To any “experts” on Norwegian geography and naming practices I am researching a number of individuals in Ringebu, Oppland fylke. There seems to be a pattern of using: Given name, patronymic surname, farm name, to which is added identification of perhaps a bruk? Using Rygh’s farm listing, I am not sure if these “farm” names should be used in total, or stop at the end of the farm name itself and making note of the additional information in note section. An example: Jens Jakobsen was born in Nordbu farm, #9, Venabygd parish, Ringebu, in 1775. He was the son of Jakob Halvorsen Nordbu and Abelone Jensdatter. Connected with this family, father, son, siblings, etc., I find: Nordbusstuen Sæterstuen Sagbakken Nordbusstugua Brandstadhaugen Linekeren with variations on all of these. I have not been able to find any information on line about the existence of farms during the mid-to-last part of the 1700’s. How should I accurately identify these individuals? These suffixes could have been added to the information I have found by other researchers. I have no idea if the people themselves used these/ Sue Nelson Barham

I'm not sure I fully understand what you are asking. Often the larger farms are subdivided into smaller farms which also have individual names which may include the larger farm name. For example Sonsterud may be the large farm, but sub-divided into Sonsterud Lille, Sonsterud Nedre, Sonsterudmoen, etc. So, the suffix is actually part of the farm name. It appears that Ringebu has a bygdebok -- community history that usual has a couple hundred years worth of individuals who have resided on particular farms. Although written in Norwegian, the genealogical information is typically very easily discerned. Is that helpful at all? Rod Kurth On 2018-07-23 11:45, Sue Barham wrote: > To any "experts" on Norwegian geography and naming practices > > I am researching a number of individuals in Ringebu, Oppland fylke. There > seems to be a pattern of using: > > Given name, patronymic surname, farm name, to which is added > identification of perhaps a bruk? > > Using Rygh's farm listing, I am not sure if these "farm" names should be > used in total, or stop at the end of the farm name itself and making note of > the additional information in note section. > > An example: > > Jens Jakobsen was born in Nordbu farm, #9, Venabygd parish, Ringebu, in > 1775. > > He was the son of Jakob Halvorsen Nordbu and Abelone Jensdatter. > > Connected with this family, father, son, siblings, etc., I find: > > Nordbusstuen > > Sæterstuen > > Sagbakken > > Nordbusstugua > > Brandstadhaugen > > Linekeren > > with variations on all of these. I have not been able to find any > information on line about the existence of farms during the mid-to-last part > of the 1700's. > > How should I accurately identify these individuals? > > These suffixes could have been added to the information I have found by > other researchers. I have no idea if the people themselves used these/ > > Sue Nelson Barham > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html [1] > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm [2] > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref [3] > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway [4] > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY [5] Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 [6] > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog [7] > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community Links: ------ [1] http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html [2] http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm [3] http://bit.ly/rootswebpref [4] https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway [5] https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY [6] https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 [7] http://rootsweb.blog

You may already have it, but just in case --  Otto's site is a good place to start.  Especially his Norwegian to English dictionary.  Before Rootsweb was taken down, the Norway list had a great site that had lots of info from knowledgeable people. Otto's site does have some of those links, but they are not available now.  Hopefully, Ancestry will see fit to put them back on line. Here is Otto's URL.  I hope it will help with some of your questions.    