Tools Ancestry  Jens Hermundsen (Kins) 1829–1901 Birth 26 SEPT 1829 • Hafslo Sogn Og Fjordane Norway Death 1901 • Nelson, Buffalo, Wisconsin, United States LifeStory Facts Gallery Navigation Research Tabs Skip to Sources Show Facts Name and gender Birth 26 Sept 1829 • Hafslo Sogn Og Fjordane Norway 4 Sources 1829 (AGE) Marriage 03 May 1853 • Hafslo Sogn Og Fjordane Norway  Martha Pedersdatter (1815–) 1853 23 Arrival 1854 1 Source 1854 25 Residence 1860 • Nelson, Buffalo, Wisconsin, United States 1 Source 1860 31 Residence 1870 • Nelson, Buffalo, Wisconsin, United States 1 Source 1870 41 Residence 1880 • Nelson, Buffalo, Wisconsin, United States 1 Source 1880 51 View Residence 1900 • Dover, Mabel, Bartley & Helena Townships, Griggs, North Dakota 1 Source 1900 71 Death 1901 • Nelson, Buffalo, Wisconsin, United States 1901 72 Skip to Family Sources Ancestry Sources View Source 1860 United States Federal Census View Source 1870 United States Federal Census View Source 1880 United States Federal Census View Source 1900 United States Federal Census View Source U.S. General Land Office Records, 1796-1907  Wisconsin, Homestead and Cash Entry Patents, Pre-1908 Skip to Facts Family Parents  Hermund Jensen 1802–1855  Martha Hermundsatter 1800– Siblings Spouse & Children  Martha Pedersdatter 1815–  Henry Peter Kins 1859– Comments Close Comments Support Center Ancestry Blog Site Map Gift Memberships Careers Visit our other sites:United StatesUnited KingdomCanada (English)Canada (Français)AustraliaDeutschlandItaliaFranceSverigeMéxicoAncestry CorporateAncestry.ie CorporateFamilyTreeMaker.comFold3.comMyCanvas.comNewspapers.comProGenealogists.comRootsWeb.com ·© 1997-2017 Ancestry·Corporate Information·Privacy·Terms and Conditions -----Original Message----- From: Lars E. Oyane Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 10:32 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NOR] Jens and Martha Kins(erdahl) - from Sogn, Norway to Griggs Co., ND and Daniels Co., MT Dear Listers! I have tried for many years to figure out what happened to this couple in the US: Jens Hermundson Kinserdahl, born in Hafslo parish, Luster Co., Norway Sep. 26, 1829, married in Hafslo May 3, 1853 to Martha Pedersdotter Skagen, born in Luster Co., Norway March 1815. They emigrated in 1854, and under the names of Jens and Martha KINS they were pioneers in Buffalo Co., WI, moving in 1884 to a farm in Bartley township near Hannaford, Griggs Co., ND. Martha supposedly died in Griggs Co., ND prior to 1898, and in 1902 Jens is thought to have moved on with their only son and his family to a farm near Whitetail, Valley Co., MT, from 1913 a part of Sheridan Co., MT and from 1920 part of Daniels Co., MT. His date and place of death are unknown, but I presume prior to 1910, since he is nowhere to be found in the 1910 census! The son was Henry Peter aka Peter Kins (1859-1917), married in Griggs Co., ND July 23, 1890 to Betsey C. Gunderson (1858-1933), also farming in Bartley township, Griggs Co., ND until 1902 when they homesteaded at Whitetail, MT. Any information that can be found in regard to Jens and Martha and their deaths would be more than welcome! Thanks a million in advance! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers! I have tried for many years to figure out what happened to this couple in the US: Jens Hermundson Kinserdahl, born in Hafslo parish, Luster Co., Norway Sep. 26, 1829, married in Hafslo May 3, 1853 to Martha Pedersdotter Skagen, born in Luster Co., Norway March 1815. They emigrated in 1854, and under the names of Jens and Martha KINS they were pioneers in Buffalo Co., WI, moving in 1884 to a farm in Bartley township near Hannaford, Griggs Co., ND. Martha supposedly died in Griggs Co., ND prior to 1898, and in 1902 Jens is thought to have moved on with their only son and his family to a farm near Whitetail, Valley Co., MT, from 1913 a part of Sheridan Co., MT and from 1920 part of Daniels Co., MT. His date and place of death are unknown, but I presume prior to 1910, since he is nowhere to be found in the 1910 census! The son was Henry Peter aka Peter Kins (1859-1917), married in Griggs Co., ND July 23, 1890 to Betsey C. Gunderson (1858-1933), also farming in Bartley township, Griggs Co., ND until 1902 when they homesteaded at Whitetail, MT. Any information that can be found in regard to Jens and Martha and their deaths would be more than welcome! Thanks a million in advance! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Dear Listers! For years I have tried to figure out what happened to this young man: Hans Pederson Mjelva, born at Kinserdal in Hafslo parish, Luster Co., Norway Sep. 29, 1839, moved in 1844 with his parents to the Mjelva in Grytten Co., Norway. He lived for a couple of years in Kristiansund, Norway, but then, in the 1865 census, under his parents on the Mjelva farm it says: «Hans Pedersen (Mjelva), aged 27, born Luster, their son, single, military is gone to America» It doesn’t say specifically when he emigrated, but it is most likely in 1865. Maybe he left to fight in the Civil War, but the War was about over by the time he arrived? I have found absolutely no trace of this man in American records. He was the only child in this family who ever emigrated, and I have no idea where to look for him!? He did have several uncles on both sides who were among the first Norwegian settlers in Buffalo Co., WI, but I can find no sign of Hans in that neighborhood! Any suggestions as to what may have become of Hans in America, would be most welcome and appreciated! Thanks a million in advance! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Apparently most of Anton's siblings did emigrate. I found the Find-A-Grave link for him and Oline is listed as dying in Cass Co., ND, his parents and siblings are listed. [I knew the Thorstad name was familiar! One of them lived in Clearwater County, Minnesota, next to where I was born and raised in Polk County.] https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=38078418 Bev On 5/4/2017 12:59 PM, Annette Bowen wrote: > Bev, > I have no idea if it is the mother of Inga, but I noticed an Ingeborg > Olsen, also going to Menomonie Wis., at the bottom of the page with > the baby - though she was more than 3 years older than Anton & > unmarried, so maybe just the name in common. > 49434 Oslo 1690 1879 Mai 30 Ingeborg Olsen f u 28 øier > Menomonie Wis. 6966 Norge Betalt Hero > > Did the sister also immigrate? Have you found them entering the US or > Canada? They may have gone to Wisconsin first and then moved to > Dakota. Did they get counted in the 1880 census? > >

I considered that Ingeborg, but she's unmarried and seven years older than Anton. Anton's Ingeborg was only three years older than him. I do not know if Anton's sister Oline emigrated or not. If she did, I don't recall seeing her name in the utflytting records, and I can't find Anton, Ingeborg, or Inga in the utflytting records either (I only looked four times, but it's still possible I missed their names since the penmanship is pretty bad). It's possible that Oline is the one who went to Menomonie and her age is entered wrong, and whoever was taking information for the passenger list mixed Ingeborg (and got age wrong) with Oline (and got her age only slightly wrong, as well as her marital status, which leaves baby Inga tied to the wrong person. Anton and Oline are listed as New York for a destination. That means they most likely would have traveled overland to their destination(s). I don't have Ancestry so I don't know about arrival lists, or if passenger lists are one and the same as the arrival lists. 1880 US Census has Anton, Ingeborg, and Inga in at Range 51 (Logan Township), Traill County, Dakota Territory, which is the same location as the 1900 US census. I'm about 99% sure I have the right people, but one wrong name and age (it should be Ingeborg at age 24 (her birthday was not until Nov when she turned 25), not Oline at age 17 (she would have turned only 16 in 1879) - Oline is listed as age 3, Anton age 9 in the 1865 census, 1875 census has Oline born in 1863). Reasonably certain doesn't mean absolutely sure, so I guess I'm looking for reassurance. Beste, Bev On 5/4/2017 12:59 PM, Annette Bowen wrote: > Bev, > I have no idea if it is the mother of Inga, but I noticed an Ingeborg > Olsen, also going to Menomonie Wis., at the bottom of the page with > the baby - though she was more than 3 years older than Anton & > unmarried, so maybe just the name in common. > 49434 Oslo 1690 1879 Mai 30 Ingeborg Olsen f u 28 øier > Menomonie Wis. 6966 Norge Betalt Hero > > Did the sister also immigrate? Have you found them entering the US or > Canada? They may have gone to Wisconsin first and then moved to > Dakota. Did they get counted in the 1880 census? > > > >

Bev, I have no idea if it is the mother of Inga, but I noticed an Ingeborg Olsen, also going to Menomonie Wis., at the bottom of the page with the baby - though she was more than 3 years older than Anton & unmarried, so maybe just the name in common. 49434 Oslo 1690 1879 Mai 30 Ingeborg Olsen f u 28 øier Menomonie Wis. 6966 Norge Betalt Hero Did the sister also immigrate? Have you found them entering the US or Canada? They may have gone to Wisconsin first and then moved to Dakota. Did they get counted in the 1880 census? <div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br /> <table style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;"> <tr> <td style="width: 55px; padding-top: 13px;"><a href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" target="_blank"><img src="https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;" /></a></td> <td style="width: 470px; padding-top: 12px; color: #41424e; font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 18px;">Virus-free. <a href="http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avg.com</a> </td> </tr> </table><a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" height="1"></a></div> On 5/4/17, Bev Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: > Has anyone ever encountered something like this? > > Anton and Ingeborg were married 25 March 1879, their daughter, Inga > Antonsdatter, was born 12 April 1879. The passenger list for 30 May > 1879 has Anton, then his sister's name and age (even showing her > married!) as the next entry, destination New York for each, and nowhere > close to her parents is baby Inga Antonsdatter, destination Menomonie > Wisconsin. Worse: I can't find an utflytting record for them. If it's > there, I've missed it for lack of sleep (and the handwriting is really bad). > > Anton did, in fact, have a younger sister named Oline who was about the > right age for the emigration list. I'm wondering if tickets were > purchased for Anton and Oline originally, but then Anton and Ingeborg > got married and they didn't change the name and age for Oline on > Ingeborg's ticket (Ingeborg was three years older than Anton). Inga's > ticket would then have been an after-thought and purchased at the last > minute, which may account for why she ended up elsewhere on the > passenger list. > > I know these should be the correct people, and can definitively say the > record for Anton and Inga are valid for sure - except the family didn't > go to Wisconsin; they went to Dakota Territory where they were living in > Traill County by the 1900 US census. The 1900 US census info has Anton, > Ingeborg, and Inga all arriving in the US in 1879. > > Emigranter fra Oslo 1867-1930 gammel > http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=49189&merk=49189#ovre > http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=49430&merk=49430#ovre > Harbour No. Year Month Day Given name Last > name Sex Occupation Year of birth Residence > Destination Remarks Foreigner Line > 49189 Oslo 1548A 1879 Mai 30 Anton Larsen > Thorstad m G Arbeider 21 øier New York 6720 > Norge Betalt Hero > 49190 Oslo 1548B 1879 Mai 30 Oline Larsen > Thorstad f G 17 øier New York 6721 Norge > Hero > 49430 Oslo 1686 1879 Mai 30 Inga Antonsdatter > f u 2/12 åR øier Menomonie Wis. 6962 > Norge 9,12 Hero > > Let me know what you think. > > Thanks! > > Bev > > > > > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Both seems to be subfarms of https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/bosted_land/bf01038063003683 Thorstad

Has anyone ever encountered something like this? Anton and Ingeborg were married 25 March 1879, their daughter, Inga Antonsdatter, was born 12 April 1879. The passenger list for 30 May 1879 has Anton, then his sister's name and age (even showing her married!) as the next entry, destination New York for each, and nowhere close to her parents is baby Inga Antonsdatter, destination Menomonie Wisconsin. Worse: I can't find an utflytting record for them. If it's there, I've missed it for lack of sleep (and the handwriting is really bad). Anton did, in fact, have a younger sister named Oline who was about the right age for the emigration list. I'm wondering if tickets were purchased for Anton and Oline originally, but then Anton and Ingeborg got married and they didn't change the name and age for Oline on Ingeborg's ticket (Ingeborg was three years older than Anton). Inga's ticket would then have been an after-thought and purchased at the last minute, which may account for why she ended up elsewhere on the passenger list. I know these should be the correct people, and can definitively say the record for Anton and Inga are valid for sure - except the family didn't go to Wisconsin; they went to Dakota Territory where they were living in Traill County by the 1900 US census. The 1900 US census info has Anton, Ingeborg, and Inga all arriving in the US in 1879. Emigranter fra Oslo 1867-1930 gammel http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=49189&merk=49189#ovre http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=49430&merk=49430#ovre Harbour No. Year Month Day Given name Last name Sex Occupation Year of birth Residence Destination Remarks Foreigner Line 49189 Oslo 1548A 1879 Mai 30 Anton Larsen Thorstad m G Arbeider 21 øier New York 6720 Norge Betalt Hero 49190 Oslo 1548B 1879 Mai 30 Oline Larsen Thorstad f G 17 øier New York 6721 Norge Hero 49430 Oslo 1686 1879 Mai 30 Inga Antonsdatter f u 2/12 åR øier Menomonie Wis. 6962 Norge 9,12 Hero Let me know what you think. Thanks! Bev

Looking at Trette in Øyer parish here: http://norwayparishes.com/ I find a farm named Torstad, so I guess that Borgerud and Torstadhagen are subfarms to main farm Thorstad. But need to be checked further Halvor in Lier -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne av Bev Anderson Sendt: torsdag 4. mai 2017 08.53 Til: Norway List <[email protected]> Emne: [NOR] Is this a sub-farm? http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=f60521&gardpostnr=497&personpostnr=2898&merk=2898#ovre https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/bosted_land/bf01038063003831 For the Borkerud farm there is this note: For Pladsene Borkeruds og Thorstadhagens Vedkommende, se Anm. ved Løbe No. 124 Does that mean Borkerud is a sub-farm of Thorstadhagens? Anton adopted the surname Thorstad even before he got to America since he's listed with the name in the emigration record. This is a twig far out on my family tree. Mange Takk! Bev Norwaylist Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Since he was a husmand (cotter) it is a sub farm, a small place beloging to a bigger farm. It was quite normal that they took the farm name as surname when emigrating, Hans Den 04.05.2017 08:53, skrev Bev Anderson: > http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=f60521&gardpostnr=497&personpostnr=2898&merk=2898#ovre > > https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/bosted_land/bf01038063003831 > > > For the Borkerud farm there is this note: For Pladsene Borkeruds og > Thorstadhagens Vedkommende, se Anm. ved Løbe No. 124 > > Does that mean Borkerud is a sub-farm of Thorstadhagens? > > Anton adopted the surname Thorstad even before he got to America since > he's listed with the name in the emigration record. This is a twig > far out on my family tree. > > Mange Takk! > > Bev > > > > > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Okay, I think I figured it out. Ingeborg was residing at Stavslibakken (?) when they were married. A very few weeks later on April 12 when their daughter Inga Antonsdatter was born, the copy of the birth/baptism record has Anton clearly living at Simensgaard and Ingeborg living at Stavseie. Thanks! Bev On 5/4/2017 5:02 AM, Bev Anderson wrote: > One more question, I'll finish the notes and info, and then I'm going > to send the images and info off to the person who asked about this > family out on the twig of my family tree and try to get some sleep. :-) > > I have birth/confirmation records for both Anton Larssen and Ingeborg > Olsdatter. Between the original marriage record (eek! Almost > unreadable!) and the copy of their marriage record, I have figured out > almost all of the info. > > Anton's location of birth is listed as Thorstadeie, and his father's > residence lists the 1865 census names for both farms, so that solves > the under/sub-farm question. > > I still need the location where Ingeborg was listed as an Inderst, and > the word/occupation of both fathers (her father's is listed as ditto) > which is different for both of them from the birth records. In the > original copy of the marriage record it looks like Pladsmand.......? > (Archaic for husmann, according to Otto's Dictionary.) If I got that > one correct, then I just need the name of the place where Ingeborg was > listed as Inderst. > > Groom: Anton Larssen, born at Thorstadeie (I'm guessing it was > probably technically at Borkerud where they were living in 1865). > Bride: Ingeborg Olsdatter, born at Mossveen. > > Record #4 - Marriage Record Original: > https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20060426020182 > > Record #4 - Marriage Record Copy: > https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070131650211 > > Mange Takk! > > Bev > > > > > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mange Takk, Alf! :-) Yes, that's what I was thinking, too, once I looked at the map and thought about it for a while. https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/bosted_land/bf01038063003831 This is the family I was looking at, the correct people are there. Anton was the one who emigrated with his wife and new baby daughter in May, 1879. His wife's family lived at Mossveen https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/bosted_land/bf01038063003335 Ingeborg's birth record says she was born at Mo, so I'm guessing Mossveen is perhaps a sub-farm of Mo. I found Torstad (Thorstad) and Mo on the map, too, so am sending the person who asked about the family a screen shot of the area. Beste, Bev On 5/4/2017 7:57 AM, Alf Christophersen wrote: > Both seems to be subfarms of > > https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/bosted_land/bf01038063003683 > > Thorstad > > > >

One more question, I'll finish the notes and info, and then I'm going to send the images and info off to the person who asked about this family out on the twig of my family tree and try to get some sleep. :-) I have birth/confirmation records for both Anton Larssen and Ingeborg Olsdatter. Between the original marriage record (eek! Almost unreadable!) and the copy of their marriage record, I have figured out almost all of the info. Anton's location of birth is listed as Thorstadeie, and his father's residence lists the 1865 census names for both farms, so that solves the under/sub-farm question. I still need the location where Ingeborg was listed as an Inderst, and the word/occupation of both fathers (her father's is listed as ditto) which is different for both of them from the birth records. In the original copy of the marriage record it looks like Pladsmand.......? (Archaic for husmann, according to Otto's Dictionary.) If I got that one correct, then I just need the name of the place where Ingeborg was listed as Inderst. Groom: Anton Larssen, born at Thorstadeie (I'm guessing it was probably technically at Borkerud where they were living in 1865). Bride: Ingeborg Olsdatter, born at Mossveen. Record #4 - Marriage Record Original: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20060426020182 Record #4 - Marriage Record Copy: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070131650211 Mange Takk! Bev

Thanks Halvor! :-) From a record I found later, I think that is probably correct - Borgerud is a sub-farm of Thorstad (or, Torstad, as it is now spelled on the parish map). Bev On 5/4/2017 2:43 AM, Halvor Stokke wrote: > Looking at Trette in Øyer parish here: http://norwayparishes.com/ > I find a farm named Torstad, so I guess that Borgerud and Torstadhagen are subfarms to main farm Thorstad. > But need to be checked further > > Halvor in Lier > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: NORWAY [mailto:[email protected]] På vegne av Bev Anderson > Sendt: torsdag 4. mai 2017 08.53 > Til: Norway List <[email protected]> > Emne: [NOR] Is this a sub-farm? > > http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=f60521&gardpostnr=497&personpostnr=2898&merk=2898#ovre > https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/bosted_land/bf01038063003831 > > For the Borkerud farm there is this note: For Pladsene Borkeruds og Thorstadhagens Vedkommende, se Anm. ved Løbe No. 124 > > Does that mean Borkerud is a sub-farm of Thorstadhagens? > > Anton adopted the surname Thorstad even before he got to America since he's listed with the name in the emigration record. This is a twig far out on my family tree. > > Mange Takk! > > Bev > >

Thanks Hans! :-) I tried to do a word-for-word translation and got lost.... [Lack of sleep!] Bev On 5/4/2017 2:13 AM, Hans Myhre wrote: > Since he was a husmand (cotter) it is a sub farm, a small place > beloging to a bigger farm. > It was quite normal that they took the farm name as surname when > emigrating, > Hans > > > Den 04.05.2017 08:53, skrev Bev Anderson: >> http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=f60521&gardpostnr=497&personpostnr=2898&merk=2898#ovre >> >> https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/bosted_land/bf01038063003831 >> >> >> For the Borkerud farm there is this note: For Pladsene Borkeruds og >> Thorstadhagens Vedkommende, se Anm. ved Løbe No. 124 >> >> Does that mean Borkerud is a sub-farm of Thorstadhagens? >> >> Anton adopted the surname Thorstad even before he got to America >> since he's listed with the name in the emigration record. This is a >> twig far out on my family tree. >> >> Mange Takk! >> >> Bev >> >> >> >> >> Norwaylist >> Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway >> >> RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB >> http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html >> >> guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Norwaylist > Archiveshttp://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=norway > > RESUBSCRIBE UNSUB > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NOR/NORWAY.html > > guidelines http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/guidelines.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=f60521&gardpostnr=497&personpostnr=2898&merk=2898#ovre https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/bosted_land/bf01038063003831 For the Borkerud farm there is this note: For Pladsene Borkeruds og Thorstadhagens Vedkommende, se Anm. ved Løbe No. 124 Does that mean Borkerud is a sub-farm of Thorstadhagens? Anton adopted the surname Thorstad even before he got to America since he's listed with the name in the emigration record. This is a twig far out on my family tree. Mange Takk! Bev

I have encountered most of these, some quite frequently.  I could tell you many stories about these mistakes. http://trentinogenealogy.com/2017/04/how-the-wrong-information-ends-up-in-your-family-tree/ Greg Holter

I found this to be a good explanation of this often misunderstood topic of Norwegian patronyms http://martinroe.com/blog/index.php/2017/04/30/norwegian-patronyms/ Greg Holter

*Don't forget to also c**lick on the Norwegian Dictionary**on the menu bar. I **think most are in Otto's dictionary, but with the variables we find in Norwegian records, every dictionary helps! :-)** ** **Beste,** ** **Bev* On 4/30/2017 11:38 AM, Gregory Holter wrote: > I found this to be a good explanation of this often misunderstood topic of Norwegian patronyms > > http://martinroe.com/blog/index.php/2017/04/30/norwegian-patronyms/ > > > Greg Holter >

Because they lived at or were born on a farm named Hauge...........???????? Their patonymic names would still have been Nielsen or Nielsdatter if Niels was the father. Really, we need links to documents to see what you're talking about. Bev On 4/29/2017 4:43 PM, Dennis D Gray wrote: > We see that Marie Hauge was married to Niels Michelsen in 1731. We > want to find out why her husbands name is Niels Michelsen - and all > the children are Hauge's! Write me at [email protected] if you have > some information. > > Dennis Gray