***I discovered a little button near the top of the census data page on the right, just left of the blue box that says Source information.  It says "Show List."  Click that and the format changes to something similar to what we were used to seeing on DA#1, the census formatting which always looked so organized and neat.  That's the format that makes MUCH more sense to me because it more closely resembles what is in the hand-written records.  The new DA#3 formatting for census data has always dismayed me because it looks so scattered and disorganized. No, I still don't like DA#3 because it doesn't have an index for each fylke. and I thoroughly dislike doing a general search and have to wade through records from all over the country that don't apply..., but I'll take these little advantages like "Show List" as I find them because it makes life easier.  I still want indices like DA#1 so I know what records and transcriptions are available for each fylke/sogn/prestegjeld. I'll put DA#3 Fylke/Sogn/Prestegjeld Indices on my Wish List to Santa Claus.  ;-) Beste, Bev ***

Thank you, Joanne!  :-)  This helps enormously. I'm having a dickens of a time sorting out which parishes I need to look at in Oslo.  I scrolled through Jakob, Grønlund, Domkirke, and Johannes parishes last night before I fell asleep over my keyboard. I still can't find Kaspara/Caspara Gunderson, starting with Nov. 1878 and continuing on through a year of documents in case she wasn't baptized right away.  There are other parishes to look through, but last night I found a couple of records, downloaded them, and I'll have to ask the list for other help with one or two of them. I wonder if there are maps of the various parishes in Oslo that have the names of the churches in those parishes?  Most of my research is in fylke/sogn/parish areas where there aren't more than two or three churches involved.  The parish in which they were living in the 1885 census does not have records via Digitalarkivet, so I'm at a loss as to where Kaspara might have been baptized. It doesn't help that the family moved around.... I just got up, so will do a quick lunch and then back to research. Thanks again! Bev On 6/12/2018 11:25 AM, Joanne Becker wrote: > Bev, > > Familysearch.org has the following information, but, unfortunately, no > church name: > > Nils Kristian Gundersen (son of Anton Hovel Gundersen) > Born 28 April 1883 > Christened 1 July 1883 > Died 30 December 1884 > > Joanne >

In the "Citing This Record" area for that birth/baptism, it gives the film number 1,282,971. Looking in the catalog, there are two possibilities. At least it narrows it down a bit. This family seems to have been in a different church for each record! 1. Item 1, Item 2: Kirkebøker, 1880-1913 <https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/39267> Author: Den Norske kirke. Petrus menighet (Oslo) Add 2. Item 4, Item 3: Kirkebøker, 1818-1897 <https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/39259> Author: Den Norske kirke. Rikshospitalet og Kvinneklinikken (Oslo) <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Joanne Becker <lookn4kin@gmail.com> wrote: > Bev, > > Familysearch.org has the following information, but, unfortunately, no > church name: > > Nils Kristian Gundersen (son of Anton Hovel Gundersen) > Born 28 April 1883 > Christened 1 July 1883 > Died 30 December 1884 > > Joanne > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/ > index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ > norway@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > norway@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Bev, Familysearch.org has the following information, but, unfortunately, no church name: Nils Kristian Gundersen (son of Anton Hovel Gundersen) Born 28 April 1883 Christened 1 July 1883 Died 30 December 1884 Joanne

Yes, it does!  :-)  Thank you! Oh, dear.  More than one parish is involved with all these records....... Beste, Bev On 6/11/2018 7:37 PM, Annette Bowen wrote: > Does this link work? > https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/5791/29540/17 > It was in Jakob prestekontor Kirkebøker, female births 1875. > > >

Does this link work? https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/5791/29540/17 It was in Jakob prestekontor Kirkebøker, female births 1875. <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 6:45 PM, Bev Anderson <bevsbibelots@brainerd.net> wrote: > Thank you! Do you have the Quick Link for that? The image link has no > Source data. Or, if it's also in Grønlund parish, I can look it up myself. > > Beste, > Bev > > On 6/11/2018 6:30 PM, Annette Bowen wrote: > >> No. 142 Gunhilde Margrete birth record >> http://urn.digitalarkivet.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060921040644.jpg >> >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_ >> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> >> Virus-free. >> www.avg.com >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_ >> source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> >> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Bev Anderson <bevsbibelots@brainerd.net> >> wrote: >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list= > norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/norway@ > rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@ > rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Thank you!  Do you have the Quick Link for that?  The image link has no Source data.  Or, if it's also in Grønlund parish, I can look it up myself. Beste, Bev On 6/11/2018 6:30 PM, Annette Bowen wrote: > No. 142 Gunhilde Margrete birth record > http://urn.digitalarkivet.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060921040644.jpg > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > Virus-free. > www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Bev Anderson <bevsbibelots@brainerd.net> > wrote: >

