Excllent!! -----Original Message----- From: Doris Waggoner via Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 6:15 PM To: John Ferman ; Norway List Subject: Re: [NOR] Today's Joke Reminds me of how my Norwegian mother solved this problem when we were kids. The house rule was "I cut, you choose." That way the kid who cut the cake or pie had an incentive to make the pieces as equal as possible. Otherwise, they were bound to end up with the smallest one, because they could count on one of their siblings to choose the biggest one. It worked, too! Since there were three kids, we all learned how to cut things into five equal pieces, which is quite a trick. Doris On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 2:55 PM, John Ferman via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Lena and Hilda were having dinner together one night. > > When it came time for dessert, Lena took the largest piece of cake. > > Hilda looked very surprised and said, "Vell, Lena, dat sure vasn't very > polite of yew! Yew took da biggest piece of cake." > > "Vell, vhat vould yew have done?" asked Lena. > > "Vell, I vould have been polite and taken da smaller vun!" replied Hilda. > > "Vell, vhat are yew griping (klager?) about?" Lena asked with a smile. > "Yew have it." > > > Sent from my iPad > John Ferman > Minneapolis, MN > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Lena and Hilda were having dinner together one night. When it came time for dessert, Lena took the largest piece of cake. Hilda looked very surprised and said, "Vell, Lena, dat sure vasn't very polite of yew! Yew took da biggest piece of cake." "Vell, vhat vould yew have done?" asked Lena. "Vell, I vould have been polite and taken da smaller vun!" replied Hilda. "Vell, vhat are yew griping (klager?) about?" Lena asked with a smile. "Yew have it." Sent from my iPad John Ferman Minneapolis, MN
Reminds me of how my Norwegian mother solved this problem when we were kids. The house rule was "I cut, you choose." That way the kid who cut the cake or pie had an incentive to make the pieces as equal as possible. Otherwise, they were bound to end up with the smallest one, because they could count on one of their siblings to choose the biggest one. It worked, too! Since there were three kids, we all learned how to cut things into five equal pieces, which is quite a trick. Doris On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 2:55 PM, John Ferman via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Lena and Hilda were having dinner together one night. > > When it came time for dessert, Lena took the largest piece of cake. > > Hilda looked very surprised and said, "Vell, Lena, dat sure vasn't very > polite of yew! Yew took da biggest piece of cake." > > "Vell, vhat vould yew have done?" asked Lena. > > "Vell, I vould have been polite and taken da smaller vun!" replied Hilda. > > "Vell, vhat are yew griping (klager?) about?" Lena asked with a smile. > "Yew have it." > > > Sent from my iPad > John Ferman > Minneapolis, MN > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
It is said: Iver Romfoe begravet 11 january 77 aar Iver Romfoe buried, 11 januari age 77 Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Nancy Hunt via Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 11:48 PM To: Norway-List Subject: [NOR] Deciphering help needed I'm having difficulty with my 5th ggfather's death entry in the 1816 Sunndal (Møre og Romsdal) parish register.He's Ivar Romfoe, number 4 near the bottom of the page. Ivar Romfoe ??? 11 Januar 77 aar Can anyone decipher the word following Romfoe? Many thanks for your help.Nancy http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070914630177.jpg | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | View on www.arkivverket.no | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Nancy - The handwriting is different from most of the rest of the page, but since you sent the bottom link instead of the one right under the Source data, I can't compare it to any other page. I will go out on a limb and say that Iver [who lived at] Romfoe was an Engemant/d..., a Gothic alternate spelling of Enkemand [Enkemann = modern spelling], or widower. The ink blob covers much, but with the two lines before January, he may have either died or was buried on 11 January 1816, age 77 at death. Living at a Romfoe farm headed by Lars Iversen for the 1801 Norwegian Census was [#11, 12] Iver Toresen and his wife, Randi Olsdatter, listed as the father and mother of he head of household, and Iver Toresen is of the right age to be the one in the death/burial record. http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/bosted_land/bf01058429000246 If you don't already have it, the death/burial record for Randi Olsdatter [living at] Romfoe would likely be found between 1801 and January 1816. Beste hilsen, Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy Hunt via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: Norway-List <norway-l@rootsweb.com> Cc: Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 4:48 PM Subject: [NOR] Deciphering help needed I'm having difficulty with my 5th ggfather's death entry in the 1816 Sunndal (Møre og Romsdal) parish register.He's Ivar Romfoe, number 4 near the bottom of the page. Ivar Romfoe ??? 11 Januar 77 aar Can anyone decipher the word following Romfoe? Many thanks for your help.Nancy http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070914630177.jpg
