Dear Listers! This topic has been "quiet" for quite a while, but I wanted to let you know, I am still working on it! Yesterday a friend of mine in Madison, WI was able to examine parts of the Wisconsin State Death Index, and he tells me the following: "There is NO death record found for Hans Christian in the period from 1950 thru 1960", so IF Hans died in Milwaukee, WI (or in the state of Wisconsin), he must have died between 1930 and 1950 - still a long time period to search, but I guess we have no other way of trying... My friend in Madison, WI MAY be able to check the remaining period, but it won't be for a while... Thanks again for any suggestions! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Dec 24, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Mark and other Listers! > > Merry Christmas to all of you! > > Thank you very much, Mark, for your latest comment on the Hans Halvorsen problem! I notice that you have found a couple of "possibles", who must both have been alive in 1940. So, I have examined the 1940 census! > > There seems to be no good "matches" in Waukesha Co., WI, while in Milwaukee Co., WI there are several Hans or Henry Halvorsens, including one Henry Halvorsen who is a single machinist, but he is said to be born in Wisconsin about 1898! Far too young... > > ... if only someone would have the possibility to check the Wisconsin State Death Index from 1930 thru 1958... > > Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Dec 24, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Mark Erickson via wrote: > >> I see a probate notice in the 18 March, 1954 "Waukesha Daily Freeman" that >> might help. >> >> "Hans Halvorsen, deceased, late of the Town of New Berlin, in Waukesha >> County, Wisconsin." >> >> New Berlin is South-West of Milwaukee. >> >> >> There seems to be another Halvorsen North-West of Milwaukee that sounds >> promising too. September 23, 1955 "Waukesha Daily Freeman". >> >> "Hans C. Halvorsen" of Lannon, Wis. is listed regarding property taxes. >> Might be another place to look. Both of these are in Waukesha county. >> >> >> -Mark >> >> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Barbara, Mark and other Listers! >>> >>> Thank you very much for new great messages. >>> >>> I guess we know pretty much for sure that Hans didn't return to Norway. >>> Mark's information clearly confirms this be the "right" man, and now he has >>> also showed up in the 1930 census for Milwaukee, WI under the name Hans C. >>> Holversen, but he had by then changed his occupation, being then the >>> proprietor of a clothing store, still a single man! >>> >>> So, I guess it all comes down to a research of the Milwaukee, WI death >>> records after 1930, and I wonder: Does anyone have access to the vital >>> records at the Milwaukee County courthouse? >>> >>> Thanks again for the wonderful assistance trying to solve this problem! >>> >>> Very sincerely yours, >>> >>> Lars E. Oyane >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Mark Erickson via wrote: >>> >>>> Lars, >>>> >>>> Here's a link to "Wisconsin, Milwaukee Petitions to Naturalization, >>>> 1848-1991," on FamilySearch. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/q89jxqe >>>> >>>> >>>> This man came to America 28 June, 1908 from Liverpool, England to New >>> York >>>> on the vessel "Republic". >>>> >>>> >>>> His occupation is a machinist. He was born 15 October 1869 in Bergen, >>>> Norway. >>>> >>>> >>>> A handwritten letter by Mr. Halvorsen is clipped to the application. It >>>> says he missed the court date because his time had expired, but he >>> intends >>>> to submit a new application for first papers. That letter, and other >>> pages >>>> give his address as Milwaukee, WI., but one of the pages claims he >>> resides >>>> in New Haven, Michigan. >>>> >>>> >>>> It sounds like he started the application process in Michigan. He first >>>> declared his intention to become a US citizen on 7 Sept., 1918 in >>> Detroit, >>>> Michigan. >>>> >>>> >>>> -Mark >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Listers! >>>>> >>>>> We now know that Hans Christian Halvorsen never did marry his 1st cousin >>>>> Christine Krogh! However, we still don't know what became of Hans after >>>>> 1918! >>>>> >>>>> Now I have discovered an interesting document on ancestry.com: >>>>> >>>>> One Henry Christian Halvorsen of 379 21st Aveniue in Milwaukee, WI >>> applied >>>>> in June of 1926 for Citizenship. He gave his date and place of birth as >>>>> Oct. 15, 1869 in Norway and said he arrived in New York on June 28, >>> 1906. >>>>> Witnesses were Ernest W. Neitzke and Albert Hansen. Apparently his >>>>> application was denied since he never showed up...