Don, Sorry about the wee hours of the night, though sometimes my best work gets done then, too. Certainly my only interruption then is my cat coming between me and my monitor. Yes, I want all the records you found. Where Kari Mari/Carrie was at various times is very interesting. Since she married Peter in IA in 1874, it's most unlikely her parents and her six youngest siblings came to her in 1875, since they settled in Richland Co, ND. That's not far away, but some of them stayed in that county for decades. There are two other siblings who also emigrated before 1875, or at least are not listed with those who came that year. So far, none of my research on any of the Fatland family has included IA. Clearly, I need to expand it to include that state. Interestingly, the two Ancestry trees I was going by gave different years for Kari's death. One was 1875, the other 1925. It looks like you've conclusively proven she lived past 1920, so 1925 may well be correct. Or it's an estimate in the middle of the decade. As Lars keeps saying, maybe some newspaper work might sort it out! Can one of the A-team give this death a try? We have some of the survivors, and she was probably still in that part of IA. Thank you so much for all your work, Don. By all means send your results to me off list. This family is connected to Kitty's Fatland family and home farm way back in Norway, but has no connection at all with the family of the same name that Steve is tracing, as Cliff has been careful to point out. Doris On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Don Angevine <donangevine@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Doris, Kitty, Cliff, others, > > Just for grins, in the wee hours of the last two nights, I have been > following Kari Mari/Carrie and Peter Peterson Bergeland/Bergland only, and > in the USA only. I have them from the 1860 thru 1940 US Censuses, and > including some Minnesota State Censuses as well. To be clear, I have not > tried to find either emigrating from Norway, or entering the USA. And, > though I know Kari/Carrie lived late in life, through 1920, with one of her > daughters, and I believe she died between 1920 and 1930, I have not been > able to find a death or burial record for her anywhere. So that is still > open to question, as is where, when, and to whom Kari/Carrie first came in > the USA, most likely in Winneshiek County, Iowa. > > Peter Peterson Bergeland/Bergland and his first wife Serena Serie [Sarah] > immigrated in 1851, according to the 1900 US Census, with daughter Anna. > The 1855 WI Census is of the "head-of-household" variety, and I could not > find a combination of Male, Females, and Foreign born, that worked, and the > details of the census are so limited, to not be helpful. However, from > subsequent other records, it is clear that they were in Wisconsin, and > three of their children were born there. > > Peter and Sarah are found next in 1860 in the town of LeRoy, Morris, MN. > 1870 they are in or near Ossian, Military Twp, Winneshiek Co, IA. > > Sarah dies and is buried in Ossian, IA, Nov. 18, 1873. Peter and Kari are > married in Dover, IA, only about 11 miles from Ossian, IA, 26 Jan 1874. > This could be the actual location of Peter's residence/farm in Iowa. This > of course raises all kinds of questions about how/when/where they met and > knew each other; about what Kari was doing in IA, and what other possible > family of hers might have been there at that time. But, clearly Kari Mari > left Norway before 1874. > > I could not find them in any 1875 census. By 1880, Peter and Carrie are > living in Westfield, Dodge, MN, with their two daughters. None of Peter's > other/previous children are with them, though three were under the age of > 12 when their mother died. One can speculate that they were taken in by > their older married siblings? > > By 1900, Peter and Kari have settled in the village of Dawson, Riverside > Twp, Lac Qui Parle, MN, where Peter dies and was buried in 1904, and where > Carrie stays through the 1905 MN, 1910 US, and 1920 US censuses. At the > last, she is living with her daughter Josie and husband, Ole P Ness, and > their daughter, Clarise. > > Ole and Josie have moved to near by Stevens county, to Morris, in Morris > Twp., in 1930 and 1940, but Carrie is not with them. I did search for > Carrie in those censuses, and in the MN death index, but I did not find > her, including not with other of her children. Incidentally, I did not find > death data for Ole and Josie either. I suspect that Carrie is likely buried > in the same cemetery as Peter, Grace Lutheran Cemetery, in Dawson, MN. > > The outcome of this work is upward of 20 files which I will send along > piecemeal to Doris, and Kitty as well, if you let me know you want them. > These folks had large families, so this search of this one branch of the > Hanson Fatlands could go on forever! > > Don Angevine > Maine, USA > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Doris Waggoner <waggonerdoris@gmail.com> > *To:* Don Angevine <donangevine@yahoo.com> > *Sent:* Monday, March 16, 2015 11:06 PM > *Subject:* Kari Mari Fatland's descendants > > Hi, Don, > > I forgot to say that there are some obvious problems with the family group > sheets I sent you earlier. In at least one case I remember, someone was > born after the death of a mother. Life doesn't work that way, usually, > though women can die in childbirth and the child can survive. But in this > case, the child was born years after the mother died. That could be a > typo, but without sources, there's no way to tell. > > Again, thanks, > Doris > > > >