I'm kind of shooting in the dark here - as Reina mentioned this query is light on clues, but... I schmoozed in Australian Records and got looking at Peder Kristian Sletten He arrived in Sydney AU 12 May 1925 aboard the SS Havo Naturalized 27 Mar 1942 - Place of Birth Ness, Norway - born 1904 Residence Dubbo, NSW and Wife Rita Irene Anne Sletten So I looked at the 1910 census... Searched for Pe* Sletten and found this family in Tune http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036354006236 It must be them - see the "Tellingskrets" is Greåker Olav N. Sletten - 23.03.1878 in V. Aker Oline Kristensen - 27.06.1875 in Gran Hadeland Peder O. Sletten - 22.04.1904 in Flaa Hallingdal Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com -----Original Message----- From: annelee50 via Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 7:36 PM To: NORWAY@rootsweb.com Subject: [NOR] Sletten Searching information on my maternal great grandparents: Olaf Sletten & Oline (Smested?) from either Greaker or Oslo. They had three daughters and one son (my grandfather) who migrated to Australia. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Annelee, I have some questions: -Are you looking for information timebackwards in Norway? -Which information do you have already what can be of help -In which timeframe are you looking for information? -Do you have more information f.e. birthyear, emigrationyear. -Census information from Australia? Just "two names" is difficult to search for in such a big country as Norway. Kind regards Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: annelee50 via Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 2:36 AM To: NORWAY@rootsweb.com Subject: [NOR] Sletten Searching information on my maternal great grandparents: Olaf Sletten & Oline (Smested?) from either Greaker or Oslo. They had three daughters and one son (my grandfather) who migrated to Australia. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I love the jokes, makes my day. I forward to my many siblings and they love the corny ones. -----Original Message----- From: norway-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norway-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Lien via Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 10:51 PM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Today's Joke I have no position either way in this Joke / Compliment discussion but the Norway List Guidelines are written and pretty clear and published here... http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm So #5 says: 5. THANK YOU'S: Thanking others for their assistance is very important. BUT it should be done OFF LIST for things that were done for you by one person. Multiple helpers, and out of the ordinary assistance deserve to be Thanked onlist. Also, "one liners" like "Good site," "Sounds Interesting," and "Me too" are best only to be sent off list to the person your commenting too. And then #4 says: 4. CORRECTING OTHERS: Respect other's rights of expression at all times. Do not correct or negatively comment on other's spelling, actions, content of message, or opinions you disagree with. Instead, use the delete button or write to the list owner with your complaints at Karlena@adelphia.net. Historical facts should be corrected, in a polite way. Send the correction to the submitter first, for their comments and awareness. So ya know, it's usually best to do what Thumper's Mother said I think. :-)) And REMEMBER #4 if you disagree with me... And REMEMBER #5 if you agree... Hee Hee :-) Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I do not understand why one should not be allowed to send a "thank you message" or some similar comment for appreciating a former message. Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Steve via Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 9:52 PM To: John Ferman ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Today's Joke John, I second Barbra's comment, and HANS, why on earth would you object to someone telling John good joke and letting him know we appreciate the job he's doing. Maybe we should ask others about your comment and see if they concur or agree that we should be free to show John we appreciate the job he does publicly........................ Steve Natvig -----Original Message----- From: John Ferman via Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 1:50 PM To: Rootsweb Norway Subject: [NOR] Today's Joke A missionary was addressing an audience at the Bethany Lutheran church in Sebeka, Minnesota and was asked about availability and quality the food in Africa. He replied that the parishioners should be more concerned about the food in Minnesota: “The material we put into our stomachs is enough to have killed most of us sitting here, years ago. GMOs spell the death of humanity. Red meat is awful. Soft drinks corrode your stomach lining. Chinese food is loaded with MSG. High fat diets can be disastrous, and none of us realizes the long- term harm caused by the germs in our drinking water. But there is one thing that is the most dangerous of all and we all have, or will, eat it. Can anyone here tell me what food it is that causes the most grief and suffering for years after eating it?” After several seconds of quiet, a 75-year-old man in the front row, Ole Olsen, raised his hand, and softly said, “Wedding Cake?” Sent from my iPad John Ferman Kingfield Neighborhood Minneapolis, MN Email in header ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have no position either way in this Joke / Compliment discussion but