I'm having difficulty with my 5th ggfather's death entry in the 1816 Sunndal (Møre og Romsdal) parish register.He's Ivar Romfoe, number 4 near the bottom of the page. Ivar Romfoe ??? 11 Januar 77 aar Can anyone decipher the word following Romfoe? Many thanks for your help.Nancy http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070914630177.jpg | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | View on www.arkivverket.no | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
Dear Greg, Elise and other Listers! Thank you very much for your comments to my message in regard to the Nygaard family. As far as Facebook is concerned, I guess a lot of people participate in that "enterprise". I don't personally have too high thoughts of it, but my wife uses it as part of her job. She has tried sending a few messages on my behalf, but nobody has ever responded! So, I tend to prefer the NORWAY list after all... I have tried the two numbers you sent me, Greg, and the AZ number is apparently correct; however, the first tie I called, I met a woman who was rather "reluctant", and I didn't have the chance to tell her what I was doing. She said she just too busy, so we agreed I should call again later. I did so, and then got an answering machine, which at least gave me the chance to explain my call! So we'll see what happens! The CO number is busy all the time, so it sounds like there may be something wrong about it... But thank you once again very much for your help! I guess there isn't much more we can do other than hope for an answer from AZ (I left my e-mail address)... Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 20, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Greg Hanson via wrote: > > I found this phone number for Loyd and Brenda: > > 602 549 5761 > > Nathan: 970 521 4363 > > >> Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 10:45:55 -0500 >> To: norway@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [NOR] Nygaard family in CO and AZ - contact assistance, please >> From: norway@rootsweb.com >> >> Dear Listers, >> >> This inquiry of mine refers to the following obituary for Goldie Nygaard found on "find-a-grave" (I have left out details not relevant to my inquiry): >> >> ~~~~~ >> >> Goldie Eileen Nygaard, 88, of Sterling, died Feb. 16, 2012, in Sterling. ..... Goldie was born Jan. 11, 1929, in a one-room sod house in McDonald to Henry Lee and Bertha (Banister) Hallagin. ...... >> >> On Dec. 2, 1944, she married Olav Nygaard in Englewood. ...... >> >> Goldie is survived by her son, Lonell "Olie" Nygaard of Sterling and his family, Brandi Johnson of Fort Collins and Scott Stauffer of Greeley; son, Loyd Nygaard and wife Brenda of New River, Ariz., and their family, Heather and husband Adam of Sun City, Ariz., and Brandon, serving in the U.S. Army at Frankfurt, Germany; son, Nathan Nygaard and wife Shawna of Sterling and their family, Aislinn, Josie, Kjellaug, Felicity, Jason, Jamecia and Lexie of Sterling; sister, Rudy Waddill of Englewood; and one great-granddaughter to be whom Goldie never got to embrace. >> >> She was preceded in death by her husband, Olav Nygaard in 1970; son, Barry Lane Nygaard; and nine brothers and sisters. >> >> ~~~~~ >> >> I am trying to get in contact with at least one of these brothers, children of Olav L. Nygaard (1920-1970) and Goldie Eileen nee Hallagin (1923-2012): >> >> * Loyd (Brenda) Nygaard of New River, AZ, or >> >> * Nathan (Shawna) Nygaard of Sterling, CO >> >> but they both have secret phone numbers, and I just don't know how to contact them. Loyd Nygaard is or has been a hotel manager, so he should be possible to locate... >> >> Any assistance to locate these brothers would be more than welcome! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >>
Hello, Listers, For a long time I have searched for Robert Pedersen's death. On familysearch.com, I have recently found Robert Pederson (one letter change) who was born on May 12, 1916 (right date) in Chicago. It shows that he died on January 11, 1978 with an address of 516 N Clark, Chicago. The record shows he was buried Feb 1st in Archer Woods Memorial Park. It also shows J Shea as the funeral home for Robert. I want to verify that this is the Robert Pederson/Pederson for whom I am seeking a date of death and place of burial. I have contacted the cemetery but some of the records are in their second cemetery and I haven't heard back yet. I haven't been able to find a J Shea funeral home on Google. I did find Robert J Sheehy & Sons Funeral Home but have been told they have no record of Robert Pederson. Is there anyone on this list who is familiar with Chicago funeral homes who could help me out with finding J Shea? That could be misspelled or be only part of the name. The informant for this information was Jeanna A Yogsla. Her last name seems to be completely misspelled as I have not found that name anywhere. Does anyone have an idea of what the correct spelling might be? Thanks for any help you can give. I am hoping that this is the Robert Pederson/Pedersen for whom I have been searching. Harold
Harold, I don't know if this might be what you are looking for, but there was an undertaker called O'Shea & McMahon at 406 South Cicero Ave in Cicero, Illinois that went out of business in the 70's. Not sure where there records might have ended up. Bill On 5/20/2015 3:23 PM, Harold Christensen via wrote: > It also shows J Shea as the funeral home for Robert.