No. 142 Gunhilde Margrete birth record http://urn.digitalarkivet.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060921040644.jpg <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Bev Anderson <bevsbibelots@brainerd.net> wrote: > Holy Mackerel...! :-) I take a short break to eat something, and come > back to these pleasant surprises! > > Can anyone read Anton's occupation? Or the locations each were born? The > rest I can understand. > > Mange Tusen Takk, Joanne! > > > On 6/11/2018 4:25 PM, Joanne Becker wrote: > >> Bev, >> >> Anton Hovel Gundersen, *1833, married Marie Andersen, * 1839, on Dec. 11, >> 1870 at Grønland Parish in Oslo, page 497, # 85 bottom of page. >> >> https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/5788/204 >> >> Joanne >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list= > norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/norway@ > rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@ > rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Holy Mackerel...!  :-) I take a short break to eat something, and come back to these pleasant surprises! Can anyone read Anton's occupation?  Or the locations each were born?  The rest I can understand. Mange Tusen Takk, Joanne! On 6/11/2018 4:25 PM, Joanne Becker wrote: > Bev, > > Anton Hovel Gundersen, *1833, married Marie Andersen, * 1839, on Dec. 11, > 1870 at Grønland Parish in Oslo, page 497, # 85 bottom of page. > > https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/5788/204 > > Joanne > >

Thanks, Halvor.  I'll now send the map to the relevant people.  :-) Bev On 6/11/2018 5:54 PM, Halvor Stokke wrote: > Looks correct to me > > Halvor > >

Looks correct to me Halvor -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Bev Anderson <bevsbibelots@brainerd.net> Sendt: mandag 11. juni 2018 22.57 Til: norway@rootsweb.com Emne: [NOR] Re: Kaspara/Caspara Gundersen Halvor - I did a search for Snippen 5 and came up with this: https://kart.gulesider.no/?c=59.923775,10.769348&z=14&q=%22Snippen%205%20,%20OSLO%22;geo Do you think I got the correct link? It's silly, I know, but the woman needing the information is a school teacher who is going to retire next year, and I want to be correct in the data I send since she will only have three days in Oslo. I already informed her and her other family members that they likely won't find any graves because they're re-used, but she was so hoping to find a location where Kaspara lived, even if there are newer buildings there now. Thanks, again! Bev On 6/11/2018 2:40 PM, Halvor Stokke wrote: > I find a street called SNIPPEN between Gûnerløkka an hasle,but numbers > end at #25 today > > https://kart.gulesider.no/?c=59.923430,10.770326&z=14&q=%22Snippe%20,% > 20OSLO%22;211702779;geo > > Halvor in Lier > _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/norway@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Mange Tusen Takk!  :-)  This will thrill the family for whom I am doing this research! Bev On 6/11/2018 4:12 PM, Joanne Becker wrote: > Bev, > > In Familysearch.org, the parents are listed as Anton Haavel Gundersen and > Marie Andersen. > The children listed are: > > Gunhild Margrete Gundersen, born 19 Nov. 1875, Christened 26 Dec. 1875, > Jakob Menighet, Oslo, Askerhus > Nils Kristian Gundersen, born 28 April 1883, Christened July 1, 1883 > Hulda Marie Gundersen, Christened 27 July 1873 > Kaspara/Caspara was not listed. > > You will find Hulda's baptism here: > > https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/659/308 > > I apologize for not having the correct source information. I have not been > on the website since all of the changes were made. > She is the last item - # 173 - at the bottom of page 298 in the Domkircken > records of 1873. > > Joanne from MN > > _______________________________________________ >

Bev, Anton Hovel Gundersen, *1833, married Marie Andersen, * 1839, on Dec. 11, 1870 at Grønland Parish in Oslo, page 497, # 85 bottom of page. https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/5788/204 Joanne

