I think the 'dog' would be Irish setter :) -----Original Message----- From: Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> To: norway <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Jul 30, 2018 4:33 pm Subject: [NOR] What was an iron setter in Chicago, IL in 1900? Dear Listers! Again I have run across one of those «strange» occupations: A sailor from Stavanger, Peter Andreasen, emigrated in 1887 and settled in Chicago, IL where he is called an «iron setter», both in the 1900 census and when he died in 1902. Googling this I come up with plumbing equipment or some kind of dog… Can someone please explain for me what this guy did for a living? Thanks a million! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane (sitting at 1:30 a.m. working in 88 degrees and 50 % humidity - air conditioning never was a big issue over here…) _______________________________________________Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norwayRESUBSCRIBE UNSUBhttp://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.htmlguidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norwayPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Dear Listers! Again I have run across one of those «strange» occupations: A sailor from Stavanger, Peter Andreasen, emigrated in 1887 and settled in Chicago, IL where he is called an «iron setter», both in the 1900 census and when he died in 1902. Googling this I come up with plumbing equipment or some kind of dog… Can someone please explain for me what this guy did for a living? Thanks a million! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane (sitting at 1:30 a.m. working in 88 degrees and 50 % humidity - air conditioning never was a big issue over here…)

Dear Doris, Jerry, Mark and other Listers! Thank you very much for your comments in regard to my research for Christine Trellevig in the 1870 Chicago, IL census. It sounds like I shall have a lot of pages to scan thru in order to find what I want, so that will have to be a project of its own… Too bad they didn’t add the addresses in that census…! I just did try an 1870 census search for Chicago Ward 20 for all Norwegian females born between 1810 and 1814 and got 51 alternatives, but unfortunately none of them «match» with my Christine... I noticed just like you, Jerry, a kind of funny description of the address in the 1870 city directory, but the actual directory has it correct, 165 West Erie… And since Christine had the same address in 1872, one year after the city fire, that part of town must have avoided the flames… Well, thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! Some day I am sure Christine will show up… Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > On Jul 30, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Mark Erickson <merickson1870@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Lars, > > The 1870 Census only uses Dwelling Number. Manhattan's 2nd enumeration > district was the only place you can search using a street address. The rest > of the country had to wait for the 1880 census. > > > Here's a good article about how to search the early census by address. > > https://www.nypl.org/blog/2016/07/08/genealogy-tips-searching-census-address > > > Street Guide > > https://www.chicagoancestors.org/sites/default/files/downloads/1870street.pdf > > ERIE (W.), formerly Third, fr. the river w. to N. Leavitt. W. D. > > > Next you'll need the Ward and Enumeration District. > > http://www.alookatcook.com/1870/1870wardmaptif.gif > > > She’s in Ward 20. > > > That’s as far as I got. If someone has access to the Enumeration > information for that year and that ward, you should be able to browse the > neighborhood using the enumerator’s ID number. > > ~~~~~~ > On Jul 30, 2018, at 9:24 AM, Jerry Lloyd <jlloyd@midco.net> wrote: > > Save Print Share > Christine Trellevi > in the U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995 > > View U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995 > View/Add alternate info > Report issue > Name: Christine Trellevi > Gender: Female > Residence Year: 1870 > Street address: 10o W brie > Residence Place: Chicago, Illinois, USA > Spouse: Andreas Trellevi > Publication Title: Chicago, Illinois, City Directory, 1870 ~~~~~~ > On Jul 30, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Doris Waggoner <waggonerdoris@gmail.com> wrote: > > Lars, > > I don't know the details, but I believe it was in the 1870s that Chicago > began changing the addresses of various parts of the city. This would > affect the census results, as people who didn't move, where found at > different addresses. At least you've got pretty good city directory data > for her between 1870 and 1880 even if they can't keep track of the exact > name. You do a good job of tracking her even when the name changes. > > There was a major fire in Chicago in 1871, which since the town was built > of wood, burned down multiple sections of town. The fire brought many > immigrants to town, because there was now a call for unskilled labor to > rebuild. This included women, who worked as domestics and clerks in > stores. According to a family tree made by one of my relatives, my > Norwegian g grandparents met and married in Chicago in 1873. That doesn't > explain your Christine Trellevig's presence, since she appeared in 1863. > But it may help explain why you can't find her in 1870, and why her > addresses kept changing. Chicago did a major change of street names as it > recovered and rebuilt through the 1870s. Do you have access to the Sanborn > Fire Insurance Maps? They may be available at the Newberry Library in > Chicago, which has just upgraded its holdings online. I don't live in > Chicago, but I know there are people on the Norway List who are also on the > Cook County list. It's up and running, because I've seen posts in the last > few weeks. Maybe somebody on that list can help find your Christine in > 1870, or at least who is living at the Erie Street address you provide, and > can find out for you who lived there that year. > > Beste, > Doris > ~~~~~~ > On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 4:16 AM, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: > >> Dear Listers! >> >> Christine Trellevig, born in Luster Co., Norway and christened Jan. 9, >> 1812, emigrated as a widow in 1863 to Chicago, IL where she died Nov. 5, >> 1888. >> >> The 1870 Chicago city directory shows (indexed on ancestry as Trellevi!): >> >> Trellevig Christine, wid. Andreas, r. 165 W. Erie >> >> I am unable to find her in the actual Chicago, IL census for 1870, and so >> I was hoping someone could help me find that specific address, 165 West >> Erie, to see who lived there that year? >> >> The 1872 Chicago city directory has her on the same address, but then as >> Christine Trellesing >> >> By 1875 she had moved to 217 North Curtis with the name Christine Trelevick >> >> In the 1880 census I find her as Christine Troloig(!) residing with a >> niece Thea Anderson on 42 Hunt, and that’s where she was also in the 1885 >> city directory under the name Christine Trellwig >> >> Christine had four children, and I hope to get on the track of those >> (other than Ben…): >> >> * Bastian Martin Jesperson, born Norway June 28, 1836 >> * Didrik Olai Jesperson, born Norway Sep. 13, 1838 >> * Berent Andreas Anderson Trellevig, born Norway May 23, 1845 - Civil War >> soldier - died as Ben Anderson in Chicago, IL Feb. 3, 1885 - married Hilda >> Fuglestad from Stavanger and had three children! >> * Monsina «Sena» Magdalena Anderson Trellevik, born Norway Feb. 1, 1849 >> >> Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> >>

Please let me know if you have one you wish to sell or know someone else who has one for sale. Thanks, nord 

Hi Lars, The 1870 Census only uses Dwelling Number. Manhattan's 2nd enumeration district was the only place you can search using a street address. The rest of the country had to wait for the 1880 census. Here's a good article about how to search the early census by address. https://www.nypl.org/blog/2016/07/08/genealogy-tips-searching-census-address Street Guide https://www.chicagoancestors.org/sites/default/files/downloads/1870street.pdf ERIE (W.), formerly Third, fr. the river w. to N. Leavitt. W. D. Next you'll need the Ward and Enumeration District. http://www.alookatcook.com/1870/1870wardmaptif.gif She’s in Ward 20. That’s as far as I got. If someone has access to the Enumeration information for that year and that ward, you should be able to browse the neighborhood using the enumerator’s ID number.

Save Print Share Christine Trellevi in the U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995 View U.S. City Directories, 1822-1995 View/Add alternate info Report issue Name: Christine Trellevi Gender: Female Residence Year: 1870 Street address: 10o W brie Residence Place: Chicago, Illinois, USA Spouse: Andreas Trellevi Publication Title: Chicago, Illinois, City Directory, 1870 -----Original Message----- From: Lars E. Oyane Sent: Monday, July 30, 2018 6:16 AM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: [NOR] How to find an address in the 1870 Chicago, IL census? Dear Listers! Christine Trellevig, born in Luster Co., Norway and christened Jan. 9, 1812, emigrated as a widow in 1863 to Chicago, IL where she died Nov. 5, 1888. The 1870 Chicago city directory shows (indexed on ancestry as Trellevi!): Trellevig Christine, wid. Andreas, r. 165 W. Erie I am unable to find her in the actual Chicago, IL census for 1870, and so I was hoping someone could help me find that specific address, 165 West Erie, to see who lived there that year? The 1872 Chicago city directory has her on the same address, but then as Christine Trellesing By 1875 she had moved to 217 North Curtis with the name Christine Trelevick In the 1880 census I find her as Christine Troloig(!) residing with a niece Thea Anderson on 42 Hunt, and that’s where she was also in the 1885 city directory under the name Christine Trellwig Christine had four children, and I hope to get on the track of those (other than Ben…): * Bastian Martin Jesperson, born Norway June 28, 1836 * Didrik Olai Jesperson, born Norway Sep. 13, 1838 * Berent Andreas Anderson Trellevig, born Norway May 23, 1845 - Civil War soldier - died as Ben Anderson in Chicago, IL Feb. 3, 1885 - married Hilda Fuglestad from Stavanger and had three children! * Monsina «Sena» Magdalena Anderson Trellevik, born Norway Feb. 1, 1849 Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Lars, I don't know the details, but I believe it was in the 1870s that Chicago began changing the addresses of various parts of the city. This would affect the census results, as people who didn't move, where found at different addresses. At least you've got pretty good city directory data for her between 1870 and 1880 even if they can't keep track of the exact name. You do a good job of tracking her even when the name changes. There was a major fire in Chicago in 1871, which since the town was built of wood, burned down multiple sections of town. The fire brought many immigrants to town, because there was now a call for unskilled labor to rebuild. This included women, who worked as domestics and clerks in stores. According to a family tree made by one of my relatives, my Norwegian g grandparents met and married in Chicago in 1873. That doesn't explain your Christine Trellevig's presence, since she appeared in 1863. But it may help explain why you can't find her in 1870, and why her addresses kept changing. Chicago did a major change of street names as it recovered and rebuilt through the 1870s. Do you have access to the Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps? They may be available at the Newberry Library in Chicago, which has just upgraded its holdings online. I don't live in Chicago, but I know there are people on the Norway List who are also on the Cook County list. It's up and running, because I've seen posts in the last few weeks. Maybe somebody on that list can help find your Christine in 1870, or at least who is living at the Erie Street address you provide, and can find out for you who lived there that