You should be able to find an appropriate adapter at a local electronics store.  I have done so in the past (I can never seem to find the one I bought for a previous trip).    Norway uses pretty standard European 220V plugs. Enjoy the trip! Greg Holter From: John Ferman via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: Rootsweb Norway <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 7:52 PM Subject: [NOR] Norway's Electricity My wife will be in Norway next month and will want to charge her iPad and iPhone. What is Norway's electrical mains voltage and what do the plug-in receptacles look like - maybe a picture of one. Sent from my iPad John Ferman Minneapolis, MN Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You can actually contact the Murphy Law Library Special Collections section, and they will search for the probate records, copy them, and mail them for a rather reasonable fee. http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives;view=reslist;subview=standard;didno=uw-whs-vern0024 http://www.uwlax.edu/MurphyLibrary/Special-Collections/About-special-collections/ That may be an option if there is no one locally willing to search for them for you. You're actually quite lucky. Almost all counties in WI have disposed of all their historic criminal and civil case files. According to WI law, counties only have to retain criminal cases 75 years, and civil cases (including probate, divorce and adoption cases) only 35 years. When the time limit is up, they are free to destroy them, which most counties have elected to do. > Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 17:30:19 -0500 > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NOR] Research assistance at the Vernon County, WI probate court in Viroqua, WI, please? > From: norway@rootsweb.com > > Dear Listers! > > In order to find further leads to solve my problem tracing the Charles and Christine Shaw family, I am searching for someone who is willing to spend an hour or two at the Vernon County, WI Probate court in Viroqua, WI researching the probate file for Christine's father (or parents): > > Einer J. Overboe, died in Sterling township, Vernon Co., WI Oct. 17, 1925. > > His wife Margaret Overboe had died in Vernon Co., WI May 28, 1919, but the following were their children: > > 1. Son Thomas Overboe of Richland Co., ND > > 2. Daughter Mary Overboe Grove of Goodhue Co., MN, died in 1914 leaving several children > > 3. Daughter Anna Margaret "Margaret" Overboe Quam of Yellow Grass, SK > > 4. Daughter Karen Kirstine "Christine" Overbnoe SHAW of ?? - deceased leaving two children Margaret and Donald > > 5. Daughter Ingeborg "Emma" Overboe Runice of Crawford Co., WI > > 6. Son Peter Overboe on the home farm in Sterling township, Vernon Co., WI - died single Dec. 12, 1949 > > 7. Son Ole Overboe also on the home farm in Sterling township, Vernon Co., WI > > During one of my research trips to the United States, possibly in 1982, I viewed the probate file in question. Karen Kirstine "Christine" SHAW's children's whereabouts were unknown when the probate was started, but my time was very limited, so I was unable to see whether the probate court was ever able to locate them during the later court proceedings! > > And I never studied the probate record for Peter Overboe who died single in 1949. The Shaw children would have been heirs of Peter's as well! > > I know this is a lot to ask from the NORWAY listers, but if someone lives not too far away from Viroqua, WI, I would indeed appreciate your help, which will make me indebted to you forever! > > Thanks a million! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When we took an electrical appliance to Norway for my niece, I got an adaptor at Radio Shack. It said right on the box which country it would work in. Seems like they had two round prongs, and I'd guess it was 220 volt................ -----Original Message----- From: John Ferman via Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 9:52 PM To: Rootsweb Norway Subject: [NOR] Norway's Electricity My wife will be in Norway next month and will want to charge her iPad and iPhone. What is Norway's electrical mains voltage and what do the plug-in receptacles look like - maybe a picture of one. Sent from my iPad John Ferman Minneapolis, MN Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

My wife will be in Norway next month and will want to charge her iPad and iPhone. What is Norway's electrical mains voltage and what do the plug-in receptacles look like - maybe a picture of one. Sent from my iPad John Ferman Minneapolis, MN

