I just happened to think, this wasn't from the courthouse it was from the Washington State Digital Archives. You might be able to find what you want, or most of it from home without having to go thru several others. Worth trying anyway? Leslie Quist ----- Original Message ----- From: Lars E. Oyane To: Leslie Quist Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [NOR] Help to find family in the Seatle, WA area? Dear Leslie! Thank you very much for sending me the report from the courthouse with the information from the marriage certificate! YES, it is indeed «my» John Jorgensen, although his name seems kind of «corrupt»… He always went by John J. Jorgensen, but we have his birthdate to prove he is the one who was born in Chippewa Co., WI on Oct. 20, 1878! And he had the younger brother Carl…! What I don’t understand, is the reference to Lewiston, ID, since I can find no trace of the family in that area! I keep my fingers and toes well crossed that you may succeed in finding additional information about this couple at the main library. Maybe some write-ups in the local paper such as a wedding announcement? Or could it be the Catholic church has records of the marriage with additional information? Thanks again, Leslie, for your efforts in this matter. It is indeed very much appreciated! Good Luck! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 3, 2018, at 2:38 PM, Leslie Quist <mamakitty@charter.net> wrote: Hermiston is a loooong way from here. Last time I was through there was over 40 years ago. The report goes thusly. 'There is a place online called Washington State Digital Archives. I went there and found a marriage certificate for John Jos. Jorgenson of Lewiston Idaho and Miss Anna Schmitz of Yakima. Their certificate was dated 2 April 1913 and the marriage date is the 14th of April 1913. They were married by L.A. LaMontague, Pastor, A Roman Catholic Priest.' Is this your John Jorgenson? The middle name doesn't track with the info I have seen from you. I haven't had time to go downtown to the main library lately, when I do, I will be sure to email you what I find. Leslie Quist Dear Leslie! Thank you very much for your message which just arrived. NO, I have seen no report from you on the list regarding the Jorgensen/Schmitz marriage, so please do repost it. Maybe you could also send me a report directly? Thanks a million! I am anxious to learn what you have found! By the way, I have located the last surviving daughter of Margaret Jorgensen living at Hermiston, OR. I even have a phone number for her, but she NEVER answers her phone… Maybe she is suspicious about someone calling from overseas…? You never go down that way, do you…? Here is the contact information I got: Sharon Justus 80613 Allen Ln Hermiston, OR 97838-7348 phone: (541)567-3986 Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 3, 2018, at 11:57 AM, Leslie Quist <mamakitty@charter.net> wrote: Lars, did my report on the marriage of John Jos. Jorgensen of Lewiston Id and Anna M Schmitz come thru on the list? My memory is slipping and I don't remember seeing it. If you didn't see it, let me know and I'll repost it. Leslie Quist ----- Original Message ----- From: Lars E. Oyane To: norway@rootsweb.com Cc: Sarah Thorson Little ; Sherrie Stahl ; Harold Christensen ; Leslie Quist Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [NOR] Re: Help to find family in the Seatle, WA area? Dear Leslie, Harold, Sherrie, Sarah and other Listers! Thank you all so very much for your great messages in regard to my Jorgenson family! Now with the full obituaries of Margaret Whitsett and Helen Koselke, there seems to be four surviving grandchildren of John and Anna Jorgenson’s: * Robert Crossen of Sedro Wolley, WA (with the same phone number that I have tried for days listed on Ronald Crossen) * Sharon Justus of Hermiston, OR (whose number works, and I have left her a message!) * Marilyn Howard of Eugene, OR (whose number on whitepages is out ofd service) * Larry Koselke of Cle Elum, WA (whose number