:-D Pucker Up! Kissing Wolves in Norway https://www.yahoo.com/travel/pucker-up-kissing-wolves-in-norway-116259534867.html I thought you all might find this article interesting; photos included. I've seen a couple of wold specials and documentaries from National Geographic and Nature on YouTube and think wolves are interesting creatures. The only thing that has me curious was this part of the article: " ... you have to be physically fit to meet the wolves — no joint injuries, under-18s or pregnant women are allowed. The wolves can sense if you are pregnant — which, he added, once proved embarrassing for a 16-year-old who was with her mother." I can well imagine wolves can smell if a woman is pregnant since their noses are every bit as sensitive as their descendants - dogs who are used to sniff out a whole lot of things from people to drugs to explosives to cancer to the chemical changes in a person's body that enable them to signal to someone that a person will shortly have an epileptic seizure. But..., what do wolves DO when they know a human female is pregnant? I've never seen or heard anything about that in the various documentaries about wolves or wolves-who-became-dogs. Does anyone on the Norway List know a lot more about wolves and their domestic-wild reaction(s) to pregnant human females...? Mange takk! Bev

Ann, I had good luck googling the names of the ships I was interested in. These were US ships and most had reunion groups that could answer my questions. They had access to the ship's logs, and I was able to find out the routes taken and dates and ports where they docked. I don't know if that would work for ships from other countries, but it is worth a try. Annette On 4/19/15, Halvor via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I'm not sure if M/S Viva and D/S Viva is the same ship. Also contain a list > > of crew members > > http://warsailors.com/singleships/viva.html > > Halvor in Lier > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > From: Ann Graham via > Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 12:49 PM > To: NORWAY@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NOR] help wanted > > Hi my name is Ann > and I after some help in finding out about the ships my father was on in the > > early part of WW2. > My father was at sea when the war broke out and I was always under the > impression > that he was on the trans Atlantic Run & also into Russia. My dad died when I > > was 17 > so at that time in my life and also his it was not spoken about. > What I do know is that he joined the Royal Norwegian Navy as a Gunner in > late 1941 I have photo's of him at a passing out parade & > Xmas party in Canada. > Dad joined the M/S "Viva" on the 13/2/1942 don't know the port probably in > Canada or USA. > Signed off the "Viva" in Sydney Australia 20/11/1942 & then on the S/S > "Agnes", after this point all his signing on & off are in Sydney. > He arrived back in Sydney on the M/S "Anders Jane" the day the war ended > with Japan. > Is there some web site that I could find out the information that I"m > after?? > I'm really interested in his time in the merchant navy. > Also is there records at which ports ships docked during the war?? > > Hoping for a miracle > Ann > > > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm not sure if M/S Viva and D/S Viva is the same ship. Also contain a list of crew members http://warsailors.com/singleships/viva.html Halvor in Lier -----Opprinnelig melding----- From: Ann Graham via Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 12:49 PM To: NORWAY@rootsweb.com Subject: [NOR] help wanted Hi my name is Ann and I after some help in finding out about the ships my father was on in the early part of WW2. My father was at sea when the war broke out and I was always under the impression that he was on the trans Atlantic Run & also into Russia. My dad died when I was 17 so at that time in my life and also his it was not spoken about. What I do know is that he joined the Royal Norwegian Navy as a Gunner in late 1941 I have photo's of him at a passing out parade & Xmas party in Canada. Dad joined the M/S "Viva" on the 13/2/1942 don't know the port probably in Canada or USA. Signed off the "Viva" in Sydney Australia 20/11/1942 & then on the S/S "Agnes", after this point all his signing on & off are in Sydney. He arrived back in Sydney on the M/S "Anders Jane" the day the war ended with Japan. Is there some web site that I could find out the information that I"m after?? I'm really interested in his time in the merchant navy. Also is there records at which ports ships docked during the war?? Hoping for a miracle Ann

Searching for my first cousin's (3x removed) husband's birth and family info from Norway. His name in Minnesota: Ole Syverson His birth 1829 Norway (no info about where) We see him in Dodge and Olmsted Counties, at East St. Olaf Lutheran Church with wife Anna Botolvsdatter Larson (as she was known in MN0 and children in the 1859-1865 era Then possibly Mower Cty 1875 Census and Polk Cty after that Anna was the daughter (verified) of Botolv Larson Eitorn (went by Bottle Larson in MN) and Kristie Hansdatter Svardal (went by Christie Larson in US) Anna emigr. 1851 with her parents and siblings from Bergen, all were born in Sogn og Fjordane We have one Census saying Ole emmigr. 1852 Thank you to any one who can provide tips on finding facts about Ole. Linda