Thank you very much Jostein and Ingrid! Well, problem solved, thanks to you! Kind regards Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Jostein Austrheim via Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:40 PM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Help reading a record It is: "død på det civile Sygehus", it was also a miletary hospital at the same time in Kr.sand. Jostein A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ingrid Kjønnøy via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: "'nukilik'" <nukilik@xs4all.nl>; <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [NOR] Help reading a record I think Lisbeth is right, it says "død på ..... Sygehus" - died at .... Hospital. The missing word is a name, I believe. It does not say anything about cause of death. Ingrid -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: norway-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norway-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne av nukilik via Sendt: 28. mai 2015 16:20 Til: Lisbeth Dyrnes; norwaylist Emne: Re: [NOR] Help reading a record Thank you Lisbeth. I thought it could be "varicella", but I am not sure at all. There was a special hospital in Kristiansand for cholera, but I do not think this is the word. Maybe other infectious diseases also came there???? Thanks anyhow Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Lisbeth Dyrnes Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:54 PM To: nukilik ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Help reading a record ...død paa det ? Sygehuuset. I can`t figure out the word before Sygehusset. Lisbeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "nukilik via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: "norwaylist" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:59 PM Subject: [NOR] Help reading a record Hello Listers, Left page: 1818: Kristiansand: Can somebody help me read the cause of death of Lars Mogensen died 29 juni, begr 1 july? Lars Mogensen 69 aar, gift, matros fra fynn, död paa..................... Kildeinformasjon: Vest-Agder fylke, Kristiansand, Ministerialbok nr. A 6 (1793-1818), Døde og begravede 1818, side 70. Permanent sidelenke: <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9563&idx_id=9563&uid=ny&i dx_side=-72> Permanent bildelenke: <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070607320740.jpg> Thank you very much Reina Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is: "død på det civile Sygehus", it was also a miletary hospital at the same time in Kr.sand. Jostein A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ingrid Kjønnøy via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: "'nukilik'" <nukilik@xs4all.nl>; <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [NOR] Help reading a record I think Lisbeth is right, it says "død på ..... Sygehus" - died at .... Hospital. The missing word is a name, I believe. It does not say anything about cause of death. Ingrid -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: norway-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norway-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne av nukilik via Sendt: 28. mai 2015 16:20 Til: Lisbeth Dyrnes; norwaylist Emne: Re: [NOR] Help reading a record Thank you Lisbeth. I thought it could be "varicella", but I am not sure at all. There was a special hospital in Kristiansand for cholera, but I do not think this is the word. Maybe other infectious diseases also came there???? Thanks anyhow Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Lisbeth Dyrnes Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:54 PM To: nukilik ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Help reading a record ...død paa det ? Sygehuuset. I can`t figure out the word before Sygehusset. Lisbeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "nukilik via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: "norwaylist" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:59 PM Subject: [NOR] Help reading a record Hello Listers, Left page: 1818: Kristiansand: Can somebody help me read the cause of death of Lars Mogensen died 29 juni, begr 1 july? Lars Mogensen 69 aar, gift, matros fra fynn, död paa..................... Kildeinformasjon: Vest-Agder fylke, Kristiansand, Ministerialbok nr. A 6 (1793-1818), Døde og begravede 1818, side 70. Permanent sidelenke: <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9563&idx_id=9563&uid=ny&i dx_side=-72> Permanent bildelenke: <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070607320740.jpg> Thank you very much Reina Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway

I think Lisbeth is right, it says "død på ..... Sygehus" - died at .... Hospital. The missing word is a name, I believe. It does not say anything about cause of death. Ingrid -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: norway-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norway-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne av nukilik via Sendt: 28. mai 2015 16:20 Til: Lisbeth Dyrnes; norwaylist Emne: Re: [NOR] Help reading a record Thank you Lisbeth. I thought it could be "varicella", but I am not sure at all. There was a special hospital in Kristiansand for cholera, but I do not think this is the word. Maybe other infectious diseases also came there???? Thanks anyhow Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Lisbeth Dyrnes Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:54 PM To: nukilik ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Help reading a record ...død paa det ? Sygehuuset. I can`t figure out the word before Sygehusset. Lisbeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "nukilik via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: "norwaylist" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:59 PM Subject: [NOR] Help reading a record Hello Listers, Left page: 1818: Kristiansand: Can somebody help me read the cause of death of Lars Mogensen died 29 juni, begr 1 july? Lars Mogensen 69 aar, gift, matros fra fynn, död paa..................... Kildeinformasjon: Vest-Agder fylke, Kristiansand, Ministerialbok nr. A 6 (1793-1818), Døde og begravede 1818, side 70. Permanent sidelenke: <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9563&idx_id=9563&uid=ny&i dx_side=-72> Permanent bildelenke: <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070607320740.jpg> Thank you very much Reina Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers! In order to find further leads to solve my problem tracing the Charles and Christine Shaw family, I am searching for someone who is willing to spend an hour or two at the Vernon County, WI Probate court in Viroqua, WI researching the probate file for Christine's father (or parents): Einer J. Overboe, died in Sterling township, Vernon Co., WI Oct. 17, 1925. His wife Margaret Overboe had died in Vernon Co., WI May 28, 1919, but the following were their children: 1. Son Thomas Overboe of Richland Co., ND 2. Daughter Mary Overboe Grove of Goodhue Co., MN, died in 1914 leaving several children 3. Daughter Anna Margaret "Margaret" Overboe Quam of Yellow Grass, SK 4. Daughter Karen Kirstine "Christine" Overbnoe SHAW of ?? - deceased leaving two children Margaret and Donald 5. Daughter Ingeborg "Emma" Overboe Runice of Crawford Co., WI 6. Son Peter Overboe on the home farm in Sterling township, Vernon Co., WI - died single Dec. 12, 1949 7. Son Ole Overboe also on the home farm in Sterling township, Vernon Co., WI During one of my research trips to the United States, possibly in 1982, I viewed the probate file in question. Karen Kirstine "Christine" SHAW's children's whereabouts were unknown when the probate was started, but my time was very limited, so I was unable to see whether the probate court was ever able to locate them during the later court proceedings! And I never studied the probate record for Peter Overboe who died single in 1949. The Shaw children would have been heirs of Peter's as well! I know this is a lot to ask from the NORWAY listers, but if someone lives not too far away from Viroqua, WI, I would indeed appreciate your help, which will make me indebted to you forever! Thanks a million! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Ole and Toivo find three grenades, and they decide to take them to a police station. Ole asked: "Vhat if vun explodes before ve get dere?" Toivo replied, "Ve'll lie and say ve only found tew." Sent from my iPad John Ferman Minneapolis, MN

Need help with the church date listed in the transcribed record for the baptism. As you know, I never understand them. I get that "Epiph" is Epiphany, but there are certainly no epiphanies for me with ecclesiastical dates!!! The date of birth I have from the transcription, but I don't know what the date of baptism is. Mange Tusen Takk in advance for the baptism date in a recognizable format. :-) Stephen/Stephan Nielsen, son of Niels Olsen & Berit Stephensdatter. The modern spelling of the farm name is Skjelstad and the name shows up often in my family's records; I found the location of the farm on the map a long time ago. In adulthood, Stephen married and moved to Forsell (same sogn, prestegjeld). Microfilm image, sixth record down, left page: Source information: Nord-Trøndelag county, Inderøy, Parish register (official) nr. 730A01 (1733-1764), Birth and baptism records 1756, page 122. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16417&idx_id=16417&uid=ny&idx_side=-123 Transcription: http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=dp17291733&gardpostnr=1470&personpostnr=4395&merk=4395#ovre År Døypt 1470 1756 4 p Epiph Rolle Førenamn Etternamn Kjønn Fødd dato Ekte/uekte 4395 Barn Stephan Skielstad m 30.1.e e 4396 Far Niels Olsen paa Skielstad 4397 Mor Beritte Stephans datter Digitalarkivet 2015. Rettar til databasen: Hallvard Bragstad. Versjon frå 6/30/2004. Talet på oppslag: 0 (0 i dag) WebCens © Jan Oldervoll 1998-2015 Beste, Bev