year. Beste, Doris On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 4:16 AM, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: > Dear Listers! > > Christine Trellevig, born in Luster Co., Norway and christened Jan. 9, > 1812, emigrated as a widow in 1863 to Chicago, IL where she died Nov. 5, > 1888. > > The 1870 Chicago city directory shows (indexed on ancestry as Trellevi!): > > Trellevig Christine, wid. Andreas, r. 165 W. Erie > > I am unable to find her in the actual Chicago, IL census for 1870, and so > I was hoping someone could help me find that specific address, 165 West > Erie, to see who lived there that year? > > The 1872 Chicago city directory has her on the same address, but then as > Christine Trellesing > > By 1875 she had moved to 217 North Curtis with the name Christine Trelevick > > In the 1880 census I find her as Christine Troloig(!) residing with a > niece Thea Anderson on 42 Hunt, and that’s where she was also in the 1885 > city directory under the name Christine Trellwig > > Christine had four children, and I hope to get on the track of those > (other than Ben…): > > * Bastian Martin Jesperson, born Norway June 28, 1836 > * Didrik Olai Jesperson, born Norway Sep. 13, 1838 > * Berent Andreas Anderson Trellevig, born Norway May 23, 1845 - Civil War > soldier - died as Ben Anderson in Chicago, IL Feb. 3, 1885 - married Hilda > Fuglestad from Stavanger and had three children! > * Monsina «Sena» Magdalena Anderson Trellevik, born Norway Feb. 1, 1849 > > Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb. > com/listindexes/search/norway > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Dear Listers! Christine Trellevig, born in Luster Co., Norway and christened Jan. 9, 1812, emigrated as a widow in 1863 to Chicago, IL where she died Nov. 5, 1888. The 1870 Chicago city directory shows (indexed on ancestry as Trellevi!): Trellevig Christine, wid. Andreas, r. 165 W. Erie I am unable to find her in the actual Chicago, IL census for 1870, and so I was hoping someone could help me find that specific address, 165 West Erie, to see who lived there that year? The 1872 Chicago city directory has her on the same address, but then as Christine Trellesing By 1875 she had moved to 217 North Curtis with the name Christine Trelevick In the 1880 census I find her as Christine Troloig(!) residing with a niece Thea Anderson on 42 Hunt, and that’s where she was also in the 1885 city directory under the name Christine Trellwig Christine had four children, and I hope to get on the track of those (other than Ben…): * Bastian Martin Jesperson, born Norway June 28, 1836 * Didrik Olai Jesperson, born Norway Sep. 13, 1838 * Berent Andreas Anderson Trellevig, born Norway May 23, 1845 - Civil War soldier - died as Ben Anderson in Chicago, IL Feb. 3, 1885 - married Hilda Fuglestad from Stavanger and had three children! * Monsina «Sena» Magdalena Anderson Trellevik, born Norway Feb. 1, 1849 Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

I`ll try to contact them ,and see if they can come up with something "remarkable"!!. Who knows ,they might be able to find something?!. -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Linda Greethurst [mailto:llg451@gmail.com] Sendt: 28. juli 2018 23:24 Til: norway@rootsweb.com Emne: [NOR] Re: Johannes and Marit Sorum deaths I did search the Waukon papers yesterday and did not find obits for either Johannes or Marit. The Waukon newspapers during 1882 and 1892 did cover national and state news, but there was very little on the local level at this time. Small town, everyone knew everybody and what was going on in the whole area anyway - so it didn't need to be printed. But it didn't take small town newspapers long to discover their sales went up when people could see their name in print. By the early 1900's there were abundant "gossip" columns of who was visiting others, where the visitors were from, birthday/anniversary/family reunions, obit information, accidents, school news, church meetings, etc - all taking place at the local level. Then you begin to see special columns of "news" for many of the small towns or the unincorporated areas. This is whensmall town newspapers or weekly editions are a real gold mine for genealogists! I have not any any contact with the Allamakee Historical & Gen. Society. But it is in Waukon - and Elon is only about 6-8 miles away. I would recommend contacting them - they most likely have info that a person wouldn't even think to ask about!!! County historical society are more wonderful resources. Linda On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 3:58 PM Erik Hov <gj_erov7@bbnett.no> wrote: > Linda. > > I see!. So then it might be a clue to contact Allamakee Historical > Society unless someone know how to access newspapers from Waukon??. > > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: Linda Greethurst [mailto:llg451@gmail.com] > Sendt: 28. juli 2018 22:43 > Til: norway@rootsweb.com > Emne: [NOR] Re: Johannes and Marit Sorum deaths > > Erik, > New Albin probably would not be a viable resource for Johannes and > Marit's obit. There is no direct road from Elon to New Albin. Also > Elon is really too far away to be considered as a "local" news coverage area to New Albin. > According to the Data Visualization Journalism's Voyage West website, > Waukon would have been the closest town with a newspaper to Elon. > > On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 10:46 AM Erik Hov <gj_erov7@bbnett.no> wrote: > > > Thanks for advices as to obituaries!. Will think of this. > > > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > > Fra: Thomas Carlson [mailto:thom.carlson@stanfordalumni.org] > > Sendt: 28. juli 2018 10:56 > > Til: norway@rootsweb.com > > Emne: [NOR] Re: Johannes and Marit Sorum deaths > > > > Elon is an unincorporated community (a collocation of residences not > > established as a legal entity in the state) just east of the West > > Paint Creek church where the Sorums are buried: > > > > https://www.google.com/maps/place/Old+West+Paint+Creek+Lutheran/@43. > > 25 > > 85574 > > , > > > > -91.3561535,14z/data=!4m8!1m2!2m1!1swest+paint+creek+ia!3m4!1s0x87fb > > 83 > > d2931b > > 84b1:0x6cfce3e1c75f7a03!8m2!3d43.2607588!4d-91.3593044 > > > > The official Iowa death records begin in 1880 and may have indicated > > Elon as the place-of-death. > > > > There might have been obituaries in the newspapers in either Waukon > > or New Albin, neither of which are available online. > > > > You could ask for assistance from the Allamakee Historical Society > > but they probably would require a research fee: > > > > http://allamakeehistory.org/genealogy/index.html > > > > I haven't had much luck working with them. > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I did search the Waukon papers yesterday and did not find obits for either Johannes or Marit. The Waukon newspapers during 1882 and 1892 did cover national and state news, but there was very little on the local level at this time. Small town, everyone knew everybody and what was going on in the whole area anyway - so it didn't need to be printed. But it didn't take small town newspapers long to discover their sales went up when people could see their name in print. By the early 1900's there were abundant "gossip" columns of who was visiting others, where the visitors were from, birthday/anniversary/family reunions, obit information, accidents, school news, church meetings, etc - all taking place at the local level. Then you begin to see special columns of "news" for many of the small towns or the unincorporated areas. This is whensmall town newspapers or weekly editions are a real gold mine for genealogists! I have not any any contact with the Allamakee Historical & Gen. Society. But it is in Waukon - and Elon is only about 6-8 miles away. I would recommend contacting them - they most likely have info that a person wouldn't even think to ask about!!! County historical society are more wonderful resources. Linda On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 3:58 PM Erik Hov <gj_erov7@bbnett.no> wrote: > Linda. > > I see!. So then it might be a clue to contact Allamakee Historical Society > unless someone know how to access newspapers from Waukon??. > > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: Linda Greethurst [mailto:llg451@gmail.com] > Sendt: 28. juli 2018 22:43 > Til: norway@rootsweb.com > Emne: [NOR] Re: Johannes and Marit Sorum deaths > > Erik, > New Albin probably would not be a viable resource for Johannes and Marit's > obit. There is no direct road from Elon to New Albin. Also Elon is really > too far away to be considered as a "local" news coverage area to New Albin. > According to the Data Visualization Journalism's Voyage West website, > Waukon > would have been the closest town with a newspaper to Elon. > > On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 10:46 AM Erik Hov <gj_erov7@bbnett.no> wrote: > > > Thanks for advices as to obituaries!. Will think of this. > > > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > > Fra: Thomas Carlson [mailto:thom.carlson@stanfordalumni.org] > > Sendt: 28. juli 2018 10:56 > > Til: norway@rootsweb.com > > Emne: [NOR] Re: Johannes and Marit Sorum deaths > > > > Elon is an unincorporated community (a collocation of residences not > > established as a legal entity in the state) just east of the West > > Paint Creek church where the Sorums are buried: > > > > https://www.google.com/maps/place/Old+West+Paint+Creek+Lutheran/@43.25 > > 85574 > > , > > > > -91.3561535,14z/data=!4m8!1m2!2m1!1swest+paint+creek+ia!3m4!1s0x87fb83 > > d2931b > > 84b1:0x6cfce3e1c75f7a03!8m2!3d43.2607588!4d-91.3593044 > > > > The official Iowa death records begin in 1880 and may have indicated > > Elon as the place-of-death. > > > > There might have been obituaries in the newspapers in either Waukon or > > New Albin, neither of which are available online. > > > > You could ask for assistance from the Allamakee Historical Society but > > they probably would require a research fee: > > > > http://allamakeehistory.org/genealogy/index.html > > > > I haven't had much luck working with them. > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Linda. I see!. So then it might be a clue to contact Allamakee Historical Society unless someone know how to access newspapers from Waukon??. -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Linda Greethurst [mailto:llg451@gmail.com] Sendt: 28. juli 2018 22:43 Til: norway@rootsweb.com Emne: [NOR] Re: Johannes and Marit Sorum deaths Erik, New Albin probably would not be a viable resource for Johannes and Marit's obit. There is no direct road from Elon to New Albin. Also Elon is really too far away to be considered as a "local" news coverage area to New Albin. According to the Data Visualization Journalism's Voyage West website, Waukon would have been the closest town with a newspaper to Elon. On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 10:46 AM Erik Hov <gj_erov7@bbnett.no> wrote: > Thanks for advices as to obituaries!. Will think of this. > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: Thomas Carlson [mailto:thom.carlson@stanfordalumni.org] > Sendt: 28. juli 2018 10:56 > Til: norway@rootsweb.com > Emne: [NOR] Re: Johannes and Marit Sorum deaths > > Elon is an unincorporated community (a collocation of residences not > established as a legal entity in the state) just east of the West > Paint Creek church where the Sorums are buried: > > https://www.google.com/maps/place/Old+West+Paint+Creek+Lutheran/@43.25 > 85574 > , > > -91.3561535,14z/data=!4m8!1m2!2m1!1swest+paint+creek+ia!3m4!1s0x87fb83 > d2931b > 84b1:0x6cfce3e1c75f7a03!8m2!3d43.2607588!4d-91.3593044 > > The official Iowa death records begin in 1880 and may have indicated > Elon as the place-of-death. > > There might have been obituaries in the newspapers in either Waukon or > New Albin, neither of which are available online. > > You could ask for assistance from the Allamakee Historical Society but > they probably would require a research fee: > > http://allamakeehistory.org/genealogy/index.html > > I haven't had much luck working with them.