Thank you, James and Jostein, this is very interesting. I agree that I have a big task ahead, since I do not have records of my family lines that far back. But it is good to know what resources are available. Regards, Jim B in Minnesota -----Original Message----- From: norway-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norway-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Aylard via Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 12:27 AM To: Jostein Austrheim; norway@rootsweb.com; Chico@prtel.com Subject: [NOR] Finnemanntallet 1686 Jostein, Very interesting - and thank you for confirmation that this is, indeed, a transcription of the Finnemanntallet of 1686. I do not know whether Sieken would have been equivalent to the surname Siekkinen. It may well have been, considering the variability of spelling in that time and the likely unfamiliarity of Finnish surnames to most Norwegians, I would guess. I do not recall seeing a Zacarias in the lineage I got from the Forest Finn DNA Project, so perhaps a relative if not a direct ancestor for me. But the key learning from your email is that a full transcription of the Finnemanntallet is available to those in Norway or to those using a VPN service, or, I think we can appreciatively assume, for lookups by those with access on behalf of those who lack it! Jim, I hope that helps you find what you need. I added you as a direct recipient of this note, which I failed to do on my earlier note, just in case. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

I had kind of a jam packed day today or I would have looked harder at online records. I'll see if I can at least find out what churches they might have attended around Madison. Kathy > On Apr 18, 2015, at 8:18 PM, EDWARD A SCRIVEN via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Thanks to everyone who has helped me with my recent request. > > Edward A. Scriven > Layton, Utah > Always be Happy!! > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jostein, Very interesting - and thank you for confirmation that this is, indeed, a transcription of the Finnemanntallet of 1686. I do not know whether Sieken would have been equivalent to the surname Siekkinen. It may well have been, considering the variability of spelling in that time and the likely unfamiliarity of Finnish surnames to most Norwegians, I would guess. I do not recall seeing a Zacarias in the lineage I got from the Forest Finn DNA Project, so perhaps a relative if not a direct ancestor for me. But the key learning from your email is that a full transcription of the Finnemanntallet is available to those in Norway or to those using a VPN service, or, I think we can appreciatively assume, for lookups by those with access on behalf of those who lack it! Jim, I hope that helps you find what you need. I added you as a direct recipient of this note, which I failed to do on my earlier note, just in case. James Aylard On Friday, April 17, 2015, Jostein Austrheim <jostein.austrheim@haugnett.no> wrote: > This book at nb.no is a transcription of the "1686-finnemanntall". On > page 114, under Hof and "tienestefolck" is written: > > Zacarias Johansen SeiKen 23 Aar barnefød i friis dallen i Suerig af > finsche forældre och schal vere kommen der forleden Juel Sambt vanfør, och > tiener for mad och Kleder, ej schatter, > Valborih Laurids datter KerKen 20 Aar gamel, er fød i Elfvedalen af > finsche forældre, och verit i tieneste och kommen til stedet fra Suerig > forleden Jueltiider. > > Jostein A > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Aylard via" <norway@rootsweb.com > > > To: <norway@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 7:24 PM > Subject: Re: [NOR] Finnemanntallet 1686 > > > ​Jim, >> >> Your message caught my eye when I saw it, but I've been offline for >> several >> days without a chance to reply. Using the complete Arkivportalen URL that >> Bev sent to the list, I didn't see anything clearly about the >> Finnemanntallet, but using that site's search feature did return a few >> results, though probably none of them what you are looking for, I'm >> guessing: >> >> >> http://www.arkivportalen.no/side/sok/avansert?enkeltSok=true&sokeVerdi=Finnemanntallet >> >> Googling "Finnemanntallet" returned one particularly promising result, >> from >> the Nasjonalbiblioteket site, but it is available only to Norwegian-based >> IP addresses: >> >> http://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/357922e2cc096d4c58b971f4064ebc35 >> >> It was written by Erik Opsahl and published by the *Norsk historisk >> kjeldeskrift-institutt* in Oslo in 1990. Possibly one of our Norwegian >> colleagues, or someone with a VPN service, can verify whether that book is >> actually a transcription of the Finnemanntallet. On the Arkivverket site, >> there is a complete list of publications they offer that includes the same >> Finnemanntallet work that is at the Nasjonalbiblioteket site, but an >> asterisk indicates that the resource is no longer available. >> > > > -- James Aylard

Thanks to everyone who has helped me with my recent request. Edward A. Scriven Layton, Utah Always be Happy!!

From the MN marriage record database: https://www.moms.mn.gov/ <https://www.moms.mn.gov/> County Certificate # Date Applicant ! Applicant 2 LAC QUI PARLE zE09348 02/28/1909 STORAA, ENOCK O. NASS, MARY LAC QUI PARLE F14263 06/16/1914 STORAA, SOFUS ANDERSON, CONSTANCE LAC QUI PARLE E06099 09/29/1906 BAKKEN, OLAF O. OLSON, OLGA LAC QUI PARLE E11614 07/15/1911 WILSON, WILLIAM BAKKE, OLGA > On Apr 17, 2015, at 9:30 PM, EDWARD A SCRIVEN via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I am not familiar with what can be looked up and where about families from Norway who ended up in Minnesota. I am dealing with Enok Ludvg Rimo Olsen (found as Enoch Stora or Storaa in the US) and his wife Mariane Sivertsdatter Lorvik (found as Mary Stora or Storaa with her husband). He was born in Norway in 1888, and she was born in Norway in 1886. I have their birth information. They lived in Minnesota, then Seattle, and finally died in California. I have their death information. From the 1930 and 1940 censuses, it appears they married in Minnesota in 1909 approximately. I would appreciate help finding Lutheran or government records in Minnesota that would help. On 1920 they were in Grant Valley in Beltrami County, Minnesota. They emigrated in 1906 and were still single when they emigrated. In 1910 they were in Madison, Lac qui Parle county living in the same household as Enok's sister, Olga who was married there in 1906 to Oluf Olsen who used the name Bakke in Am! > erica. I tend to think Enok (Enoch) and Mariane (Mary) were also married in Madison. > I appreciate any help. > Thanks. > > > Edward A. Scriven > Layton, Utah > Always be Happy!! > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I really didn't mean to admonish anybody. :). I just must have read wrong and I thought we were looking for Larsons. I'll probably be able to hit the MN History Center on Tuesday night. That's the one night a week that they stay open late and I can go there after work. Should be super easy to get these death very copies. Kathy > On Apr 18, 2015, at 9:08 AM, lsharp@alaska.net wrote: > > Hi Kathy, > > I could add this info on the MNHS death site I sent you if you think it's worth a try. > > I do not have MNHS for these two people, but I've been tracking for some time. > > You saw probably Cliff Lien yesterday giving me 11.22.1904 as Ole's death in > Riverton, Clay Cty, MN. > > However I see another possibility with Find a Grave: > > Mrs. Ole Severson FAG #%8221448 buried at Bethlehem Lutheran Cem., Fosston, Polk > Cty, MN cites b. 8.9.1838 and that is one of two (very close) dates I have from > Norway for Anna. death of 4.16.1916 > > That death works for the little I have for my entry in 1900 Census has her alive in > Polk Cty > > Then, 6.20.1924 FindaGrave: > > #58221437 > > Ole Severson says d. 6.20.1924 > > This means Ole was 95 at death per guess of birth at 1929 (several Census say that) > > Do you think you would be able to search MNHS to see if there's a connect? > > I could add it to the chart I sent, if you wish. > > Any thoughts are welcome - thanks also for the admonishion not to believe the > divorce record in St. Paul - good to check all things. > > Linda > > > > > > >> That’s an amazing find, but I have my doubts that it is the same family at all. >> This article is up in St Paul, where there are many Scandinavian families with the >> surname Syverson. Where as Linda’s family was from down around Polk and Dodge >> and Mower counties and typically went by the Larson surname. >> >> I would want to match this newspaper article up with the actual court documents and >> witnesses’ names before I could say for sure whether it was the same family or >> not. I really have my doubts about that. >> >> Have a fabulous sunny weekend. >> >> Kathy >> >> >>> On Apr 16, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Mark Erickson via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>> Here’s Anne & Ole’s divorce. >>> St. Paul daily globe; July 2, 1886; page 2 >>> FROM THE COURTS. >>> The case of Anna Syverson vs. Ole Syverson, for divorce on the ground of cruel >>> and inhuman treatment, was also tried and submitted. >>> http://tinyurl.com/nw6eugl >>> Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway >>> >>> RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB >>> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html >>> >>> guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message >> >> >> Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway >> >> RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html >> >> guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message > > > Linda J. Sharp, M.Ed., AZ Real Estate Broker > Lsharp@alaska.net > 907-227-0036 >

Hi Kathy, I could add this info on the MNHS death site I sent you if you think it's worth a try. I do not have MNHS for these two people, but I've been tracking for some time. You saw probably Cliff Lien yesterday giving me 11.22.1904 as Ole's death in Riverton, Clay Cty, MN. However I see another possibility with Find a Grave: Mrs. Ole Severson FAG #%8221448 buried at Bethlehem Lutheran Cem., Fosston, Polk Cty, MN cites b. 8.9.1838 and that is one of two (very close) dates I have from Norway for Anna. death of 4.16.1916 That death works for the little I have for my entry in 1900 Census has her alive in Polk Cty Then, 6.20.1924 FindaGrave: #58221437 Ole Severson says d. 6.20.1924 This means Ole was 95 at death per guess of birth at 1929 (several Census say that) Do you think you would be able to search MNHS to see if there's a connect? I could add it to the chart I sent, if you wish. Any thoughts are welcome - thanks also for the admonishion not to believe the divorce record in St. Paul - good to check all things. Linda > That’s an amazing find, but I have my doubts that it is the same family at all. > This article is up in St Paul, where there are many Scandinavian families with the > surname Syverson. Where as Linda’s family was from down around Polk and Dodge > and Mower counties and typically went by the Larson surname. > > I would want to match this newspaper article up with the actual court documents and > witnesses’ names before I could say for sure whether it was the same family or > not. I really have my doubts about that. > > Have a fabulous sunny weekend. > > Kathy > > >> On Apr 16, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Mark Erickson via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> Here’s Anne & Ole’s divorce. >> St. Paul daily globe; July 2, 1886; page 2 >> FROM THE COURTS. >> The case of Anna Syverson vs. Ole Syverson, for divorce on the ground of cruel >> and inhuman treatment, was also tried and submitted. >> http://tinyurl.com/nw6eugl >> Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway >> >> RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html >> >> guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message Linda J. Sharp, M.Ed., AZ Real Estate Broker Lsharp@alaska.net 907-227-0036

Cancel that request. I found them in the same record as where Enok's sister's marriage was with the spellings of Enok O Storaa and Mary Hass. I did not know Mary used the name Hass in the U.S. Thanks and everyone have a good night/day depending on where you are. Edward A. Scriven Layton, Utah Always be Happy!!

This book at nb.no is a transcription of the "1686-finnemanntall". On page 114, under Hof and "tienestefolck" is written: Zacarias Johansen SeiKen 23 Aar barnefød i friis dallen i Suerig af finsche forældre och schal vere kommen der forleden Juel Sambt vanfør, och tiener for mad och Kleder, ej schatter, Valborih Laurids datter KerKen 20 Aar gamel, er fød i Elfvedalen af finsche forældre, och verit i tieneste och kommen til stedet fra Suerig forleden Jueltiider. Jostein A ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Aylard via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [NOR] Finnemanntallet 1686 > ​Jim, > > Your message caught my eye when I saw it, but I've been offline for > several > days without a chance to reply. Using the complete Arkivportalen URL that > Bev sent to the list, I didn't see anything clearly about the > Finnemanntallet, but using that site's search feature did return a few > results, though probably none of them what you are looking for, I'm > guessing: > > http://www.arkivportalen.no/side/sok/avansert?enkeltSok=true&sokeVerdi=Finnemanntallet > > Googling "Finnemanntallet" returned one particularly promising result, > from > the Nasjonalbiblioteket site, but it is available only to Norwegian-based > IP addresses: > > http://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/357922e2cc096d4c58b971f4064ebc35 > > It was written by Erik Opsahl and published by the *Norsk historisk > kjeldeskrift-institutt* in Oslo in 1990. Possibly one of our Norwegian > colleagues, or someone with a VPN service, can verify whether that book is > actually a transcription of the Finnemanntallet. On the Arkivverket site, > there is a complete list of publications they offer that includes the same > Finnemanntallet work that is at the Nasjonalbiblioteket site, but an > asterisk indicates that the resource is no longer available.

I am not familiar with what can be looked up and where about families from Norway who ended up in Minnesota. I am dealing with Enok Ludvg Rimo Olsen (found as Enoch Stora or Storaa in the US) and his wife Mariane Sivertsdatter Lorvik (found as Mary Stora or Storaa with her husband). He was born in Norway in 1888, and she was born in Norway in 1886. I have their birth information. They lived in Minnesota, then Seattle, and finally died in California. I have their death information. From the 1930 and 1940 censuses, it appears they married in Minnesota in 1909 approximately. I would appreciate help finding Lutheran or government records in Minnesota that would help. On 1920 they were in Grant Valley in Beltrami County, Minnesota. They emigrated in 1906 and were still single when they emigrated. In 1910 they were in Madison, Lac qui Parle county living in the same household as Enok's sister, Olga who was married there in 1906 to Oluf Olsen who used the name Bakke in America. I tend to think Enok (Enoch) and Mariane (Mary) were also married in Madison. I appreciate any help. Thanks. Edward A. Scriven Layton, Utah Always be Happy!!

Looking for the "skogfinner" in Hedmark contact: - http://www.solslekt.no/sollagus.htm (US) - http://www.solslekt.no/ (Norway) I guess they might help Halvor in Lier -----Opprinnelig melding----- From: James Aylard via Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 7:24 PM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Finnemanntallet 1686 ​Jim, Your message caught my eye when I saw it, but I've been offline for several days without a chance to reply. Using the complete Arkivportalen URL that Bev sent to the list, I didn't see anything clearly about the Finnemanntallet, but using that site's search feature did return a few results, though probably none of them what you are looking for, I'm guessing:

​Jim, Your message caught my eye when I saw it, but I've been offline for several days without a chance to reply. Using the complete Arkivportalen URL that Bev sent to the list, I didn't see anything clearly about the Finnemanntallet, but using that site's search feature did return a few results, though probably none of them what you are looking for, I'm guessing: http://www.arkivportalen.no/side/sok/avansert?enkeltSok=true&sokeVerdi=Finnemanntallet Googling "Finnemanntallet" returned one particularly promising result, from the Nasjonalbiblioteket site, but it is available only to Norwegian-based IP addresses: http://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/357922e2cc096d4c58b971f4064ebc35 It was written by Erik Opsahl and published by the *Norsk historisk kjeldeskrift-institutt* in Oslo in 1990. Possibly one of our Norwegian colleagues, or someone with a VPN service, can verify whether that book is actually a transcription of the Finnemanntallet. On the Arkivverket site, there is a complete list of publications they offer that includes the same Finnemanntallet work that is at the Nasjonalbiblioteket site, but an asterisk indicates that the resource is no longer available. One other resource I came across is what I understand to be digital images of the original Finnemanntallet document, provided by Kari Thingvold on her personal Picasa site (if I have misunderstood these images, someone please correct me): https://picasaweb.google.com/114651696693889317875/SRStNorge1686Finnemanntall# Translating directly from those images would be quite a challenge, but if you saw a name you recognized, I imagine someone on this list could do it. For my own part, I have learned only in the past several months that my mother's paternal lineage is Forest Finn. The revelation first came through DNA which showed a distinctive North Eurasian haplotype (N-M231), which is relatively rare in Norway, but is very common in Finland. Quite an unexpected surprise, to be sure! I also joined the Forest Finn DNA Project at Family Tree DNA, and immediately got substantial help from that project that linked my existing paper trail back to a known Forest Finn family (Siekkinen). It sounds like in your case the linkage may be through autosomal DNA, which will make that connection harder, though by no means impossible, to find. Keep in mind, too, that making a direct link back to the Finnemanntallet may be too big a leap to make initially, unless you have a very complete and well-research tree back to that time period. If you tested through Family Tree DNA, I strongly encourage you to join the Forest Finn DNA Project and start asking questions on its forum page. If you tested through another company, that project won't be available to you, but I can put you in touch with someone helpful who can probably provide some assistance. I wish you the best! James Aylard ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Bergquist via <norway@rootsweb.com> > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 9:18 PM > Subject: [NOR] Finnemanntallet 1686 > > Hi all, I am still reading the Norway List, but busy with career. > > Do any of you know if I can access the Finnemanntallet 1686 online? It is a > census of people of Finnish descent living in Norway then. I found one > link, > > http://www.arkivportalen.no/side/arkiv/detaljer?arkivId=no-a1450-01000001614 > 213 > that says it has the census in its contents, but I cannot access it. > > Some DNA information and an email from a man in Finland suggested that I > may > have an ancestor from this cultural group, called the Forest Finns, who > immigrated to Norway or Sweden in the 1600s. If so, it would be my first > ancestor who is not Norwegian or Swedish! > > You can read about this cultural group here: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_Finns > Apparently, the largest number of Forest Finns in Norway were in Hedmark. > > Best, > Jim B in Minnesota > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > -- James Aylard

This seems to be his death record... https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FDMV-ZFS Name: Ole Severson Gender: Male Death Date: 22 Nov 1904 Death Place: Riverton, Clay, Minnesota Age: 76 Birth Date: 1828 Birthplace: Norway Race: White Marital Status: Married Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com -----Original Message----- From: Linda Sharp Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 10:13 AM To: Cliff Lien ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Svardal Larson Eitorn Anne offspring Yes! This is the family. Tusen takk I'd love to know ole exact birth. Imig. Where born. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Cliff Lien via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > And I think this looks like Ole and Annie in the 1900 census > Now in Clay county > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11120-91788-73?cc=1325221 > > (Annie L for Anna Larsen?) > > So maybe one of the daughters married a Reid? > > Have you figured out where Ole Syverson is from? > > > Cliff Lien > Alberta, Canada > cjl@interbaun.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kay Jetton via > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 10:26 AM > To: lsharp ; norway@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NOR] Svardal Larson Eitorn Anne offspring > > #3. Info about their oldest daughter Anne who married Ole Syverson - and > their > offspring Andreas (b. 1858); Sara b. 1861; Augusta b. 1864; Anne Christene > b. 1864 > and Bertine Oline b. 1866. > > Any tips for finding the place of birth, residence, marriage or death of > Anna, Ole > and their children as well as Anna's parents would be much appreciated. > > > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

And I think this looks like Ole and Annie in the 1900 census Now in Clay county https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11120-91788-73?cc=1325221 (Annie L for Anna Larsen?) So maybe one of the daughters married a Reid? Have you figured out where Ole Syverson is from? Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com -----Original Message----- From: Kay Jetton via Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 10:26 AM To: lsharp ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Svardal Larson Eitorn Anne offspring #3. Info about their oldest daughter Anne who married Ole Syverson - and their offspring Andreas (b. 1858); Sara b. 1861; Augusta b. 1864; Anne Christene b. 1864 and Bertine Oline b. 1866. Any tips for finding the place of birth, residence, marriage or death of Anna, Ole and their children as well as Anna's parents would be much appreciated.

Looks like Ole and Anna here in Mower county in the 1875 MN census. The link is to Ancestry image... http://tinyurl.com/lusxwkb Syverson Ole Male 46 1829 White Norway Syverson Anne Female 36 1839 White Norway Syverson Sorine Female 13 1862 White Minnesota Syverson Christine Female 11 1864 White Minnesota Syverson Bertine O Female 9 1866 White Minnesota Syverson Amalia Female 5 1870 White Minnesota Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com -----Original Message----- From: lsharp via Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:39 AM To: Norway@rootsweb.com Subject: [NOR] Svardal Larson Eitorn Anne offspring I'm searching for Anna Botolvsdatter Eitorn, b. 8.9.1838 or 1839 in Sogn og Fjordane, Norway who emig. 1851 with her parents and siblings. #3. Info about their oldest daughter Anne who married Ole Syverson - and their offspring Andreas (b. 1858); Sara b. 1861; Augusta b. 1864; Anne Christene b. 1864 and Bertine Oline b. 1866. Any tips for finding the place of birth, residence, marriage or death of Anna, Ole and their children as well as Anna's parents would be much appreciated.

That’s an amazing find, but I have my doubts that it is the same family at all. This article is up in St Paul, where there are many Scandinavian families with the surname Syverson. Where as Linda’s family was from down around Polk and Dodge and Mower counties and typically went by the Larson surname. I would want to match this newspaper article up with the actual court documents and witnesses’ names before I could say for sure whether it was the same family or not. I really have my doubts about that. Have a fabulous sunny weekend. Kathy > On Apr 16, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Mark Erickson via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Here’s Anne & Ole’s divorce. > St. Paul daily globe; July 2, 1886; page 2 > FROM THE COURTS. > The case of Anna Syverson vs. Ole Syverson, for divorce on the ground of cruel and inhuman treatment, was also tried and submitted. > http://tinyurl.com/nw6eugl > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message