Hi, There are several Grauvogls living in Sauk City, Wisconsin. One is a meat market, and I called them today.  Was only able to leave a message, but I'm hopeful I'll get a call back and then get an email address for you to communicate directly.  Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Bowen via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: "Lars E. Oyane" <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no>, "norway" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 4:05:06 PM Subject: Re: [NOR] Grauvogl obituaries from Sauk Co., WI 1919 and 1920 The 1910 census shows Joseph and Mary Grauvogl living with a son Otto in Franklin Township, Sauk County, Wisconsin.  Also in the household is a son Alva (may have been Alois).  It says that Mary has had 12 children, all living.  You'd think there would be descendants.  A search on familysearch.org for Maria Gottfried, residence Sauk, Wisconsin, turned up marriages with her as mother of the groom or bride for Joseph Grauvogl in 1907, Anna Grauvogl to John Emmer in 1895, Maria Grauvogl to Hubert Niessbaum in 1906.  Maybe following one of these families might lead to a descendant who knows something. There was a reporter for the Sioux Falls, SD Argus Leaderin the 1990s named Ann Grauvogl.  That was the name that came up most often in a search on genealogybank.com.  I have no idea if she is related. Annette On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:27 AM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Dear Listers! > > Happy Memorial Day! > > I am having some difficulties tracing the German origin of a Luster Co., > Norway in-law in Sauk Co., WI and hope that a newspaper obituary or other > newspaper notices from Sauk Co., WI can be found to tell me WHERE in > Germany these people emigrated from: > > Franziska "Frances" Grauvogl Hunt was born in Germany Nov. 18, 1876 (died > Feb. 16, 1961 Richland Center/Spring Green, WI) as the daughter of: > > Joseph GRAUVOGL, born in Bavaria, Germany July 17, 1849, died in Sauk Co., > WI in 1919 > > Maria "Mary" GRAUVOGL (nee Gottfried), born in Bavaria, Germany Aug. of > 1852, died in Sauk Co., WI in 1920 > > Unfortunately, I have no death dates for Joseph and Mary, but hopefully > the last name is special enough to be noted in a scanned newspaper... > > Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Lisbeth. I thought it could be "varicella", but I am not sure at all. There was a special hospital in Kristiansand for cholera, but I do not think this is the word. Maybe other infectious diseases also came there???? Thanks anyhow Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Lisbeth Dyrnes Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:54 PM To: nukilik ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Help reading a record ...død paa det ? Sygehuuset. I can`t figure out the word before Sygehusset. Lisbeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "nukilik via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: "norwaylist" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:59 PM Subject: [NOR] Help reading a record Hello Listers, Left page: 1818: Kristiansand: Can somebody help me read the cause of death of Lars Mogensen died 29 juni, begr 1 july? Lars Mogensen 69 aar, gift, matros fra fynn, död paa..................... Kildeinformasjon: Vest-Agder fylke, Kristiansand, Ministerialbok nr. A 6 (1793-1818), Døde og begravede 1818, side 70. Permanent sidelenke: <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9563&idx_id=9563&uid=ny&idx_side=-72> Permanent bildelenke: <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070607320740.jpg> Thank you very much Reina Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

...død paa det ? Sygehuuset. I can`t figure out the word before Sygehusset. Lisbeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "nukilik via" <norway@rootsweb.com> To: "norwaylist" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:59 PM Subject: [NOR] Help reading a record Hello Listers, Left page: 1818: Kristiansand: Can somebody help me read the cause of death of Lars Mogensen died 29 juni, begr 1 july? Lars Mogensen 69 aar, gift, matros fra fynn, död paa..................... Kildeinformasjon: Vest-Agder fylke, Kristiansand, Ministerialbok nr. A 6 (1793-1818), Døde og begravede 1818, side 70. Permanent sidelenke: <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9563&idx_id=9563&uid=ny&idx_side=-72> Permanent bildelenke: <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070607320740.jpg> Thank you very much Reina Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers, Left page: 1818: Kristiansand: Can somebody help me read the cause of death of Lars Mogensen died 29 juni, begr 1 july? Lars Mogensen 69 aar, gift, matros fra fynn, död paa..................... Kildeinformasjon: Vest-Agder fylke, Kristiansand, Ministerialbok nr. A 6 (1793-1818), Døde og begravede 1818, side 70. Permanent sidelenke: <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9563&idx_id=9563&uid=ny&idx_side=-72> Permanent bildelenke: <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070607320740.jpg> Thank you very much Reina