the Norway List Guidelines are written and pretty clear and published here... http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm So #5 says: 5. THANK YOU'S: Thanking others for their assistance is very important. BUT it should be done OFF LIST for things that were done for you by one person. Multiple helpers, and out of the ordinary assistance deserve to be Thanked onlist. Also, "one liners" like "Good site," "Sounds Interesting," and "Me too" are best only to be sent off list to the person your commenting too. And then #4 says: 4. CORRECTING OTHERS: Respect other's rights of expression at all times. Do not correct or negatively comment on other's spelling, actions, content of message, or opinions you disagree with. Instead, use the delete button or write to the list owner with your complaints at Karlena@adelphia.net. Historical facts should be corrected, in a polite way. Send the correction to the submitter first, for their comments and awareness. So ya know, it's usually best to do what Thumper's Mother said I think. :-)) And REMEMBER #4 if you disagree with me... And REMEMBER #5 if you agree... Hee Hee :-) Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com

Please do not send mails like this. Those jokes are normally very good but pleas do not comment. If you have to do that, send it to John. Hans Den 08.03.2015 20:07, skrev Barbara Young via: > LOL > > A real good one, John! > > All the best > Barbara in MA > > On 3/8/2015 2:50 PM, John Ferman via wrote: >> A missionary was addressing an audience at the Bethany Lutheran church in Sebeka, Minnesota and was asked about availability and quality the food in Africa. >> >> He replied that the parishioners should be more concerned about the food in Minnesota: “The material we put into our stomachs is enough to have killed most of us sitting here, years ago. GMOs spell the death of humanity. Red meat is awful. Soft drinks corrode your stomach lining. Chinese food is loaded with MSG. High fat diets can be disastrous, and none of us realizes the long- term harm caused by the germs in our drinking water. But there is one thing that is the most dangerous of all and we all have, or will, eat it. Can anyone here tell me what food it is that causes the most grief and suffering for years after eating it?” >> >> After several seconds of quiet, a 75-year-old man in the front row, Ole Olsen, raised his hand, and softly said, “Wedding Cake?” >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> John Ferman >> Kingfield Neighborhood >> Minneapolis, MN >> Email in header >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, I love the jokes and I usually share them with several people. If we can't laugh at ourselves it is unfair to laugh at others! Carol in Kentucky -----Original Message----- From: Vicki via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: Lenise Cook <lenise@deepbondi.net>; norway <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Mar 8, 2015 5:45 pm Subject: Re: [NOR] Today's Joke Love the jokes. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 8, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Lenise Cook via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I agree with Barbara and Steve - This list is like family and I enjoy the interactions. The delete button is easy to hit and it is easy enough to recognize a reply you might not want to read by the "RE: [NOR] Today's Joke" subject heading, so delete it without reading it if you don't like family conversation. I have been on strictly moderated lists where nothing "off topic" is allowed and lists where the members share recipes and family stories along with genealogy and I can certainly tell you which ones are the most fun. > >> On Mar 8, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Steve via wrote: >> >> John, I second Barbra's comment, >> >> and HANS, why on earth would you object to someone telling John good joke >> and letting him know we appreciate the job he's doing. Maybe we should ask >> others about your comment and see if they concur or agree that we should be >> free to show John we appreciate the job he does >> publicly........................ >> >> Steve Natvig > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lars,Hans,Steve, Reina, Lenise and ithers, Thank you. All the best. Barbara

Arild has provided me some wonderful assistance off-list (in addition to the assistance on list) to help me try to resolve some family tree mysteries. One document he uncovered opens up a whole new area of Norwegian research that I have not previously explored, namely real estate records. The record linked below is from Trysil in Hedmark for an ancestor of mine. In fact, there are entries for two separate individuals that interest me, but I feel that I am stretching the limits of the kindness shown on this list to ask for a complete transcription, although a complete transcription is what I would really like to have so that I can better understand the details as well as the nuance. Permanent Pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:tl_read?idx_id=14223&uid=ny&idx_side=-290 The records of interest to me: 1) At the bottom of page 522, starting with the word Fæsleseddel [?], which refers to a Gregers Olsen [?] Østenheden. 2) On page 523, there are a series of records that begin with the one that states "Obligation af 19 Juli 1844" and references Ole E. [Ericksen] Qvernholtet (or possibly Qværnholtet or something very similar) continuing through all of the next five entries that begin with the word "Execution". I am interested also in the text in the column labeled Unmærsninger [?]. And does anyone know whether the folio reference in the second column represents additional documentation that is available? I post this request with strong concern that I am asking too much. This is a lot to transcribe (and I am asking for a transcription at this point, not an English translation - I will do my best to translate it myself, though I may post some follow-up questions related to translating some of the words and phrases). If this is beyond the bounds of an appropriate request, would anyone know of a service that I can hire for the purpose of transcribing lengthier records? Thank you! The assistance of this list is always much appreciated. -- James Aylard

