ and I am waiting for >the test kit now. > >I posted a query some time ago to the DNA Newbie group at Yahoo, and >Phil Goff wrote the following reply: > >There are two strategies: >MONEY IS NO OBJECT: >Under this scenario, I would test two male Norwood descendants of each >family (MA, VA, MD and Bermuda). Ideally, each of the two descendants >should be as widely separated as possible. In other words, one >participant descends from son #1 of the MA founder and another >participant who descends from son #3 of the MA founder. Why test two for >each line? Well, there's always the chance of a non-paternity event >anywhere along any paternal lineage. Alternatively, the paper trail >research may contain an error. If the paper trail is correct, you should >find concensus among the VA, MD and Bermuda descendants as to the DNA >signature, or haplotype. Concensus means that you work through mutations >to discover what the haplotype of the founder looked like. The final >step is to compare to the MA family. Ideally, the two MA samples will be >a high match for each other. Now, do they highly match the other three >families on, say, 90% or more of the markers? There are some other >nuances to evaluating the match, but in most cases this is enough to say >the four families descend from a common paternal ancestor. > >Are there any volunteers to participate specifically for this >question--are the Norwoods of Mass., Virginia, Maryland, and Bermuda all >descendants of one paternal ancestor? > >For the Mass. line, are there any male researchers descended from the >sons of the immigrant: Thomas, Francis, or Caleb? > >Hoping to hear from some of you. > >Thanks, > >Dick Norwood ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message