(?) >>>>> >>>>> "Our" Hans Christian Halvorsen was born Oct. 22, 1869, and he arrived in >>>>> Boston, MA heading for New York on June 28, 1908. >>>>> >>>>> Despite small differences in name, birth date and arrival year in >>> America >>>>> I feel there are so many similarities that I strongly suspect we speak >>> of >>>>> the same person!? Or what do you think? >>>>> >>>>> Milwaukee, WI is such a hard place to do research, but maybe someone >>> comes >>>>> up with an idea how further facts can be found about this Hans/Henry? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again a million for any suggestions! >>>>> >>>>> Merry Christmas! >>>>> >>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>> >>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Cliff and other Listers! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you very much, Cliff, for your good instructions! Now I found >>> the >>>>> document, and I notice it dates from 1918! >>>>>> >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Cliff Lien via wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Search for HALOORSON Lars... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cliff Lien >>>>>>> Alberta, Canada >>>>>>> cjl@interbaun.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Lars E. Oyane via >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:26 AM >>>>>>> To: norway@rootsweb.com >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NOR] Hans Christian Halvorsen, born Bergen 1869, >>>>> emigrated 1908 to Boston, MA - later to Chicago,IL - then to Detroit, >>> MI - >>>>> destiny? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Jerrald, Barbara and other Listers! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you very much for your messages in regard to my problem with >>> Hans >>>>> C. Halvorsen. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> First of all I have strong doubts Hans was ever part of WW1. He was >>>>> for several years working as a machinist in South Africa before he >>>>> emigrated, and the last we know he worked in the Ford factory. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then I notice that you Jerrald found Hans' naturalization file, but >>>>> where is it? I have searched for it on ancestry myself, and I just >>> don't >>>>> see it! It would have been very interesting to know WHEN he applied for >>>>> the US citizenship... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have been searching for city directories from Chicago, IL as well as >>>>> from Detroit, MI, but I fail to find any directories covering the period >>>>> Hans was there... Maybe I have looked in the wrong place? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks again for helping me figure out Hans Halvorsen's destiny! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Jerrald Lloyd via wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> changes. ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> U.S. Naturalization Records Indexes, 1794-1995 >>>>>>>> about Hans Christian Haloorson >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Name: >>>>>>>> Hans Christian Haloorson >>>>>>>> [Hans Christian Halvorsen] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Birth Date: >>>>>>>> 15 Oct 1869 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> State: >>>>>>>> Michigan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Locality, Court: >>>>>>>> Detroit, District Court >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> View image >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 7:51 AM >>>>>>>> To: <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>> Subject: [NOR] Hans Christian Halvorsen, born Bergen 1869,emigrated >>>>> 1908 to Boston, MA - later to Chicago,IL - then to Detroit, MI - >>> destiny? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Listers, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have for years been trying to figure out what became of this >>>>> gentleman from Bergen whose last known residence was in or near >>> Detroit, MI >>>>> in 1917: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hans Christian Halvorsen >>>>>>>>> born Oct. 22, 1869 in Bergen, Norway >>>>>>>>> (parents Halvor Hansen and Anna Christophersdotter) >>>>>>>>> emigrated 1903 to Cape Town, South Africa to work as a machinist >>>>>>>>> returned to Bergen >>>>>>>>> emigrated 1908 to Boston, MA to work as a machinist >>>>>>>>> may have lived for a while in New York City(?) >>>>>>>>> in 1912 and 1914 his address is given as North California Avenue in >>>>> Chicago, IL >>>>>>>>> moved in 1915 to Detroit, MI >>>>>>>>> in October 1916 known to be working at "Ford Expedition" in Detroit, >>>>> MI earning $6 a day! >>>>>>>>> in 1916 he purchased a piece of land (must have been near Detroit, >>>>> MI) where he went "every Saturday"! >>>>>>>>> in August 1917 his brother Kristoffer Halvorsen (then a resident of >>>>> Milwaukee, WI) went to visit, and he reported that "Hans is now "steady" >>>>> (sounds like he may have had a "problem" of some kind, maybe liquor?)". >>>>> Hans was then residing on his farm growing corn, potatoes, cabbage, >>> onions >>>>> and beans, and he drove a Ford Automobile! Hans was in 1917 still a >>> single >>>>> man, but according to his brother he was "wishing to get a wife, >>> thinking >>>>> in particular of his widowed cousin, Mrs. Krogh, aged 45, who had a >>>>> daughter aged 20". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In 1918 the brother Kristoffer Halvorsen returned to Norway, and no >>>>> other news of Hans have been found, except he was still alive when his >>>>> mother >>>>>>>>> Anna died in Norway in 1926. He is then referred to as "Hans >>>>> Halvorsen in the United States" - no address given! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have seen a couple of Hans Halvorsens in Brooklyn, NY with fairly >>>>> close information, but I am not convinced of any of them, particularly >>> when >>>>> we know he did live in Michigan as late as the fall of 1917! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It would be such a great Christmas gift for me to learn what became >>>>> of Hans Halvorsen. and I thank you very much in advance for any >>> suggestions! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lars E. Oyane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Lars, He would have been up in age and have you found he was sharing a home with anyone during the former years? He may have needed a caretaker? Or perhaps he was a caretaker to someone else? Just a thought.:} Take care. SIncerely, Barbara in MA On 2/3/2015 9:24 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Listers! > > This topic has been "quiet" for quite a while, but I wanted to let you know, I am still working on it! Yesterday a friend of mine in Madison, WI was able to examine parts of the Wisconsin State Death Index, and he tells me the following: > > "There is NO death record found for Hans Christian in the period from 1950 thru 1960", > > so IF Hans died in Milwaukee, WI (or in the state of Wisconsin), he must have died between 1930 and 1950 - still a long time period to search, but I guess we have no other way of trying... My friend in Madison, WI MAY be able to check the remaining period, but it won't be for a while... > > Thanks again for any suggestions! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Dec 24, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > >> Dear Mark and other Listers! >> >> Merry Christmas to all of you! >> >> Thank you very much, Mark, for your latest comment on the Hans Halvorsen problem! I notice that you have found a couple of "possibles", who must both have been alive in 1940. So, I have examined the 1940 census! >> >> There seems to be no good "matches" in Waukesha Co., WI, while in Milwaukee Co., WI there are several Hans or Henry Halvorsens, including one Henry Halvorsen who is a single machinist, but he is said to be born in Wisconsin about 1898! Far too young... >> >> ... if only someone would have the possibility to check the Wisconsin State Death Index from 1930 thru 1958... >> >> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On Dec 24, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Mark Erickson via wrote: >> >>> I see a probate notice in the 18 March, 1954 "Waukesha Daily Freeman" that >>> might help. >>> >>> "Hans Halvorsen, deceased, late of the Town of New Berlin, in Waukesha >>> County, Wisconsin." >>> >>> New Berlin is South-West of Milwaukee. >>> >>> >>> There seems to be another Halvorsen North-West of Milwaukee that sounds >>> promising too. September 23, 1955 "Waukesha Daily Freeman". >>> >>> "Hans C. Halvorsen" of Lannon, Wis. is listed regarding property taxes. >>> Might be another place to look. Both of these are in Waukesha county. >>> >>> >>> -Mark >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Barbara, Mark and other Listers! >>>> >>>> Thank you very much for new great messages. >>>> >>>> I guess we know pretty much for sure that Hans didn't return to Norway. >>>> Mark's information clearly confirms this be the "right" man, and now he has >>>> also showed up in the 1930 census for Milwaukee, WI under the name Hans C. >>>> Holversen, but he had by then changed his occupation, being then the >>>> proprietor of a clothing store, still a single man! >>>> >>>> So, I guess it all comes down to a research of the Milwaukee, WI death >>>> records after 1930, and I wonder: Does anyone have access to the vital >>>> records at the Milwaukee County courthouse? >>>> >>>> Thanks again for the wonderful assistance trying to solve this problem! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Mark Erickson via wrote: >>>> >>>>> Lars, >>>>> >>>>> Here's a link to "Wisconsin, Milwaukee Petitions to Naturalization, >>>>> 1848-1991," on FamilySearch. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/q89jxqe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This man came to America 28 June, 1908 from Liverpool, England to New >>>> York >>>>> on the vessel "Republic". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> His occupation is a machinist. He was born 15 October 1869 in Bergen, >>>>> Norway. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A handwritten letter by Mr. Halvorsen is clipped to the application. It >>>>> says he missed the court date because his time had expired, but he >>>> intends >>>>> to submit a new application for first papers. That letter, and other >>>> pages >>>>> give his address as Milwaukee, WI., but one of the pages claims he >>>> resides >>>>> in New Haven, Michigan. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It sounds like he started the application process in Michigan. He first >>>>> declared his intention to become a US citizen on 7 Sept., 1918 in >>>> Detroit, >>>>> Michigan. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Mark >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Listers! >>>>>> >>>>>> We now know that Hans Christian Halvorsen never did marry his 1st cousin >>>>>> Christine Krogh! However, we still don't know what became of Hans after >>>>>> 1918! >>>>>> >>>>>> Now I have discovered an interesting document on ancestry.com: >>>>>> >>>>>> One Henry Christian Halvorsen of 379 21st Aveniue in Milwaukee, WI >>>> applied >>>>>> in June of 1926 for Citizenship. He gave his date and place of birth as >>>>>> Oct. 15, 1869 in Norway and said he arrived in New York on June 28, >>>> 1906. >>>>>> Witnesses were Ernest W. Neitzke and Albert Hansen. Apparently his >>>>>> application was denied since he never showed up...(?) >>>>>> >>>>>> "Our" Hans Christian Halvorsen was born Oct. 22, 1869, and he arrived in >>>>>> Boston, MA heading for New York on June 28, 1908. >>>>>> >>>>>> Despite small differences in name, birth date and arrival year in >>>> America >>>>>> I feel there are so many similarities that I strongly suspect we speak >>>> of >>>>>> the same person!? Or what do you think? >>>>>> >>>>>> Milwaukee, WI is such a hard place to do research, but maybe someone >>>> comes >>>>>> up with an idea how further facts can be found about this Hans/Henry? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again a million for any suggestions! >>>>>> >>>>>> Merry Christmas! >>>>>> >>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>> >>>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>>> >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Cliff and other Listers! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you very much, Cliff, for your good instructions! Now I found >>>> the >>>>>> document, and I notice it dates from 1918! >>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Cliff Lien via wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Search for HALOORSON Lars... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cliff Lien >>>>>>>> Alberta, Canada >>>>>>>> cjl@interbaun.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Lars E. Oyane via >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:26 AM >>>>>>>> To: norway@rootsweb.com >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NOR] Hans Christian Halvorsen, born Bergen 1869, >>>>>> emigrated 1908 to Boston, MA - later to Chicago,IL - then to Detroit, >>>> MI - >>>>>> destiny? >>>>>>>> Dear Jerrald, Barbara and other Listers! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you very much for your messages in regard to my problem with >>>> Hans >>>>>> C. Halvorsen. >>>>>>>> First of all I have strong doubts Hans was ever part of WW1. He was >>>>>> for several years working as a machinist in South Africa before he >>>>>> emigrated, and the last we know he worked in the Ford factory. >>>>>>>> Then I notice that you Jerrald found Hans' naturalization file, but >>>>>> where is it? I have searched for it on ancestry myself, and I just >>>> don't >>>>>> see it! It would have been very interesting to know WHEN he applied for >>>>>> the US citizenship... >>>>>>>> I have been searching for city directories from Chicago, IL as well as >>>>>> from Detroit, MI, but I fail to find any directories covering the period >>>>>> Hans was there... Maybe I have looked in the wrong place? >>>>>>>> Thanks again for helping me figure out Hans Halvorsen's destiny! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Jerrald Lloyd via wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> changes. ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> U.S. Naturalization Records Indexes, 1794-1995 >>>>>>>>> about Hans Christian Haloorson >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Name: >>>>>>>>> Hans Christian Haloorson >>>>>>>>> [Hans Christian Halvorsen] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Birth Date: >>>>>>>>> 15 Oct 1869 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> State: >>>>>>>>> Michigan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Locality, Court: >>>>>>>>> Detroit, District Court >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> View image >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 7:51 AM >>>>>>>>> To: <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [NOR] Hans Christian Halvorsen, born Bergen 1869,emigrated >>>>>> 1908 to Boston, MA - later to Chicago,IL - then to Detroit, MI - >>>> destiny? >>>>>>>>>> Dear Listers, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have for years been trying to figure out what became of this >>>>>> gentleman from Bergen whose last known residence was in or near >>>> Detroit, MI >>>>>> in 1917: >>>>>>>>>> Hans Christian Halvorsen >>>>>>>>>> born Oct. 22, 1869 in Bergen, Norway >>>>>>>>>> (parents Halvor Hansen and Anna Christophersdotter) >>>>>>>>>> emigrated 1903 to Cape Town, South Africa to work as a machinist >>>>>>>>>> returned to Bergen >>>>>>>>>> emigrated 1908 to Boston, MA to work as a machinist >>>>>>>>>> may have lived for a while in New York City(?) >>>>>>>>>> in 1912 and 1914 his address is given as North California Avenue in >>>>>> Chicago, IL >>>>>>>>>> moved in 1915 to Detroit, MI >>>>>>>>>> in October 1916 known to be working at "Ford Expedition" in Detroit, >>>>>> MI earning $6 a day! >>>>>>>>>> in 1916 he purchased a piece of land (must have been near Detroit, >>>>>> MI) where he went "every Saturday"! >>>>>>>>>> in August 1917 his brother Kristoffer Halvorsen (then a resident of >>>>>> Milwaukee, WI) went to visit, and he reported that "Hans is now "steady" >>>>>> (sounds like he may have had a "problem" of some kind, maybe liquor?)". >>>>>> Hans was then residing on his farm growing corn, potatoes, cabbage, >>>> onions >>>>>> and beans, and he drove a Ford Automobile! Hans was in 1917 still a >>>> single >>>>>> man, but according to his brother he was "wishing to get a wife, >>>> thinking >>>>>> in particular of his widowed cousin, Mrs. Krogh, aged 45, who had a >>>>>> daughter aged 20". >>>>>>>>>> In 1918 the brother Kristoffer Halvorsen returned to Norway, and no >>>>>> other news of Hans have been found, except he was still alive when his >>>>>> mother >>>>>>>>>> Anna died in Norway in 1926. He is then referred to as "Hans >>>>>> Halvorsen in the United States" - no address given! >>>>>>>>>> I have seen a couple of Hans Halvorsens in Brooklyn, NY with fairly >>>>>> close information, but I am not convinced of any of them, particularly >>>> when >>>>>> we know he did live in Michigan as late as the fall of 1917! >>>>>>>>>> It would be such a great Christmas gift for me to learn what became >>>>>> of Hans Halvorsen. and I thank you very much in advance for any >>>> suggestions! >>>>>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lars E. Oyane >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Lars, I might add, that there were far fewer Nursing homes, and other places where the elderly might be placed if needed. SInce he was single, there may not have been someone to see to his needs and he may have been with friends or someone who opened their doors to those who needed help. My grandmother used to care for friends and relatives and friends of friends , who could no longer carry on by themselves - and this went into the 1950s. There were some Old Aged Homes that were sponsored by the public, for the needy. The folks my grandmother cared for were able to get around and needed transportation to doctor's appointments or the doctors came to the house. SHe did not get into what might better be called a Nurse. One man was there for years and had his own garden where he and my grandfather were in competition as to who could harvest the peas first and woe be if they peeked at the other's garden.:} The gardens were set apart on the farm. SIncerely, Barbara in MA Sincerely, Barbara in MA On 2/3/2015 9:24 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Listers! > > This topic has been "quiet" for quite a while, but I wanted to let you know, I am still working on it! Yesterday a friend of mine in Madison, WI was able to examine parts of the Wisconsin State Death Index, and he tells me the following: > > "There is NO death record found for Hans Christian in the period from 1950 thru 1960", > > so IF Hans died in Milwaukee, WI (or in the state of Wisconsin), he must have died between 1930 and 1950 - still a long time period to search, but I guess we have no other way of trying... My friend in Madison, WI MAY be able to check the remaining period, but it won't be for a while... > > Thanks again for any suggestions! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Dec 24, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > >> Dear Mark and other Listers! >> >> Merry Christmas to all of you! >> >> Thank you very much, Mark, for your latest comment on the Hans Halvorsen problem! I notice that you have found a couple of "possibles", who must both have been alive in 1940. So, I have examined the 1940 census! >> >> There seems to be no good "matches" in Waukesha Co., WI, while in Milwaukee Co., WI there are several Hans or Henry Halvorsens, including one Henry Halvorsen who is a single machinist, but he is said to be born in Wisconsin about 1898! Far too young... >> >> ... if only someone would have the possibility to check the Wisconsin State Death Index from 1930 thru 1958... >> >> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On Dec 24, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Mark Erickson via wrote: >> >>> I see a probate notice in the 18 March, 1954 "Waukesha Daily Freeman" that >>> might help. >>> >>> "Hans Halvorsen, deceased, late of the Town of New Berlin, in Waukesha >>> County, Wisconsin." >>> >>> New Berlin is South-West of Milwaukee. >>> >>> >>> There seems to be another Halvorsen North-West of Milwaukee that sounds >>> promising too. September 23, 1955 "Waukesha Daily Freeman". >>> >>> "Hans C. Halvorsen" of Lannon, Wis. is listed regarding property taxes. >>> Might be another place to look. Both of these are in Waukesha county. >>> >>> >>> -Mark >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Barbara, Mark and other Listers! >>>> >>>> Thank you very much for new great messages. >>>> >>>> I guess we know pretty much for sure that Hans didn't return to Norway. >>>> Mark's information clearly confirms this be the "right" man, and now he has >>>> also showed up in the 1930 census for Milwaukee, WI under the name Hans C. >>>> Holversen, but he had by then changed his occupation, being then the >>>> proprietor of a clothing store, still a single man! >>>> >>>> So, I guess it all comes down to a research of the Milwaukee, WI death >>>> records after 1930, and I wonder: Does anyone have access to the vital >>>> records at the Milwaukee County courthouse? >>>> >>>> Thanks again for the wonderful assistance trying to solve this problem! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> On Dec 24, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Mark Erickson via wrote: >>>> >>>>> Lars, >>>>> >>>>> Here's a link to "Wisconsin, Milwaukee Petitions to Naturalization, >>>>> 1848-1991," on FamilySearch. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/q89jxqe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This man came to America 28 June, 1908 from Liverpool, England to New >>>> York >>>>> on the vessel "Republic". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> His occupation is a machinist. He was born 15 October 1869 in Bergen, >>>>> Norway. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A handwritten letter by Mr. Halvorsen is clipped to the application. It >>>>> says he missed the court date because his time had expired, but he >>>> intends >>>>> to submit a new application for first papers. That letter, and other >>>> pages >>>>> give his address as Milwaukee, WI., but one of the pages claims he >>>> resides >>>>> in New Haven, Michigan. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It sounds like he started the application process in Michigan. He first >>>>> declared his intention to become a US citizen on 7 Sept., 1918 in >>>> Detroit, >>>>> Michigan. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Mark >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Listers! >>>>>> >>>>>> We now know that Hans Christian Halvorsen never did marry his 1st cousin >>>>>> Christine Krogh! However, we still don't know what became of Hans after >>>>>> 1918! >>>>>> >>>>>> Now I have discovered an interesting document on ancestry.com: >>>>>> >>>>>> One Henry Christian Halvorsen of 379 21st Aveniue in Milwaukee, WI >>>> applied >>>>>> in June of 1926 for Citizenship. He gave his date and place of birth as >>>>>> Oct. 15, 1869 in Norway and said he arrived in New York on June 28, >>>> 1906. >>>>>> Witnesses were Ernest W. Neitzke and Albert Hansen. Apparently his >>>>>> application was denied since he never showed up...