is only available on Whitepages premium…) I appreciate very much, Leslie, your willingness to do additional research in Yakima Co., WA for this family. John Jorgenson, the sheep shearer, «of Lewiston, ID» was married at Moxee, Yakima Co., WA Apr. 2, 1913 to Anna M. Schmitz, supposedly born in Yakima Co., WA Jan. 19, 1895, the daughter of Frank and Mary Schmitz. The Schmitz family lived in Yakima Co., WA at least until the 1910’s, but Frank and Mary appear to have divorced some time prior to 1920, and Mary moved to Seattle, WA! Maybe you can find church records in the Yakima, WA area including the Schmitz family helping us to Anna’s middle name? I believe they were German Catholic! Thanks again for your great assistance trying to help me with tracing this family. Hopefully I will sooner or later get hold of Sharon Justus or one of the other Jorgenson descendants… Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~ On Apr 24, 2018, at 12:04 PM, Sarah Thorson Little via NORWAY <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: Lars, it looks like she has two surviving children from her complete obituary from the East Oregonian in Pendleton, Oregon on December 11, 2003 WHITSETT -- Margaret Whitsett , 78, of Hermiston, a retired accountant,died Monday, Dec. 8, 2003, at Good Samaritan Center in Hermiston. A memorialservice will be held later with private inurnment. Mrs. Whitsett was born Aug.17, 1925, at Seattle, to John and Anna Jorgenson. She grew up and attendedschools in Seattle, then graduated from business school with a degree in accounting.In September 1960, she married Floyd A. Whitsett at Seattle. She was employedas an accountant for G.O. Guy Drugs for several years. In 1973, the Whitsettsmoved to Valdez, Alaska, and later to Anchorage, Alaska. After her retirement,the couple moved to Baker City in 1985 and to Reno, Nev., in 1992. They movedto Alger, Wash., in 1994 and to Hermiston four years ago. Mrs. Whitsett was aformer member of the Eagles and Moose lodges. She enjoyed playing cribbage,traveling, animals, loved being a grandmother and was a champion bowler. Survivorsinclude her husband, at the home; son, Robert Crossen of Alger, Wash.;daughter, Sharon Justus, of Hermiston; 11 grandchildren; and several greatgrandchildren. She was preceded in death by her parents, by a daughter, DiannaCrossen and by sons, Ron Crossen and Gary Crossen. *** Sharon Justus, 80613 Allen Lane, Hermiston, OR 541-567-3986 ~~~~~ On Apr 24, 2018, at 12:01 PM, Sherrie Stahl <sherriestahl@gmail.com> wrote: Helen Agnes KOSELKE Helen Agnes (Doucett) Koselke, 91, passed away at NW Hospital in Seattle on February 4th. Helen was born September 11, 1919 in Everett, WA, daughter to William James Doucett & Elizabeth Alyque (Reid) Doucett. Helen later moved to Ballard with her family and attended Ballard High School. She married Neil Anthony Koselke in 1949 and lived in Seattle until her passing. Helen is survived by 5 children; Marilyn Howard of Eugene, OR, Larry Koselke of Cle Elum, WA, Dennis Koselke of Camano Island, WA, Eugene Koselke of Camano Island, WA & Loreto B.C.S. Mexico, and Debra Egeck of Woodinville, WA. Helen is also survived by 11 grandchildren, 12 great grandchildren, 6 great-great grandchildren, her brother James Ronald Doucett of Monroe, WA and numerous nieces, nephews and close friends. Helen was predeceased in death by her first husband, Alfred James Jorgenson in 1948, and her husband of 45 years Neil Anthony Koselke in 1994, her son James Jorgenson in 2007 and her brother John Walter Doucett in 2007. A graveside service will be held Wednesday February 9th, 11:00 a.m. at Calvary Cemetery 5041 - 35th Ave NE, Seattle, WA. Helen requested that in lieu of flowers remembrances can be made to St. Catherine of Sienna School or Children's Hospital, both in Seattle. Sherrie stahl sherriestahl@gmail.com ~~~~~ On Tuesday, April 24, 2018, 9:47:18 AM PDT, Harold Christensen <haroldmable@hotmail.com> wrote: Lars, The 1940 census for Seattle shows Alfred Jorgenson, age 