I found this phone number for Loyd and Brenda: 602 549 5761 Nathan: 970 521 4363 > Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 10:45:55 -0500 > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NOR] Nygaard family in CO and AZ - contact assistance, please > From: norway@rootsweb.com > > Dear Listers, > > This inquiry of mine refers to the following obituary for Goldie Nygaard found on "find-a-grave" (I have left out details not relevant to my inquiry): > > ~~~~~ > > Goldie Eileen Nygaard, 88, of Sterling, died Feb. 16, 2012, in Sterling. ..... Goldie was born Jan. 11, 1929, in a one-room sod house in McDonald to Henry Lee and Bertha (Banister) Hallagin. ...... > > On Dec. 2, 1944, she married Olav Nygaard in Englewood. ...... > > Goldie is survived by her son, Lonell "Olie" Nygaard of Sterling and his family, Brandi Johnson of Fort Collins and Scott Stauffer of Greeley; son, Loyd Nygaard and wife Brenda of New River, Ariz., and their family, Heather and husband Adam of Sun City, Ariz., and Brandon, serving in the U.S. Army at Frankfurt, Germany; son, Nathan Nygaard and wife Shawna of Sterling and their family, Aislinn, Josie, Kjellaug, Felicity, Jason, Jamecia and Lexie of Sterling; sister, Rudy Waddill of Englewood; and one great-granddaughter to be whom Goldie never got to embrace. > > She was preceded in death by her husband, Olav Nygaard in 1970; son, Barry Lane Nygaard; and nine brothers and sisters. > > ~~~~~ > > I am trying to get in contact with at least one of these brothers, children of Olav L. Nygaard (1920-1970) and Goldie Eileen nee Hallagin (1923-2012): > > * Loyd (Brenda) Nygaard of New River, AZ, or > > * Nathan (Shawna) Nygaard of Sterling, CO > > but they both have secret phone numbers, and I just don't know how to contact them. Loyd Nygaard is or has been a hotel manager, so he should be possible to locate... > > Any assistance to locate these brothers would be more than welcome! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
On Valentine's day, Ole was buying a fountain pen. "I am buying dis pen for my vife, Lena," he told the clerk. "Is it a surprise?" the clerk asked. "Vell, ya, sure is," replied Ole, "Yew see, she's expecting a mink coat." Sent from my iPad John Ferman Minneapolis, MN
Dear Listers, This inquiry of mine refers to the following obituary for Goldie Nygaard found on "find-a-grave" (I have left out details not relevant to my inquiry): ~~~~~ Goldie Eileen Nygaard, 88, of Sterling, died Feb. 16, 2012, in Sterling. ..... Goldie was born Jan. 11, 1929, in a one-room sod house in McDonald to Henry Lee and Bertha (Banister) Hallagin. ...... On Dec. 2, 1944, she married Olav Nygaard in Englewood. ...... Goldie is survived by her son, Lonell "Olie" Nygaard of Sterling and his family, Brandi Johnson of Fort Collins and Scott Stauffer of Greeley; son, Loyd Nygaard and wife Brenda of New River, Ariz., and their family, Heather and husband Adam of Sun City, Ariz., and Brandon, serving in the U.S. Army at Frankfurt, Germany; son, Nathan Nygaard and wife Shawna of Sterling and their family, Aislinn, Josie, Kjellaug, Felicity, Jason, Jamecia and Lexie of Sterling; sister, Rudy Waddill of Englewood; and one great-granddaughter to be whom Goldie never got to embrace. She was preceded in death by her husband, Olav Nygaard in 1970; son, Barry Lane Nygaard; and nine brothers and sisters. ~~~~~ I am trying to get in contact with at least one of these brothers, children of Olav L. Nygaard (1920-1970) and Goldie Eileen nee Hallagin (1923-2012): * Loyd (Brenda) Nygaard of New River, AZ, or * Nathan (Shawna) Nygaard of Sterling, CO but they both have secret phone numbers, and I just don't know how to contact them. Loyd Nygaard is or has been a hotel manager, so he should be possible to locate... Any assistance to locate these brothers would be more than welcome! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane
Lars, another thing you can always do is check Facebook to see if they are on there. I do find Loyd there. https://www.facebook.com/loyd.nygaard?fref=ts and here is nathan https://www.facebook.com/nathan.nygaard.3?pnref=friends.search On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Greg Hanson via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I found this phone number for Loyd and Brenda: > > 602 549 5761 > > Nathan: 970 521 4363 > > > > Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 10:45:55 -0500 > > To: norway@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [NOR] Nygaard family in CO and AZ - contact assistance, please > > From: norway@rootsweb.com > > > > Dear Listers, > > > > This inquiry of mine refers to the following obituary for Goldie Nygaard > found on "find-a-grave" (I have left out details not relevant to my > inquiry): > > > > ~~~~~ > > > > Goldie Eileen Nygaard, 88, of Sterling, died Feb. 16, 2012, in > Sterling. ..... Goldie was born Jan. 11, 1929, in a one-room sod house in > McDonald to Henry Lee and Bertha (Banister) Hallagin. ...... > > > > On Dec. 2, 1944, she married Olav Nygaard in Englewood. ...... > > > > Goldie is survived by her son, Lonell "Olie" Nygaard of Sterling and his > family, Brandi Johnson of Fort Collins and Scott Stauffer of Greeley; son, > Loyd Nygaard and wife Brenda of New River, Ariz., and their family, Heather > and husband Adam of Sun City, Ariz., and Brandon, serving in the U.S. Army > at Frankfurt, Germany; son, Nathan Nygaard and wife Shawna of Sterling and > their family, Aislinn, Josie, Kjellaug, Felicity, Jason, Jamecia and Lexie > of Sterling; sister, Rudy Waddill of Englewood; and one great-granddaughter > to be whom Goldie never got to embrace. > > > > She was preceded in death by her husband, Olav Nygaard in 1970; son, > Barry Lane Nygaard; and nine brothers and sisters. > > > > ~~~~~ > > > > I am trying to get in contact with at least one of these brothers, > children of Olav L. Nygaard (1920-1970) and Goldie Eileen nee Hallagin > (1923-2012): > > > > * Loyd (Brenda) Nygaard of New River, AZ, or > > > > * Nathan (Shawna) Nygaard of Sterling, CO > > > > but they both have secret phone numbers, and I just don't know how to > contact them. Loyd Nygaard is or has been a hotel manager, so he should be > possible to locate... > > > > Any assistance to locate these brothers would be more than welcome! > > > > Very sincerely yours, > > > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > > > > > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Dear Marian and other Listers! Thank you very much, Marian, for your efforts trying to find further information on the Holtes at Stanwood, WA. We can only regret the lack of resources in this neighborhood. However, I have now sent an inquiry to the Snohomish Historical Society hoping they may have other sources that can help us... Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 19, 2015, at 10:51 PM, Marian Hill via wrote: > Sorry, I don't find anything for Jacob or Gotfred other than what you > already know. > > It seems that it was an area without great newspaper coverage! > > Marian > > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: > >> Dear Marian and other Listers! >> >> Thank you very much, Marian, for your efforts trying to find further >> references to my Erick and Emma Hill! I regret very much that they just >> seem to "hide" extremely well, but sooner or later... >> >> I have a feeling we need to concentrate further research in the >> Everett/Stanwood area of Snohomish Co., WA. Maybe they also have a >> Historical or Genealogical Society? Or maybe land records at the Snohomish >> Co. courthouse may contain some interesting facts? >> >> By the way, Emma's father: >> >> ** Jacob HOLTE, died at Stanwood, WA May 3, 1899* >> >> Emma's brother: >> >> ** Gotfred HOLTE, died at Stanwood, WA in 1907*, but date is missing. >> >> Obituaries and or probate records for these two would probably tell us >> where Emma was "hiding" at that time!? >> >> Thanks again to all of you for the wonderful assistance you are giving me >> in order to solve this "enigma"! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Sorry, I don't find anything for Jacob or Gotfred other than what you already know. It seems that it was an area without great newspaper coverage! Marian On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: > Dear Marian and other Listers! > > Thank you very much, Marian, for your efforts trying to find further > references to my Erick and Emma Hill! I regret very much that they just > seem to "hide" extremely well, but sooner or later... > > I have a feeling we need to concentrate further research in the > Everett/Stanwood area of Snohomish Co., WA. Maybe they also have a > Historical or Genealogical Society? Or maybe land records at the Snohomish > Co. courthouse may contain some interesting facts? > > By the way, Emma's father: > > ** Jacob HOLTE, died at Stanwood, WA May 3, 1899* > > Emma's brother: > > ** Gotfred HOLTE, died at Stanwood, WA in 1907*, but date is missing. > > Obituaries and or probate records for these two would probably tell us > where Emma was "hiding" at that time!? > > Thanks again to all of you for the wonderful assistance you are giving me > in order to solve this "enigma"! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >
Dear Mark and other Listers! Thanks a million, Mark, for your willingness to help me! I can only wish you Good Luck! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 19, 2015, at 6:30 PM, Mark Erickson via wrote: > Albert Lea; Freeborn County Times; July 5, 1901; page 11 > Mrs. Anna Nelson died Tuesday afternoon at the home of her daughter, Mrs. Olson, East Wiliams street, of dropsy. The deceased was 61 years of age and had been ill several months. The funeral services will be held from the home today. > > Albert Lea; Freeborn County Times; July 10, 1901; page 10 > Mrs. Anna Nelson died last Tuesday evening at the home of her daughter, Mrs. T. W. Olson, on Wiliams street, from dropsy, at the age of 61 years. The deceased was a sister of Nels Hill. The funeral occurred Friday from the Trinity Lutheran church, Rev. O. G. Belsheim officiating. > > I’ll see if I can find Ole.
Albert Lea; Freeborn County Times; July 5, 1901; page 11 Mrs. Anna Nelson died Tuesday afternoon at the home of her daughter, Mrs. Olson, East Wiliams street, of dropsy. The deceased was 61 years of age and had been ill several months. The funeral services will be held from the home today. Albert Lea; Freeborn County Times; July 10, 1901; page 10 Mrs. Anna Nelson died last Tuesday evening at the home of her daughter, Mrs. T. W. Olson, on Wiliams street, from dropsy, at the age of 61 years. The deceased was a sister of Nels Hill. The funeral occurred Friday from the Trinity Lutheran church, Rev. O. G. Belsheim officiating. I’ll see if I can find Ole.
Dear Marian and other Listers! Thank you very much, Marian, for your efforts trying to find further references to my Erick and Emma Hill! I regret very much that they just seem to "hide" extremely well, but sooner or later... I have a feeling we need to concentrate further research in the Everett/Stanwood area of Snohomish Co., WA. Maybe they also have a Historical or Genealogical Society? Or maybe land records at the Snohomish Co. courthouse may contain some interesting facts? By the way, Emma's father: * Jacob HOLTE, died at Stanwood, WA May 3, 1899 Emma's brother: * Gotfred HOLTE, died at Stanwood, WA in 1907, but date is missing. Obituaries and or probate records for these two would probably tell us where Emma was "hiding" at that time!? Thanks again to all of you for the wonderful assistance you are giving me in order to solve this "enigma"! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 19, 2015, at 11:25 AM, Marian Hill via wrote: > I checked Newspapers.com, which does have some Everett newspapers. but none > that published after 1922, and there was nothing--for Holte, Hill, or Davey. > > I rechecked the Genealogy Bank 1900-1920 articles for Emma Hill in Seattle > and none were your Emma. > > Marian > > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 12:10 AM, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> > wrote: > >> Dear Marian and other Listers! >> >> Thank you very much for your comment on Emma Holte Hill Davey! >> >> I was afraid there wouldn't be much to be found in the Seattle, WA paper >> in regard to Emma Davey, and am I right to believe, the Genealogy Bank >> doesn't include the smaller newspapers from Stanwood or Everett? >> >> By the way, Marian, you mention that you have tried looking for Emma under >> the Holte and Davey last names, but did you try under the name Emma HILL? >> >> The city directories from Seattle, WA from the early 1900's prior to 1918 >> referred to by ancestry.com include several Emma Hills, and we have of >> course no way of keeping them from eachother as long as they don't say like >> "Emma HILL (wid. Erick)", but the articles themselves might have some >> information connecting them to "our" Emma? >> >> I should add that a couple of the Everett, WA city directories