Hello, folks...I have a bit of Norwegian below that needs better translation than Google Translate and I can give it! If you have a moment, would someone please give me an English translation? (This quote comes from Gravem, the "old homestead" of my gggrandfather--I can see why he decided to come to America!) Hos Ingebrigt Løken, som var født ca. 40 år etter at denne synsforretning var ført i pennen, heter det: Ifølge et gammelt sagn skal alle gårdens huse være blitt nedslått og dekket av et steinskred, så at intet mere ble tilsyne hverken av hus, folk eller kreaturer. Dessuten har den gård som ligger noe fra de andre enda en gang vært nedslått av steinsprang, antakelig først i det 17 århundre (det skulle altså være skjedd på begynnelsen av 1600-tallet).... Det hentydes også til Gravemsora i en åstedsforretning av 13 juni 1770. Men her sies bare at det felt steinskredet i sin tid rammet har en vidde på 50 mål og er oppfylt av urørlige steinblokker, hvor det før har vært åker og eng. Thank you!Nancy

Dear Thelma, The first thing you must do, is to save the Permanent Page Link for the website where you find the record. Highlight and copy and paste all three information lines. Where did you find this? Ingrid -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: norway-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:norway-bounces@rootsweb.com] På vegne av Thelma Hartman via Sendt: 25. mai 2015 19:38 Til: norway@rootsweb.com Emne: [NOR] Translation help please Hello I have some records that I am trying to translate to English using google translate. Let’s just say that the results are puzzling in places. Here is the first record that I am working on; http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051014010760.jpg Here is my translation attempt: No. 22 Dods-Datum (Date of Death); August 11th, Naar Begravet (When Buried); August 16th, soil foestel; August 16th Den Dodes fulde Navn og borgerlige Stilling (Noeringsweri) med Tilfoiende for Voxnes Vedkommende of Oplysning, am ban (hun) var ugifl, gifl, Enkemand (Enke) eller fraskill; (The deceased's full name and Civil Occupation (Noeringsvei) with additional for Voxnes He of information, am ban (she) was ugifl, gifl, Widower (widow) or fraskill) : Joinery and Husceir Emanuel Eriksen, Gifl By Gifle wives; The man, in Born; Father's Name and Position Fodsels, years: born 1832 Month / Day (for children indfl 5 years assemble Voernepligtig) Fode Location and samples liable Male Creator also: When and where confirmed: Sweden Bopoel: Ilebrekke Stated Dodsaarsug: Have A doctor, veeret Rikaldt during the deceased sidsle disease: Yes Is Dodsfaldeet notified of He for skifterelten (lensnumden): Yes remarks; Thanks for any help Thelma Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Earl, Mark, Bev and other Listers! Thank you very much for your interesting messages in regard to the Shaw family, some of which came off-list. I am so touched and impressed to see how you all try to help me, and I have studied the various "candidates" as well as I can. * The pallbearer Charles Shaw from Helena, MT 1939 would, in my opinion, be a little old to be a pallbearer, don't you think? He was about 84 at the time... * Mrs. Margaret Shaw, who died at Anaconda, MT in 1918, whom you Mark told me about, was 34 years old, so I guess she is too old to be "our" Margaret..., and she was obviously married to someone named Shaw... * Charles Shaw, the brakeman who was killed in the train accident in the fall of 1900, came from Salida, CO, and the 1900 census shows him in Salida, CO as an unmarried boy of 20 years of age still residing at home with his parents, so he cannot be the one either... * Sam O. Shaw of Butte, MT who died in 1930 and was survived by brother Charles Shaw in Canada, was apparently from a different family. Here is Sam's marriage record: Name: Samuel O Shaw Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 22 Jan 1909 Event Place: Missoula, , Montana Age: 44 Birth Year (Estimated): 1865 Father's Name: Samuel H Shaw Mother's Name: Emma C Gallup Spouse's Name: Sadie F Ayers Spouse's Age: 32 Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1877 Spouse's Father's Name: Ailin Ayers Spouse's Mother's Name: Almira Miner So I guess we are still at "point 0".... This family is sure hiding well! Could it be that Charles did return to Canada after all? Thanks again for all of your wonderful assistance in his matter! I keep crossing my fingers and hope... Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 27, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Mark Erickson via wrote: > I just noticed that you said Charles Shaw might have ben a railroad fireman. These articles sound like a good match. > > Idaho Statesman; 21 Nov. 1900; page 5 > FATAL WRECKS OCCUR IN COLORADO > Denver, Colo., Nov. 20 - Two fatal wrecks occurred on the Denver & Rio Grande railway this morning. Freight train No. 70, eastbound, on the narrow gauge, became unmanageable on a steep grade and near Gray’s station the engine jumped the track and 12 cars piled on top of it. Brakeman Charles Shaw was instantly killed. Fireman Albert Brasswell is still under the wreckage and supposed to be dead. > > San Francisco used FIVE headlines on the front page for their story. > San Francisco Call; Nov 21, 1900; page 1 > CARS DASH DOWN THE MOUNTAIN > Thrilling Disasters in Which Three Men Meet Death. > From the Summit of Marshall Pass Runaway Train Descends. > A FEARFUL VELOCITY ATTAINED > Engineer, Fireman and Other Hands Remain at Their Posts Until the Accident Occurs. > Denver, Colo., Nov. 20 - Three men were killed, three probably fatally injured and one other more or less injured in two wrecks on the Denver and Rio Grande Railroad between 1 o’clock and 1:30 this morning. The dead: > CHARLES SHAW, Salida, brakeman > …It goes on. Long article. On May 27, 2015, at 2:01 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Doris, Greg, Earl and other Listers! > > Thank you very much to all of you for your encouraging messages in regard to my SHAW problem! This family has been one of the most frustrating ones I have ever been researching, but I have managed to trace families before which probate courts, whether it be in Norway (one case from the 1910's - later also tried by the Salvation Army!) or in Yankton Co., SD (one case from the 1920's which I solved in part), never did, so I haven't given up quite yet. My philosophy is fairly simple: These people just have to be out there somewhere - we only have to look at "the right place"! > > I have now written to the Shoshone Co., ID GenWeb Site, i.e. I addressed my inquiry to the main site as well as to the two volunteers listed. My messages to the volunteers immediately bounced back to me as "undeliverable", but hopefully someone at the main site will receive it - and attend to it! > > I am unable to provide further details about these family members, but we must presume that Karen Kirstine "Christine" died prior to 1900 (since she is nowhere to be found), and I guess the children, born between 1889 and 1892(?), MAY have been raised at some orphanage, or they may have moved with their father back to Canada? I just don't know. Your guesses are just as good as mine! > > I did at one time "play" with the thought Margaret Shaw had been married in Idaho and found the following "possibilities": > > * Maggie SHAW - married Jan. 18, 1914 in Adams Co., ID to Amos SHAW > > * Margrette L. SHAW - married Dec. 3, 1927 in Valley Co., ID to Clifford Marion DOTSON > > The latter may be somewhat too young, but how about the former? This must be her in the 1930 census for Oroville township, Butte Co., CA: > > BRAY, Joseph T 37 OR IN OR fruit farm foreman > BRAY, Margaret C 35 ID IA IA wife > SHAW, Elitha G 15 ID IA ID stepdaughter > SHAW, Amos O 9 ID ID ID stepson > > And here she is in the 1920 census from Tamarack township, Adams Co., ID: > > SHAW, A. G. 25 IA US US sawmill laborer > SHAW, Margaret 26 ID US US wife > SHAW, Aletha 4 11/12 ID IA ID daughter > SHAW, Stella 3 1/12 ID IA ID daughter > > Here is her birth record, which reveals she's NOT he one we want: > > Name: Margarete Catherine Shaw > Birth Date: 20 Sep 1893 > Birth Place: Parma, Canyon, Idaho, USA > Father Name: Ben Shaw > Father Age: 27 > Father Birth Place: Iowa > Mother Name: Catherine Rebecca Bacus > Mother Age: 21 > Mother Birth Place: Missouri > > So, back to square #one again... > > Thanks again to all of you for your interest and great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On May 27, 2015, at 12:37 AM, Earl Sande via wrote: > >> Place like Yale were reported in the Victoria Colonist. I did a check >> at the University of British Columbia index - includes transcribed >> papers only, but no Charles J. Shaw. >> >> If you want to check for yourself try search for Victoria Colonist >> Indexes, then to UBC site. >> >> Earl >> > > On May 26, 2015, at 10:27 PM, Gregory Holter via wrote: > >> Lars, >> >> Wallace, Idaho, is the Shoshone County seat, so the county may have some relevant records. (I will be passing through Wallace a couple times in June, going back to North Dakota and returning later, but I don't believe I will be there at the right time of day or the