25, wife Helen, age 20, son Alfred S, age 1, and sister, Margaret, age 14. Alfred is a cement finisher working on a government project. All of these were born in Washington. Harold ~~~~~ On Apr 24, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Leslie Quist <mamakitty@charter.net> wrote: Lars, you don't say who John married in Yakima County. It is quite a large county too and covers more ground than some states. I live in Yakima, but I need a name! There are places to look and I know some of them. He may have worked for the Sheep Company that ran sheep around here about that time. I remember hearing about them when I was a child and my father knew one of the herders. Send me information and I'll spend some time looking for a marriage in 1913. The library in downtown Yakima has the archives of the Yakima Herald and Yakima Republic and also the Polks directory. The Yakima Valley Genealogy Society also has a file of the obituarys that were published in the newspaper. All neatly and alphabetically filed. But I need names! Leslie Quist ~~~~~ From: Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 5:46 AM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: [NOR] Help to find family in the Seatle, WA area? Dear Listers! I am frustrated! It appears to be soo hard to locate nowliving descendants of certain families in the Seattle, WA area, but maybe someone can help me? John Jorgensen (1878-1966) was a sheep shearer and lived for many years in Seattle, WA. He was married and had two children: * Alfred Jorgensen (1914-1948) who married Helen Doucett - she remarried Neil Koselke and died in Seattle, WA Feb. 4, 2011. Her obituary appeared isn the Seattle Times on Feb. 8, 2011. I cannot get up the actual obituary, but an «abstract» of this obituary on FamilySearch gives the following names of spouses and children: Neil Anthony Koselke, husband Marilyn Howard, daughter Larry Koselke, son Dennis Koselke, son Eugene Koselke, son Debra Egeck, daughter Alfred James Jorgenson, husband James Jorgenson, son * Margaret Jorgenson (1925-2003) married three times, 1st to Robert Lennstrom, 2nd to Crossen and 3rd to Floyd Whitsett. No obituary can be found for Margaret, but Floyd Whitsett died at Richland, OR Mar. 31, 2006, and an extract of his obituary from the East Oregonian dated Apr. 11, 2006 lists the following spouse and children: Margaret Anna Crossen, wife Dianna Crossen, daughter Gary Crossen, son Sharon Justus, daughter Ron Crossen, son Robert Crossen, son Margaret Whitsett appears to have died at Sedro Woolley, WA, and there is a Ronald Crossen in the Sedro Woolley telephone directory, but despite dozens of calls, I get no answer… Could it be that the original obituaries include more precise information about these families, or maybe someone has other suggestions how I can get in contact with family members? PS: My REAL Challenge with this family is the following: John Jorgenson (Joranger) from Hafslo (Aug. 5, 1827- ) and Caroline Jensdotter from Maalselv (Apr. 11, 1852) farmed at least until 1888 the E½ NW¼ of Section 18 in Wheaton township, Chippewa Co., WI - near the Elk Mound, WI settlement and had at least five children: * Betsy Marie Jorgenson - born 1876/1877 * John Peder Jorgenson - born Oct. 20, 1878 - ended up as a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA * Carl Jorgenson - born June 25, 1880 - was also a sheep shearer in Seattle, WA, but never married * Nels H. Jorgenson, born Dec. 27, 1882 * Christine Jorgenson, born Sep. 4, 1884 When John married in Yakima Co., WA in 1913, he was a resident of Lewiston, ID, and he may also have lived in Carbon Co., WY prior to that, but NOWHERE can I find any members of this family in the 1900 or 1910 censuses!! My hope is that children of Alfred’s or Margaret’s MAY have heard about aunt Betsy, uncle Nels or aunt Christine… Or maybe someone has other suggestions how this family can be traced?? Thanks a million for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane, a frustrated Norwegian!