Dear Mark and other Listers! Mark, I have found something very interesting in the WW1 draft record system which makes me wonder whether that divorce "debate" from Portland, OR could be a year or more off? Emery Elsworth Webber's WW1 draft record from 1918 shows him as being unmarried and a ship yard worker, and his closest relative was his mother Ella Webber! Why would he be accused by Mathilda for NOT beig a ship yard worker, when he already was one? Then I found this in the WW1 draft records: John William ANDERSON, born Aug. 4, 1877, a truck driver residing on 492 1/2 E. Burnside in Portland, OR with nearest relative MATILDA ANDERSON, same address. The card is signed Sep. 12, 1918 and has an extra notation with a new address: 2957 Charles street, Seattle, WA! John's age is a perfect "match" with Mathilda's 4th husband, and they did move to Seattle, WA, so I believe this is the one we want! But then, Emery and Mathilda's divorce must have occurred BEFORE Sep of 1918. Next question: Can John and Mathilda's marriage be found in Oregon? Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Mark, Barbara, Greg and other listers! > > "What a wonderful world - and list..." Thanks a million, Mark, for having discovered the "secret" behind Mathilda's 3rd marriage! It is just amazing what these newspaper columns may include of information, as long as it's possible to search for names in them! Thanks also to Barbara and Greg for further comments! If it wasn't for Ellsworth being of German background, I would have thought they were Ole and Lena arguing in that divorce procedure from Portland...!! > > Looking around a little bit, I see that Emery Elsworth Webber on his WW1 draft says he was born Oct. 4, 1875, and he was then indeed working in the ship yards!!! The 1880 census for Rice Co., MN gives his father's name as Conrad Weber, and the family obviously got around! In 1900 they were in Grand Forks, ND, but the children born between 1887 and 1896 were born in Washington! Then by 1910 Conrad had died, and his wife had moved to Portland OR! > > Now that the "Ellsworth" part of this problem has been solved, I hope it may also be possible to find Mathilda's 4th marriage to John W. Anderson? They must have been married in the fall of 1919, between Portland, OR and Seattle, WA? > > Thanks again, Mark for once more making my day! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mar 7, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Mark Erickson via wrote: > >> The Oregon Daily Journal (Portland, Oregon) · Sun, Apr 6, 1919 · Page 10 >> DIVORCE COURT A BUSY PLACE >> E. Ellsworth Webber, a chimney sweep, alleges in a complaint for divorce >> that his wife, Matilda, nagged him continually to change his vocation >> and seek more lucrative employment in the shipyards >

Dear Listers, I have started asking myself what really happened in Portland, OR in those years preceding 1920? The 1917 Portland city directory shows, among others, these entries: * J. Wm. Anderson (Matilda), printer, res. 1917 on 308 Jackson * Emery Webber (Matilda), chimney sweep., res. 690 1/2 E Morrison Can there be a "time lag" in the city directory? Is it possible that Matilda was still "formally" married to Elmer Webber until 1919, while in "reality" she was already in 1917 a "common-law" wife of John William Anderson's? In the WW1 draft records from 1918 Elmer Webber is clearly alone, since his "nearest relative" was his mother, while John William Anderson's "nearest relative" was his wife Matilda? And yet I am convinced I have the "right" John William Anderson! They moved about 1919 to Seattle, King Co., WA where I find them in the city directories as follows: * 1920: John W. Anderson (Matilda), salesman, res. B3716 Angeline * 1922: John W. Anderson (Matilda), salesman Tent & Awning Co., res. 3716 Angeline * 1924: J Wm Anderson (Matilda), res. 4017 23rd Ave SW * 1925: John W. Anderson (Mathilda), laborer, res. 4017 23rd Ave SW * 1926: Wm Anderson (Matilda), foreman ST&A Co, res. 4015(!) 23rd Ave SW * 1927: John W Anderson (Mathilda), salesman, res. 4017 23rd Ave SW Then John married Lucette, and they are together for one year: * 1928: John W Anderson (Lucette), salesman ST&A Co, res. 713 28th Ave Lucette remained on the same address, while John moved out. Perhaps these entries are for him: * 1929: J W Anderson, res. 2320 41st Ave SW * 1930: J W Anderson, laborer, res. Hazel, WA I have always wondered what became of John William Anderson! Any suggestions? Thanks again for your wonderful assistance identifying John William Anderson and his wife/wives! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 7, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Mark and other Listers! > > Mark, I have found something very interesting in the WW1 draft record system which makes me wonder whether that divorce "debate" from Portland, OR could be a year or more off? > > Emery Elsworth Webber's WW1 draft record from 1918 shows him as being unmarried and a ship yard worker, and his closest relative was his mother Ella Webber! Why would he be accused by Mathilda for NOT beig a ship yard worker, when he already was one? > > Then I found this in the WW1 draft records: > > John William ANDERSON, born Aug. 4, 1877, a truck driver residing on 492 1/2 E. Burnside in Portland, OR with nearest relative MATILDA ANDERSON, same address. The card is signed Sep. 12, 1918 and has an extra notation with a new address: 2957 Charles street, Seattle, WA! > > John's age is a perfect "match" with Mathilda's 4th husband, and they did move to Seattle, WA, so I believe this is the one we want! > > But then, Emery and Mathilda's divorce must have occurred BEFORE Sep of 1918. > > Next question: Can John and Mathilda's marriage be found in Oregon? > > Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > >> Dear Mark, Barbara, Greg and other listers! >> >> "What a wonderful world - and list..." Thanks a million, Mark, for having discovered the "secret" behind Mathilda's 3rd marriage! It is just amazing what these newspaper columns may include of information, as long as it's possible to search for names in them! Thanks also to Barbara and Greg for further comments! If it wasn't for Ellsworth being of German background, I would have thought they were Ole and Lena arguing in that divorce procedure from Portland...!! >> >> Looking around a little bit, I see that Emery Elsworth Webber on his WW1 draft says he was born Oct. 4, 1875, and he was then indeed working in the ship yards!!! The 1880 census for Rice Co., MN gives his father's name as Conrad Weber, and the family obviously got around! In 1900 they were in Grand Forks, ND, but the children born between 1887 and 1896 were born in Washington! Then by 1910 Conrad had died, and his wife had moved to Portland OR! >> >> Now that the "Ellsworth" part of this problem has been solved, I hope it may also be possible to find Mathilda's 4th marriage to John W. Anderson? They must have been married in the fall of 1919, between Portland, OR and Seattle, WA? >> >> Thanks again, Mark for once more making my day! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On Mar 7, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Mark Erickson via wrote: >> >>> The Oregon Daily Journal (Portland, Oregon) · Sun, Apr 6, 1919 · Page 10 >>> DIVORCE COURT A BUSY PLACE >>> E. Ellsworth Webber, a chimney sweep, alleges in a complaint for divorce >>> that his wife, Matilda, nagged him continually to change his vocation >>> and seek more lucrative employment in the shipyards >>