http://www.arkivportalen.no/side/arkiv/detaljer?arkivId=no-a1450-01000001614213 Your first link came through with the last three digits on the following line. Hopefully the one above will come through as one complete link. Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Bergquist via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: norway@rootsweb.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 9:18 PM Subject: [NOR] Finnemanntallet 1686 Hi all, I am still reading the Norway List, but busy with career. Do any of you know if I can access the Finnemanntallet 1686 online? It is a census of people of Finnish descent living in Norway then. I found one link, http://www.arkivportalen.no/side/arkiv/detaljer?arkivId=no-a1450-01000001614 213 that says it has the census in its contents, but I cannot access it. Some DNA information and an email from a man in Finland suggested that I may have an ancestor from this cultural group, called the Forest Finns, who immigrated to Norway or Sweden in the 1600s. If so, it would be my first ancestor who is not Norwegian or Swedish! You can read about this cultural group here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Finns Apparently, the largest number of Forest Finns in Norway were in Hedmark. Best, Jim B in Minnesota

​Jim, Your message caught my eye when I saw it, but I've been offline for several days without a chance to reply. Using the complete Arkivportalen URL that Bev sent to the list, I didn't see anything clearly about the Finnemanntallet, but using that site's search feature did return a few results, though probably none of them what you are looking for, I'm guessing: http://www.arkivportalen.no/side/sok/avansert?enkeltSok=true&sokeVerdi=Finnemanntallet Googling "Finnemanntallet" returned one particularly promising result, from the Nasjonalbiblioteket site, but it is available only to Norwegian-based IP addresses: http://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/357922e2cc096d4c58b971f4064ebc35 It was written by Erik Opsahl and published by the *Norsk historisk kjeldeskrift-institutt* in Oslo in 1990. Possibly one of our Norwegian colleagues, or someone with a VPN service, can verify whether that book is actually a transcription of the Finnemanntallet. On the Arkivverket site, there is a complete list of publications they offer that includes the same Finnemanntallet work that is at the Nasjonalbiblioteket site, but an asterisk indicates that the resource is no longer available. One other resource I came across is what I understand to be digital images of the original Finnemanntallet document, provided by Kari Thingvold on her personal Picasa site (if I have misunderstood these images, someone please correct me): https://picasaweb.google.com/114651696693889317875/SRStNorge1686Finnemanntall# Translating directly from those images would be quite a challenge, but if you saw a name you recognized, I imagine someone on this list could do it. For my own part, I have learned only in the past several months that my mother's paternal lineage is Forest Finn. The revelation first came through DNA which showed a distinctive North Eurasian haplotype (N-M231), which is relatively rare in Norway, but is very common in Finland. Quite an unexpected surprise, to be sure! I also joined the Forest Finn DNA Project at Family Tree DNA, and immediately got substantial help from that project that linked my existing paper trail back to a known Forest Finn family (Siekkinen). It sounds like in your case the linkage may be through autosomal DNA, which will make that connection harder, though by no means impossible, to find. Keep in mind, too, that making a direct link back to the Finnemanntallet may be too big a leap to make initially, unless you have a very complete and well-research tree back to that time period. If you tested through Family Tree DNA, I strongly encourage you to join the Forest Finn DNA Project and start asking questions on its forum page. If you tested through another company, that project won't be available to you, but I can put you in touch with someone helpful who can probably provide some assistance. I wish you the best! James Aylard ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Bergquist via <norway@rootsweb.com> > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 9:18 PM > Subject: [NOR] Finnemanntallet 1686 > > Hi all, I am still reading the Norway List, but busy with career. > > Do any of you know if I can access the Finnemanntallet 1686 online? It is a > census of people of Finnish descent living in Norway then. I found one > link, > > http://www.arkivportalen.no/side/arkiv/detaljer?arkivId=no-a1450-01000001614 > 213 > that says it has the census in its contents, but I cannot access it. > > Some DNA information and an email from a man in Finland suggested that I > may > have an ancestor from this cultural group, called the Forest Finns, who > immigrated to Norway or Sweden in the 1600s. If so, it would be my first > ancestor who is not Norwegian or Swedish! > > You can read about this cultural group here: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Finns > Apparently, the largest number of Forest Finns in Norway were in Hedmark. > > Best, > Jim B in Minnesota > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > -- James Aylard