Dear Mark, Greg, Jostein and other Listers! I am having a great time reading these old "episodes" from the "Wild West" involving Andrew Groves, and I wish to thank you very very much for giving me such a wonderful image of this old Norwegian "character"! Boy, were those days...! And it isn't really that long ago! From what I understand Andrew Groves must at one time been a hog farmer out in that area, maybe in Malheur Co., OR(?), before settling on the claim in Baker Co., OR. But, as far as I can ascertain, he was not yet there in 1880, and I wonder whether he may be identical to a 30 year old farm laborer Andrew Groves residing 1880 on the farm of an Irishman in Washoe Co., NV, which wouldn't be that far away. It says he was born in Michigan, but I guess they didn't pay much attention to that kind of information in the "Wild West". Thanks again for this wonderful information. Now of course I hope that something can also be found regarding Andrew Groves' wife, Clara Ryan and her 1st husband in Montrose, CO...? Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 16, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Mark Erickson via wrote: > Mining and Scientific Press, Volume 90; page 175 > 18 March 1905 > Baker County, Oregon > Below the Cavin placers A. A. Groves has drifted on his placers and will operate a giant this season. > > Drift mining was used extensively to mine placer deposits. He basically switched from surface mining > to digging a hole into the side of the mountain. He must have thought he was on top of a good claim. > > > Here’s another “wild west” bit of information. 1899 State Scalp Bounty Fund > Warrants issued in payment for bounty on coyote, wildcat, mountain lion, panther or > cougar, or grey wolf or timber wolf scalps. > 28 Sept 1899 A.A. Groves paid. (no amount listed) Warrant number 5215 > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway Andrew A. GROVES, also known as Andrew GROVE, son of 1845 emigrants from Hafslo parish, Luster Co., Norway, Andrew and Martha GROV, was born in Dane Co., WI Apr. 16, 1847. He entered the Civil War and was stationed in Kansas at the end of the War. Exactly when he "went west" is unknown, but he ended up mining for gold in Baker Co., OR. He had a claim in Cleary precinct, Baker Co., OR, but retired about 1915 moving into Baker City, OR. Relatives in Iowa who remembered Andrew, told me years ago that Andrew once had visited back "east", and he was quite a "character" with the mouth full of gold and a fairly "goldy" complexion in every way, wearing a huge thick fur coat full of gold buttons etc. At the ripe age of 80, on July 7, 1927, he was married at Vancouver, WA to Mrs. Clara A. RYAN, nee LAND, born in NY, possibly New York City, NY, about February of 1864. She had been married 1st time at Montrose, CO on Dec. 25, 1890 to Charles M. RYAN, born in Dutchess Co., NY about February of 1855 or 1857. He was a salesman and was in 1920 called a "state brace inspector" in live stock (whatever that was for a profession?). Charles and Clara mostly resided at Montrose, Montrose Co., CO where Charles died in 1925. How Clara ended up marrying Andrew Groves two years later is for me an "enigma", and the marriage didn't last very long either. Their final divorce decree was signed in Baker City, OR on Nov. 7, 1929, but in his will written that same year Andrew willed one dollar to "his dear ex-wife Clara"! Andrew remained in Baker City, OR where he died Apr. 24, 1935. Clara apparently moved back to Montrose, CO where he only son Archibald Sedgwick Ryan (1894-1955) still r! esided, and she died in 1933. Then to my questions: * Is it possible to find any information telling us approximately WHEN Andrew Grove(s) settled on his gold mine in Baker Co., OR? Maybe newspaper articles? * Then I am looking for specific dates (both birth and death) for Clara Land Ryan (Groves) (1864-1933) as well as for her 1st husband Charles M. Ryan (1857-1925)? Maybe newspaper items can be located from Colorado about them?