(?) >>>>>> >>>>>> "Our" Hans Christian Halvorsen was born Oct. 22, 1869, and he arrived in >>>>>> Boston, MA heading for New York on June 28, 1908. >>>>>> >>>>>> Despite small differences in name, birth date and arrival year in >>>> America >>>>>> I feel there are so many similarities that I strongly suspect we speak >>>> of >>>>>> the same person!? Or what do you think? >>>>>> >>>>>> Milwaukee, WI is such a hard place to do research, but maybe someone >>>> comes >>>>>> up with an idea how further facts can be found about this Hans/Henry? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again a million for any suggestions! >>>>>> >>>>>> Merry Christmas! >>>>>> >>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>> >>>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>>> >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Cliff and other Listers! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you very much, Cliff, for your good instructions! Now I found >>>> the >>>>>> document, and I notice it dates from 1918! >>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 16, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Cliff Lien via wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Search for HALOORSON Lars... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cliff Lien >>>>>>>> Alberta, Canada >>>>>>>> cjl@interbaun.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Lars E. Oyane via >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:26 AM >>>>>>>> To: norway@rootsweb.com >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NOR] Hans Christian Halvorsen, born Bergen 1869, >>>>>> emigrated 1908 to Boston, MA - later to Chicago,IL - then to Detroit, >>>> MI - >>>>>> destiny? >>>>>>>> Dear Jerrald, Barbara and other Listers! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you very much for your messages in regard to my problem with >>>> Hans >>>>>> C. Halvorsen. >>>>>>>> First of all I have strong doubts Hans was ever part of WW1. He was >>>>>> for several years working as a machinist in South Africa before he >>>>>> emigrated, and the last we know he worked in the Ford factory. >>>>>>>> Then I notice that you Jerrald found Hans' naturalization file, but >>>>>> where is it? I have searched for it on ancestry myself, and I just >>>> don't >>>>>> see it! It would have been very interesting to know WHEN he applied for >>>>>> the US citizenship... >>>>>>>> I have been searching for city directories from Chicago, IL as well as >>>>>> from Detroit, MI, but I fail to find any directories covering the period >>>>>> Hans was there... Maybe I have looked in the wrong place? >>>>>>>> Thanks again for helping me figure out Hans Halvorsen's destiny! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 15, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Jerrald Lloyd via wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> changes. ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> U.S. Naturalization Records Indexes, 1794-1995 >>>>>>>>> about Hans Christian Haloorson >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Name: >>>>>>>>> Hans Christian Haloorson >>>>>>>>> [Hans Christian Halvorsen] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Birth Date: >>>>>>>>> 15 Oct 1869 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> State: >>>>>>>>> Michigan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Locality, Court: >>>>>>>>> Detroit, District Court >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> View image >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 7:51 AM >>>>>>>>> To: <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [NOR] Hans Christian Halvorsen, born Bergen 1869,emigrated >>>>>> 1908 to Boston, MA - later to Chicago,IL - then to Detroit, MI - >>>> destiny? >>>>>>>>>> Dear Listers, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have for years been trying to figure out what became of this >>>>>> gentleman from Bergen whose last known residence was in or near >>>> Detroit, MI >>>>>> in 1917: >>>>>>>>>> Hans Christian Halvorsen >>>>>>>>>> born Oct. 22, 1869 in Bergen, Norway >>>>>>>>>> (parents Halvor Hansen and Anna Christophersdotter) >>>>>>>>>> emigrated 1903 to Cape Town, South Africa to work as a machinist >>>>>>>>>> returned to Bergen >>>>>>>>>> emigrated 1908 to Boston, MA to work as a machinist >>>>>>>>>> may have lived for a while in New York City(?) >>>>>>>>>> in 1912 and 1914 his address is given as North California Avenue in >>>>>> Chicago, IL >>>>>>>>>> moved in 1915 to Detroit, MI >>>>>>>>>> in October 1916 known to be working at "Ford Expedition" in Detroit, >>>>>> MI earning $6 a day! >>>>>>>>>> in 1916 he purchased a piece of land (must have been near Detroit, >>>>>> MI) where he went "every Saturday"! >>>>>>>>>> in August 1917 his brother Kristoffer Halvorsen (then a resident of >>>>>> Milwaukee, WI) went to visit, and he reported that "Hans is now "steady" >>>>>> (sounds like he may have had a "problem" of some kind, maybe liquor?)". >>>>>> Hans was then residing on his farm growing corn, potatoes, cabbage, >>>> onions >>>>>> and beans, and he drove a Ford Automobile! Hans was in 1917 still a >>>> single >>>>>> man, but according to his brother he was "wishing to get a wife, >>>> thinking >>>>>> in particular of his widowed cousin, Mrs. Krogh, aged 45, who had a >>>>>> daughter aged 20". >>>>>>>>>> In 1918 the brother Kristoffer Halvorsen returned to Norway, and no >>>>>> other news of Hans have been found, except he was still alive when his >>>>>> mother >>>>>>>>>> Anna died in Norway in 1926. He is then referred to as "Hans >>>>>> Halvorsen in the United States" - no address given! >>>>>>>>>> I have seen a couple of Hans Halvorsens in Brooklyn, NY with fairly >>>>>> close information, but I am not convinced of any of them, particularly >>>> when >>>>>> we know he did live in Michigan as late as the fall of 1917! >>>>>>>>>> It would be such a great Christmas gift for me to learn what became >>>>>> of Hans Halvorsen. and I thank you very much in advance for any >>>> suggestions! >>>>>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lars E. 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Dear Listers! I wanted to let you know, I have still not given up trying to find the death of Hans Christian Halvorsen, presumably died in Milwaukee, WI after 1930. Now the Wisconsin state death index has been examined for the period 1940-1960, but still no success. And then I have found this entry, and I feel quite sure this must be him, in the Milwaukee, WI 1933 city directory: ~~~~~ Name: Hans C Halvorsen Residence Year: 1933 Street address: 102 N 50th pi Residence Place: Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA Publication Title: Milwaukee, Wisconsin, City Directory, 1933 ~~~~~ The next city directory I can find is from 1939, and there I do NOT find him! So it seems like we're getting closer... Thanks again to all of your for your great assistance trying to figure out what finally became of our Hans! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Feb 3, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Listers! > > This topic has been "quiet" for quite a while, but I wanted to let you know, I am still working on it! Yesterday a friend of mine in Madison, WI was able to examine parts of the Wisconsin State Death Index, and he tells me the following: > > "There is NO death record found for Hans Christian in the period from 1950 thru 1960", > > so IF Hans died in Milwaukee, WI (or in the state of Wisconsin), he must have died between 1930 and 1950 - still a long time period to search, but I guess we have no other way of trying... My friend in Madison, WI MAY be able to check the remaining period, but it won't be for a while... > > Thanks again for any suggestions! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Dec 24, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > >> Dear Mark and other Listers! >> >> Merry Christmas to all of you! >> >> Thank you very much, Mark, for your latest comment on the Hans Halvorsen problem! I notice that you have found a couple of "possibles", who must both have been alive in 1940. So, I have examined the 1940 census! >> >> There seems to be no good "matches" in Waukesha Co., WI, while in Milwaukee Co., WI there are several Hans or Henry Halvorsens, including one Henry Halvorsen who is a single machinist, but he is said to be born in Wisconsin about 1898! Far too young... >> >> ... if only someone would have the possibility to check the Wisconsin State Death Index from 1930 thru 1958... >> >> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On Dec 24, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Mark Erickson via wrote: >> >>> I see a probate notice in the 18 March, 1954 "Waukesha Daily Freeman" that >>> might help. >>> >>> "Hans Halvorsen, deceased, late of the Town of New Berlin, in Waukesha >>> County, Wisconsin." >>> >>> New Berlin is South-West of Milwaukee. >>> >>> >>> There seems to be another Halvorsen North-West of Milwaukee that sounds >>> promising too. September 23, 1955 "Waukesha Daily Freeman". >>> >>> "Hans C. Halvorsen" of Lannon, Wis. is listed regarding property taxes. >>> Might be another place to look. Both of these are in Waukesha county. >>> >>> >>> -Mark >>> >>>