right day of the week to be able to do anything at the county courthouse.) >> >> Also, USGenWeb lists some lookup volunteers for Shoshone County resources, although the website looks like it may be totally out of date. And the Shoshone County Genealogical and Historical Society is located in Kellogg, Idaho and may be other resources. >> >> Wallace had a miner's strike in 1892 in which a number of lives were lost. They also had a huge fire in 1910. These events may well hinder the ability to track these people there. >> >> And just for fun, for those who may not be aware, Wallace is the self-proclaimed center of the universe. The location marker is in the middle of a street intersection in downtown Wallace. You can check that out on Wikipedia. >> >> Greg Holter > > > >> On 26/05/2015 7:12 PM, Doris Waggoner via wrote: >>> Lars, >>> >>> Not to be too discouraging, but in the 1880s, all those places--Helena MT, >>> Wallace ID, and Yale and Hope BC, were very much frontier towns. Helena >>> and Wallace were mining towns until the mid 20th c. and may have had >>> newspapers but it's doubtful they kept vital records. I had a friend who >>> lived in Hope BC in the early 20th c. and even then it was a wide spot in >>> the road so probably didn't even have a newspaper. Even in 2000, Helena >>> had a population of 26,000; Wallace, 960; Hope, 6,200; and Yale,171. >>> These numbers are from my Rand McNally Road Atlas, from the 2000 census. >>> >>> Helena's clearly your best bet by far for finding a newspaper record of >>> their marriage. If he was a bartender--an important occupation in a mining >>> town--their marriage might show up in the newspaper. We all long sometimes >>> for the 1890 census, and this is one of those times. >>> >>> Do you have any idea of the birth years of Margaret and Donald Shaw, and >>> where they were born? That might help find them prior to 1918. >>> >>> Good luck! >>> Doris >>> >>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Listers! >>>> >>>> This is a problem that has bothered me for at least 25 years. Maybe now >>>> has the time come to find the answer? >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> *Charles J(ames?) SHAW* >>>> son of Daniel SHAW and Catherine TOOLE >>>> born about 1855 in Ottawa. ON >>>> probably lived 1881 in Yale & Hope, BC (railroad fireman) >>>> >>>> married Mar. 6, 1888 at Helena, MT >>>> >>>> *Karen Kirstine aka Christine (Einersdotter) OVERBOE* >>>> daughter of Einar OVERBOE and Margaret HILLESTAD >>>> born June 2, 1865 in Hafslo parish, Luster Co., Norway >>>> emigrated in 1876 >>>> >>>> marriage witnesses: George N. Southworth and Ena Stanley >>>> >>>> Charles SHAW was 1888 a bartender at *Helena, MT*, supposedly moved a few >>>> years later to *Wallace, ID *- then disappeared! >>>> >>>> Karen Kirstine's parents died in Vernon Co., WI in 1919 (Margaret) and >>>> 1923 (Einer), and at the time of Einer Overboe's death we learn that Karen >>>> Kirstine had died - apparently prior to 1918(?) - leaving two children: >>>> >>>> 1. *Margaret SHAW* >>>> >>>> 2. *Donald SHAW* >>>> >>>> These children were searched for by the Vernon Co., WI probate court, but >>>> they were never found! >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> Is it possible today, 90 years later, to figure out what happened to Karen >>>> Kirstine "Christine", Charles and their children? >>>> >>>> Could there be newspaper notices telling about them? >>>> >>>> Any suggestions would be more than welcome, and I would be for ever >>>> indebted to anyone who reveals their destiny! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane

I just noticed that you said Charles Shaw might have ben a railroad fireman. These articles sound like a good match. Idaho Statesman; 21 Nov. 1900; page 5 FATAL WRECKS OCCUR IN COLORADO Denver, Colo., Nov. 20 - Two fatal wrecks occurred on the Denver & Rio Grande railway this morning. Freight train No. 70, eastbound, on the narrow gauge, became unmanageable on a steep grade and near Gray’s station the engine jumped the track and 12 cars piled on top of it. Brakeman Charles Shaw was instantly killed. Fireman Albert Brasswell is still under the wreckage and supposed to be dead. San Francisco used FIVE headlines on the front page for their story. San Francisco Call; Nov 21, 1900; page 1 CARS DASH DOWN THE MOUNTAIN Thrilling Disasters in Which Three Men Meet Death. From the Summit of Marshall Pass Runaway Train Descends. A FEARFUL VELOCITY ATTAINED Engineer, Fireman and Other Hands Remain at Their Posts Until the Accident Occurs. Denver, Colo., Nov. 20 - Three men were killed, three probably fatally injured and one other more or less injured in two wrecks on the Denver and Rio Grande Railroad between 1 o’clock and 1:30 this morning. The dead: CHARLES SHAW, Salida, brakeman …It goes on. Long article.