from >> 1903-1907 refer to an "Emma HILL (wid. James)", who appears to be a Mrs. >> Emma Hill from the 1900 Everett, WA census born in WI Dec. of 1876 with >> parents came from MI and VT. Maybe her husband was James, but I see no >> mention of him! >> >> I feel we are so close to finding the answer to what happened to Erick and >> where Emma was at the time, and yet they sure hide extremely well!! There >> just has to be some write-up about this couple somewhere!? >> >> Thanks again for your wonderful assistance in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On May 18, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Marian Hill via wrote: >> >> I have a Genealogy Bank subscription, but I'm not finding much. >> >> There is a simple death notice in the Seattle Daily Times for March 14, >> 1931 >> >> " >> Davey, Emma - 1600 Terry Ave., 37 - March 12" >> >> There are some other references to an Emma Davey, but they are from 1939, >> 1943, and 1949--too late for your Emma. >> >> There are also some articles about women named Emma Holte, but none are the >> right Emma. >> >> Marian >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> >> wrote: >> >> Dear Mark and other Listers! >> >> >> Thank you very much, Mark, for your efforts on my behalf. I am so >> >> grateful, but I guess we can only regret that Portland newspapers are so >> >> hard to find... >> >> >> Now, you mention finding references to his wife Emma Hill in "Genealogy >> >> Bank" in the Washington newspapers. Do we have any listers who subscribe >> >> to that and who may be willing to help me? I would be so happy and for >> >> ever indebted... >> >> >> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >> >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> >> On May 18, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Mark Erickson via wrote: >> >> >> I looked for this man today, but noticed that there are very limited >> >> Portland newspapers for the year he died. I’m not sure why. There are >> >> plenty of other Oregon papers, but Portland seems to be missing 1894. Not >> >> just online, but also in microfilms. I haven’t done extensive research into >> >> the papers available for that date in Portland, but I did find him in the >> >> Oregon archives online. It says he died 2 April 1894, City of Portland. >> >> >> His wife seems to show up in GenealogyBank in the Washington newspapers, >> >> but I don’t have a subscription to that. >> >> >> -Mark >> >>
Dear Elise and other Listers! This evening (my time) I have been in contact with the Jefferson County Genealogical Society hoping they might be able to help me find an obituary for Helen Mae Melheim. I must have been on the phone about an hour, and the lady in Pt. Townsend checked out all kinds of records, but finally had to conclude the following: * No obituary has been published in Jefferson Co., WA for Helen Mae Melheim. * Her cremains were buried next to her mother in the Brinnon cemetery. * In fact we can find no proof that Helen Mae actually died in Jefferson Co., WA, and she's NOT in the SSDI! * Helen Mae may indeed have died just about anywhere, and her cremains were brought back for burial! I believe next step will be to trace siblings of Helen Mae's. If we're lucky, we find a nephew or a niece of hers, maybe thru her brother: ** Ray HARRISON, born May 14, 1917, died in Seattle, WA Jan. of 1981. Maybe his obituary can be found on GenealogyBank? If his doesn't work, I will try Lewis Co., WA next... Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 19, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Elise Brenner via wrote: > http://jtenlen.drizzlehosting.com/walewis/resources.html Here is a link to > Lewis County, WA information, I hope there is something there for you. > > On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> Dear Mark and other Listers! >> >> Thank you very much, Mark, for sending me off-list William Kenneth >> Bartley's obituary, which, as I read it, makes it quite clear he was NOT >> the William Bartley who married Helen Mae Harrison! >> >> So, I went back to my working "booth" and discovered that "our" William >> Bartley had REVE for a middle name, and I find he was a native of Sulphur >> Creek, Lewis Co., WA where he lived with Helen Mae in 1940. He was born >> there on Nov. 27, 1910 as the son of George W. and Evelyn