Joy https://otjoerge.wordpress.com/norwegian-american-dictionary/ On 7/23/2018 9:45 AM, Sue Barham wrote: > To any “experts” on Norwegian geography and naming practices > > > > I am researching a number of individuals in Ringebu, Oppland fylke. There > seems to be a pattern of using: > > Given name, patronymic surname, farm name, to which is added > identification of perhaps a bruk? > > > > Using Rygh’s farm listing, I am not sure if these “farm” names should be > used in total, or stop at the end of the farm name itself and making note of > the additional information in note section. > > > > An example: > > > > Jens Jakobsen was born in Nordbu farm, #9, Venabygd parish, Ringebu, in > 1775. > > He was the son of Jakob Halvorsen Nordbu and Abelone Jensdatter. > > > > Connected with this family, father, son, siblings, etc., I find: > > Nordbusstuen > > Sæterstuen > > Sagbakken > > Nordbusstugua > > Brandstadhaugen > > Linekeren > > with variations on all of these. I have not been able to find any > information on line about the existence of farms during the mid-to-last part > of the 1700’s. > > > > How should I accurately identify these individuals? > > > > These suffixes could have been added to the information I have found by > other researchers. I have no idea if the people themselves used these/ > > > > Sue Nelson Barham > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

If a man lived at the farm Nordbu, he was called Jakob Halvorsen (of) Nordbu. If he and the family moved to another farm called Sagbakken, He wil be registraed as Jakob Halvorsen (of) Sagbakken The use of farmnames as an Addressname was because it should be possible to identify all Ole Olsen etc. by the place the lived. But makes it harder to track follow the couple/family throgh thir liftime. That's how I understand it. Halvor in Lier -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Sue Barham <suebarham@comcast.net> Sendt: mandag 23. juli 2018 18.45 Til: norway@rootsweb.com Emne: [NOR] Help with suffixes after farm surnames To any “experts” on Norwegian geography and naming practices I am researching a number of individuals in Ringebu, Oppland fylke. There seems to be a pattern of using: Given name, patronymic surname, farm name, to which is added identification of perhaps a bruk? Using Rygh’s farm listing, I am not sure if these “farm” names should be used in total, or stop at the end of the farm name itself and making note of the additional information in note section. An example: Jens Jakobsen was born in Nordbu farm, #9, Venabygd parish, Ringebu, in 1775. He was the son of Jakob Halvorsen Nordbu and Abelone Jensdatter. Connected with this family, father, son, siblings, etc., I find: Nordbusstuen Sæterstuen Sagbakken Nordbusstugua Brandstadhaugen Linekeren with variations on all of these. I have not been able to find any information on line about the existence of farms during the mid-to-last part of the 1700’s. How should I accurately identify these individuals? These suffixes could have been added to the information I have found by other researchers. I have no idea if the people themselves used these/ Sue Nelson Barham _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Me too Halvor ;o) Don in Maine USA ---------------------------------------- From: "Halvor Stokke" <halstokk@broadpark.no> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:29 PM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: [NOR] Re: Help with suffixes after farm surnames If a man lived at the farm Nordbu, he was called Jakob Halvorsen (of) Nordbu. If he and the family moved to another farm called Sagbakken, He wil be registraed as Jakob Halvorsen (of) Sagbakken The use of farmnames as an Addressname was because it should be possible to identify all Ole Olsen etc. by the place the lived. But makes it harder to track follow the couple/family throgh thir liftime. That's how I understand it. Halvor in Lier -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Sue Barham <suebarham@comcast.net> Sendt: mandag 23. juli 2018 18.45 Til: norway@rootsweb.com Emne: [NOR] Help with suffixes after farm surnames To any “experts” on Norwegian geography and naming practices I am researching a number of individuals in Ringebu, Oppland fylke. There seems to be a pattern of using: Given name, patronymic surname, farm name, to which is added identification of perhaps a bruk? Using Rygh’s farm listing, I am not sure if these “farm” names should be used in total, or stop at the end of the farm name itself and making note of the additional information in note section. An example: Jens Jakobsen was born in Nordbu farm, #9, Venabygd parish, Ringebu, in 1775. He was the son of Jakob Halvorsen Nordbu and Abelone Jensdatter. Connected with this family, father, son, siblings, etc., I find: Nordbusstuen Sæterstuen Sagbakken Nordbusstugua Brandstadhaugen Linekeren with variations on all of these. I have not been able to find any information on line about the existence of farms during the mid-to-last part of the 1700’s. How should I accurately identify these individuals? These suffixes could have been added to the information I have found by other researchers. I have no idea if the people themselves used these/ Sue Nelson Barham _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Me too! I had a lot of trouble with my g grandfather's farm name, because it was a very common one. Often they described characteristics of the farm. My g grandfather's was Haugen; hauge means "hill," I'm told. He was, apparently, born on a farm named Haugen in one prestegeld. Later, I'm not sure when, but between censuses, he moved with his family to another farm named Haugen in another prestegeld that was adjoining. It took me years to tell the two apart, partly because I couldn't use DigitalArchives and some kind soul sent me part of one of the census data that did not include the farm number. So I didn't realize they were two different farms. Later in my research, I worked with a man who lived in the town my g grandfather and his wife later moved to. Now he was using his farm name as his surname! My correspondent sent me a map showing the farms, and the second Haugen farm was next door to the farm his wife grew up on, and which they lived on for several years after their marriage. In her case, there were several farms with the same "first name" but with added suffixes. My mother had told me that my g grandmother's family hadn't wanted her to marry him because he was "beneath her." Suddenly looking at the map, I saw why. She grew up on the original farm, and in fact because there were no male heirs, she inherited it and owned it in her own name. The sub-farms were all much smaller. Haugen was small, and not subdivided. This family, when they emigrated, ended up taking yet another name. Very confusing! One of my great aunts, their daughter, married a man named Fatland, who was from one of only two farms in all of Norway with that name. Both men kept the name in the US. I'd have thought the name meant something like "good land." But really it means "bad land" for farming. Google Maps showed me my family came from beautiful land on an island, mountain views. But the land itself was almost all bare rock scraped bare of soil, as if by glaciers. I'm glad they kept the name though, as researching them is easy! Hope some of this is useful, Doris On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Don Angevine <dangevin@megalink.net> wrote: > > Me too Halvor ;o) > > Don in Maine USA > > > > ---------------------------------------- > From: "Halvor Stokke" <halstokk@broadpark.no> > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 2:29 PM > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NOR] Re: Help with suffixes after farm surnames > If a man lived at the farm Nordbu, he was called Jakob Halvorsen (of) > Nordbu. > If he and the family moved to another farm called Sagbakken, He wil be > registraed as Jakob Halvorsen (of) Sagbakken > > The use of farmnames as an Addressname was because it should be possible to > identify all Ole Olsen etc. by the place the lived. > But makes it harder to track follow the couple/family throgh thir liftime. > > That's how I understand it. > > Halvor in Lier > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: Sue Barham <suebarham@comcast.net> > Sendt: mandag 23. juli 2018 18.45 > Til: norway@rootsweb.com > Emne: [NOR] Help with suffixes after farm surnames > > To any “experts” on Norwegian geography and naming practices > > I am researching a number of individuals in Ringebu, Oppland fylke. There > seems to be a pattern of using: > > Given name, patronymic surname, farm name, to which is added > identification of perhaps a bruk? > > Using Rygh’s farm listing, I am not sure if these “farm” names should be > used in total, or stop at the end of the farm name itself and making note > of > the additional information in note section. > > An example: > > Jens Jakobsen was born in Nordbu farm, #9, Venabygd parish, Ringebu, in > 1775. > > He was the son of Jakob Halvorsen Nordbu and Abelone Jensdatter. > > Connected with this family, father, son, siblings, etc., I find: > > Nordbusstuen > > Sæterstuen > > Sagbakken > > Nordbusstugua > > Brandstadhaugen > > Linekeren > > with variations on all of these. I have not been able to find any > information on line about the existence of farms during the mid-to-last > part > of the 1700’s. > > How should I accurately identify these individuals? > > These suffixes could have been added to the information I have found by > other researchers. I have no idea if the people themselves used these/ > > Sue Nelson Barham > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/norway > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/norway > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >