Hi, Inger Andreasdatter born 1874, Løten, Norway emigrated Oct. 08, 1889. I need help to find her i USA. Hans Myhre

Dear Annette, John, Hans and other Listers! Thanks a million for your additional comments on Charles Gudmundsen and his "endeavors". It sounds like he had a very interesting life, kind of "different" from most of the emigrant families which I am researching... Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 6, 2015, at 6:36 PM, Annette Bowen via wrote: > Lars, > Apparently Ruth and the children went back and forth to Norway because > familysearch has them on numerous Passenger and Crew Lists. The > address on the ones I looked at was Brooklyn, NY. This list says > Borre and Gerd were born in Mandel, Norway, as was Ruth. > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-22093-12898-71?cc=1923888 > > Apparently the family traveled a lot, maybe because Charles was at > sea. Gerd's marriage took place in Los Angeles, California. It looks > like Borre also became a sailor. > > Annette > > On 5/6/15, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> Dear Joy, Kay and other listers! >> >> I am so sorry, it's mu fault! I was so excited finding he had died in >> Norway, so I didn't open the attachment until half an hour ago, and I >> discovered, he had died in Kristiansand! >> >> However, what it does NOT say, is whether he was a resident of Kristiansand >> at the time he died. Had they moved there as retirees, or were they just >> visiting? >> >> Anyway, it's not really important! We now Ruth re-emigrated to the US and >> died there! >> >> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On May 6, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Joy Gulden via wrote: >> >>> It seemed to me that Lars was unable to access the actual image as it >>> gave the place of death, so I sent the image to him off list. Joy >>> >>> On 5/6/2015 7:40 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>>> Dear Kay and other Listers! >>>> >>>> Thanks a million, Kay, for solving this big problem of mine! So, Charles >>>> died while visiting Norway, and my next step will be trying to figure out >>>> where in Norway he died. I suppose Bergen is the most likely place, but >>>> we just don't know... >>>> >>>> In the meantime I have also found the explanations of the seaman titles >>>> of his. Apparently he ended up as a captain (master)! >>>> >>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I am not an expert on naval titles, but I found "matros" for "seaman" in concise dictionary. Didn't find anything for "jungmann." Sent from my iPad John Ferman Minneapolis, MN > On May 7, 2015, at 2:00 AM, norway-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 04:37:18 -0500 > From: "Lars E. Oyane" <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> > Subject: [NOR] Charles Gudmundsen - lifelong seaman of Brooklyn, NY > (1892- ) - help to interpret seaman titles - died when? > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <CF9D4F21-F255-4712-BB90-FE8E1ED237C2@sdsl.no> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Dear Listers! > > Do we have any experts on seaman titles? > > Karl Johan aka Charles John Gudmundsen > born in Bergen, Norway Sep. 2, 1892 > emigrated in 1911 as a "jungmann" (mate?) to A

I am not an expert on naval titles, but I found "matros" for "seaman" in concise dictionary. Didn't find anything for "jungmann." Sent from my iPad John Ferman Minneapolis, MN > On May 7, 2015, at 2:00 AM, norway-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 04:37:18 -0500 > From: "Lars E. Oyane" <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> > Subject: [NOR] Charles Gudmundsen - lifelong seaman of Brooklyn, NY > (1892- ) - help to interpret seaman titles - died when? > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <CF9D4F21-F255-4712-BB90-FE8E1ED237C2@sdsl.no> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Dear Listers! > > Do we have any experts on seaman titles? > > Karl Johan aka Charles John Gudmundsen > born in Bergen, Norway Sep. 2, 1892 > emigrated in 1911 as a "jungmann" (mate?) to A

Oh, it's the parents of Kari Rolandsdatter b. abt 1778 we are seeking... Lars Larsen Qvame married Kari Rolandd. Qvame 7 July 1810 in Vik I Sogn Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com -----Original Message----- From: Cliff Lien via Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 7:46 AM To: nukilik ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Berge Olson Linde Family So my best bet for Birger's mother using the S og F Fylksarkivet databases... Britha Thord. born in Vik 5 Oct 1813 Father Thor Birges. Tenefossen Mother Ingebiør Ellingd. Just because the father is Birgesen Here is the image at lower right... Kildeinformasjon: Sogn og Fjordane fylke, Vik, Ministerialbo nr. A 5 (1787-1820), Fødte og døpte 1813, side 408-409. Permanent sidelenke: www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=11756&idx_id=11756&uid=ny&idx_side=-193 Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I Can anyone help me with this man. I find his baptism in Meldal 19 April 1847 born to Jon Jonsen and Berit Olsdatter. Then I find his marriage 8 April 1869 to Ingeborg Jørgendatter in Meldal.Then I cannot find him until 1900 when he leaves for America from Trondheim. I cannot find the birth of any children nor find him on any census. I believe he lived on Snoen farm (Rennebue?) as he take that last name in the US. I am having trouble finding his father also who lived at Stenshagen in Meldal I think. Thank you for any help. Virginia Lindsey

So my best bet for Birger's mother using the S og F Fylksarkivet databases... Britha Thord. born in Vik 5 Oct 1813 Father Thor Birges. Tenefossen Mother Ingebiør Ellingd. Just because the father is Birgesen Here is the image at lower right... Kildeinformasjon: Sogn og Fjordane fylke, Vik, Ministerialbo nr. A 5 (1787-1820), Fødte og døpte 1813, side 408-409. Permanent sidelenke: www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=11756&idx_id=11756&uid=ny&idx_side=-193 Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com

Found the starting point anyway... Birger born 3 November, chr 6 Nov 1842 in Vik I Sogn, S og F Unwed mother Britha Thorsdatter (Something) and Ungkarl Ole Lassen Linde (certainly could be Larsen) Tough to read this entry... Kildeinformasjon: Sogn og Fjordane fylke, Vik, Ministerialbok nr. A 7 (1831-1845) Fødte og døpte 1842, side 69. Permanent sidelenke: www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=11758&idx_id=11758&uid=ny&idx_side=-70 Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com -----Original Message----- From: nukilik via Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 6:42 AM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Berge Olson Linde Family Hello Clark and Barbara, I found this message at the Archives from Marilyn (year 2000) <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/norway/2000-06/0961333252> Still I have not really any idea where the family lived, she is searching for. You might have? Reina On 5/5/2015 9:49 PM, maeallen via wrote: Hello all, After years of searching and a trip to Norway, with your help I found Berg's family and where he came from. Berge was born in 1842 and emigrated in 1864. There is still one blank in his tree that maybe someone can help me with. Berg's parents were Ole Larson Linde b 1810 and Brita Thorsdatter Tusvig b 1813. Ole's parents were Lars Larson Skitnevik b 1781 and Kari Rolandsdatter b 1778. I can not find her parents. The only people who seem to fit in are Roland Olsen b 1741 and Ragnilde Botolfodatter b 1743. This is just a guess on my part and hope someone can figure out who Kari's parents could be. Thanks for any help, Marilyn Allen GGGranddaughter of Berge Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have a copy of "Gårds- og slektshistorie for Øymark" or know where I could get a hold of a copy?  Thanks! Andrea Sivertson

Back in 2004 someone from Norway sent me a census reference of http://snipurl.com/8tzw. Of course, URLs have changed a great deal since then. Anyone recognize to what the reference was to. Pardon for ending a sentence in a prepositio. Sent from my iPad John Ferman Minneapolis, MN

http://snipurl.com is a website (app) that shortens long urls into shorter, more manageable ones, so this could have originally been really anything. Maybe someone could help if you provided the context (what census, where, who, etc.) Garth ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Ferman via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: "Rootsweb Norway" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 7:56 PM Subject: [NOR] Old URL > Back in 2004 someone from Norway sent me a census reference of > http://snipurl.com/8tzw. Of course, URLs have changed a great deal since > then. Anyone recognize to what the reference was to. Pardon for ending a > sentence in a prepositio. > > Sent from my iPad > John Ferman > Minneapolis, MN

http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/files/word.htm spisevært landlord, host of a dinner establishment, eating house keeper styrmand (see "stymann") styrmann ships mate On 5/6/15, John Ferman via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > The 1865 census for Kragerø lists a great grand uncle as a Sturmand - does > that refer to a ship mate occupation. On the same census a great great > grandmother is listed as a Spiseværtinde - does that have something to do > with eating. I looked up these two words in a recent Norwegian-English > dictionary - that is where I got my ideas of what they might have to do > with. > > Sent from my iPad > John Ferman > Minneapolis, MN > > > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

The 1865 census for Kragerø lists a great grand uncle as a Sturmand - does that refer to a ship mate occupation. On the same census a great great grandmother is listed as a Spiseværtinde - does that have something to do with eating. I looked up these two words in a recent Norwegian-English dictionary - that is where I got my ideas of what they might have to do with. Sent from my iPad John Ferman Minneapolis, MN

Lars, Apparently Ruth and the children went back and forth to Norway because familysearch has them on numerous Passenger and Crew Lists. The address on the ones I looked at was Brooklyn, NY. This list says Borre and Gerd were born in Mandel, Norway, as was Ruth. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-22093-12898-71?cc=1923888 Apparently the family traveled a lot, maybe because Charles was at sea. Gerd's marriage took place in Los Angeles, California. It looks like Borre also became a sailor. Annette On 5/6/15, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Dear Joy, Kay and other listers! > > I am so sorry, it's mu fault! I was so excited finding he had died in > Norway, so I didn't open the attachment until half an hour ago, and I > discovered, he had died in Kristiansand! > > However, what it does NOT say, is whether he was a resident of Kristiansand > at the time he died. Had they moved there as retirees, or were they just > visiting? > > Anyway, it's not really important! We now Ruth re-emigrated to the US and > died there! > > Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On May 6, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Joy Gulden via wrote: > >> It seemed to me that Lars was unable to access the actual image as it >> gave the place of death, so I sent the image to him off list. Joy >> >> On 5/6/2015 7:40 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>> Dear Kay and other Listers! >>> >>> Thanks a million, Kay, for solving this big problem of mine! So, Charles >>> died while visiting Norway, and my next step will be trying to figure out >>> where in Norway he died. I suppose Bergen is the most likely place, but >>> we just don't know... >>> >>> In the meantime I have also found the explanations of the seaman titles >>> of his. Apparently he ended up as a captain (master)! >>> >>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>> >>> Very sincerely yours, >>> >>> Lars E. Oyane >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

  Hello Listers, I will be going to the Minnesota Historical Society on the 12th of May. If you have a death cert that you are missing, I will set aside sometime and pick them up for you. All you will need to do is go on the Minnesota Death Index http://people.mnhs.org/dci/ and locate the death certificate number and send it to me offline. I will try to get as many as time permits. Gregory A Aanenson

Hello Clark and Barbara, I found this message at the Archives from Marilyn (year 2000) <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/norway/2000-06/0961333252> Still I have not really any idea where the family lived, she is searching for. You might have? Reina On 5/5/2015 9:49 PM, maeallen via wrote: Hello all, After years of searching and a trip to Norway, with your help I found Berg's family and where he came from. Berge was born in 1842 and emigrated in 1864. There is still one blank in his tree that maybe someone can help me with. Berg's parents were Ole Larson Linde b 1810 and Brita Thorsdatter Tusvig b 1813. Ole's parents were Lars Larson Skitnevik b 1781 and Kari Rolandsdatter b 1778. I can not find her parents. The only people who seem to fit in are Roland Olsen b 1741 and Ragnilde Botolfodatter b 1743. This is just a guess on my part and hope someone can figure out who Kari's parents could be. Thanks for any help, Marilyn Allen GGGranddaughter of Berge

Severina's tombstone is on findagrave, but it only gives a year, 1918. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=110739412 Annette On 5/6/15, Mark Erickson via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hei Lars, > It doesn’t say where the marriage took place, but the article (2 pages long) > seems to be listing every marriage that took place in Dane County for the > year 1920. > > I haven’t been able to find anything else about them in the papers. I > noticed another family tree online that run by David Mindel. > http://tinyurl.com/oxlsqlm > His tree suggests that Severina went by the name Susan (Midthun). You might > try contacting him. > > >> Did it by any chance say WHERE the marriage took place? > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Joy, Kay and other listers! I am so sorry, it's mu fault! I was so excited finding he had died in Norway, so I didn't open the attachment until half an hour ago, and I discovered, he had died in Kristiansand! However, what it does NOT say, is whether he was a resident of Kristiansand at the time he died. Had they moved there as retirees, or were they just visiting? Anyway, it's not really important! We now Ruth re-emigrated to the US and died there! Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 6, 2015, at 12:27 PM, Joy Gulden via wrote: > It seemed to me that Lars was unable to access the actual image as it > gave the place of death, so I sent the image to him off list. Joy > > On 5/6/2015 7:40 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >> Dear Kay and other Listers! >> >> Thanks a million, Kay, for solving this big problem of mine! So, Charles died while visiting Norway, and my next step will be trying to figure out where in Norway he died. I suppose Bergen is the most likely place, but we just don't know... >> >> In the meantime I have also found the explanations of the seaman titles of his. Apparently he ended up as a captain (master)! >> >> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Lars,  Found the following on Ancestry.  Looks as if it might be your Charles John Gudmundsen. http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=deathsamericancitizenabroad&h=141285&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=6482 Kay Jetton in S. Illinois On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 4:41 AM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: Dear Listers! Do we have any experts on seaman titles? Karl Johan aka Charles John Gudmundsen born in Bergen, Norway Sep. 2, 1892 emigrated in 1911 as a "jungmann" (mate?) to America and married in Bronx Co., NY June 4, 1921 to Ruth Christensdotter Landaas, born in Mandal, Norway Sep. 24, 1891. The couple resided in Brooklyn, Kings Co., NY Charles supposedly died in Brooklyn, NY, and as a widow Ruth moved to Bethel, Sullivan Co., NY, but she died at Cheshire, CT Nov. 25, 1980. Charles Gudmundsen is recorded many times on ancestry.com being a seaman and sailing, I would say, all over the world.  He obviously started out as a "mate", then I see in 1934 he is referred to as a "chief offer", and from about 1940 he was a "master".  The last time I find him as such is in 1953, when he sailed to Bremerhaven in Germany.  Only in a newspaper clipping from 1946 he is referred to as a "skipper" sailing from Mexico to San Francisco, CA.  Can anyone help me, please, to explain these seaman titles of Charles'? The very last entry on ancestry.com is from 1954 when he was on a flight by SAS from Oslo to New York! We know Charles was dead by 1968 (when a sister of his died in Bergen, Norway), as he was then survived by children Karl, Gerd and Borre, but so far I have been unable to find an exact date (and place) of his death!  Can anyone help me, please? Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hei, Marilyn. It would be helpful if you shared the links to information already found. We have no idea what region of Norway you found your family. Help us help you. Have a nice day! Clark in Japan On 06-May-15 10:49 AM, maeallen via wrote: > Hello all, > After years of searching and a trip to Norway, with your help I found Berg's family and where he came from. Berge was born in 1842 and emigrated in 1864. There is still one blank in his tree that maybe someone can help me with. > > Berg's parents were Ole Larson Linde b 1810 and Brita Thorsdatter Tusvig b 1813. > Ole's parents were Lars Larson Skitnevik b 1781 and Kari Rolandsdatter b 1778. > I can not find her parents. The only people who seem to fit in are Roland Olsen b 1741 and > Ragnilde Botolfodatter b 1743. > This is just a guess on my part and hope someone can figure out who Kari's parents could be. > > Thanks for any help, > Marilyn Allen > GGGranddaughter of Berge