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    1. Re: [NOR] Civil War vet. & Gold miner Andrew Groves of Baker Co., OR (1847-1935) - a colorful person! - who was his wife?
    2. Lars E. Oyane via
    3. Dear Jostein and other Listers! Thank you very much Jostein for correcting that occupation title. Ancestry.com had it interpreted "state brace inspector", but looking at the original 1920 census for Montrose, CO it certainly does say "state brand inspector". I suppose he was then responsible for inspecting that cattle was identified with the correct brand mark? Now I am hoping for some success finding newspaper items on these people... Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 15, 2015, at 11:29 PM, jaasland via wrote: > Lars, > > Look at the possibility that "state brace inspector" is "state brand inspector." That is indentification brands on cattle. > > Jostein > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 9:30:13 PM > Subject: [NOR] Civil War vet. & Gold miner Andrew Groves of Baker Co., OR (1847-1935) - a colorful person! - who was his wife? > > Dear Listers, > > Today I wish to share with you the biography of a rather "colorful" person whose wife I am having trouble finding precise information about: > > Andrew A. GROVES, also known as Andrew GROVE, son of 1845 emigrants from Hafslo parish, Luster Co., Norway, Andrew and Martha GROV, was born in Dane Co., WI Apr. 16, 1847. He entered the Civil War and was stationed in Kansas at the end of the War. Exactly when he "went west" is unknown, but he ended up mining for gold in Baker Co., OR. He had a claim in Cleary precinct, Baker Co., OR, but retired about 1915 moving into Baker City, OR. Relatives in Iowa who remembered Andrew, told me years ago that Andrew once had visited back "east", and he was quite a "character" with the mouth full of gold and a fairly "goldy" complexion in every way, wearing a huge thick fur coat full of gold buttons etc. > > At the ripe age of 80, on July 7, 1927, he was married at Vancouver, WA to Mrs. Clara A. RYAN, nee LAND, born in NY, possibly New York City, NY, about February of 1864. She had been married 1st time at Montrose, CO on Dec. 25, 1890 to Charles M. RYAN, born in Dutchess Co., NY about February of 1855 or 1857. He was a salesman and was in 1920 called a "state brace inspector" in live stock (whatever that was for a profession?). Charles and Clara mostly resided at Montrose, Montrose Co., CO where Charles died in 1925. How Clara ended up marrying Andrew Groves two years later is for me an "enigma", and the marriage didn't last very long either. Their final divorce decree was signed in Baker City, OR on Nov. 7, 1929, but in his will written that same year Andrew willed one dollar to "his dear ex-wife Clara"! Andrew remained in Baker City, OR where he died Apr. 24, 1935. Clara apparently moved back to Montrose, CO where he only son Archibald Sedgwick Ryan (1894-1955) still r! > esided, and she died in 1933. > > Then to my questions: > > * Is it possible to find any information telling us approximately WHEN Andrew Grove(s) settled on his gold mine in Baker Co., OR? Maybe newspaper articles? > > * Then I am looking for specific dates (both birth and death) for Clara Land Ryan (Groves) (1864-1933) as well as for her 1st husband Charles M. Ryan (1857-1925)? Maybe newspaper items can be located from Colorado about them? > > * Finally, can someone please clear me up on that occupation of Charles Ryan's, state brace inspector? > > Thanks a million in advance for any assistance you can give me with this family! Again I am hoping that newspaper articles can help answer at least some of the questions... > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane >

    03/15/2015 10:09:33
    1. Re: [NOR] Civil War vet. & Gold miner Andrew Groves of Baker Co., OR (1847-1935) - a colorful person! - who was his wife?