Bartley, both >> natives of KY! >> >> I don't find a death record for this William Bartley, but this fact >> doesn't change our conclusion as far as Helen Mae's identity is concerned; >> however, it does mean we still need Helen Mae's obituary after all! So, >> where can it be found?? >> >> Thanks again for your wonderful assistance in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On May 19, 2015, at 4:57 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >> >>> Dear Jerrald, Greg and other Listers! >>> >>> Thank you very much for your latest messages in regard to Helen Bartley >> Melheim and her background! >>> >>> I had also seen that Helen Bartley from Virginia referred to by Jerrald, >> but didn't feel quite comfortable with her, so I was indeed happy when you, >> Greg, introduced me to Helen Mae Harrison Bartley from the 1940 census for >> Lewis Co., WA! And I have found proof on ancestry.com she's the one! >>> >>> But first I find that William Kenneth Bartley, born in WA June 20, 1910, >> died at Pt. Townsend, Jefferson Co., WA Feb. 2, 1973. He is buried in the >> Laurel Grove cemetery at Pt. Townsend, and find-a-grave refers to his >> obituary as follows: >>> >>> "Bartley William Kenneth 2/2/1973 2/8/1973 Newsp - Col 4 - can be >> obtained through Jefferson Co., Hist. Soc." >>> >>> He appears to be buried alone, i.e. no wife is there next to him. Maybe >> his obituary would also be available online somewhere? >>> >>> Then I tried Helen Mae Harrison, born in Idaho in 1919, on ancestry.com, >> and here comes up a "Bradley Ann Brown (Barrows) family tree giving Helen >> Mae's birth and death dates identical to "our" Helen Mae Melheim!! And it >> appears that she was in 1930 residing with her mother and her 2nd husband >> Jack Poor at Brinnon, Jefferson Co., WA, thus explaining her connection to >> that place! >>> >>> What now remains to find out, or to verify, are: >>> >>> * Helen Mae's exact place of birth (Blaine Co., ID?)? >>> >>> * Helen Mae's exact place of death (Brinnon, WA?)? >>> >>> * How many sons/daughters did Helen Mae have by her 1st husband William >> Bartley? >>> >>> * Years of Helen Mae divorces? (may be hard to find...) >>> >>> Thanks again for your wonderful assistance with this "enigma" which now >> appears to be ALMOST solved! >>> >>> Very sincerely yours, >>> >>> Lars E. Oyane >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> On May 18, 2015, at 8:57 PM, Gregory Holter via wrote: >>> >>>> This COULD be the correct Helen in the 1920 census, in Muldoon, Blaine >> County, Idaho. She is shown as Helen M Harrison and is 11/12 years old in >> 19 January 1920 which would match her 10 February 1919 birthdate. But hard >> to tell. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> | Name: | Helen M Harrison | >>>> | Event Type: | Census | >>>> | Event Year: | 1920 | >>>> | Event Place: | Muldoon, Blaine, Idaho, United States | >>>> | Gender: | Female | >>>> | Age: | 0 | >>>> | Marital Status: | Single | >>>> | Race: | White | >>>> | Race (Original): | White | >>>> | Relationship to Head of Household: | Daughter | >>>> | Relationship to Head of Household (Original): | Daughter | >>>> | Birth Year (Estimated): | 1920 | >>>> | Birthplace: | Idaho | >>>> | Father's Birthplace: | Missouri | >>>> | Mother's Birthplace: | Wisconsin | >>>> >>>> >>>> | Household | Role | Gender | Age | Birthplace | >>>> | John R Harrison | Head | M | 38 | Missouri | >>>> | Lily M Harrison | Wife | F | 37 | Wisconsin | >>>> | Keneth D Harrison | Son | M | 8 | Washington | >>>> | Ray E Harrison | Son | M | 2 | Washington | >>>> | Helen M Harrison | Daughter | F | 0 | Idaho | >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Gregory Holter via <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>> To: Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no>; "norway@rootsweb.com" < >> norway@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 5:33 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [NOR] 2nd attempt: Obituary assistance Brinnon, WA - >> Newspaper assistance Stevenson, WA, please? >>>> >>>> Lars, >>>> >>>> After searching for a time for a Helen Mae Bartley born in February >> 1919 in the US censuses, I was drawing a blank. Most of the possibilities >> were born back in the eastern United States, which didn't really make sense >> to me. But then I noticed that in the 1940 census in the Sulphur Creek >> Election District in Lewis County, Washington, there is a Mae Bartley born >> 1919 married to a Bill Bartley. It says that she was born in Idaho. So >> maybe she was married previously to her marriage with Chester Melheim. >>>> >>>> Then I went searching for Bill Bartley and came up with a marriage >> record on 1 May 1937 in Pacific County, Washington, between a William Reve >> Bartley and a Helen May Harrison. The marriage record does not include >> birth dates or locations. >>>> >>>> So I wonder if this might be your Helen Mae Bartley. All of these >> events occurred in western Washington. But this is really circumstantial >> evidence, without some additional information. >>>> >>>> I checked and there are several Helen Bartleys in the 1930 census born >> in Idaho, but that census does not give birth month and year so I don't >> know how to pick her out from the possibilities easily. >>>> >>>> Greg Holter >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> To: norway@rootsweb.com >>>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 4:50 PM >>>> Subject: [NOR] 2nd attempt: Obituary assistance Brinnon, WA - Newspaper >> assistance Stevenson, WA, please? >>>> >>>> Dear Listers, >>>> >>>> This inquiry was posted about three months ago together with two >> inquiries for obituaries from Puyallup, WA. Cliff helped me with the ones >> from Puyallup, WA, but this one from Brinnon, WA is still unsolved: >>>> >>>> Helen Mae MELHEIM, nee Bartley >>>> born Feb. 10, 1919 - unknown where! >>>> died Feb. 19, 1984 - her cremains were buried in the Brinnon cemetery >> in Jefferson Co., WA >>>> >>>> She married Chester Earl Melheim (1925-2007) at Stevenson, WA Sep. 20, >> 1954, but they divorced within 10 years! >>>> >>>> I have not been able to find any funeral homes in Brinnon, WA, and my >> contact with nearby funeral homes in Bremerton, WA and other cities in >> Kitsap Co., WA has been to no avail. >>>> >>>> What I try to find out, is primarily: >>>> >>>> * The exact place of Helen's BIRTH? >>>> >>>> * The exact place of Helen's DEATH? >>>> >>>> * Year of their DIVORCE? >>>> >>>> This information would presumably be included in an OBITUARY for her, >> if one can be found? Or maybe their DIVORCE is referred in local >> newspapers? >>>> >>>> Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane
Dear Listers! Another "brick wall" has appeared in Albert Lea, MN. Can someone please help me tear it down? ~~~~~ Ole Nilsson Walager, born in Hafslo parish, Luster Co., Norway Dec. 3, 1836, son of Nels Solfestson and Anna Larsdotter, was married in Hafslo June 23, 1863 to Anna Nilsdotter (Halseteigen), born in Hafslo Apr. 16, 1840. One daughter Kirstina (Christine) was born in Hafslo Aug. 29, 1863, and in 1865 the family emigrated. 1870 census: Ole and Anna Nelson in Albert Lea, Freeborn Co., MN 1875 census: Ole and Anna Nelson in Nunda township, Freeborn Co., MN 1880 census: Ole W. and Anna Nelson in Nunda township, Freeborn Co., MN 1885 census: Ole and Anna Nelson in Albert Lea, Freeborn Co., MN 1895 Ole Nelson Walager returned to Albert Lea, Freeborn Co., MN after a visit to Norway 1895 census: Ole and Anna Nelson in Albert Lea, Freeborn Co., MN 1900 census: Anna Nelson in Albert Lea, Freeborn Co., MN - residing with daughter Christine and son-in-law Tom Olson - Anna said to be "married", but no sign of her husband. Anna Nelson died in Albert Lea, Freeborn Co., MN July 2, 1901 - "widowed" There are several Ole Nelsons in Freeborn Co., MN at that time, but I have "sorted them all out", and there is definitely NO death record for "our" Ole Nelson in Freeborn Co., MN! My question: WHAT BECAME OF OLE NELSON? The only "good" candidate I have come up with so far, is this gentleman, living 1910 with the Lars Olson Opsata family in Bemidji, Betrami Co., MN: * Ole N. NELSON, 75, Nor Nor Nor, widowed, em. 1866 Incidentally there was also an Ole N. Nelson in Bemidji, Beltrami Co., MN in 1920, born 1840, but married. This is a different Ole, since in 1910 the latter Ole lived in Hubbard Co., MN with his wife and children! And when the latter Ole died at Bemidji, MN July 12, 1922, his birthdate was given as Mar. 18, 1840 - so definitely a different Ole! Any suggestions regarding the destiny of "my" Ole Nelson will be most welcome! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane