Save ▼ ⎙Print Share▼ Herbert Anderson in the 1940 United States Federal Census Record Image View ⌹View blank form ✎Add alternate information !Report issue Name: Herbert Anderson Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Gender: Male Race: White Birthplace: Minnesota Marital Status: Single Relation to Head of House: Lodger Home in 1940: Pleasant Grove, Olmsted, Minnesota Map of Home in 1940: View Map Inferred Residence in 1935: Rural, Fillmore, Minnesota Residence in 1935: Rural, Fillmore, Minnesota Resident on farm in 1935: Yes Sheet Number: 7A Occupation: Farmer Labor Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George H Hale 68 Laura E Hale 60 Marvine Smith 22 Herbert Peacock 50 Herbert Anderson 53 Save ▼ Cancel -----Original Message----- From: Lars E. Oyane via Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:27 PM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Herbert Norman Anderson - born Mower Co.,MN 1887 - prisoner 1930 - later turkey rancher in Colorado? Dear Mark and other Listers! Thank you very much, Mark, for your considerable efforts trying to find out what became of Herbert Anderson. I have studied the newspaper articles that you sent me, but even if he MAY have used Andrew for a middle name, we can be fairly sure he never married, so he had no "legal" children. Having the feeling of coming nowhere with this problem, I decided this afternoon to call the State Hospital of St. Peter, MN inquiring about Herbert, and I did have at least a "partial" success! They have a state-wide index of all patients of all State Hospitals in MN, and they found this: Herbert Anderson from Mower Co., MN, born in Mower Co., MN July 10, 1887, was recorded as having entered the Willmar, MN State Hospital on June 23, 1944, and he was released on Aug. 11, 1947! So, he was apparently alive much later than previously assumed. When I talked to relatives of his many years ago, this is obviously where they remembered that he was "in and out" of the State Hospital, only they remembered the "wrong" Hospital... This information still raises two main questions: * Where was Herbert Anderson in 1940? * What became of Herbert Anderson after 1947? Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Jun 1, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Mark Erickson wrote: > Hi Lars, > Here’s a few more articles. Not sure if these will be useful. The first > one shows that there was a Herbert Anderson north of Denver in 1958. > The other articles are all for a Herbert A. Anderson. I seemed to remember > you mentioned in another thread that he was born Herbert A, but later went > by Herbert N. > The 1946 wedding article mentions that the bride is employed in Austin, > MN. They are all living just below Austin in Iowa. > Hopefully you’ll be able to spot something useful, but I’m not sure any of > these are related. > > The 1922 Wedding article that takes place in Cushing, WI sounds promising. > -Mark > On May 31, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Bev and other Listers! > > Thank you very much, Bev, for your comment from last week on Herbert > Anderson. > > After Herb's oldest brother Edward was located in Colorado, I question > very much that Herb can have been a "turkey rancher" in Colorado. It was > more likely Edward who did that as an "extra" occupation... > > And in view of Herb's "career" in Austin, MN as a restaurant cook and > later a prisoner, then in and out of the State Hospital at St. Peter, MN, > I also doubt he can ever have been a bus driver, whether it be in Alabama > or elsewhere!? > > Maybe it would be a better idea to try to find NEWSPAPER CLIPPINGS about > Herbert in Austin, MN? > > I am completely "stuck" on Herbert Norman Anderson, and any suggestions > would be of great importance to me! > > Thanks a million! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On May 25, 2015, at 9:04 PM, Bev Anderson via wrote: > >> Hi Lars - >> >> There was a Jeffers Bus Line in rural Alabama for school children and for >> hauling freight..., but the time frame is wrong unless it continued into >> the mid-20th century. >> >> Two quotes from a Jeffers genealogy web site: >> ~~~~~ >> >> http://www.boyettandburkett.com/jeffers.html >> Jasper County residents should know Nathaniel Jeffers, son of James >> Monroe Jeffers and Caroline C. Barnes. Nathaniel built and operated the >> “Hoodlum Wagon”, the first school bus in the area. >> >> Nathaniel Jeffers is known by many in the area as the man who built and >> operated the “Hoodlum Wagon”, the first school bus in these parts. As I >> told you the last time we visited, Nathaniel’s grandfather, the one he >> was named after, was Nathaniel Jeffers of Virginia. The elder Nathaniel >> was enumerated in the 1850 Alabama census as a wagoner. This means he >> drove wagons and hauled freight for a living. So Nathaniel, the younger, >> came by his desire to operate wagons and haul freight, school kids in >> this case, naturally. But Nathaniel was much more than just the man with >> the “Hoodlum Wagon” in Sabine, San Augustine and Jasper Counties >> ~~~~~ >> >> The much more likely bus line is Jefferson Lines, founded in 1919 and >> still headquartered in Minneapolis, Minnesota: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Lines >> >> The more famous bus line out of Minnesota, now nationwide (and owned by >> someone else with the name retained, plus diversified lines with >> different names for charter services) is Greyhound Lines, founded in >> Hibbing, St. Louis County, Minnesota in 1914. >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyhound_Lines >> >> Don't know if this info will help at all, but hope so. >> >> Beste, >> Bev >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> >> To: norway@rootsweb.com >> Cc: >> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 6:58 PM >> Subject: [NOR] Herbert Norman Anderson - born Mower Co., MN 1887 - >> prisoner 1930 - later turkey rancher in Colorado? >> >> Dear Listers! >> >> A brother of Edward Anderson (1877-1941) of Mower Co., MN and Arapahoe >> Co., CO also gives me considerable "head ache": >> >> Herbert Norman ANDERSON (christened as Herbert Andrew Anderson!) >> son of Erick Anderson (Sweden) and Ollegaard "Olga" Pederson (Norway) >> parents always residing in the city of Austin, Mower Co., MN >> >> was born July 10, 1887 in Mower Co., MN >> >> was in 1917 (WW1 draft) a single painter a Mason City, Cerro Gordo Co., >> IA >> >> was in 1920 (census) a single restaurant cook in Austin, Mower Co., MN >> >> was in 1930 (census) a prisoner at the Mower Co., MN jail in Austin, >> Mower Co., MN >> >> According to family (descending from siblings of Herbert's in Austin, MN >> Herbert went "in and out" of St. Peter State Hospital, but one of the >> Anderson brothers shall have ended up as a bus driver for the Jeffers(on) >> bus line in Alabama, and since Edward apparently was in Colorado, it must >> have been Herbert who drove the bus(?), and maybe he was also a turkey >> rancher at Ft. Morgan, Morgan Co., CO!?? Relatives in MN believe he >> never married, and they are pretty sure he died before 1940!? >> >> I have been unable to find this gentleman in any records after 1930! >> >> Could there be newspaper notices on him due to his "jail visit" in 1930? >> >> Any suggestions, as far as Herbert N. Anderson's destiny is concerned, >> will be more than welcome! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John Bøhmer was born Dec. 28 1861 Chicago. came to Norway and married a Swedish girl. The problem is: Who was his parents, mother and father and how can he have Bøhmer as surname ? Hans Myhre

Dear Listers, I am having trouble with another occupation. Can someone please give me an advice: Edward J. NEMEC, born in Carvber Co., MN June 22, 1907, died in Minneapolis, MN Oct. 31, 1952. Edward was, according to family, an "engineer" - the death certificate says: "ballistics inspector for the Twin Cities Ordonance" What did Edward actually do for a living? Thanks a million for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

All indications point to your Hanna being born in Borge between 1855 and 1860, but darned if I can spot her birth/baptism record. Eyes are getting worse, I guess. Have a nice day! Clark in Japan On 03-Jun-15 06:34 PM, Lisbeth Dyrnes via wrote: > Here is Hanna on census 1891 > http://arkivverket.no/URN:db_read/ft/53176/4646/?size=bigger&mode=0 > Lisbeth > 2015-06-03 7:54 GMT+02:00 EDWARD A SCRIVEN via <norway@rootsweb.com>: > >> I am searching for the birth and parents of Hanna Edea Karlsdatter. She is the mother of an illegitimate daughter Adolfine Petrine BLIX, born 1 September 1879 in Vikjord, Nordland, and christened in Borge, Nordland, 19 October 1879. She also had another illegitimate child with a different man in Vikjord in 1882. Neither entry gives a clue about her birth, and she is only named Hanna Karlsdatter in both entries. >> Using census records I have found in 1865 a Hanna Edea Karlsdatter in Vikjord in Borge as a 10 year old serving girl in the home of Hans Jakobsen. In 1875 there is a Hanna Carlsen in Valberg in Borge in the home of Peder Ellingsen. It says she was born 1856 in Valberg B and is a maid. >> There is a Hendrikke Leonora Eddia Carlsdatter born in Kartfjord 23 June 1856 and christened in Valberg (also listed on Borge parish) 10 August 1856, daughter of Carl Olsen and Dorthea Elliasdatter. She is confirmed in 1875 I believe it was. There is a Hanna Karlsdatter married to Petter Martinussen on the 1910 census in Steinbakken in Borge born 24 Jun 1855 in Borge. That is off by a year and a day for the Hendrikke born in Kartfjord, and she has the middle name of Eddia when she was christened similar to the Edea on the 1865 Census mentioned. I can't decide which ones might be correct for the Hanna Karlsdatter I am seeking. >> Any other possibilities, insights, or suggestions? >> Edward A. Scriven >> Layton, Utah >> Always be Happy!!

Are you sure that he wasn't from Sun Prairie in Dane County WI? Sent from my iPad > On Jun 3, 2015, at 3:00 AM, norway-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Herman Peterson - victim of Chattanooga, TN June 13, 1864 > - from Laerdal in Sogn? (Lars E. Oyane) > 2. Re: Need help with German & Latin Translation please > (Bev Anderson) > 3. Re: Need help with German & Latin Translation please (Elizabeth) > 4. Murphys Law kin of OT (Sid & Nadine Snider) > 5. Re: Research assistance at the Vernon County, WI probate > court in Viroqua, WI, please? (Brian J Densmore) > 6. Re: Research assistance at the Vernon County, WI probate > court in Viroqua, WI, please? (Brian J Densmore) > 7. Re: Murphys Law kin of OT (Barbara Young) > 8. Re: Herman Peterson - victim of Chattanooga, TN June 13, 1864 > - from Laerdal in Sogn? (Lars E. Oyane) > 9. Re: Herman Peterson - victim of Chattanooga, TN June 13, 1864 > - from Laerdal in Sogn? (Mark Erickson) > 10. any British Columbia list members? (Garth Ulrich) > 11. Can't find a birth or even a confirmation (EDWARD A SCRIVEN) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 02:53:25 -0500 > From: "Lars E. Oyane" <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> > Subject: Re: [NOR] Herman Peterson - victim of Chattanooga, TN June > 13, 1864 - from Laerdal in Sogn? > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <60A3AA77-AB76-40B6-85C9-C98CB37765DB@sdsl.no> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Dear Annette and other Listers! > > Thank you very much, Annette, for your latest comment on my Herman Peterson problem! > > So, I believe also we may assume there was just one Herman Peterson at Chattanooga, TN. But he apparently wasn't killed "in action". Somewhere it says he died from disease, as did numerous other soldiers at the same time and the same place! According to Wikipedia, the last of three battles at Chattanooga, TN took place in November of 1863! Could it be they had an army hospital at Chattanooga, TN? > > After all of this it remains to find evidence that his widow Kari, later known as Carrie Hermanson, indeed did apply for pension, and also I am still missing her date and place of death, which I presume must have been in Mitchell Co., IA some time between 1910 and 1920!? > > Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> On Jun 1, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Annette Bowen wrote: >> >> I would guess that one of the two June dates is an error. There was >> no Unit History for the Pioneer Corps on the nps site, but I found >> this long article about it. >> >> http://www.thecivilwargroup.com/pioneer.html >> >> I browsed the fold3 service records and the index card for Hermand >> Peterson, Co. D, 2nd Batt'n, Pioneer Brigade says "see also 15 Wis. >> Inf." so apparently the same man served in both units. The index >> cards give only soldier's name, rank and unit. Too bad he wasn't a >> Confederate. Fold3 has muster, pay, hospital, and other records for >> those units. >> >> This site tells what records exist, but I don't think they are online. >> Most are on microfilm and some records are only on paper. >> >> http://www.archives.gov/research/military/civil-war/resources.html#union >> >>> On 6/1/15, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: >>> Dear Annette and other Listers! >>> >>> Thank you very much, Annette, for your latest messages! >>> >>> But now I am confused! We know there was a much younger Herman Peterson >>> from Minnesota who took part in the Civil War, but he survived and lived >>> even long after 1900. >>> >>> However, if I understand you, Annette, correctly, there were TWO Herman >>> Petersons who were BOTH at Chattanooga, TN, one as a member of the Pioneer >>> Corps and the other one a "real" soldier, one dying June 11, 1864 and the >>> other one dying June 13, 1864? I am indeed confused... Were they both from >>> Spring Prairie, WI? And how old was the other one? >>> >>> Thanks again for clearing me up on this topic! >>> >>> Very sincerely yours. >>> >>> Lars E. Oyane >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>>> On Jun 1, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Annette Bowen via wrote: >>>> >>>> Findagrave has an entry for Herman Peterson in the Chattanooga >>>> National Cemetery. >>>> >>>> http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=2991020 >>>> >>>>> On 6/1/15, Annette Bowen <annette.bowen@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Lars, >>>>> The Soldiers and Sailors database shows two soldiers named Herman >>>>> Peterson. One is the man Greg found. The other was in the 15th >>>>> Regiment, Wisconsin Infantry. Skimming the Battle Unit Details, this >>>>> one seems more likely since they were at Chattanooga. >>>>> http://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-battle-units-detail.htm?battleUnitCode=UWI0015RI >>>>> >>>>> Fold3 has only an index card, showing that he was a private. >>>>> >>>>> Annette >>>> On Jun 1, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Greg and other Listers! >>>> >>>> Thank you very much, Greg, for sending me the information from the >>>> vesterheim.org military database. >>>> >>>> I must admit, I am somewhat confused. The database on ancestry.com shows >>>> Herman Peterson died on June 13, 1864 at Chattanooga, TN, while >>>> vesterheim.org shows June 11, 1864. What should we believe? Maybe a >>>> NEWSPAPER NOTICE can help clear up this question? >>>> >>>> Another feature is Herman's age and civil status. I have this evening >>>> located Herman Peterson's emigration record. He obtained his passport in >>>> Bergen in 1858 and must have left shortly thereafter. And being alone in >>>> the US, he may have "lied" about his age as well as about his civil >>>> status!? And another fact, there is NOONE "matching" this Herman in the >>>> 1860 census, so he probably "lied" about his name as well... >>>> >>>> Maybe some additional evidence can be found if we can locate his widow's >>>> retirement application? Aren't there online records showing such >>>> applications? >>>> >>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>>> On Jun 1, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Greg Hanson via wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The ages don't match, but this is the only Herman Peterson I could find >>>>> who died at Chattanooga. The Pioneer Corps was like the current Combat >>>>> Engineer corp in today's US Army. The build bridges, roads, >>>>> fortifications, etc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> WI 15th Inf Co B. Residence: Spring Prairie, Dane County, Wisconsin. >>>>> Civil War: Age 28. Unmarried. Enlisted for three years on 31 Oct 1861 at >>>>> Madison, Wisconsin, and mustered there on 16 Nov 1861. Private. Was in >>>>> Pioneer Corps in November, 1862. Died of Disease at Chattanooga, >>>>> Tennessee, 11 Jun 1864. Buried in National Cemetery, Chattanooga; section >>>>> 6, grave 51. Sources: (WHS Series 1200 box 76-4; red book vol 20 p 34) >>>>> (Buslett p396) (Ager p297) (RWV p809) >>>>> >>>>> http://vesterheim.org/collections/civil-war-database/p/pet/008732.html >>>>> >>>>>> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 10:55:54 -0500 >>>>>> To: norway@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Subject: [NOR] Herman Peterson - victim of Chattanooga, TN June 13, 1864 >>>>>> - from Laerdal in Sogn? >>>>>> From: norway@rootsweb.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Listers! >>>>>> >>>>>> The Laerdal bygdebook (vol. IV - p. 173) tells about: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hermund Pederson from Eri in Laerdal Co., Norway, born Feb. 20, 1825, >>>>>> married in Laerdal Apr. 20, 1852 to Kari Pedersdotter Oye, born in >>>>>> L?rdal July 5, 1828. The couple loved for a while at Laerdalsoyri in >>>>>> Laerdal Co., Norway, but Hermund supposedly left for America at some >>>>>> point and shall be identical to: >>>>>> >>>>>> Herman Peterson, died in the battle of Chattanooga, TN June 13, 1864. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kari tried for years after to obtain widow's pension, and in 1868 she >>>>>> emigrated with their only son: >>>>>> >>>>>> * Peter Hermanson, born in Laerdal Dec. 27, 1851. >>>>>> >>>>>> Peter's address was given in 1924 as LeRoy, Minnesota! >>>>>> >>>>>> So far the Laerdal bygdebook. Then I have found this: >>>>>> >>>>>> The 1910 census of Wayne township, Mitchell Co., IA shows: >>>>>> >>>>>> HERMANSON, Peter 58 single Nor Nor Nor farmer emigrated 1868 >>>>>> HERMANSON, Carrie 81 widowed Nor Nor Nor mother emigrated 1868 >>>>>> >>>>>> Checking further census records I find Peter and his mother at the same >>>>>> address already by 1880, but by 1920 Carrie was gone, and replaced by a >>>>>> wife: >>>>>> >>>>>> Britha aka Bessie Hermanson nee Thompson, born in Dane Co., WI Dec. 12, >>>>>> 1866. Her parents (Henry Thompson and Christie Hanson) had both come >>>>>> from Luster Co., Norway in 1863. Bessie had first been married in Mower >>>>>> Co., MN May 19, 1896 to one Martin Hermanson, born in Mitchell Co., IA >>>>>> about 1871, died in Mower Co., MN about 1899 (I have no further details >>>>>> about him!), and then she married Peter Hermanson in Mower Co., MN on >>>>>> May 24, 1911. Peter died at New Hampton, IA June 22, 1935, while Bessie >>>>>> died at LeRoy, MN on June 1, 1946. >>>>>> >>>>>> What I would like now to find out, are the following details: >>>>>> >>>>>> ** When did Herman Peterson emigrate to the US? >>>>>> >>>>>> ** Where did he reside prior to enlisting in the Civil War? >>>>>> >>>>>> ** Date and place of death of Carrie Hermanson, his widow? >>>>>> >>>>>> ** Can any further details be added on Martin Hermanson? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you very much in advance for your great assistance in this >>>>>> matter! >>>>>> >>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>> >>>>>> Lars E. Oyane > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 08:07:08 +0000 (UTC) > From: Bev Anderson <bevgand@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [NOR] Need help with German & Latin Translation please > To: "norway@rootsweb.com" <norway@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1829974615.3236283.1433232428535.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Hi Elizabeth - > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NORWAY/2015-06/1433152664 > > While I appreciate your thanks, it was Catherine Stallybrass who has the educational background to give you the extensive and accurate explanation, and she's the one to whom your gratitude should be directed. I've had no background in Latin, so only have Latin info & explanations for other things from old history books, online translating programs, or info gleaned via genealogy research. > > Ergo, I'm passing this on to Catherine.... :-) > > Beste hilsen, > Bev > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Elizabeth <aliens@bigpond.net.au> > To: Bev Anderson <bevgand@yahoo.com>; norway@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 9:12 PM > Subject: Re: [NOR] Need help with German & Latin Translation please > > Hello Bev, > > Thanks again for your imput, we do have several Latin & German > dictionaries but the problem is how to work out the exact legal meaning > in this public announcement in the newspaper in 1828. > > As usual Google translate gives a crazy translation of the text so I > can't use this information unless it has been translated by someone with > experience in such matters. > > I have researched similar court documents in English and they can be > very difficult to follow at times. > > I had hoped someone on the list may have had experience in this research > as we have so many talented people here. > > Great to hear from you again, > > Elizabeth > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 21:46:25 +1000 > From: Elizabeth <aliens@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: Re: [NOR] Need help with German & Latin Translation please > To: Bev Anderson <bevgand@yahoo.com>, norway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <556D9791.7030709@bigpond.net.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello Bev, > > I had already thanked Catherine Stallybrass last night and just now sent > her the link to the newspaper and the translation we have done so far. > > I now have a general idea of the content but would like to find the > outcome of the court case if possible. This means more research for me. > > As it was in a Hamburg newspaper I didn't want to bore everyone on the list. > > Thank you again for your kind thoughts. > > Sincerely, > > Elizabeth > >> On 2/06/2015 6:07 PM, Bev Anderson via wrote: >> Hi Elizabeth - >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NORWAY/2015-06/1433152664 >> >> While I appreciate your thanks, it was Catherine Stallybrass who has the educational background to give you the extensive and accurate explanation, and she's the one to whom your gratitude should be directed. I've had no background in Latin, so only have Latin info& explanations for other things from old history books, online translating programs, or info gleaned via genealogy research. >> >> Ergo, I'm passing this on to Catherine.... :-) >> >> Beste hilsen, >> Bev >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Elizabeth<aliens@bigpond.net.au> >> To: Bev Anderson<bevgand@yahoo.com>; norway@rootsweb.com >> Cc: >> Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 9:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [NOR] Need help with German& Latin Translation please >> >> Hello Bev, >> >> Thanks again for your imput, we do have several Latin& German >> dictionaries but the problem is how to work out the exact legal meaning >> in this public announcement in the newspaper in 1828. >> >> As usual Google translate gives a crazy translation of the text so I >> can't use this information unless it has been translated by someone with >> experience in such matters. >> >> I have researched similar court documents in English and they can be >> very difficult to follow at times. >> >> I had hoped someone on the list may have had experience in this research >> as we have so many talented people here. >> >> Great to hear from you again, >> >> Elizabeth >> Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway >> >> RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html >> >> guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 09:33:25 -0500 > From: "Sid & Nadine Snider" <tsni843@sunflower.com> > Subject: [NOR] Murphys Law kin of OT > To: <norway@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <656FB1D7390B47B480D5AEE770FCE923@UNI200098> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > > There used to a be a list of Murphys Law on the wall where I once worked. > On the top of the list was the statement Murphy was an optimist. > > Nadine > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:13:21 -0500 > From: "Brian J Densmore" <brian@amason.net> > Subject: Re: [NOR] Research assistance at the Vernon County, WI > probate court in Viroqua, WI, please? > To: "Lars E. Oyane" <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no>, norway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <eaad5515a9c0157a57508a92a8525f99.squirrel@www.amason.net> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > I can help here, a little. I've been to the courthouse, for adoption and > estate records. They have an index. An index card file index. Some of the > women that work there are very helpful. Some are not. Good luck. > > Viroqua is not in my list of places for this year. I may get up that way > around Thanksgiving or Christmas, but have no current plans to do either. > Otherwise, I'd offer to do whatever look up you need. I still have > unresolved issues from my last visit to the courthouse. It's a frustrating > place. Probably true everywhere in Wisconsin. All of my wife's brickwalls > are from there. > > I will actually be in the region in July for a wedding, but I'm not sure I > will have an opportunity to get to Viroqua. I had planned to stop at the > family graveyard in Luck. > > Brian > >> Dear Listers! >> >> Just for a very limited time "Adam was in Paradise". I thought the Vernon >> Co., WI probate records would be easy to research on film; however, I sent >> an inquiry to Salt Lake City, UT about it, and here is the reply I have >> just received: >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> I checked the index (film 1509137) which appears to cover only the listed >> files and not the boxes. Einar Overboe was not list in the searched index >> so I assume his probate file is in the boxes which I do not have an index >> to. There are thirty-seven films which cover the boxes and there does not >> appear to be any order for them nor an index. Unfortunately, I do not have >> the time to search through that many films, I?m sorry. >> >> Perhaps, at the courthouse, they might have an ?internal? index or a >> faster way of accessing these records. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:17:50 -0500 > From: "Brian J Densmore" <brian@amason.net> > Subject: Re: [NOR] Research assistance at the Vernon County, WI > probate court in Viroqua, WI, please? > To: "Doris Waggoner" <waggonerdoris@gmail.com>, norway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <2d0e46017c9196e8065e8a9ba5d85a71.squirrel@www.amason.net> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > >> Lars, >> >> When reading this thread about your difficulty about finding the Vernon >> Co. >> probate records in the Murphy Law Library, I keep thinking about Murphy's >> Law. Are you familiar with this American expression? Simply >> stated--"Anything that can go wrong, will." More or less, that's what you >> seem to be bumping up against here. It's looking like you need that local >> volunteer to go through them one by one, not a simple task! > > If you're going to state Murphy's Law, you have to do it the right way. > > Murphy's Law: > > Anything that can go wrong, will, > at the worst possible occasion. > > > > Many years ago, I created, in honor of my gr-gr-grandfather Michael > Cunningham, > > Cunningham's Corollary: > > Murphy, was an Optimist. > > > Brian > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 13:22:41 -0400 > From: Barbara Young <bayofcc@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [NOR] Murphys Law kin of OT > To: Sid & Nadine Snider <tsni843@sunflower.com>, norway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <556DE661.2050808@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > :} > >> On 6/2/2015 10:33 AM, Sid & Nadine Snider via wrote: >> There used to a be a list of Murphys Law on the wall where I once worked. >> On the top of the list was the statement Murphy was an optimist. >> >> Nadine >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway >> >> RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html >> >> guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:47:39 -0500 > From: "Lars E. Oyane" <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> > Subject: Re: [NOR] Herman Peterson - victim of Chattanooga, TN June > 13, 1864 - from Laerdal in Sogn? > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <B48776BB-FE29-4871-874C-16C76AE789F0@sdsl.no> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Dear Annette and other Listers! > > Thank you very much, Annette, for your latest comments on Herman Peterson. > > It is interesting to see there was indeed a pension application for Herman, so we know he was married at the time he died in the Civil War, so I must just assume we have found the "right" Herman! > > In the meantime Carrie's death record has also appeared, on FamilySearch: > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Carie Peterson > > Iowa, County Death Records > Name: Carie Peterson > > Event Type: Death > > Event Date: 15 Dec 1910 > > Event Place: Wayne, Mitchell, Iowa, United States > > Age: 82 > > Birth Year (Estimated): 1828 > > Father's Name: Peter Thomspon > > Mother's Name: C Peterson > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > The mother's name is wrong; her name was actually Anna Knutsdotter, but all of the other details "match", her age, place of residence and father's name, so I am sure she's the right one! > > So, now it remains to identify Martin Hermanson, Bessie's 1st husband! Any chance he can be identified? > > Thanks again for your wonderful assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:25 AM, Annette Bowen wrote: >> >> Lars, >> Fold3.com has an index card for a Pension Application for Peterson, >> Herman, Co. B, 15 Reg't, Wis. Inf. Date of Filing 1887 June 28, Class >> Widow, Application number 357345, Certificate number 257599. That is >> all the information on the card. It doesn't give the widow's name. >> (Other Class designations were Invalid and Minor.) The applications >> are not online. >> >> This is from the Pioneer Brigade online article. >> http://www.thecivilwargroup.com/pioneer.html >> >> "The remainder of the Pioneer Brigade remained intact even after their >> numbers were drained with the first re-elistments into the First USVVE >> in June 1864. It was already significantly reduced in numbers in May >> 1864 and then folded into the existing engineering units in the >> Military Division of the Mississippi under Captain Merrill. By that >> time it retained 1000 men for the construction of works in >> Chattanooga." >> >> Maybe Herman was one of those retained in Chattanooga. There were >> definitely army hospitals in Chattanooga. >> >>> On 6/2/15, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: >>> Dear Annette and other Listers! >>> >>> Thank you very much, Annette, for your latest comment on my Herman Peterson >>> problem! >>> >>> So, I believe also we may assume there was just one Herman Peterson at >>> Chattanooga, TN. But he apparently wasn't killed "in action". Somewhere it >>> says he died from disease, as did numerous other soldiers at the same time >>> and the same place! According to Wikipedia, the last of three battles at >>> Chattanooga, TN took place in November of 1863! Could it be they had an >>> army hospital at Chattanooga, TN? >>> >>> After all of this it remains to find evidence that his widow Kari, later >>> known as Carrie Hermanson, indeed did apply for pension, and also I am still >>> missing her date and place of death, which I presume must have been in >>> Mitchell Co., IA some time between 1910 and 1920!? >>> >>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>> >>> Very sincerely yours, >>> >>> Lars E. Oyane >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>>> On Jun 1, 2015, at 8:40 PM, Annette Bowen wrote: >>>> >>>> I would guess that one of the two June dates is an error. There was >>>> no Unit History for the Pioneer Corps on the nps site, but I found >>>> this long article about it. >>>> >>>> http://www.thecivilwargroup.com/pioneer.html >>>> >>>> I browsed the fold3 service records and the index card for Hermand >>>> Peterson, Co. D, 2nd Batt'n, Pioneer Brigade says "see also 15 Wis. >>>> Inf." so apparently the same man served in both units. The index >>>> cards give only soldier's name, rank and unit. Too bad he wasn't a >>>> Confederate. Fold3 has muster, pay, hospital, and other records for >>>> those units. >>>> >>>> This site tells what records exist, but I don't think they are online. >>>> Most are on microfilm and some records are only on paper. >>>> >>>> http://www.archives.gov/research/military/civil-war/resources.html#union >>>> >>>>> On 6/1/15, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> wrote: >>>>> Dear Annette and other Listers! >>>>> >>>>> Thank you very much, Annette, for your latest messages! >>>>> >>>>> But now I am confused! We know there was a much younger Herman Peterson >>>>> from Minnesota who took part in the Civil War, but he survived and lived >>>>> even long after 1900. >>>>> >>>>> However, if I understand you, Annette, correctly, there were TWO Herman >>>>> Petersons who were BOTH at Chattanooga, TN, one as a member of the >>>>> Pioneer >>>>> Corps and the other one a "real" soldier, one dying June 11, 1864 and >>>>> the >>>>> other one dying June 13, 1864? I am indeed confused... Were they both >>>>> from >>>>> Spring Prairie, WI? And how old was the other one? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again for clearing me up on this topic! >>>>> >>>>> Very sincerely yours. >>>>> >>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 1, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Annette Bowen via wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Findagrave has an entry for Herman Peterson in the Chattanooga >>>>>> National Cemetery. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=2991020 >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 6/1/15, Annette Bowen <annette.bowen@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Lars, >>>>>>> The Soldiers and Sailors database shows two soldiers named Herman >>>>>>> Peterson. One is the man Greg found. The other was in the 15th >>>>>>> Regiment, Wisconsin Infantry. Skimming the Battle Unit Details, this >>>>>>> one seems more likely since they were at Chattanooga. >>>>>>> http://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-battle-units-detail.htm?battleUnitCode=UWI0015RI >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fold3 has only an index card, showing that he was a private. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Annette >>>>>> On Jun 1, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Greg and other Listers! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you very much, Greg, for sending me the information from the >>>>>> vesterheim.org military database. >>>>>> >>>>>> I must admit, I am somewhat confused. The database on ancestry.com >>>>>> shows >>>>>> Herman Peterson died on June 13, 1864 at Chattanooga, TN, while >>>>>> vesterheim.org shows June 11, 1864. What should we believe? Maybe a >>>>>> NEWSPAPER NOTICE can help clear up this question? >>>>>> >>>>>> Another feature is Herman's age and civil status. I have this evening >>>>>> located Herman Peterson's emigration record. He obtained his passport >>>>>> in >>>>>> Bergen in 1858 and must have left shortly thereafter. And being alone >>>>>> in >>>>>> the US, he may have "lied" about his age as well as about his civil >>>>>> status!? And another fact, there is NOONE "matching" this Herman in >>>>>> the >>>>>> 1860 census, so he probably "lied" about his name as well... >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe some additional evidence can be found if we can locate his >>>>>> widow's >>>>>> retirement application? Aren't there online records showing such >>>>>> applications? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>>>>> >>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>> >>>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>>> >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 1, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Greg Hanson via wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The ages don't match, but this is the only Herman Peterson I could >>>>>>> find >>>>>>> who died at Chattanooga. The Pioneer Corps was like the current >>>>>>> Combat >>>>>>> Engineer corp in today's US Army. The build bridges, roads, >>>>>>> fortifications, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WI 15th Inf Co B. Residence: Spring Prairie, Dane County, Wisconsin. >>>>>>> Civil War: Age 28. Unmarried. Enlisted for three years on 31 Oct 1861 >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> Madison, Wisconsin, and mustered there on 16 Nov 1861. Private. Was in >>>>>>> Pioneer Corps in November, 1862. Died of Disease at Chattanooga, >>>>>>> Tennessee, 11 Jun 1864. Buried in National Cemetery, Chattanooga; >>>>>>> section >>>>>>> 6, grave 51. Sources: (WHS Series 1200 box 76-4; red book vol 20 p 34) >>>>>>> (Buslett p396) (Ager p297) (RWV p809) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://vesterheim.org/collections/civil-war-database/p/pet/008732.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 10:55:54 -0500 >>>>>>>> To: norway@rootsweb.com >>>>>>>> Subject: [NOR] Herman Peterson - victim of Chattanooga, TN June >>>>>>>> 13, 1864 >>>>>>>> - from Laerdal in Sogn? >>>>>>>> From: norway@rootsweb.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Listers! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Laerdal bygdebook (vol. IV - p. 173) tells about: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hermund Pederson from Eri in Laerdal Co., Norway, born Feb. 20, 1825, >>>>>>>> married in Laerdal Apr. 20, 1852 to Kari Pedersdotter Oye, born in >>>>>>>> L?rdal July 5, 1828. The couple loved for a while at Laerdalsoyri in >>>>>>>> Laerdal Co., Norway, but Hermund supposedly left for America at some >>>>>>>> point and shall be identical to: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Herman Peterson, died in the battle of Chattanooga, TN June 13, 1864. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kari tried for years after to obtain widow's pension, and in 1868 she >>>>>>>> emigrated with their only son: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Peter Hermanson, born in Laerdal Dec. 27, 1851. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Peter's address was given in 1924 as LeRoy, Minnesota! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So far the Laerdal bygdebook. Then I have found this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The 1910 census of Wayne township, Mitchell Co., IA shows: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HERMANSON, Peter 58 single Nor Nor Nor farmer emigrated 1868 >>>>>>>> HERMANSON, Carrie 81 widowed Nor Nor Nor mother emigrated 1868 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Checking further census records I find Peter and his mother at the >>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>> address already by 1880, but by 1920 Carrie was gone, and replaced by >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> wife: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Britha aka Bessie Hermanson nee Thompson, born in Dane Co., WI Dec. >>>>>>>> 12, >>>>>>>> 1866. Her parents (Henry Thompson and Christie Hanson) had both come >>>>>>>> from Luster Co., Norway in 1863. Bessie had first been married in >>>>>>>> Mower >>>>>>>> Co., MN May 19, 1896 to one Martin Hermanson, born in Mitchell Co., >>>>>>>> IA >>>>>>>> about 1871, died in Mower Co., MN about 1899 (I have no further >>>>>>>> details >>>>>>>> about him!), and then she married Peter Hermanson in Mower Co., MN on >>>>>>>> May 24, 1911. Peter died at New Hampton, IA June 22, 1935, while >>>>>>>> Bessie >>>>>>>> died at LeRoy, MN on June 1, 1946. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What I would like now to find out, are the following details: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** When did Herman Peterson emigrate to the US? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** Where did he reside prior to enlisting in the Civil War? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** Date and place of death of Carrie Hermanson, his widow? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ** Can any further details be added on Martin Hermanson? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you very much in advance for your great assistance in this >>>>>>>> matter! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lars E. Oyane > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:59:31 -0500 > From: Mark Erickson <merickson1870@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [NOR] Herman Peterson - victim of Chattanooga, TN June > 13, 1864 - from Laerdal in Sogn? > To: "lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no" <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no>, norway@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <786222E0-D7BC-4B99-97B8-3F3AB44E8FDF@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > You said the 1910 census of Wayne township, Mitchell Co., IA shows: > > HERMANSON, Peter 58 single Nor Nor Nor farmer emigrated 1868 > HERMANSON, Carrie 81 widowed Nor Nor Nor mother emigrated 1868 > > She was the widow of Herman Peterson, so this looks like your missing Carrie. > > Name: Carie Peterson > Event Type: Death > Event Date: 15 Dec 1910 > Event Place: Wayne, Mitchell, Iowa, United States > Age: 82 > Birth Year (Estimated): 1828 > Father's Name: Peter Thomspon > Mother's Name: C Peterson > > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVMN-4KQH <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVMN-4KQH> > > -Mark > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 21:19:13 -0600 > From: "Garth Ulrich" <gulrich@sasktel.net> > Subject: [NOR] any British Columbia list members? > To: <norway@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <1AB9A92B76634378BFD87C338EF170A1@GarthUlrichPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Are there any list members from British Columbia? I am wondering how I might > search for/obtain a 1979 obit from Terrace. > > > Thanks, > > Garth > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 23:54:12 -0600 > From: EDWARD A SCRIVEN <eascriv@msn.com> > Subject: [NOR] Can't find a birth or even a confirmation > To: "norway@rootsweb.com" <norway@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BLU184-W458792F9E4BEEC89BB88C5BCB40@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I am searching for the birth and parents of Hanna Edea Karlsdatter. She is the mother of an illegitimate daughter Adolfine Petrine BLIX, born 1 September 1879 in Vikjord, Nordland, and christened in Borge, Nordland, 19 October 1879. She also had another illegitimate child with a different man in Vikjord in 1882. Neither entry gives a clue about her birth, and she is only named Hanna Karlsdatter in both entries. > Using census records I have found in 1865 a Hanna Edea Karlsdatter in Vikjord in Borge as a 10 year old serving girl in the home of Hans Jakobsen. In 1875 there is a Hanna Carlsen in Valberg in Borge in the home of Peder Ellingsen. It says she was born 1856 in Valberg B and is a maid. There is a Hendrikke Leonora Eddia Carlsdatter born in Kartfjord 23 June 1856 and christened in Valberg (also listed on Borge parish) 10 August 1856, daughter of Carl Olsen and Dorthea Elliasdatter. She is confirmed in 1875 I believe it was. There is a Hanna Karlsdatter married to Petter Martinussen on the 1910 census in Steinbakken in Borge born 24 Jun 1855 in Borge. That is off by a year and a day for the Hendrikke born in Kartfjord, and she has the middle name of Eddia when she was christened similar to the Edea on the 1865 Census mentioned. I can't decide which ones might be correct for the Hanna Karlsdatter I am seeking. > Any other possibilities, insights, or suggestions? > Edward A. Scriven > Layton, Utah > Always be Happy!! > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NORWAY list administrator, send an email to > NORWAY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NORWAY mailing list, send an email to NORWAY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NORWAY Digest, Vol 10, Issue 178 > ***************************************

Dear Listers! You may recall I inquired several months ago about one William Martin GOEBEL from Norway who emigrated to and lived at Moline, Rock Island Co., IL. Well, I finally got in contact with a descendant who lives only a few blocks away from the courthouse, and she has been collecting information about various family members. Then, a few days ago, we agreed that she should pass by the courthouse to inquire about the following records: ~~~~~~~~~~~ > * Divorce record for Laura and Robert Fonger about 1892? > > * Divorce record for Laura and William Martin Goebel about 1901? > > * Divorce record for Laura and Albert Kasenberg about 1910? > > * Probate record for William Martin Goebel about 1901, provided he died? ~~~~~~~~~~~ And here is the report she sent me tonight: ~~~~~~~~~~~ The courthouse was a dead end. I went there on lunch and got to the third floor circuit clerk, and they don't have old records in the computer system. I then asked if the archived ones or any record from late 1800s to early 1900s were anywhere I could access them and she stated no. The look share gave me, kind of made me think she is not reliable on old records. She asked for a case number. I stated it was from around 1892 and I wasn't sure of a case number. She got on the computer and pulled up my cousin robert Fonger from 1984. I gave Laura's name....nothing. Any suggestions? I was not happy, used up my whole break and no answers to where these old records are. All three women looked at me like I was crazy. I said.....I am looking for old divorce records for family tree purposes, I am in the correct spot, right? And they said yes. ~~~~~~~~~~~ I repeat her question: Any suggestions? To me it sounds like the people working in this office didn't quite know why they were there... Could it be that NEWSPAPER ITEMS can be located to help further with these records? Thanks a million for any assistance we (the descendant and I) can get in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Dear Linda, These names, Andrew and Susie (Thompson) Larson of Fosston, MN sound so familiar... Could you please include some additional facts about them? Where were they from? Thank you! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Jun 3, 2015, at 5:23 PM, lsharp via wrote: > I'm searching for Alice Larson, b. about 1893 to Andrew and Susie (Thompson) Larson > we think in Fosston, MN. > > The family lived in Williston, ND for some years. > > We think Alice married a Ray Miller, based on citing a Mrs. Ray Miller, sister, in > the death notice of both her sister in 1930 and her mother in 1935, both times in > Royal Iowa. > > Any tips to find where Alice is buried, and names of her children would be much > appreciated. > > Thank you! > > Linda >

Dear Mark and other Listers! Thank you very much, Mark, for your considerable efforts trying to find out what became of Herbert Anderson. I have studied the newspaper articles that you sent me, but even if he MAY have used Andrew for a middle name, we can be fairly sure he never married, so he had no "legal" children. Having the feeling of coming nowhere with this problem, I decided this afternoon to call the State Hospital of St. Peter, MN inquiring about Herbert, and I did have at least a "partial" success! They have a state-wide index of all patients of all State Hospitals in MN, and they found this: Herbert Anderson from Mower Co., MN, born in Mower Co., MN July 10, 1887, was recorded as having entered the Willmar, MN State Hospital on June 23, 1944, and he was released on Aug. 11, 1947! So, he was apparently alive much later than previously assumed. When I talked to relatives of his many years ago, this is obviously where they remembered that he was "in and out" of the State Hospital, only they remembered the "wrong" Hospital... This information still raises two main questions: * Where was Herbert Anderson in 1940? * What became of Herbert Anderson after 1947? Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Jun 1, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Mark Erickson wrote: > Hi Lars, > Here’s a few more articles. Not sure if these will be useful. The first one shows that there was a Herbert Anderson north of Denver in 1958. > The other articles are all for a Herbert A. Anderson. I seemed to remember you mentioned in another thread that he was born Herbert A, but later went by Herbert N. > The 1946 wedding article mentions that the bride is employed in Austin, MN. They are all living just below Austin in Iowa. > Hopefully you’ll be able to spot something useful, but I’m not sure any of these are related. > > The 1922 Wedding article that takes place in Cushing, WI sounds promising. > -Mark > On May 31, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Bev and other Listers! > > Thank you very much, Bev, for your comment from last week on Herbert Anderson. > > After Herb's oldest brother Edward was located in Colorado, I question very much that Herb can have been a "turkey rancher" in Colorado. It was more likely Edward who did that as an "extra" occupation... > > And in view of Herb's "career" in Austin, MN as a restaurant cook and later a prisoner, then in and out of the State Hospital at St. Peter, MN, I also doubt he can ever have been a bus driver, whether it be in Alabama or elsewhere!? > > Maybe it would be a better idea to try to find NEWSPAPER CLIPPINGS about Herbert in Austin, MN? > > I am completely "stuck" on Herbert Norman Anderson, and any suggestions would be of great importance to me! > > Thanks a million! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On May 25, 2015, at 9:04 PM, Bev Anderson via wrote: > >> Hi Lars - >> >> There was a Jeffers Bus Line in rural Alabama for school children and for hauling freight..., but the time frame is wrong unless it continued into the mid-20th century. >> >> Two quotes from a Jeffers genealogy web site: >> ~~~~~ >> >> http://www.boyettandburkett.com/jeffers.html >> Jasper County residents should know Nathaniel Jeffers, son of James Monroe Jeffers and Caroline C. Barnes. Nathaniel built and operated the “Hoodlum Wagon”, the first school bus in the area. >> >> Nathaniel Jeffers is known by many in the area as the man who built and operated the “Hoodlum Wagon”, the first school bus in these parts. As I told you the last time we visited, Nathaniel’s grandfather, the one he was named after, was Nathaniel Jeffers of Virginia. The elder Nathaniel was enumerated in the 1850 Alabama census as a wagoner. This means he drove wagons and hauled freight for a living. So Nathaniel, the younger, came by his desire to operate wagons and haul freight, school kids in this case, naturally. But Nathaniel was much more than just the man with the “Hoodlum Wagon” in Sabine, San Augustine and Jasper Counties >> ~~~~~ >> >> The much more likely bus line is Jefferson Lines, founded in 1919 and still headquartered in Minneapolis, Minnesota: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Lines >> >> The more famous bus line out of Minnesota, now nationwide (and owned by someone else with the name retained, plus diversified lines with different names for charter services) is Greyhound Lines, founded in Hibbing, St. Louis County, Minnesota in 1914. >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greyhound_Lines >> >> Don't know if this info will help at all, but hope so. >> >> Beste, >> Bev >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> >> To: norway@rootsweb.com >> Cc: >> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 6:58 PM >> Subject: [NOR] Herbert Norman Anderson - born Mower Co., MN 1887 - prisoner 1930 - later turkey rancher in Colorado? >> >> Dear Listers! >> >> A brother of Edward Anderson (1877-1941) of Mower Co., MN and Arapahoe Co., CO also gives me considerable "head ache": >> >> Herbert Norman ANDERSON (christened as Herbert Andrew Anderson!) >> son of Erick Anderson (Sweden) and Ollegaard "Olga" Pederson (Norway) >> parents always residing in the city of Austin, Mower Co., MN >> >> was born July 10, 1887 in Mower Co., MN >> >> was in 1917 (WW1 draft) a single painter a Mason City, Cerro Gordo Co., IA >> >> was in 1920 (census) a single restaurant cook in Austin, Mower Co., MN >> >> was in 1930 (census) a prisoner at the Mower Co., MN jail in Austin, Mower Co., MN >> >> According to family (descending from siblings of Herbert's in Austin, MN Herbert went "in and out" of St. Peter State Hospital, but one of the Anderson brothers shall have ended up as a bus driver for the Jeffers(on) bus line in Alabama, and since Edward apparently was in Colorado, it must have been Herbert who drove the bus(?), and maybe he was also a turkey rancher at Ft. Morgan, Morgan Co., CO!?? Relatives in MN believe he never married, and they are pretty sure he died before 1940!? >> >> I have been unable to find this gentleman in any records after 1930! >> >> Could there be newspaper notices on him due to his "jail visit" in 1930? >> >> Any suggestions, as far as Herbert N. Anderson's destiny is concerned, will be more than welcome! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >

Dear Annette and other Listers! Thank you very much, Annette for referring Lillian O'Halloran's 1st marriage. Since her 2nd marriage to Harry Anderson doesn't seem to be anywhere to be found online, I decided this afternoon to call an old friend at Northwood, IA, and a couple of hours later I received the marriage information: Harry and Lillian were married at Northwood, IA on Jan. 31, 1941. This information solves my problem! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On May 31, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Annette Bowen via wrote: > Well, familysearch has her first marriage, but I don't see her second one. > > Name: Vernon William Young > Titles and Terms: > Event Type: Marriage > Event Date: 31 Oct 1925 > Event Place: , Cerro Gordo, Iowa, United States > Age: 28 > Birth Year (Estimated): > Birthplace: > Father's Name: George W Young > Father's Titles and Terms: > Mother's Name: > Mother's Titles and Terms: > Spouse's Name: Lillian Maurice O'Halloran > Spouse's Titles and Terms: > Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1899 > Spouse's Birthplace: > Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Bernard O'Halloran > Spouse's Father's Titles and Terms: > Spouse's Mother's Name: Mary Darrow > Spouse's Mother's Titles and Terms: > Reference ID: > GS Film Number: 001955533 > Digital Folder Number: 004266907 > > Citing this Record: > "Iowa, County Marriages, 1838-1934," index, FamilySearch ( > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KLWF-JBF : accessed 31 May 2015), > Vernon William Young and Lillian Maurice O'Halloran, 31 Oct 1925; citing , > Cerro Gordo, Iowa, United States, county courthouses, Iowa. > > > She and her parents were in Mower co., MN in 1905 & 1910. > > On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> Dear Listers! >> >> I have several times in the past experienced difficulties obtaining >> information from various courthouses in Iowa, so I am sending this question >> to the list, with a hope that someone can help me, either by checking the >> courthouse records at Northwood, IA, or maybe by finding a newspaper >> announcement? >> >> Harry Alfred ANDERSON, born in Mower Co., MN Feb. 23, 1889 and >> Lillian Maurice YOUNG, nee O'HALLORAN, born in Palo Alto Co., IA Aug. 13, >> 1896 >> >> shall, according to Harry's obituary from 1961, have been married at >> Northwood, Worth Co., IA in the year 1940. >> >> I would so much like to know the EXACT DATE of this marriage? >> >> Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >>

Hei, Edward. First confirming what you found on the first two children born to HANNA KARLSDATTER, FamilySearch gives us the following: Adolfine Petrina Blix Valberg, born 01 September / baptized 19 October 1879 in Borge, Nordland; father is Adolf Blix Valberg and mother is Hanna Karlsdatter Vikjord. LAST ENTRY / #64 (names of witnesses are not clear to me): Nordland, Borge, Parish register (official) nr. 880A06 (1869-1887), Birth and baptism records 1879, page 84. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6651&idx_id=6651&uid=ny&idx_side=-87 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070209660463.jpg Signe Karlotte Larssen Henningsnæs <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWXL-BJ3>, born 29 June / baptized 06 August 1882 in Borge, Nordland; father is Jonas Larsen Henningsnæs <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWXL-BJ3> and mother is Hanna Karlsdatter Vikjord. ENTRY #28 (again, witnesses are not clear to me): Nordland, Borge, Parish register (official) nr. 880A06 (1869-1887), Birth and baptism records 1882, page 105. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6651&idx_id=6651&uid=ny&idx_side=-109 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070209660485.jpg Gotta run... will do some more searching when I return. Clark in Japan On 03-Jun-15 02:54 PM, EDWARD A SCRIVEN via wrote: > I am searching for the birth and parents of Hanna Edea Karlsdatter. She is the mother of an illegitimate daughter Adolfine Petrine BLIX, born 1 September 1879 in Vikjord, Nordland, and christened in Borge, Nordland, 19 October 1879. She also had another illegitimate child with a different man in Vikjord in 1882. Neither entry gives a clue about her birth, and she is only named Hanna Karlsdatter in both entries. > Using census records I have found in 1865 a Hanna Edea Karlsdatter in Vikjord in Borge as a 10 year old serving girl in the home of Hans Jakobsen. In 1875 there is a Hanna Carlsen in Valberg in Borge in the home of Peder Ellingsen. It says she was born 1856 in Valberg B and is a maid. There is a Hendrikke Leonora Eddia Carlsdatter born in Kartfjord 23 June 1856 and christened in Valberg (also listed on Borge parish) 10 August 1856, daughter of Carl Olsen and Dorthea Elliasdatter. She is confirmed in 1875 I believe it was. There is a Hanna Karlsdatter married to Petter Martinussen on the 1910 census in Steinbakken in Borge born 24 Jun 1855 in Borge. That is off by a year and a day for the Hendrikke born in Kartfjord, and she has the middle name of Eddia when she was christened similar to the Edea on the 1865 Census mentioned. I can't decide which ones might be correct for the Hanna Karlsdatter I am seeking. > Any other possibilities, insights, or suggestions? > Edward A. Scriven

I'm searching for Alice Larson, b. about 1893 to Andrew and Susie (Thompson) Larson we think in Fosston, MN. The family lived in Williston, ND for some years. We think Alice married a Ray Miller, based on citing a Mrs. Ray Miller, sister, in the death notice of both her sister in 1930 and her mother in 1935, both times in Royal Iowa. Any tips to find where Alice is buried, and names of her children would be much appreciated. Thank you! Linda

I think this is the tombstone of your Hanna: http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/bilde.php?id=1011233 Lisbeth 2015-06-03 7:54 GMT+02:00 EDWARD A SCRIVEN via <norway@rootsweb.com>: > I am searching for the birth and parents of Hanna Edea Karlsdatter. She > is the mother of an illegitimate daughter Adolfine Petrine BLIX, born 1 > September 1879 in Vikjord, Nordland, and christened in Borge, Nordland, 19 > October 1879. She also had another illegitimate child with a different man > in Vikjord in 1882. Neither entry gives a clue about her birth, and she is > only named Hanna Karlsdatter in both entries. > Using census records I have found in 1865 a Hanna Edea Karlsdatter in > Vikjord in Borge as a 10 year old serving girl in the home of Hans > Jakobsen. In 1875 there is a Hanna Carlsen in Valberg in Borge in the home > of Peder Ellingsen. It says she was born 1856 in Valberg B and is a maid. > There is a Hendrikke Leonora Eddia Carlsdatter born in Kartfjord 23 June > 1856 and christened in Valberg (also listed on Borge parish) 10 August > 1856, daughter of Carl Olsen and Dorthea Elliasdatter. She is confirmed in > 1875 I believe it was. There is a Hanna Karlsdatter married to Petter > Martinussen on the 1910 census in Steinbakken in Borge born 24 Jun 1855 in > Borge. That is off by a year and a day for the Hendrikke born in > Kartfjord, and she has the middle name of Eddia when she was christened > similar to the Edea on the 1865 Census mentioned. I can't decide which > ones might be correct for the Hanna Karlsdatter I am seeking. > Any other possibilities, insights, or suggestions? > Edward A. Scriven > Layton, Utah > Always be Happy!! > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Whow! Congratulations! It was an interesting question. Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Lisbeth Dyrnes via Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 12:05 PM To: EDWARD A SCRIVEN ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Can't find a birth or even a confirmation If you og to the pages after Hannas record in census 1891 you will find her two youngest kids. If you og to the page before Hanna you will find Dorthea Eliasdtr which seems to be her mother - so my best Guess is that the Hendrikke Leonora Eddia born June 23, 1856 to Carl Olsen and Dorthea Eliasdtr is Your Hanna. Why the name is changed from Hendrikke to Hanna is not easy to know.. Hanna Karlsdatter With Petter Martinussen in census 1910 seems to be the same Hanna - at least she has Hildor born 1890 With her -and also two kids With her husband. marriage of Petter and Hendrikke in 1891 says that they call her Hanna - so the mystery is solved :-) *Kildeinformasjon:* Nordland fylke, Valberg i Borge, Klokkerbok nr. 884C03 (1888-1926), Ekteviede 1890-1891, side 100. *Permanent sidelenke:* http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=3891&idx_id=3891&uid=ny&idx_side=-71 *Permanent bildelenke:* http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060524100426.jpg 2015-06-03 7:54 GMT+02:00 EDWARD A SCRIVEN via <norway@rootsweb.com>: > I am searching for the birth and parents of Hanna Edea Karlsdatter. She > is the mother of an illegitimate daughter Adolfine Petrine BLIX, born 1 > September 1879 in Vikjord, Nordland, and christened in Borge, Nordland, 19 > October 1879. She also had another illegitimate child with a different > man > in Vikjord in 1882. Neither entry gives a clue about her birth, and she is > only named Hanna Karlsdatter in both entries. > Using census records I have found in 1865 a Hanna Edea Karlsdatter in > Vikjord in Borge as a 10 year old serving girl in the home of Hans > Jakobsen. In 1875 there is a Hanna Carlsen in Valberg in Borge in the > home > of Peder Ellingsen. It says she was born 1856 in Valberg B and is a maid. > There is a Hendrikke Leonora Eddia Carlsdatter born in Kartfjord 23 June > 1856 and christened in Valberg (also listed on Borge parish) 10 August > 1856, daughter of Carl Olsen and Dorthea Elliasdatter. She is confirmed > in > 1875 I believe it was. There is a Hanna Karlsdatter married to Petter > Martinussen on the 1910 census in Steinbakken in Borge born 24 Jun 1855 in > Borge. That is off by a year and a day for the Hendrikke born in > Kartfjord, and she has the middle name of Eddia when she was christened > similar to the Edea on the 1865 Census mentioned. I can't decide which > ones might be correct for the Hanna Karlsdatter I am seeking. > Any other possibilities, insights, or suggestions? > Edward A. Scriven > Layton, Utah > Always be Happy!! > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you og to the pages after Hannas record in census 1891 you will find her two youngest kids. If you og to the page before Hanna you will find Dorthea Eliasdtr which seems to be her mother - so my best Guess is that the Hendrikke Leonora Eddia born June 23, 1856 to Carl Olsen and Dorthea Eliasdtr is Your Hanna. Why the name is changed from Hendrikke to Hanna is not easy to know.. Hanna Karlsdatter With Petter Martinussen in census 1910 seems to be the same Hanna - at least she has Hildor born 1890 With her -and also two kids With her husband. marriage of Petter and Hendrikke in 1891 says that they call her Hanna - so the mystery is solved :-) *Kildeinformasjon:* Nordland fylke, Valberg i Borge, Klokkerbok nr. 884C03 (1888-1926), Ekteviede 1890-1891, side 100. *Permanent sidelenke:* http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=3891&idx_id=3891&uid=ny&idx_side=-71 *Permanent bildelenke:* http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060524100426.jpg 2015-06-03 7:54 GMT+02:00 EDWARD A SCRIVEN via <norway@rootsweb.com>: > I am searching for the birth and parents of Hanna Edea Karlsdatter. She > is the mother of an illegitimate daughter Adolfine Petrine BLIX, born 1 > September 1879 in Vikjord, Nordland, and christened in Borge, Nordland, 19 > October 1879. She also had another illegitimate child with a different man > in Vikjord in 1882. Neither entry gives a clue about her birth, and she is > only named Hanna Karlsdatter in both entries. > Using census records I have found in 1865 a Hanna Edea Karlsdatter in > Vikjord in Borge as a 10 year old serving girl in the home of Hans > Jakobsen. In 1875 there is a Hanna Carlsen in Valberg in Borge in the home > of Peder Ellingsen. It says she was born 1856 in Valberg B and is a maid. > There is a Hendrikke Leonora Eddia Carlsdatter born in Kartfjord 23 June > 1856 and christened in Valberg (also listed on Borge parish) 10 August > 1856, daughter of Carl Olsen and Dorthea Elliasdatter. She is confirmed in > 1875 I believe it was. There is a Hanna Karlsdatter married to Petter > Martinussen on the 1910 census in Steinbakken in Borge born 24 Jun 1855 in > Borge. That is off by a year and a day for the Hendrikke born in > Kartfjord, and she has the middle name of Eddia when she was christened > similar to the Edea on the 1865 Census mentioned. I can't decide which > ones might be correct for the Hanna Karlsdatter I am seeking. > Any other possibilities, insights, or suggestions? > Edward A. Scriven > Layton, Utah > Always be Happy!! > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here is Hanna on census 1891 http://arkivverket.no/URN:db_read/ft/53176/4646/?size=bigger&mode=0 Lisbeth 2015-06-03 7:54 GMT+02:00 EDWARD A SCRIVEN via <norway@rootsweb.com>: > I am searching for the birth and parents of Hanna Edea Karlsdatter. She > is the mother of an illegitimate daughter Adolfine Petrine BLIX, born 1 > September 1879 in Vikjord, Nordland, and christened in Borge, Nordland, 19 > October 1879. She also had another illegitimate child with a different man > in Vikjord in 1882. Neither entry gives a clue about her birth, and she is > only named Hanna Karlsdatter in both entries. > Using census records I have found in 1865 a Hanna Edea Karlsdatter in > Vikjord in Borge as a 10 year old serving girl in the home of Hans > Jakobsen. In 1875 there is a Hanna Carlsen in Valberg in Borge in the home > of Peder Ellingsen. It says she was born 1856 in Valberg B and is a maid. > There is a Hendrikke Leonora Eddia Carlsdatter born in Kartfjord 23 June > 1856 and christened in Valberg (also listed on Borge parish) 10 August > 1856, daughter of Carl Olsen and Dorthea Elliasdatter. She is confirmed in > 1875 I believe it was. There is a Hanna Karlsdatter married to Petter > Martinussen on the 1910 census in Steinbakken in Borge born 24 Jun 1855 in > Borge. That is off by a year and a day for the Hendrikke born in > Kartfjord, and she has the middle name of Eddia when she was christened > similar to the Edea on the 1865 Census mentioned. I can't decide which > ones might be correct for the Hanna Karlsdatter I am seeking. > Any other possibilities, insights, or suggestions? > Edward A. Scriven > Layton, Utah > Always be Happy!! > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

She also got a Third child out of wedlock in 1890: Hildor Leonhard *Kildeinformasjon:* Nordland fylke, Valberg i Borge, Klokkerbok nr. 884C03 (1888-1926), Fødte og døpte 1890, side 13. *Permanent sidelenke:* http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=3891&idx_id=3891&uid=ny&idx_side=-12 *Permanent bildelenke:* http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060524100367.jpg Lisbeth 2015-06-03 7:54 GMT+02:00 EDWARD A SCRIVEN via <norway@rootsweb.com>: > I am searching for the birth and parents of Hanna Edea Karlsdatter. She > is the mother of an illegitimate daughter Adolfine Petrine BLIX, born 1 > September 1879 in Vikjord, Nordland, and christened in Borge, Nordland, 19 > October 1879. She also had another illegitimate child with a different man > in Vikjord in 1882. Neither entry gives a clue about her birth, and she is > only named Hanna Karlsdatter in both entries. > Using census records I have found in 1865 a Hanna Edea Karlsdatter in > Vikjord in Borge as a 10 year old serving girl in the home of Hans > Jakobsen. In 1875 there is a Hanna Carlsen in Valberg in Borge in the home > of Peder Ellingsen. It says she was born 1856 in Valberg B and is a maid. > There is a Hendrikke Leonora Eddia Carlsdatter born in Kartfjord 23 June > 1856 and christened in Valberg (also listed on Borge parish) 10 August > 1856, daughter of Carl Olsen and Dorthea Elliasdatter. She is confirmed in > 1875 I believe it was. There is a Hanna Karlsdatter married to Petter > Martinussen on the 1910 census in Steinbakken in Borge born 24 Jun 1855 in > Borge. That is off by a year and a day for the Hendrikke born in > Kartfjord, and she has the middle name of Eddia when she was christened > similar to the Edea on the 1865 Census mentioned. I can't decide which > ones might be correct for the Hanna Karlsdatter I am seeking. > Any other possibilities, insights, or suggestions? > Edward A. Scriven > Layton, Utah > Always be Happy!! > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Edward, Where did you get the name Hanna Edea? Was Edea added somewhere in a record? Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: C&M Pederson via Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 9:30 AM To: EDWARD A SCRIVEN ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Can't find a birth or even a confirmation Hei, Edward. First confirming what you found on the first two children born to HANNA KARLSDATTER, FamilySearch gives us the following: Adolfine Petrina Blix Valberg, born 01 September / baptized 19 October 1879 in Borge, Nordland; father is Adolf Blix Valberg and mother is Hanna Karlsdatter Vikjord. LAST ENTRY / #64 (names of witnesses are not clear to me): Nordland, Borge, Parish register (official) nr. 880A06 (1869-1887), Birth and baptism records 1879, page 84. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6651&idx_id=6651&uid=ny&idx_side=-87 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070209660463.jpg Signe Karlotte Larssen Henningsnæs <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWXL-BJ3>, born 29 June / baptized 06 August 1882 in Borge, Nordland; father is Jonas Larsen Henningsnæs <https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWXL-BJ3> and mother is Hanna Karlsdatter Vikjord. ENTRY #28 (again, witnesses are not clear to me): Nordland, Borge, Parish register (official) nr. 880A06 (1869-1887), Birth and baptism records 1882, page 105. http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6651&idx_id=6651&uid=ny&idx_side=-109 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070209660485.jpg Gotta run... will do some more searching when I return. Clark in Japan On 03-Jun-15 02:54 PM, EDWARD A SCRIVEN via wrote: > I am searching for the birth and parents of Hanna Edea Karlsdatter. She > is the mother of an illegitimate daughter Adolfine Petrine BLIX, born 1 > September 1879 in Vikjord, Nordland, and christened in Borge, Nordland, 19 > October 1879. She also had another illegitimate child with a different > man in Vikjord in 1882. Neither entry gives a clue about her birth, and > she is only named Hanna Karlsdatter in both entries. > Using census records I have found in 1865 a Hanna Edea Karlsdatter in > Vikjord in Borge as a 10 year old serving girl in the home of Hans > Jakobsen. In 1875 there is a Hanna Carlsen in Valberg in Borge in the > home of Peder Ellingsen. It says she was born 1856 in Valberg B and is a > maid. There is a Hendrikke Leonora Eddia Carlsdatter born in Kartfjord 23 > June 1856 and christened in Valberg (also listed on Borge parish) 10 > August 1856, daughter of Carl Olsen and Dorthea Elliasdatter. She is > confirmed in 1875 I believe it was. There is a Hanna Karlsdatter married > to Petter Martinussen on the 1910 census in Steinbakken in Borge born 24 > Jun 1855 in Borge. That is off by a year and a day for the Hendrikke born > in Kartfjord, and she has the middle name of Eddia when she was christened > similar to the Edea on the 1865 Census mentioned. I can't decide which > ones might be correct for the Hanna Karlsdatter I am seeking. > Any other possibilities, insights, or suggestions? > Edward A. Scriven

Newspapers.com has Canadian newspapers. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:19 PM, Garth Ulrich via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Are there any list members from British Columbia? I am wondering how I > might > search for/obtain a 1979 obit from Terrace. > > > Thanks, > > Garth > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp:// > archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Earl   Would you be able to help me please? I'm searching for obituaries, and birth of children of the following family members:   Blanch (Chapman) Dahl (we also saw it spelled Dahle) b. 1912 or 1913 in Moose Jaw Sask, d. 2004 in BC Buried Golden Cem, Golden, BC husband Norman Dahl (dahle) b. 1911 and d. 1994   I tried searching the site you gave but it came up at no obituaries.   Any further tips or websites would be much appreciated.   Thank you.   Linda           On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 02:24:36 -0700, Earl Sande via wrote: Hello, Garth : have you tried the newspaper index ? http://www.terracestandard.com/obituaries/ Also check the BC Genealogical Society (located in Nanaimo) Hopefully, you also know that our BC Archives has a search of official documents (although not obituaries). Earl On 02/06/2015 8:19 PM, Garth Ulrich via wrote: > Are there any list members from British Columbia? I am wondering how I might > search for/obtain a 1979 obit from Terrace. > > > Thanks, > > Garth > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Garth : have you tried the newspaper index ? http://www.terracestandard.com/obituaries/ Also check the BC Genealogical Society (located in Nanaimo) Hopefully, you also know that our BC Archives has a search of official documents (although not obituaries). Earl On 02/06/2015 8:19 PM, Garth Ulrich via wrote: > Are there any list members from British Columbia? I am wondering how I might > search for/obtain a 1979 obit from Terrace. > > > Thanks, > > Garth > > > Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message