    2. jaasland via
    3. Hei Lars, Brand inspectors usually work at cattle auctions ensuring that the brand on the cattle match the owner selling the cattle. My son-in-law has a cow-calf operation in SE Saskatchewan. The problem he and others in that area encounter is that Manitoba doesn't have brand inspectors. So to it's easy enough to steal cattle in Saskatchewan and sell them in Manitoba. On occasion he has had calls from a brand inspector at a local auction wondering why someone else is selling one of his cows. mvh, Jostein ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: norway@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 3:09:33 AM Subject: Re: [NOR] Civil War vet. & Gold miner Andrew Groves of Baker Co., OR (1847-1935) - a colorful person! - who was his wife? Dear Jostein and other Listers! Thank you very much Jostein for correcting that occupation title. Ancestry.com had it interpreted "state brace inspector", but looking at the original 1920 census for Montrose, CO it certainly does say "state brand inspector". I suppose he was then responsible for inspecting that cattle was identified with the correct brand mark? Now I am hoping for some success finding newspaper items on these people... Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 15, 2015, at 11:29 PM, jaasland via wrote: > Lars, > > Look at the possibility that "state brace inspector" is "state brand inspector." That is indentification brands on cattle. > > Jostein > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2015 9:30:13 PM > Subject: [NOR] Civil War vet. & Gold miner Andrew Groves of Baker Co., OR (1847-1935) - a colorful person! - who was his wife? > > Dear Listers, > > Today I wish to share with you the biography of a rather "colorful" person whose wife I am having trouble finding precise information about: > > Andrew A. GROVES, also known as Andrew GROVE, son of 1845 emigrants from Hafslo parish, Luster Co., Norway, Andrew and Martha GROV, was born in Dane Co., WI Apr. 16, 1847. He entered the Civil War and was stationed in Kansas at the end of the War. Exactly when he "went west" is unknown, but he ended up mining for gold in Baker Co., OR. He had a claim in Cleary precinct, Baker Co., OR, but retired about 1915 moving into Baker City, OR. Relatives in Iowa who remembered Andrew, told me years ago that Andrew once had visited back "east", and he was quite a "character" with the mouth full of gold and a fairly "goldy" complexion in every way, wearing a huge thick fur coat full of gold buttons etc. > > At the ripe age of 80, on July 7, 1927, he was married at Vancouver, WA to Mrs. Clara A. RYAN, nee LAND, born in NY, possibly New York City, NY, about February of 1864. She had been married 1st time at Montrose, CO on Dec. 25, 1890 to Charles M. RYAN, born in Dutchess Co., NY about February of 1855 or 1857. He was a salesman and was in 1920 called a "state brace inspector" in live stock (whatever that was for a profession?). Charles and Clara mostly resided at Montrose, Montrose Co., CO where Charles died in 1925. How Clara ended up marrying Andrew Groves two years later is for me an "enigma", and the marriage didn't last very long either. Their final divorce decree was signed in Baker City, OR on Nov. 7, 1929, but in his will written that same year Andrew willed one dollar to "his dear ex-wife Clara"! Andrew remained in Baker City, OR where he died Apr. 24, 1935. Clara apparently moved back to Montrose, CO where he only son Archibald Sedgwick Ryan (1894-1955) still! r! > esided, and she died in 1933. > > Then to my questions: > > * Is it possible to find any information telling us approximately WHEN Andrew Grove(s) settled on his gold mine in Baker Co., OR? Maybe newspaper articles? > > * Then I am looking for specific dates (both birth and death) for Clara Land Ryan (Groves) (1864-1933) as well as for her 1st husband Charles M. Ryan (1857-1925)? Maybe newspaper items can be located from Colorado about them? > > * Finally, can someone please clear me up on that occupation of Charles Ryan's, state brace inspector? > > Thanks a million in advance for any assistance you can give me with this family! Again I am hoping that newspaper articles can help answer at least some of the questions... > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/16/2015 03:54:18
    1. Re: [NOR] Civil War vet. & Gold miner Andrew Groves of Baker Co., OR (1847-1935) - a colorful person! - who was his wife?
    2. Mark Erickson via
    3. Mining and Scientific Press, Volume 90; page 175 18 March 1905 Baker County, Oregon Below the Cavin placers A. A. Groves has drifted on his placers and will operate a giant this season. Drift mining was used extensively to mine placer deposits. He basically switched from surface mining to digging a hole into the side of the mountain. He must have thought he was on top of a good claim. Here’s another “wild west” bit of information. 1899 State Scalp Bounty Fund Warrants issued in payment for bounty on coyote, wildcat, mountain lion, panther or cougar, or grey wolf or timber wolf scalps. 28 Sept 1899 A.A. Groves paid. (no amount listed) Warrant number 5215

    03/16/2015 05:14:52