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    1. [NOR] Charles Gudmundsen - lifelong seaman of Brooklyn, NY (1892- ) - help to interpret seaman titles - died when?
    2. Lars E. Oyane via
    3. Dear Listers! Do we have any experts on seaman titles? Karl Johan aka Charles John Gudmundsen born in Bergen, Norway Sep. 2, 1892 emigrated in 1911 as a "jungmann" (mate?) to America and married in Bronx Co., NY June 4, 1921 to Ruth Christensdotter Landaas, born in Mandal, Norway Sep. 24, 1891. The couple resided in Brooklyn, Kings Co., NY Charles supposedly died in Brooklyn, NY, and as a widow Ruth moved to Bethel, Sullivan Co., NY, but she died at Cheshire, CT Nov. 25, 1980. Charles Gudmundsen is recorded many times on ancestry.com being a seaman and sailing, I would say, all over the world. He obviously started out as a "mate", then I see in 1934 he is referred to as a "chief offer", and from about 1940 he was a "master". The last time I find him as such is in 1953, when he sailed to Bremerhaven in Germany. Only in a newspaper clipping from 1946 he is referred to as a "skipper" sailing from Mexico to San Francisco, CA. Can anyone help me, please, to explain these seaman titles of Charles'? The very last entry on ancestry.com is from 1954 when he was on a flight by SAS from Oslo to New York! We know Charles was dead by 1968 (when a sister of his died in Bergen, Norway), as he was then survived by children Karl, Gerd and Borre, but so far I have been unable to find an exact date (and place) of his death! Can anyone help me, please? Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

    05/05/2015 10:37:18
    1. Re: [NOR] Charles Gudmundsen - lifelong seaman of Brooklyn, NY (1892- ) - help to interpret seaman titles - died when?
    2. Kay Jetton via
    3. Lars,  Found the following on Ancestry.  Looks as if it might be your Charles John Gudmundsen. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=deathsamericancitizenabroad&h=141285&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=6482 Kay Jetton in S. Illinois On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 4:41 AM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: Dear Listers! Do we have any experts on seaman titles? Karl Johan aka Charles John Gudmundsen born in Bergen, Norway Sep. 2, 1892 emigrated in 1911 as a "jungmann" (mate?) to America and married in Bronx Co., NY June 4, 1921 to Ruth Christensdotter Landaas, born in Mandal, Norway Sep. 24, 1891. The couple resided in Brooklyn, Kings Co., NY Charles supposedly died in Brooklyn, NY, and as a widow Ruth moved to Bethel, Sullivan Co., NY, but she died at Cheshire, CT Nov. 25, 1980. Charles Gudmundsen is recorded many times on ancestry.com being a seaman and sailing, I would say, all over the world.  He obviously started out as a "mate", then I see in 1934 he is referred to as a "chief offer", and from about 1940 he was a "master".  The last time I find him as such is in 1953, when he sailed to Bremerhaven in Germany.  Only in a newspaper clipping from 1946 he is referred to as a "skipper" sailing from Mexico to San Francisco, CA.  Can anyone help me, please, to explain these seaman titles of Charles'? The very last entry on ancestry.com is from 1954 when he was on a flight by SAS from Oslo to New York! We know Charles was dead by 1968 (when a sister of his died in Bergen, Norway), as he was then survived by children Karl, Gerd and Borre, but so far I have been unable to find an exact date (and place) of his death!  Can anyone help me, please? Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/06/2015 06:38:37