Dear Lars, I want to thank you very much for your very kind words. I deeply appreciate it. Sincerely, Barbara On 3/8/2015 5:41 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Listers! > > I see no reason why one shouldn't comment on the various postings on the list! The comments may not always bring us forward in our research, but every so often the comments can be quite interesting and suggestive! And Barbara is one of those who is good at commenting on various theories and messages, not to forget the jokes which she finds good! Please continue commenting, Barbara, and please continue bringing us good jokes, John! If someone dislikes what figures on the list, the delete button is not far away! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mar 8, 2015, at 4:03 PM, Lenise Cook via wrote: > >> I agree with Barbara and Steve - This list is like family and I enjoy the interactions. The delete button is easy to hit and it is easy enough to recognize a reply you might not want to read by the "RE: [NOR] Today's Joke" subject heading, so delete it without reading it if you don't like family conversation. I have been on strictly moderated lists where nothing "off topic" is allowed and lists where the members share recipes and family stories along with genealogy and I can certainly tell you which ones are the most fun. >> >> On Mar 8, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Steve via wrote: >> >>> John, I second Barbra's comment, >>> >>> and HANS, why on earth would you object to someone telling John good joke >>> and letting him know we appreciate the job he's doing. Maybe we should ask >>> others about your comment and see if they concur or agree that we should be >>> free to show John we appreciate the job he does >>> publicly........................ >>> >>> Steve Natvig >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Barbara, Jerrald and other Listers! Thank you very much for your latest comments on my Mathilda Anderson problem! I guess I expressed myself rather "clumsy" when I suggested that John and Mathilda lived in a "common-law" union. It would be more correct to say that they "lived together", pretending being husband and wife! OR, are we talking about two different Mathilda's? To follow Emery Webber's later destiny falls "kind-of" outside my project, but I note with interest that Emery must have remarried very shortly after he divorced Mathilda! Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! Hopefully more can be found on John William Anderson and his marriage to Mathilda... I keep twisting my fingers... Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 8, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Jerrald Lloyd via wrote: > > Emery E Webber in the 1920 United States Federal Census > > Name: > Emery E Webber > [Emery E Weller] > > Age: > 43 > > Birth Year: > abt 1877 > > Birthplace: > Minnesota > > Home in 1920: > Portland, Multnomah, Oregon > > Street: > 66th Street SE > > House Number: > 5512 > > Race: > White > > Gender: > Male > > Relation to Head of House: > Head > > Marital Status: > Married > > Spouse's Name: > Ethel Webber > > Father's Birthplace: > Holland > > Mother's Birthplace: > United States > [United States of America] > > Able to Speak English: > Yes > > Occupation: > Chimney Insp > > Industry: > Working Out > > Employment Field: > Wage or Salary > > Neighbors: > View others on page > > Household Members: > > Emery E Webber 43 > Ethel Webber 33 > Lillian E Batchelor 15 > Ida M Batchelor 12 > Henry M Batchelor 8 > Mary W Batchelor 6 > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 1:38 PM > To: <norway@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [NOR] 2nd attempt: Mathilda Ellsworth Anderson > (1874-1927) -biography 1913-1920 Portland, OR-Seattle, WA - newspaper > assistance? > >> Dear Listers, >> >> I have started asking myself what really happened in Portland, OR in those >> years preceding 1920? >> >> The 1917 Portland city directory shows, among others, these entries: >> >> * J. Wm. Anderson (Matilda), printer, res. 1917 on 308 Jackson >> >> * Emery Webber (Matilda), chimney sweep., res. 690 1/2 E Morrison >> >> Can there be a "time lag" in the city directory? Is it possible that >> Matilda was still "formally" married to Emery Webber until 1919, while in >> "reality" she was already in 1917 a "common-law" wife of John William >> Anderson's? >> >> In the WW1 draft records from 1918 Emery Webber is clearly alone, since >> his "nearest relative" was his mother, while John William Anderson's >> "nearest relative" was his wife Matilda? >> >> And yet I am convinced I have the "right" John William Anderson! They >> moved about 1919 to Seattle, King Co., WA where I find them in the city >> directories as follows: >> >> * 1920: John W. Anderson (Matilda), salesman, res. B3716 Angeline >> >> * 1922: John W. Anderson (Matilda), salesman Tent & Awning Co., res. 3716 >> Angeline >> >> * 1924: J Wm Anderson (Matilda), res. 4017 23rd Ave SW >> >> * 1925: John W. Anderson (Mathilda), laborer, res. 4017 23rd Ave SW >> >> * 1926: Wm Anderson (Matilda), foreman ST&A Co, res. 4015(!) 23rd Ave SW >> >> * 1927: John W Anderson (Mathilda), salesman, res. 4017 23rd Ave SW >> >> Then John married Lucette, and they are together for one year: >> >> * 1928: John W Anderson (Lucette), salesman ST&A Co, res. 713 28th Ave >> >> Lucette remained on the same address, while John moved out. Perhaps these >> entries are for him: >> >> * 1929: J W Anderson, res. 2320 41st Ave SW >> >> * 1930: J W Anderson, laborer, res. Hazel, WA >> >> I have always wondered what became of John William Anderson! Any >> suggestions? >> >> Thanks again for your wonderful assistance identifying John William >> Anderson and his wife/wives! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On Mar 7, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >> >>> Dear Mark and other Listers! >>> >>> Mark, I have found something very interesting in the WW1 draft record >>> system which makes me wonder whether that divorce "debate" from Portland, >>> OR could be a year or more off? >>> >>> Emery Elsworth Webber's WW1 draft record from 1918 shows him as being >>> unmarried and a ship yard worker, and his closest relative was his mother >>> Ella Webber! Why would he be accused by Mathilda for NOT beig a ship >>> yard worker, when he already was one? >>> >>> Then I found this in the WW1 draft records: >>> >>> John William ANDERSON, born Aug. 4, 1877, a truck driver residing on 492 >>> 1/2 E. Burnside in Portland, OR with nearest relative MATILDA ANDERSON, >>> same address. The card is signed Sep. 12, 1918 and has an extra notation >>> with a new address: 2957 Charles street, Seattle, WA! >>> >>> John's age is a perfect "match" with Mathilda's 4th husband, and they did >>> move to Seattle, WA, so I believe this is the one we want! >>> >>> But then, Emery and Mathilda's divorce must have occurred BEFORE Sep of >>> 1918. >>> >>> Next question: Can John and Mathilda's marriage be found in Oregon? >>> >>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>> >>> Very sincerely yours, >>> >>> Lars E. Oyane >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Mark, Barbara, Greg and other listers! >>>> >>>> "What a wonderful world - and list..." Thanks a million, Mark, for >>>> having discovered the "secret" behind Mathilda's 3rd marriage! It is >>>> just amazing what these newspaper columns may include of information, as >>>> long as it's possible to search for names in them! Thanks also to >>>> Barbara and Greg for further comments! If it wasn't for Ellsworth being >>>> of German background, I would have thought they were Ole and Lena >>>> arguing in that divorce procedure from Portland...!! >>>> >>>> Looking around a little bit, I see that Emery Elsworth Webber on his WW1 >>>> draft says he was born Oct. 4, 1875, and he was then indeed working in >>>> the ship yards!!! The 1880 census for Rice Co., MN gives his father's >>>> name as Conrad Weber, and the family obviously got around! In 1900 they >>>> were in Grand Forks, ND, but the children born between 1887 and 1896 >>>> were born in Washington! Then by 1910 Conrad had died, and his wife had >>>> moved to Portland OR! >>>> >>>> Now that the "Ellsworth" part of this problem has been solved, I hope it >>>> may also be possible to find Mathilda's 4th marriage to John W. >>>> Anderson? They must have been married in the fall of 1919, between >>>> Portland, OR and Seattle, WA? >>>> >>>> Thanks again, Mark for once more making my day! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> On Mar 7, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Mark Erickson via wrote: >>>> >>>>> The Oregon Daily Journal (Portland, Oregon) · Sun, Apr 6, 1919 · Page >>>>> 10 >>>>> DIVORCE COURT A BUSY PLACE >>>>> E. Ellsworth Webber, a chimney sweep, alleges in a complaint for >>>>> divorce >>>>> that his wife, Matilda, nagged him continually to change his vocation >>>>> and seek more lucrative employment in the shipyards

Dear Listers! I see no reason why one shouldn't comment on the various postings on the list! The comments may not always bring us forward in our research, but every so often the comments can be quite interesting and suggestive! And Barbara is one of those who is good at commenting on various theories and messages, not to forget the jokes which she finds good! Please continue commenting, Barbara, and please continue bringing us good jokes, John! If someone dislikes what figures on the list, the delete button is not far away! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 8, 2015, at 4:03 PM, Lenise Cook via wrote: > I agree with Barbara and Steve - This list is like family and I enjoy the interactions. The delete button is easy to hit and it is easy enough to recognize a reply you might not want to read by the "RE: [NOR] Today's Joke" subject heading, so delete it without reading it if you don't like family conversation. I have been on strictly moderated lists where nothing "off topic" is allowed and lists where the members share recipes and family stories along with genealogy and I can certainly tell you which ones are the most fun. > > On Mar 8, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Steve via wrote: > >> John, I second Barbra's comment, >> >> and HANS, why on earth would you object to someone telling John good joke >> and letting him know we appreciate the job he's doing. Maybe we should ask >> others about your comment and see if they concur or agree that we should be >> free to show John we appreciate the job he does >> publicly........................ >> >> Steve Natvig > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, I second Barbra's comment, and HANS, why on earth would you object to someone telling John good joke and letting him know we appreciate the job he's doing. Maybe we should ask others about your comment and see if they concur or agree that we should be free to show John we appreciate the job he does publicly........................ Steve Natvig -----Original Message----- From: John Ferman via Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 1:50 PM To: Rootsweb Norway Subject: [NOR] Today's Joke A missionary was addressing an audience at the Bethany Lutheran church in Sebeka, Minnesota and was asked about availability and quality the food in Africa. He replied that the parishioners should be more concerned about the food in Minnesota: “The material we put into our stomachs is enough to have killed most of us sitting here, years ago. GMOs spell the death of humanity. Red meat is awful. Soft drinks corrode your stomach lining. Chinese food is loaded with MSG. High fat diets can be disastrous, and none of us realizes the long- term harm caused by the germs in our drinking water. But there is one thing that is the most dangerous of all and we all have, or will, eat it. Can anyone here tell me what food it is that causes the most grief and suffering for years after eating it?” After several seconds of quiet, a 75-year-old man in the front row, Ole Olsen, raised his hand, and softly said, “Wedding Cake?” Sent from my iPad John Ferman Kingfield Neighborhood Minneapolis, MN Email in header ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

LOL A real good one, John! All the best Barbara in MA On 3/8/2015 2:50 PM, John Ferman via wrote: > A missionary was addressing an audience at the Bethany Lutheran church in Sebeka, Minnesota and was asked about availability and quality the food in Africa. > > He replied that the parishioners should be more concerned about the food in Minnesota: “The material we put into our stomachs is enough to have killed most of us sitting here, years ago. GMOs spell the death of humanity. Red meat is awful. Soft drinks corrode your stomach lining. Chinese food is loaded with MSG. High fat diets can be disastrous, and none of us realizes the long- term harm caused by the germs in our drinking water. But there is one thing that is the most dangerous of all and we all have, or will, eat it. Can anyone here tell me what food it is that causes the most grief and suffering for years after eating it?” > > After several seconds of quiet, a 75-year-old man in the front row, Ole Olsen, raised his hand, and softly said, “Wedding Cake?” > > > Sent from my iPad > John Ferman > Kingfield Neighborhood > Minneapolis, MN > Email in header > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Lars, Each State might have differing laws regarding "Common Law" marriages. Seven years sticks in my mind as one of them. I am not a lawyer but perhaps Wm amd Matilda weren't together long enough to come under "Common Law". All the best SIncerely, Barbara in MA On 3/8/2015 2:38 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Listers, > > I have started asking myself what really happened in Portland, OR in those years preceding 1920? > > The 1917 Portland city directory shows, among others, these entries: > > * J. Wm. Anderson (Matilda), printer, res. 1917 on 308 Jackson > > * Emery Webber (Matilda), chimney sweep., res. 690 1/2 E Morrison > > Can there be a "time lag" in the city directory? Is it possible that Matilda was still "formally" married to Elmer Webber until 1919, while in "reality" she was already in 1917 a "common-law" wife of John William Anderson's? > > In the WW1 draft records from 1918 Elmer Webber is clearly alone, since his "nearest relative" was his mother, while John William Anderson's "nearest relative" was his wife Matilda? > > And yet I am convinced I have the "right" John William Anderson! They moved about 1919 to Seattle, King Co., WA where I find them in the city directories as follows: > > * 1920: John W. Anderson (Matilda), salesman, res. B3716 Angeline > > * 1922: John W. Anderson (Matilda), salesman Tent & Awning Co., res. 3716 Angeline > > * 1924: J Wm Anderson (Matilda), res. 4017 23rd Ave SW > > * 1925: John W. Anderson (Mathilda), laborer, res. 4017 23rd Ave SW > > * 1926: Wm Anderson (Matilda), foreman ST&A Co, res. 4015(!) 23rd Ave SW > > * 1927: John W Anderson (Mathilda), salesman, res. 4017 23rd Ave SW > > Then John married Lucette, and they are together for one year: > > * 1928: John W Anderson (Lucette), salesman ST&A Co, res. 713 28th Ave > > Lucette remained on the same address, while John moved out. Perhaps these entries are for him: > > * 1929: J W Anderson, res. 2320 41st Ave SW > > * 1930: J W Anderson, laborer, res. Hazel, WA > > I have always wondered what became of John William Anderson! Any suggestions? > > Thanks again for your wonderful assistance identifying John William Anderson and his wife/wives! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mar 7, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > >> Dear Mark and other Listers! >> >> Mark, I have found something very interesting in the WW1 draft record system which makes me wonder whether that divorce "debate" from Portland, OR could be a year or more off? >> >> Emery Elsworth Webber's WW1 draft record from 1918 shows him as being unmarried and a ship yard worker, and his closest relative was his mother Ella Webber! Why would he be accused by Mathilda for NOT beig a ship yard worker, when he already was one? >> >> Then I found this in the WW1 draft records: >> >> John William ANDERSON, born Aug. 4, 1877, a truck driver residing on 492 1/2 E. Burnside in Portland, OR with nearest relative MATILDA ANDERSON, same address. The card is signed Sep. 12, 1918 and has an extra notation with a new address: 2957 Charles street, Seattle, WA! >> >> John's age is a perfect "match" with Mathilda's 4th husband, and they did move to Seattle, WA, so I believe this is the one we want! >> >> But then, Emery and Mathilda's divorce must have occurred BEFORE Sep of 1918. >> >> Next question: Can John and Mathilda's marriage be found in Oregon? >> >> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >> >>> Dear Mark, Barbara, Greg and other listers! >>> >>> "What a wonderful world - and list..." Thanks a million, Mark, for having discovered the "secret" behind Mathilda's 3rd marriage! It is just amazing what these newspaper columns may include of information, as long as it's possible to search for names in them! Thanks also to Barbara and Greg for further comments! If it wasn't for Ellsworth being of German background, I would have thought they were Ole and Lena arguing in that divorce procedure from Portland...!! >>> >>> Looking around a little bit, I see that Emery Elsworth Webber on his WW1 draft says he was born Oct. 4, 1875, and he was then indeed working in the ship yards!!! The 1880 census for Rice Co., MN gives his father's name as Conrad Weber, and the family obviously got around! In 1900 they were in Grand Forks, ND, but the children born between 1887 and 1896 were born in Washington! Then by 1910 Conrad had died, and his wife had moved to Portland OR! >>> >>> Now that the "Ellsworth" part of this problem has been solved, I hope it may also be possible to find Mathilda's 4th marriage to John W. Anderson? They must have been married in the fall of 1919, between Portland, OR and Seattle, WA? >>> >>> Thanks again, Mark for once more making my day! >>> >>> Very sincerely yours, >>> >>> Lars E. Oyane >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> On Mar 7, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Mark Erickson via wrote: >>> >>>> The Oregon Daily Journal (Portland, Oregon) · Sun, Apr 6, 1919 · Page 10 >>>> DIVORCE COURT A BUSY PLACE >>>> E. Ellsworth Webber, a chimney sweep, alleges in a complaint for divorce >>>> that his wife, Matilda, nagged him continually to change his vocation >>>> and seek more lucrative employment in the shipyards > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Save ? ?Print Share? Emery E Webber in the 1920 United States Federal Census Record Image View ?View blank form ?Add alternate information !Report issue Name: Emery E Webber [Emery E Weller] Age: 43 Birth Year: abt 1877 Birthplace: Minnesota Home in 1920: Portland, Multnomah, Oregon Street: 66th Street SE House Number: 5512 Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Ethel Webber Father's Birthplace: Holland Mother's Birthplace: United States [United States of America] Able to Speak English: Yes Occupation: Chimney Insp Industry: Working Out Employment Field: Wage or Salary Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Emery E Webber 43 Ethel Webber 33 Lillian E Batchelor 15 Ida M Batchelor 12 Henry M Batchelor 8 Mary W Batchelor 6 Save ? Cancel Source Citation -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 1:38 PM To: <norway@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NOR] 2nd attempt: Mathilda Ellsworth Anderson (1874-1927) -biography 1913-1920 Portland, OR-Seattle, WA - newspaper assistance? > Dear Listers, > > I have started asking myself what really happened in Portland, OR in those > years preceding 1920? > > The 1917 Portland city directory shows, among others, these entries: > > * J. Wm. Anderson (Matilda), printer, res. 1917 on 308 Jackson > > * Emery Webber (Matilda), chimney sweep., res. 690 1/2 E Morrison > > Can there be a "time lag" in the city directory? Is it possible that > Matilda was still "formally" married to Elmer Webber until 1919, while in > "reality" she was already in 1917 a "common-law" wife of John William > Anderson's? > > In the WW1 draft records from 1918 Elmer Webber is clearly alone, since > his "nearest relative" was his mother, while John William Anderson's > "nearest relative" was his wife Matilda? > > And yet I am convinced I have the "right" John William Anderson! They > moved about 1919 to Seattle, King Co., WA where I find them in the city > directories as follows: > > * 1920: John W. Anderson (Matilda), salesman, res. B3716 Angeline > > * 1922: John W. Anderson (Matilda), salesman Tent & Awning Co., res. 3716 > Angeline > > * 1924: J Wm Anderson (Matilda), res. 4017 23rd Ave SW > > * 1925: John W. Anderson (Mathilda), laborer, res. 4017 23rd Ave SW > > * 1926: Wm Anderson (Matilda), foreman ST&A Co, res. 4015(!) 23rd Ave SW > > * 1927: John W Anderson (Mathilda), salesman, res. 4017 23rd Ave SW > > Then John married Lucette, and they are together for one year: > > * 1928: John W Anderson (Lucette), salesman ST&A Co, res. 713 28th Ave > > Lucette remained on the same address, while John moved out. Perhaps these > entries are for him: > > * 1929: J W Anderson, res. 2320 41st Ave SW > > * 1930: J W Anderson, laborer, res. Hazel, WA > > I have always wondered what became of John William Anderson! Any > suggestions? > > Thanks again for your wonderful assistance identifying John William > Anderson and his wife/wives! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mar 7, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > >> Dear Mark and other Listers! >> >> Mark, I have found something very interesting in the WW1 draft record >> system which makes me wonder whether that divorce "debate" from Portland, >> OR could be a year or more off? >> >> Emery Elsworth Webber's WW1 draft record from 1918 shows him as being >> unmarried and a ship yard worker, and his closest relative was his mother >> Ella Webber! Why would he be accused by Mathilda for NOT beig a ship >> yard worker, when he already was one? >> >> Then I found this in the WW1 draft records: >> >> John William ANDERSON, born Aug. 4, 1877, a truck driver residing on 492 >> 1/2 E. Burnside in Portland, OR with nearest relative MATILDA ANDERSON, >> same address. The card is signed Sep. 12, 1918 and has an extra notation >> with a new address: 2957 Charles street, Seattle, WA! >> >> John's age is a perfect "match" with Mathilda's 4th husband, and they did >> move to Seattle, WA, so I believe this is the one we want! >> >> But then, Emery and Mathilda's divorce must have occurred BEFORE Sep of >> 1918. >> >> Next question: Can John and Mathilda's marriage be found in Oregon? >> >> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >> >>> Dear Mark, Barbara, Greg and other listers! >>> >>> "What a wonderful world - and list..." Thanks a million, Mark, for >>> having discovered the "secret" behind Mathilda's 3rd marriage! It is >>> just amazing what these newspaper columns may include of information, as >>> long as it's possible to search for names in them! Thanks also to >>> Barbara and Greg for further comments! If it wasn't for Ellsworth being >>> of German background, I would have thought they were Ole and Lena >>> arguing in that divorce procedure from Portland...!! >>> >>> Looking around a little bit, I see that Emery Elsworth Webber on his WW1 >>> draft says he was born Oct. 4, 1875, and he was then indeed working in >>> the ship yards!!! The 1880 census for Rice Co., MN gives his father's >>> name as Conrad Weber, and the family obviously got around! In 1900 they >>> were in Grand Forks, ND, but the children born between 1887 and 1896 >>> were born in Washington! Then by 1910 Conrad had died, and his wife had >>> moved to Portland OR! >>> >>> Now that the "Ellsworth" part of this problem has been solved, I hope it >>> may also be possible to find Mathilda's 4th marriage to John W. >>> Anderson? They must have been married in the fall of 1919, between >>> Portland, OR and Seattle, WA? >>> >>> Thanks again, Mark for once more making my day! >>> >>> Very sincerely yours, >>> >>> Lars E. Oyane >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> On Mar 7, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Mark Erickson via wrote: >>> >>>> The Oregon Daily Journal (Portland, Oregon) · Sun, Apr 6, 1919 · Page >>>> 10 >>>> DIVORCE COURT A BUSY PLACE >>>> E. Ellsworth Webber, a chimney sweep, alleges in a complaint for >>>> divorce >>>> that his wife, Matilda, nagged him continually to change his vocation >>>> and seek more lucrative employment in the shipyards >>> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Love the jokes. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 8, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Lenise Cook via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I agree with Barbara and Steve - This list is like family and I enjoy the interactions. The delete button is easy to hit and it is easy enough to recognize a reply you might not want to read by the "RE: [NOR] Today's Joke" subject heading, so delete it without reading it if you don't like family conversation. I have been on strictly moderated lists where nothing "off topic" is allowed and lists where the members share recipes and family stories along with genealogy and I can certainly tell you which ones are the most fun. > >> On Mar 8, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Steve via wrote: >> >> John, I second Barbra's comment, >> >> and HANS, why on earth would you object to someone telling John good joke >> and letting him know we appreciate the job he's doing. Maybe we should ask >> others about your comment and see if they concur or agree that we should be >> free to show John we appreciate the job he does >> publicly........................ >> >> Steve Natvig > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree with Barbara and Steve - This list is like family and I enjoy the interactions. The delete button is easy to hit and it is easy enough to recognize a reply you might not want to read by the "RE: [NOR] Today's Joke" subject heading, so delete it without reading it if you don't like family conversation. I have been on strictly moderated lists where nothing "off topic" is allowed and lists where the members share recipes and family stories along with genealogy and I can certainly tell you which ones are the most fun. On Mar 8, 2015, at 1:52 PM, Steve via wrote: > John, I second Barbra's comment, > > and HANS, why on earth would you object to someone telling John good joke > and letting him know we appreciate the job he's doing. Maybe we should ask > others about your comment and see if they concur or agree that we should be > free to show John we appreciate the job he does > publicly........................ > > Steve Natvig

A missionary was addressing an audience at the Bethany Lutheran church in Sebeka, Minnesota and was asked about availability and quality the food in Africa. He replied that the parishioners should be more concerned about the food in Minnesota: “The material we put into our stomachs is enough to have killed most of us sitting here, years ago. GMOs spell the death of humanity. Red meat is awful. Soft drinks corrode your stomach lining. Chinese food is loaded with MSG. High fat diets can be disastrous, and none of us realizes the long- term harm caused by the germs in our drinking water. But there is one thing that is the most dangerous of all and we all have, or will, eat it. Can anyone here tell me what food it is that causes the most grief and suffering for years after eating it?” After several seconds of quiet, a 75-year-old man in the front row, Ole Olsen, raised his hand, and softly said, “Wedding Cake?” Sent from my iPad John Ferman Kingfield Neighborhood Minneapolis, MN Email in header

Dear Listers, I have started asking myself what really happened in Portland, OR in those years preceding 1920? The 1917 Portland city directory shows, among others, these entries: * J. Wm. Anderson (Matilda), printer, res. 1917 on 308 Jackson * Emery Webber (Matilda), chimney sweep., res. 690 1/2 E Morrison Can there be a "time lag" in the city directory? Is it possible that Matilda was still "formally" married to Elmer Webber until 1919, while in "reality" she was already in 1917 a "common-law" wife of John William Anderson's? In the WW1 draft records from 1918 Elmer Webber is clearly alone, since his "nearest relative" was his mother, while John William Anderson's "nearest relative" was his wife Matilda? And yet I am convinced I have the "right" John William Anderson! They moved about 1919 to Seattle, King Co., WA where I find them in the city directories as follows: * 1920: John W. Anderson (Matilda), salesman, res. B3716 Angeline * 1922: John W. Anderson (Matilda), salesman Tent & Awning Co., res. 3716 Angeline * 1924: J Wm Anderson (Matilda), res. 4017 23rd Ave SW * 1925: John W. Anderson (Mathilda), laborer, res. 4017 23rd Ave SW * 1926: Wm Anderson (Matilda), foreman ST&A Co, res. 4015(!) 23rd Ave SW * 1927: John W Anderson (Mathilda), salesman, res. 4017 23rd Ave SW Then John married Lucette, and they are together for one year: * 1928: John W Anderson (Lucette), salesman ST&A Co, res. 713 28th Ave Lucette remained on the same address, while John moved out. Perhaps these entries are for him: * 1929: J W Anderson, res. 2320 41st Ave SW * 1930: J W Anderson, laborer, res. Hazel, WA I have always wondered what became of John William Anderson! Any suggestions? Thanks again for your wonderful assistance identifying John William Anderson and his wife/wives! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 7, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Mark and other Listers! > > Mark, I have found something very interesting in the WW1 draft record system which makes me wonder whether that divorce "debate" from Portland, OR could be a year or more off? > > Emery Elsworth Webber's WW1 draft record from 1918 shows him as being unmarried and a ship yard worker, and his closest relative was his mother Ella Webber! Why would he be accused by Mathilda for NOT beig a ship yard worker, when he already was one? > > Then I found this in the WW1 draft records: > > John William ANDERSON, born Aug. 4, 1877, a truck driver residing on 492 1/2 E. Burnside in Portland, OR with nearest relative MATILDA ANDERSON, same address. The card is signed Sep. 12, 1918 and has an extra notation with a new address: 2957 Charles street, Seattle, WA! > > John's age is a perfect "match" with Mathilda's 4th husband, and they did move to Seattle, WA, so I believe this is the one we want! > > But then, Emery and Mathilda's divorce must have occurred BEFORE Sep of 1918. > > Next question: Can John and Mathilda's marriage be found in Oregon? > > Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > >> Dear Mark, Barbara, Greg and other listers! >> >> "What a wonderful world - and list..." Thanks a million, Mark, for having discovered the "secret" behind Mathilda's 3rd marriage! It is just amazing what these newspaper columns may include of information, as long as it's possible to search for names in them! Thanks also to Barbara and Greg for further comments! If it wasn't for Ellsworth being of German background, I would have thought they were Ole and Lena arguing in that divorce procedure from Portland...!! >> >> Looking around a little bit, I see that Emery Elsworth Webber on his WW1 draft says he was born Oct. 4, 1875, and he was then indeed working in the ship yards!!! The 1880 census for Rice Co., MN gives his father's name as Conrad Weber, and the family obviously got around! In 1900 they were in Grand Forks, ND, but the children born between 1887 and 1896 were born in Washington! Then by 1910 Conrad had died, and his wife had moved to Portland OR! >> >> Now that the "Ellsworth" part of this problem has been solved, I hope it may also be possible to find Mathilda's 4th marriage to John W. Anderson? They must have been married in the fall of 1919, between Portland, OR and Seattle, WA? >> >> Thanks again, Mark for once more making my day! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On Mar 7, 2015, at 10:54 AM, Mark Erickson via wrote: >> >>> The Oregon Daily Journal (Portland, Oregon) · Sun, Apr 6, 1919 · Page 10 >>> DIVORCE COURT A BUSY PLACE >>> E. Ellsworth Webber, a chimney sweep, alleges in a complaint for divorce >>> that his wife, Matilda, nagged him continually to change his vocation >>> and seek more lucrative employment in the shipyards >>