Erik, New Albin probably would not be a viable resource for Johannes and Marit's obit. There is no direct road from Elon to New Albin. Also Elon is really too far away to be considered as a "local" news coverage area to New Albin. According to the Data Visualization Journalism's Voyage West website, Waukon would have been the closest town with a newspaper to Elon. On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 10:46 AM Erik Hov <gj_erov7@bbnett.no> wrote: > Thanks for advices as to obituaries!. Will think of this. > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: Thomas Carlson [mailto:thom.carlson@stanfordalumni.org] > Sendt: 28. juli 2018 10:56 > Til: norway@rootsweb.com > Emne: [NOR] Re: Johannes and Marit Sorum deaths > > Elon is an unincorporated community (a collocation of residences not > established as a legal entity in the state) just east of the West Paint > Creek church where the Sorums are buried: > > https://www.google.com/maps/place/Old+West+Paint+Creek+Lutheran/@43.2585574 > , > > -91.3561535,14z/data=!4m8!1m2!2m1!1swest+paint+creek+ia!3m4!1s0x87fb83d2931b > 84b1:0x6cfce3e1c75f7a03!8m2!3d43.2607588!4d-91.3593044 > > The official Iowa death records begin in 1880 and may have indicated Elon > as > the place-of-death. > > There might have been obituaries in the newspapers in either Waukon or New > Albin, neither of which are available online. > > You could ask for assistance from the Allamakee Historical Society but they > probably would require a research fee: > > http://allamakeehistory.org/genealogy/index.html > > I haven't had much luck working with them. > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Curiously enough, at Find A Grave, there is a Gjertrud Quale buried in the Holden Luthean Cemetery, Kenyon, Goodhue County, MN . . . Birth: Dec. 23, 1859; Death: Feb. 12, 1886. . . a daughter maybe? Don in Maine USA ---------------------------------------- From: "Sarah Thorson Little via NORWAY" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 12:27 AM To: norway@rootsweb.com Cc: "Lars E. Oyane" <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no>, "Sarah Thorson Little" <norwayjenie@yahoo.com> Subject: [NOR] Re: Obituary assistance for a 100 year old lady in Kenyon, MN 1916, please? Lars, I located three different obituary scans for :Gertrude Quale" which I am emailing separately to your email address. They indicate she died in Kenyon. In addition, the Minnesota Death index says "Goodhue County" for the place of death - not Steele County. Death Date: 10 Feb 1916; Death County: Goodhue; State File Number: 004644; Certificate Number: 004644; Certificate Year: 1916; Sarah Thorson Little On Friday, July 27, 2018, 7:56:27 PM PDT, Annette Bowen <annette.bowen@gmail.com> wrote: https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov says the Kenyon newspapers are available on microfilm at the Minnesota Historical Society, St Paul, MN. I didn't find it online. Annette On 7/27/18, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: > Dear Listers! > > The great John Dalby database shows that: > > Gj?rtrud Qualle, born Aug. 27, 1815, died in Steele Co., MN Feb. 10, 1916, > and her obituary was supposedly published in the Kenyon newspaper on Feb. > 12, 1916. > > I asked John about a copy, but he says the information came from Jay > Steinberg who died in 2007, and he dies not have it... > > So now I hope that someone can please help me find this obituary? > > Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks for advices as to obituaries!. Will think of this. -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Thomas Carlson [mailto:thom.carlson@stanfordalumni.org] Sendt: 28. juli 2018 10:56 Til: norway@rootsweb.com Emne: [NOR] Re: Johannes and Marit Sorum deaths Elon is an unincorporated community (a collocation of residences not established as a legal entity in the state) just east of the West Paint Creek church where the Sorums are buried: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Old+West+Paint+Creek+Lutheran/@43.2585574, -91.3561535,14z/data=!4m8!1m2!2m1!1swest+paint+creek+ia!3m4!1s0x87fb83d2931b 84b1:0x6cfce3e1c75f7a03!8m2!3d43.2607588!4d-91.3593044 The official Iowa death records begin in 1880 and may have indicated Elon as the place-of-death. There might have been obituaries in the newspapers in either Waukon or New Albin, neither of which are available online. You could ask for assistance from the Allamakee Historical Society but they probably would require a research fee: http://allamakeehistory.org/genealogy/index.html I haven't had much luck working with them. _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Elon is an unincorporated community (a collocation of residences not established as a legal entity in the state) just east of the West Paint Creek church where the Sorums are buried: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Old+West+Paint+Creek+Lutheran/@43.2585574,-91.3561535,14z/data=!4m8!1m2!2m1!1swest+paint+creek+ia!3m4!1s0x87fb83d2931b84b1:0x6cfce3e1c75f7a03!8m2!3d43.2607588!4d-91.3593044 The official Iowa death records begin in 1880 and may have indicated Elon as the place-of-death. There might have been obituaries in the newspapers in either Waukon or New Albin, neither of which are available online. You could ask for assistance from the Allamakee Historical Society but they probably would require a research fee: http://allamakeehistory.org/genealogy/index.html I haven't had much luck working with them.

Hello Listers, Since some time I try to find out more information about my ancestor Anders Lauritzen Ve (before abt. 1550 Tveit, Vest-Agder). I know that he is the ancestor too of some other persons at Norway list. At geni.com there is a lot of information also with references to original texts. However people copy the falsch information time and again But......now I have found at the debate forum in 2015 <https://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/197717-hvem-var-gram-nilsen-hus%C3%A5s-i-s%C3%B8ndeled/?page=6> that the ancestral line of Anders Lauritsen Ve is still a mystery <Anders Lauritssons opphav er derfor ennå en gåte"..>. and that .....”Nei, det finnes det intet kildegrunnlag for - heller ikke påstanden om at Anders Lauritzen Ve og Christen Hjort skal ha vært halvbrødre”........ So Anders Lauritzen Ve was NOT the halfbrother of Christen Hjort! Just a warning! Reina

Lars, I located three different obituary scans for :Gertrude Quale" which I am emailing separately to your email address. They indicate she died in Kenyon. In addition, the Minnesota Death index says "Goodhue County" for the place of death - not Steele County. Death Date: 10 Feb 1916; Death County: Goodhue; State File Number: 004644; Certificate Number: 004644; Certificate Year: 1916; Sarah Thorson Little On Friday, July 27, 2018, 7:56:27 PM PDT, Annette Bowen <annette.bowen@gmail.com> wrote: https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov says the Kenyon newspapers are available on microfilm at the Minnesota Historical Society, St Paul, MN. I didn't find it online. Annette On 7/27/18, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: > Dear Listers! > > The great John Dalby database shows that: > > Gjḛrtrud Qualle, born Aug. 27, 1815, died in Steele Co., MN Feb. 10, 1916, > and her obituary was supposedly published in the Kenyon newspaper on Feb. > 12, 1916. > > I asked John about a copy, but he says the information came from Jay > Steinberg who died in 2007, and he dies not have it... > > So now I hope that someone can please help me find this obituary? > > Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov says the Kenyon newspapers are available on microfilm at the Minnesota Historical Society, St Paul, MN. I didn't find it online. Annette On 7/27/18, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: > Dear Listers! > > The great John Dalby database shows that: > > Gjḛrtrud Qualle, born Aug. 27, 1815, died in Steele Co., MN Feb. 10, 1916, > and her obituary was supposedly published in the Kenyon newspaper on Feb. > 12, 1916. > > I asked John about a copy, but he says the information came from Jay > Steinberg who died in 2007, and he dies not have it... > > So now I hope that someone can please help me find this obituary? > > Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives > https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/norway > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

I think it's just the original application. On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: > Dear Marian and other Listers! > > Thanks a million, Marian, for your quick reply to my latest question! > > This application process appears to be an easy one, but obviously there is > a question how they would deal with an inquiry coming from Europe, and > would they send the result by e-mail? > > As far as the two different kinds of applications are concerned, > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Photocopy of Original Application for a Social Security Card (SS-5) > $21.00, SSN of deceased individual is provided > $21.00, SSN of deceased individual is not provided > > Computer Extract of Social Security Card Application > $27.00, SSN of deceased individual is provided > $27.00, SSN of deceased individual is not provided > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > I presume the 1st (and cheaper) option would be what I need, since that > one would include all the information provided by the applicant, including > his place of residence at the time of application, but do you think any of > them would include his DEATH DATE? > > Thanks again for any suggestions! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Jul 27, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Marian Hill <marian.hill@gmail.com> wrote: > > Here's the website where you apply. > > https://secure.ssa.gov/apps9/eFOIA-FEWeb/internet/main.jsp > > Let me know if you have any issues using a Norwegian address. > > Marian > > > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> > wrote: > >> Dear Marian, Annette and other Listers! >> >> Thank you very much for your comments on my inquiry regarding the social >> security records! >> >> I have spent several days trying to figure how I can possibly obtain >> copies of these records, but everywhere I call I get the same automatic >> answer. They want your social security number and personal information >> about you etc. etc. >> >> Then finally today I got the following information in this regard from a >> «live» person: >> >> «in order to answer the question of how to get a copy of the SS >> application it must be requested from the FREEDOM OF INFORMATION and filed >> with the government. This is supposed to be able to be found on line? SS >> is not set up to help with genealogical questions.» >> >> I must admit this answer didn’t give me much help at all. Maybe someone >> else can understand what is meant? >> >> I would so much like to obtain these two records for Ole Erickson! >> >> Thanks again for any suggestions! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On Jul 16, 2018, at 8:19 PM, Annette Bowen <annette.bowen@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Lars, >> I ordered a copy of my grandmother's social security application and >> there was a question asking if she had ever applied before. She >> answered, "Yes, but incorrectly." Maybe he filled out a second >> application to correct the birth date since they don't agree exactly. >> The whole thing was new. Maybe he thought he had to fill out another >> form if he got a new job, or his employer gave him a form and he >> filled it out. >> >> Annette >> >> ~~~~~ >> >> On 7/14/18, Marian Hill <marian.hill@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Lars, >> >> It may have been someone else that switched his father's names on the >> Oregon application information. My husband's Danish great grandparents >> gave >> the correct information when applying for their Ford County, Illinois >> marriage license, but by the time their marriage was recorded in the >> Register, his great grandmother's father had become "M. Johnson" (the last >> name that she used) rather than Jens Melchiorsen. >> >> Marian >> >> ~~~~~ >> >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> >> wrote: >> >> Dear Listers! >> >> This is a big challenge that I so much would like to solve in view of my >> upcoming volume of the Luster County History Book series, and I do hope >> that someone can help me? >> >> Ole Erikson Urness, born in Hafslo, Luster Co., Norway May 13, 1897, son >> of Erik Hansson (Urness) and Margretha T. Olson (Legreid) emigrated in >> 1914 >> to an uncle John T. Olson in Louisburg, Lac qui parle Co., MN and enlisted >> in the US Army in 1917. >> >> In the «U.S., Adjutant General Military Records, 1631-1976» he shows up as >> a private in 2nd infantry Company M, commissioned at Madison, MN July 4. >> 1917. >> >> Next he shows up on US Army Transport Services under the name Ole Erickson >> on board the «Hororata» in 1918, place of residence Louisburg, MN and >> next-of-kin uncle John T. Olsen - his service No. is #1429454. >> >> And then the next listing I find for him, at least I am pretty sure this >> has be be him, is in the 1920 census of Jefferson Barracks Government >> Reservation, St. Louis Co., MO: Ole C. Erickson, laborer, private US Army, >> 23, born in Norway, emigrated in 1914 and naturalized in 1917 >> >> Nothing more is seen of Ole after 1920 until these two entries show up in >> the ancestry database of «All U.S., Social Security Applications and >> Claims >> Index, 1936-2007»: >> >> Name: Ole Erickson >> Gender: Male >> Race: White >> Birth Date: 16 May 1897 >> Birth Place: Louisburg, Minnesota >> Father: John Erickson <https://search.ancestry.com/ >> cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=Numident&indiv=try&h=611674758> >> Mother: Margaret Olson <https://search.ancestry.com/ >> cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=Numident&indiv=try&h=761674758> >> SSN: 567050722 (issued CA) >> Notes: Jun 1937: Name listed as OLE ERICKSON >> >> Name: Ole C Erickson >> Gender: Male >> Race: White >> Birth Date: 5 May 1897 >> Birth Place: Louisburg, Minnesota >> Father: Hans Erickson <https://search.ancestry.com/ >> cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=Numident&indiv=try&h=610517255> >> Mother: Margret T Olsen <https://search.ancestry.com/ >> cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=Numident&indiv=try&h=760517255> >> SSN: 542122719 (issued OR) >> Notes: Dec 1938: Name listed as OLE C ERICKSON >> >> In the first of these he gives his father’s name as John Erickson, which >> was in fact the name of his only brother who lived in America, while in >> the >> second one he switches his father’s first and second names! Mother’s name >> is correct in both. And of course he gave in both cases Louisburg, MN as >> his place of birth!! >> >> What a guy!? >> >> I must add that his relatives (siblings) in Norway NEVER heard from or >> about him again after he enlisted in the Army in 1917, so it would be just >> wonderful if he could be located, or at least if some additional >> information could be found for him! >> >> It is interesting to see he apparently applied for Social Security twice, >> once in CA and once in OR. Maybe that could be a «clue» to track him >> down?? >> >> Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> >> > >

Dear Marian and other Listers! Thanks a million, Marian, for your quick reply to my latest question! This application process appears to be an easy one, but obviously there is a question how they would deal with an inquiry coming from Europe, and would they send the result by e-mail? As far as the two different kinds of applications are concerned, ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Photocopy of Original Application for a Social Security Card (SS-5) $21.00, SSN of deceased individual is provided $21.00, SSN of deceased individual is not provided Computer Extract of Social Security Card Application $27.00, SSN of deceased individual is provided $27.00, SSN of deceased individual is not provided ~~~~~~~~~~~~ I presume the 1st (and cheaper) option would be what I need, since that one would include all the information provided by the applicant, including his place of residence at the time of application, but do you think any of them would include his DEATH DATE? Thanks again for any suggestions! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > On Jul 27, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Marian Hill <marian.hill@gmail.com> wrote: > > Here's the website where you apply. > > https://secure.ssa.gov/apps9/eFOIA-FEWeb/internet/main.jsp <https://secure.ssa.gov/apps9/eFOIA-FEWeb/internet/main.jsp> > > Let me know if you have any issues using a Norwegian address. > > Marian > > > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no <mailto:lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no>> wrote: > Dear Marian, Annette and other Listers! > > Thank you very much for your comments on my inquiry regarding the social security records! > > I have spent several days trying to figure how I can possibly obtain copies of these records, but everywhere I call I get the same automatic answer. They want your social security number and personal information about you etc. etc. > > Then finally today I got the following information in this regard from a «live» person: > > «in order to answer the question of how to get a copy of the SS application it must be requested from the FREEDOM OF INFORMATION and filed with the government. This is supposed to be able to be found on line? SS is not set up to help with genealogical questions.» > > I must admit this answer didn’t give me much help at all. Maybe someone else can understand what is meant? > > I would so much like to obtain these two records for Ole Erickson! > > Thanks again for any suggestions! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> On Jul 16, 2018, at 8:19 PM, Annette Bowen <annette.bowen@gmail.com <mailto:annette.bowen@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Lars, >> I ordered a copy of my grandmother's social security application and >> there was a question asking if she had ever applied before. She >> answered, "Yes, but incorrectly." Maybe he filled out a second >> application to correct the birth date since they don't agree exactly. >> The whole thing was new. Maybe he thought he had to fill out another >> form if he got a new job, or his employer gave him a form and he >> filled it out. >> >> Annette >> >> ~~~~~ >> >> On 7/14/18, Marian Hill <marian.hill@gmail.com <mailto:marian.hill@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> Lars, >>> >>> It may have been someone else that switched his father's names on the >>> Oregon application information. My husband's Danish great grandparents gave >>> the correct information when applying for their Ford County, Illinois >>> marriage license, but by the time their marriage was recorded in the >>> Register, his great grandmother's father had become "M. Johnson" (the last >>> name that she used) rather than Jens Melchiorsen. >>> >>> Marian >>> > ~~~~~ > >>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no <mailto:lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Listers! >>>> >>>> This is a big challenge that I so much would like to solve in view of my >>>> upcoming volume of the Luster County History Book series, and I do hope >>>> that someone can help me? >>>> >>>> Ole Erikson Urness, born in Hafslo, Luster Co., Norway May 13, 1897, son >>>> of Erik Hansson (Urness) and Margretha T. Olson (Legreid) emigrated in >>>> 1914 >>>> to an uncle John T. Olson in Louisburg, Lac qui parle Co., MN and enlisted >>>> in the US Army in 1917. >>>> >>>> In the «U.S., Adjutant General Military Records, 1631-1976» he shows up as >>>> a private in 2nd infantry Company M, commissioned at Madison, MN July 4. >>>> 1917. >>>> >>>> Next he shows up on US Army Transport Services under the name Ole Erickson >>>> on board the «Hororata» in 1918, place of residence Louisburg, MN and >>>> next-of-kin uncle John T. Olsen - his service No. is #1429454. >>>> >>>> And then the next listing I find for him, at least I am pretty sure this >>>> has be be him, is in the 1920 census of Jefferson Barracks Government >>>> Reservation, St. Louis Co., MO: Ole C. Erickson, laborer, private US Army, >>>> 23, born in Norway, emigrated in 1914 and naturalized in 1917 >>>> >>>> Nothing more is seen of Ole after 1920 until these two entries show up in >>>> the ancestry database of «All U.S., Social Security Applications and >>>> Claims >>>> Index, 1936-2007»: >>>> >>>> Name: Ole Erickson >>>> Gender: Male >>>> Race: White >>>> Birth Date: 16 May 1897 >>>> Birth Place: Louisburg, Minnesota >>>> Father: John Erickson <https://search.ancestry.com/ <https://search.ancestry.com/> >>>> cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=Numident&indiv=try&h=611674758> >>>> Mother: Margaret Olson <https://search.ancestry.com/ <https://search.ancestry.com/> >>>> cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=Numident&indiv=try&h=761674758> >>>> SSN: 567050722 (issued CA) >>>> Notes: Jun 1937: Name listed as OLE ERICKSON >>>> >>>> Name: Ole C Erickson >>>> Gender: Male >>>> Race: White >>>> Birth Date: 5 May 1897 >>>> Birth Place: Louisburg, Minnesota >>>> Father: Hans Erickson <https://search.ancestry.com/ <https://search.ancestry.com/> >>>> cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=Numident&indiv=try&h=610517255> >>>> Mother: Margret T Olsen <https://search.ancestry.com/ <https://search.ancestry.com/> >>>> cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&r=an&db=Numident&indiv=try&h=760517255> >>>> SSN: 542122719 (issued OR) >>>> Notes: Dec 1938: Name listed as OLE C ERICKSON >>>> >>>> In the first of these he gives his father’s name as John Erickson, which >>>> was in fact the name of his only brother who lived in America, while in >>>> the >>>> second one he switches his father’s first and second names! Mother’s name >>>> is correct in both. And of course he gave in both cases Louisburg, MN as >>>> his place of birth!! >>>> >>>> What a guy!? >>>> >>>> I must add that his relatives (siblings) in Norway NEVER heard from or >>>> about him again after he enlisted in the Army in 1917, so it would be just >>>> wonderful if he could be located, or at least if some additional >>>> information could be found for him! >>>> >>>> It is interesting to see he apparently applied for Social Security twice, >>>> once in CA and once in OR. Maybe that could be a «clue» to track him >>>> down?? >>>> >>>> Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>> > >