Save Print Christopher A Ness in the Family Data Collection - Deaths Name: Christopher A Ness Death Date: 1885 City: Preston State: MN Country: USA Save Cancel -----Original Message----- From: Lars E. Oyane Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 7:33 AM To: norway@rootsweb.com Cc: Carol Larson Subject: [NOR] Re: Was Christian Olson Dahl really a Civil War Soldier? Dear Arne, Carol and other Listers! Thank you very much, Arne, for your message on this topic! This Christian Olson Dahl question sure has given me a lot of «head ache». There seems to be several individuals by the same name! However, the person described by you, Arne, must be the son of Ole C. Dahl (62) and wife Oline G. Dahl (63) farming 1880 in Tumuli township, Otter tail Co., MN. According to find a grave Ole C. Dahl, born Dec. 18, 1817, died Aug. 17, 1908 and is buried in the St. Olaf cemetery at Dalton, MN with wife Oline G. Dahl, born Oct. 2, 1816, died Jan. 13, 1893. Ole Christopherson and Oline Gundersdotter were married in Gausdal Co., Norway Oct. 21, 1840, and their oldest son Christian Olson (Dahl) was born in Gausdal Co., Norway Oct. 31, 1840! This information suggests, however, that when Christian Olson Dahl enlisted at Jackson, WI on Aug. 25, 1864, his age wasn’t 33, but rather 23 or almost 24! This information definitely eliminates «my» Christen Olson Dahl who emigrated in 1864 at the age of 41. So, we may consequently assume that «my» Christen Olson Dahl was never a Civil War soldier…!? But what happened to him in the US is still a BIG MYSTERY! Thanks again Arne for helping clear this up! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > On May 16, 2018, at 12:04 PM, Arne H. Trelvik <atrelvik@gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm coming late to this discussion and apologize if this material that has > already been covered. > Arne > > > Christian Oleson enlisted as a Private on 22 Aug 1864 at Jackson, > Wisconsin > He was mustered into Company I, 8th Wisconsin Infantry on 22 Aug 1864 > He was mustered out on 15 Aug 1865 > http://www.civilwardata.com/active/hdsquery.dll?SoldierHistory?U&2061842 > =========================================================== > His Alphabetical Pension Index Card contains the following: > Christian O. Dahl (alias Christian Olson) filed for an invalid pension in > Minnesota on 7 Nov 1889 for service in Co. I, 8th Wis Inf (application > #737851). He was not awarded a pension > > On 3 Apr 1891 Christian's mother, Olive G. Dahl filed for a dependent's > pension on 3 Apr 1891 in Minnesota (application #507949). She was awarded > a > pension under Certificate #333,261 > > On 6 Mar 1893, Christian's father Ole C. Dahl filed for a dependent's > pension in Minnesota on 6 Mar 1893 (application #561555). He was awarded a > pension by Certificate #380260. All 3 pension records would be filed under > Certificate #380260. > > I believe this suggests that Christian probably died before 3 Apr 1891 and > that his mother probably died before 6 Mar 1893 > https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/13424907?h=58731f&utm_campaign=bandido-webparts&utm_source=post-share- > =========================================================== > VA Pension Payment Card would be for Christian's father, Ole C. Dahl > (Certificatge #380260) who died in February 16, 1909. Only payment shown > on > the reverse side of the card is $36 in July, 1908 (stamped Milwaukee) > > FRONT > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939K-F49L-WY?i=659&cc=1832324 > BACK > https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939K-F49L-D9?i=660&cc=1832324 > > > > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:41 AM, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> > wrote: > >> Dear Carol, Sarah and other listers! >> >> First of all I would obviously also hate to see Carol spend valuable time >> at the National Archives searching for the wrong soldier. However, as I >> also wrote on May 14, which you Sarah MAY have overseen, is the >> following: >> >> ~~~~~ >> >>> On May 14, 2018, at 4:31 PM, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Sarah, Jerry and other Listers! >>> >>> Thank you very much for your quick replies in regard to the Christen >> Olson Dahl family. >>> >>> From the information that you Sarah found on him, I agree that it >> doesn’t quite sound like the man I am looking for. However, I guess he >> would have arrived just in time for enlisting in the Army in August of >> 1864, and we do know the enlisting soldiers didn’t always tell the truth >> about their age or marital status…! >>> >>> Theoretically Christen COULD have left his wife and children, for >> example o=in Chicago, IL, to enter the Army and so to say to «start a new >> life»?. We all should have in mind the recently discussed Herman >> Johaneson >> from Hafslo who in 1861 «escaped» from his pregnant wife in Norway and >> enlisted that same fall in Milwaukee, WI pretending he was about five >> years >> younger than he really was! And he remarried in 1864 without ever >> officially divorcing his wife!! >>> >>> For this reason, it MIGHT be worthwhile trying to follow up on this >> Christian Olson alias Christian Olson Dahl. Does it say where he resided >> when he enlisted? And what happened to him? If he did die in 1909, >> where >> did he die? >> _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/norway@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Dear Jerry, Carol and other Listers! Thank you very much, Jerry, for telling me about this Christopher A. Ness who supposedly died in Preston, MN in 1885, but can you please tell me the source of this information? ~~~~~ > On May 18, 2018, at 4:47 PM, Jerry Lloyd <jlloyd@midco.net> wrote: > > Christopher A Ness > in the Family Data Collection - Deaths > > Name: > Christopher A Ness > > Death Date: > 1885 > > City: > Preston > > State: > MN > > Country: > USA > ~~~~~ But what I wanted to share with you under this topic is the information which Jerry sent me off list showing a picture of Christian Olson Dahl and some fellow soldiers and also including his death date of July 3, 1863! This information again shows up in an ancestry family tree showing he was indeed part of Company I of the Wisconsin 8th Infantry. But then, if we compare with what Sarah wrote on May 13: >> Christian Olson Dahl was in Company I of the Wisconsin 8thInfantry. The card below him is forPeter B. Dahl who was in Company D of the Wisconsin 2nd Infantry. >> This Christian Oleson enrolled on August 22,1864 and mustered out August 15, 1865. Idon’t think he is who you are looking for since he was unmarried and age 33 in1864. Your Christian Olson Dahl would have been ca. 41 years of age and married. it becomes OBVIOUS to me we DO talk about two different Christian Olson Dahls! Which again opens up for a chance the one who enlisted in 1864, was «my» Christen Olson Dahl? Or have I completely misunderstood? Thanks again a million for helping me «straighten out» the two Christian Olson Dahls! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > -----Original Message----- From: Lars E. Oyane > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 7:33 AM > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Cc: Carol Larson > Subject: [NOR] Re: Was Christian Olson Dahl really a Civil War Soldier? > > Dear Arne, Carol and other Listers! > > Thank you very much, Arne, for your message on this topic! > > This Christian Olson Dahl question sure has given me a lot of «head ache». There seems to be several individuals by the same name! > > However, the person described by you, Arne, must be the son of Ole C. Dahl (62) and wife Oline G. Dahl (63) farming 1880 in Tumuli township, Otter tail Co., MN. According to find a grave Ole C. Dahl, born Dec. 18, 1817, died Aug. 17, 1908 and is buried in the St. Olaf cemetery at Dalton, MN with wife Oline G. Dahl, born Oct. 2, 1816, died Jan. 13, 1893. > > Ole Christopherson and Oline Gundersdotter were married in Gausdal Co., Norway Oct. 21, 1840, and their oldest son Christian Olson (Dahl) was born in Gausdal Co., Norway Oct. 31, 1840! > > This information suggests, however, that when Christian Olson Dahl enlisted at Jackson, WI on Aug. 25, 1864, his age wasn’t 33, but rather 23 or almost 24! This information definitely eliminates «my» Christen Olson Dahl who emigrated in 1864 at the age of 41. So, we may consequently assume that «my» Christen Olson Dahl was never a Civil War soldier…!? > > But what happened to him in the US is still a BIG MYSTERY! > > Thanks again Arne for helping clear this up! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> On May 16, 2018, at 12:04 PM, Arne H. Trelvik <atrelvik@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I'm coming late to this discussion and apologize if this material that has >> already been covered. >> Arne >> >> >> Christian Oleson enlisted as a Private on 22 Aug 1864 at Jackson, Wisconsin >> He was mustered into Company I, 8th Wisconsin Infantry on 22 Aug 1864 >> He was mustered out on 15 Aug 1865 >> http://www.civilwardata.com/active/hdsquery.dll?SoldierHistory?U&2061842 >> =========================================================== >> His Alphabetical Pension Index Card contains the following: >> Christian O. Dahl (alias Christian Olson) filed for an invalid pension in >> Minnesota on 7 Nov 1889 for service in Co. I, 8th Wis Inf (application >> #737851). He was not awarded a pension >> >> On 3 Apr 1891 Christian's mother, Olive G. Dahl filed for a dependent's >> pension on 3 Apr 1891 in Minnesota (application #507949). She was awarded a >> pension under Certificate #333,261 >> >> On 6 Mar 1893, Christian's father Ole C. Dahl filed for a dependent's >> pension in Minnesota on 6 Mar 1893 (application #561555). He was awarded a >> pension by Certificate #380260. All 3 pension records would be filed under >> Certificate #380260. >> >> I believe this suggests that Christian probably died before 3 Apr 1891 and >> that his mother probably died before 6 Mar 1893 >> https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/13424907?h=58731f&utm_campaign=bandido-webparts&utm_source=post-share- >> =========================================================== >> VA Pension Payment Card would be for Christian's father, Ole C. Dahl >> (Certificatge #380260) who died in February 16, 1909. Only payment shown on >> the reverse side of the card is $36 in July, 1908 (stamped Milwaukee) >> >> FRONT >> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939K-F49L-WY?i=659&cc=1832324 >> BACK >> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939K-F49L-D9?i=660&cc=1832324 >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 5:41 AM, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: >> >>> Dear Carol, Sarah and other listers! >>> >>> First of all I would obviously also hate to see Carol spend valuable time >>> at the National Archives searching for the wrong soldier. However, as I >>> also wrote on May 14, which you Sarah MAY have overseen, is the following: >>> >>> ~~~~~ >>> >>>> On May 14, 2018, at 4:31 PM, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Sarah, Jerry and other Listers! >>>> >>>> Thank you very much for your quick replies in regard to the Christen >>> Olson Dahl family. >>>> >>>> From the information that you Sarah found on him, I agree that it >>> doesn’t quite sound like the man I am looking for. However, I guess he >>> would have arrived just in time for enlisting in the Army in August of >>> 1864, and we do know the enlisting soldiers didn’t always tell the truth >>> about their age or marital status…! >>>> >>>> Theoretically Christen COULD have left his wife and children, for >>> example o=in Chicago, IL, to enter the Army and so to say to «start a new >>> life»?. We all should have in mind the recently discussed Herman Johaneson >>> from Hafslo who in 1861 «escaped» from his pregnant wife in Norway and >>> enlisted that same fall in Milwaukee, WI pretending he was about five years >>> younger than he really was! And he remarried in 1864 without ever >>> officially divorcing his wife!! >>>> >>>> For this reason, it MIGHT be worthwhile trying to follow up on this >>> Christian Olson alias Christian Olson Dahl. Does it say where he resided >>> when he enlisted? And what happened to him? If he did die in 1909, where >>> did he die? >>>