Bev, In Familysearch.org, the parents are listed as Anton Haavel Gundersen and Marie Andersen. The children listed are: Gunhild Margrete Gundersen, born 19 Nov. 1875, Christened 26 Dec. 1875, Jakob Menighet, Oslo, Askerhus Nils Kristian Gundersen, born 28 April 1883, Christened July 1, 1883 Hulda Marie Gundersen, Christened 27 July 1873 Kaspara/Caspara was not listed. You will find Hulda's baptism here: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/659/308 I apologize for not having the correct source information. I have not been on the website since all of the changes were made. She is the last item - # 173 - at the bottom of page 298 in the Domkircken records of 1873. Joanne from MN

Halvor - I did a search for Snippen 5 and came up with this: https://kart.gulesider.no/?c=59.923775,10.769348&z=14&q=%22Snippen%205%20,%20OSLO%22;geo Do you think I got the correct link? It's silly, I know, but the woman needing the information is a school teacher who is going to retire next year, and I want to be correct in the data I send since she will only have three days in Oslo.  I already informed her and her other family members that they likely won't find any graves because they're re-used, but she was so hoping to find a location where Kaspara lived, even if there are newer buildings there now. Thanks, again! Bev On 6/11/2018 2:40 PM, Halvor Stokke wrote: > I find a street called SNIPPEN between Gûnerløkka an hasle,but numbers end at #25 today > > https://kart.gulesider.no/?c=59.923430,10.770326&z=14&q=%22Snippe%20,%20OSLO%22;211702779;geo > > Halvor in Lier >

*Tusen Takk!  I erred on that address - my fault for the typo, I'm sorry!  The address on the 1885 census is Snippen 5 (not 55).** ** **Beste,** **Bev** * On 6/11/2018 2:40 PM, Halvor Stokke wrote: > I find a street called SNIPPEN between Gûnerløkka an hasle,but numbers end at #25 today > > https://kart.gulesider.no/?c=59.923430,10.770326&z=14&q=%22Snippe%20,%20OSLO%22;211702779;geo > > Halvor in Lier > >

Thank you to all who have helped me with this Selnes dilemma. After looking at several Selneses in this small area of Norway, I pity the postal carriers of Norway who have to deliver messages to any of them! Thank you Bev, Don and Gregory! Nancy On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 5:01 PM, Bev Anderson <bevsbibelots@brainerd.net> wrote: En can mean "a" or "one" so it is a multiple use word or suffix, but context matters.  In this case, Rønningen may be an under-farm of Rønning, and Grønningen may be an under-farm of Grønning.  Don't hold me to that.  Only someone from Norway could tell you for sure.  It depends on how you find the names over a long period of time.  My Haugen's Norwegian-English Dictionary has a third way of using the word en: one, people, they, you. Not to be confused with et... which means the same thing. The naming of farms is very interesting because a suffix or prefix can denote things like a landmark - haug = hill, for instance.  Haugen = A Hill, and haug can be a prefix or suffix denoting the location of the farm.  The word Neset/Nesset (and a few other spellings I've seen since the name is prominent in my genealogy) is more common than Jones in the English/Welsh speaking world.  A nes/ness/næs is a peninsula and the word alone, or combined with another word can mean a specific location or in general.  Adding et means "a/the peninsula."  Hestnes/Hestness = horse peninsula (hest = horse, and since it's Norway, that probably means a Fjord Horse, another fascinating topic; they're gorgeous horses).  Since so many Norwegians live close to water, there are multiple combinations all over the country.  Ditto Vik, vig, wik, wig (a bay or inlet) are a few of the alternate spellings I ran across researching a family in Vik, Sogn og Fjordane that married into my family (W/V are interchangeable, as are K/Q), and I/J, sometimes Y).  The Scandinavian languages have a unique way of combining words to make another word entirely; it's an interesting feature of the languages.  See Otto's Dictionary: https://otjoerge.wordpress.com/norwegian-american-dictionary/ Again, I'm open to corrections in my interpretations and thoughts on the subject from those who know the Norwegian language far better than I do. Beste, Bev  On 6/6/2018 6:07 PM, Nancy Hunt wrote: Bev, This is most interesting! Thank you for telling me about Norgeskart. I love maps and am enjoying discovering other farms/villages. Another site "Old Maps Online" also confirmed the placement of Rissa in Indre Fosen. One of my ancestors was from Grønning. I have found several Grønning/Grønningen farms in this area. Do you know what the "en" indicates in a geographical name? I have found Rønning/Rønningen, too. Nancy On Tuesday, June 5, 2018 10:34 PM, Bev Anderson <bevsbibelots@brainerd.net> wrote: www.norgeskart.no/#!/?zoom=10&lon=245796.11&lat=7059296.27&project=seeiendom&layers=1002,1015 If this link works, it should duplicate some of the maps Don sent. As you can see, Selnes is on one side of the Trondheimsfjord entrance, and Rissa on the other; both locations aren't too far from Trondheim, which would have been the likely port of embarkation of any emigrants from the area (at least it was for my ancestors who were from that region on the southerly shore of the Skarnsundet between the Trondheimsfjorden and the Beitstadfjorden).  You asked if someone would travel 10 km in those days, but you will note on the map that that would have been ten km over mostly water to get to the destination of the church, so..., yes, they could have done so, especially if they were family members being baptized or married.  A lot of people who lived next to water in that region had rather easy access to boats, probably jekts (cargo boats) or fishing boats, and you can see that Selnes is on the shore, as is one Rissa location. The one Rissa location on the shore has to be the farm/residence, because the inland Rissa location is a church (denoted by the little flag by the name).  Wherever they landed with the boat they were probably met by someone with a horse and wagon to take them the rest of the way to the church, or perhaps at least some walked. There is a large river (Skauga, I believe) that runs inland from the fjord that would be within rather easy walking distance to the church from the shore if there is a port at that location.  You can zoom in and out and move the map to see the same locations and more, depending on how close you zoom in. http://www.norgeskart.no/#!/?zoom=9&lon=263609.67⪫=7055498.72&project=seeiendom&layers=1002,1015 I'm pretty sure the name Ridsen morphed into Rissa through the nineteenth century.  If anyone in Norway has the correct historical information that says otherwise, jump in any time and correct me. Bev

I find a street called SNIPPEN between Gûnerløkka an hasle,but numbers end at #25 today https://kart.gulesider.no/?c=59.923430,10.770326&z=14&q=%22Snippe%20,%20OSLO%22;211702779;geo Halvor in Lier -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Bev Anderson <bevsbibelots@brainerd.net> Sendt: mandag 11. juni 2018 21.21 Til: norway@rootsweb.com Emne: [NOR] Re: Kaspara/Caspara Gundersen Eeeeeeeek! Right away I have questions. :-) Is Snippen 55 the street address in Oslo? Does it still exist today? The father's occupation is listed as "Bud." I can't find anything in either Otto's Dictionary or my Haugen's that conveys just exactly what a Bud does. Thank you, again, in advance for any help! Bev On 6/11/2018 1:44 PM, Lisbeth Dyrnes wrote: > I guess that you will find them here, in the 1885 census! > > https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01053257124450 > > Lisbeth > > 2018-06-11 20:24 GMT+02:00 Bev Anderson <bevsbibelots@brainerd.net>: > >> *http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase& >> sidenr=1&filnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=109414&merk=109414#ovre >> >> Kaspara and her sister, Gunhilda/Margrethe may have been orphans when >> they left Norway (link to emigrant info above; Gunhilda was 11, >> Kaspara 8; they could have been traveling with Laura >> Hansen/Hansdatter, age 18, but she does not figure in the US >> documents I've found so far; I don't know if she's a relative or >> friend or it's just coincidence that her name appears next to the >> girls. Kaspara was allegedly adopted as a teenager by the family she >> lived with in the US and used their name on her marriage record >> (unknown if the adoption went through the courts or not). The sisters >> did settle in Massachusetts, married (I have images for each of their >> marriage records), and had children. They were each using the >> surname Gundersen in the US. Here are the combined details I've obtained from several US census and other US documents: >> >> Kaspara Gundersen, born Nov 1878 [presumably in Kristiania/Oslo where >> they were living in 1888] >> >> Gunhilda (known as Margrethe G. Gundersen in the US), born Nov 1875 >> [presumably in Kristiania/Oslo where they were living in 1888]. >> >> On the marriage license for Margrethe G. Gundersen, her parents are >> listed as Anton Gundersen and Maria Andersen, so I am assuming they >> are Kaspara's parents also. >> >> They were born in Norway and left in between census data, so I don't >> know any details about their parents other than what is on the >> marriage license for Margrethe/Gunhilda Gundersen. >> >> I've looked at microfilm images (seems like miles of microfilm >> images), but have so far had no luck finding either sister to confirm >> (or not) the names of the parents. >> >> Are these enough clues to find the birth records for Kaspara (and >> Gunhilda?) >> >> Obviously, I'm having no luck with the search engine on DA#3.... >> >> Mange Tusen Takk for any help you may be able to render. I'm hoping >> the woman I'm trying to help (along with other of her family members >> interested in their Norwegian ancestors) will be able to see where >> her gr-grandmother lived when she comes to Oslo in about three weeks; >> she will only be there three days so she won't have much time. >> >> Beste, >> Bev >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/norway@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you, Halvor!  :-)  I appreciate the info! Bev On 6/11/2018 2:27 PM, Halvor Stokke wrote: > Bud - errand boy/girl, delivery person, gopher, messenger > > Havor in Lier > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: Bev Anderson <bevsbibelots@brainerd.net> > Sendt: mandag 11. juni 2018 21.21 > Til: norway@rootsweb.com > Emne: [NOR] Re: Kaspara/Caspara Gundersen > > Eeeeeeeek! Right away I have questions. :-) > > Is Snippen 55 the street address in Oslo? Does it still exist today? > > The father's occupation is listed as "Bud." I can't find anything in either Otto's Dictionary or my Haugen's that conveys just exactly what a Bud does. > > Thank you, again, in advance for any help! > > Bev > >

Bud - errand boy/girl, delivery person, gopher, messenger Havor in Lier -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Bev Anderson <bevsbibelots@brainerd.net> Sendt: mandag 11. juni 2018 21.21 Til: norway@rootsweb.com Emne: [NOR] Re: Kaspara/Caspara Gundersen Eeeeeeeek! Right away I have questions. :-) Is Snippen 55 the street address in Oslo? Does it still exist today? The father's occupation is listed as "Bud." I can't find anything in either Otto's Dictionary or my Haugen's that conveys just exactly what a Bud does. Thank you, again, in advance for any help! Bev On 6/11/2018 1:44 PM, Lisbeth Dyrnes wrote: > I guess that you will find them here, in the 1885 census! > > https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01053257124450 > > Lisbeth > > 2018-06-11 20:24 GMT+02:00 Bev Anderson <bevsbibelots@brainerd.net>: > >> *http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase& >> sidenr=1&filnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=109414&merk=109414#ovre >> >> Kaspara and her sister, Gunhilda/Margrethe may have been orphans when >> they left Norway (link to emigrant info above; Gunhilda was 11, >> Kaspara 8; they could have been traveling with Laura >> Hansen/Hansdatter, age 18, but she does not figure in the US >> documents I've found so far; I don't know if she's a relative or >> friend or it's just coincidence that her name appears next to the >> girls. Kaspara was allegedly adopted as a teenager by the family she >> lived with in the US and used their name on her marriage record >> (unknown if the adoption went through the courts or not). The sisters >> did settle in Massachusetts, married (I have images for each of their >> marriage records), and had children. They were each using the >> surname Gundersen in the US. Here are the combined details I've obtained from several US census and other US documents: >> >> Kaspara Gundersen, born Nov 1878 [presumably in Kristiania/Oslo where >> they were living in 1888] >> >> Gunhilda (known as Margrethe G. Gundersen in the US), born Nov 1875 >> [presumably in Kristiania/Oslo where they were living in 1888]. >> >> On the marriage license for Margrethe G. Gundersen, her parents are >> listed as Anton Gundersen and Maria Andersen, so I am assuming they >> are Kaspara's parents also. >> >> They were born in Norway and left in between census data, so I don't >> know any details about their parents other than what is on the >> marriage license for Margrethe/Gunhilda Gundersen. >> >> I've looked at microfilm images (seems like miles of microfilm >> images), but have so far had no luck finding either sister to confirm >> (or not) the names of the parents. >> >> Are these enough clues to find the birth records for Kaspara (and >> Gunhilda?) >> >> Obviously, I'm having no luck with the search engine on DA#3.... >> >> Mange Tusen Takk for any help you may be able to render. I'm hoping >> the woman I'm trying to help (along with other of her family members >> interested in their Norwegian ancestors) will be able to see where >> her gr-grandmother lived when she comes to Oslo in about three weeks; >> she will only be there three days so she won't have much time. >> >> Beste, >> Bev >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/norway@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/norway@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community