In Idaho there is no waiting period between being issued a marriage license and getting married. It's likely still true that divorces are still easy to obtain, too (altho that comes with a residency requirement whereas there is no residency requirement for marriage licenses and marriages). http://www.idaho.gov/family_records/marriage.html FYI, to add another dimension to the location, Wallace used to have many "houses of ill-repute." Many, many decades ago when politicians wanted to be elected they'd run on a platform of shutting down the houses of prostitution..., but that never lasted longer than the campaigns. The largest silver mines were between Kellogg & Wallace - on May 2, 1972, the Sunshine Mine collapsed near Kellogg, 91 were killed, and it now has a memorial at the entrance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Mine Beste hilsen, Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: Gregory Holter via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no>; "norway@rootsweb.com" <norway@rootsweb.com> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [NOR] Final attempt: Charles Shaw (1855) and Karen Kirstine Overboe (1865) - MT-ID-Canada? - newspaper items? Lars, Wallace, Idaho, is the Shoshone County seat, so the county may have some relevant records. (I will be passing through Wallace a couple times in June, going back to North Dakota and returning later, but I don't believe I will be there at the right time of day or the right day of the week to be able to do anything at the county courthouse.) Also, USGenWeb lists some lookup volunteers for Shoshone County resources, although the website looks like it may be totally out of date. And the Shoshone County Genealogical and Historical Society is located in Kellogg, Idaho and may be other resources. Wallace had a miner's strike in 1892 in which a number of lives were lost. They also had a huge fire in 1910. These events may well hinder the ability to track these people there. And just for fun, for those who may not be aware, Wallace is the self-proclaimed center of the universe. The location marker is in the middle of a street intersection in downtown Wallace. You can check that out on Wikipedia. Greg Holter From: Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: norway@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 4:47 PM Subject: [NOR] Final attempt: Charles Shaw (1855) and Karen Kirstine Overboe (1865) - MT-ID-Canada? - newspaper items? Dear Listers! This is a problem that has bothered me for at least 25 years. Maybe now has the time come to find the answer? ~~~~~~~~~~ Charles J(ames?) SHAW son of Daniel SHAW and Catherine TOOLE born about 1855 in Ottawa. ON probably lived 1881 in Yale & Hope, BC (railroad fireman) married Mar. 6, 1888 at Helena, MT Karen Kirstine aka Christine (Einersdotter) OVERBOE daughter of Einar OVERBOE and Margaret HILLESTAD born June 2, 1865 in Hafslo parish, Luster Co., Norway emigrated in 1876 marriage witnesses: George N. Southworth and Ena Stanley Charles SHAW was 1888 a bartender at Helena, MT, supposedly moved a few years later to Wallace, ID - then disappeared! Karen Kirstine's parents died in Vernon Co., WI in 1919 (Margaret) and 1923 (Einer), and at the time of Einer Overboe's death we learn that Karen Kirstine had died - apparently prior to 1918(?) - leaving two children: 1. Margaret SHAW 2. Donald SHAW These children were searched for by the Vernon Co., WI probate court, but they were never found! ~~~~~~~~~~ Is it possible today, 90 years later, to figure out what happened to Karen Kirstine "Christine", Charles and their children? Could there be newspaper notices telling about them? Any suggestions would be more than welcome, and I would be for ever indebted to anyone who reveals their destiny! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

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