Save ? ?Print Share? Hilda Melheim in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 Record Image View ?Add alternate information !Report issue Name: Hilda Melheim Gender: Female Residence Year: 1933 Street address: 806 S 31st Residence Place: Billings, Montana, USA Spouse: Ingebret Melheim Publication Title: Billings, Montana, City Directory, 1933 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:55 PM To: <norway@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NOR] Ole Erickson (Urnes),born Norway 1897 - killed in WW1 - date and place? > Dear Listers! > > Can someone please help me figure out what became of this young man from > Luster Co., Norway who was killed in WW1: > > Ole Erikson URNES aka Ole Erickson > born May 13, 1897 in Luster Co., Norway > emigrated in 1914 to Lac qui parle Co., MN > went as a soldier to WW1 and was apparently "killed in action"! > > Can someone with good knowledge of the military records help me find out > when and where Ole was killed? > > Thanks a million in advance for your wonderful assistance! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Steinar, The last three emails on this topic came to me properly spaced. I am popping my email from my main email address into gmail. I have no problem. Could it be your email reader? Steve

Hello again just briefly and then off to catch some sleep This MAY be of interest to you but it may not be your missing person and I can't find them in the 1940 census. Maybe someone else whose eyes are not so tired. Montana County Marriages 1865-1950 Transcription First name(s) J. H. Last name Pennington Age 65 Birth place Rainshill, England Race or color White Marital status Divorced Marriage year 1934 Marriage date 11 Apr 1934 Marriage place Red Lodge, Carbon, Montana Marriage county Carbon County Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Pennington Mother's first name(s) Mary Mother's last name Blundell Spouse's first name(s) Hilda Spouse's last name Mehheim Spouse's age 55 Spouse's birth place Christiana, Norway Spouse's race or color White Spouse's marital status Widowed Spouse's father's first name(s) August Spouse's father's last name Anderson Spouse's mother's first name(s) Emelia Spouse's mother's last name Anderson State Montana Country United States Record set Montana County Marriages 1865-1950 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Record collection Marriages & divorces Collections from United States Monday, May 16, 1966 Billings Gazette PENNINGTON Funeral services for Mrs. Hilda A. Pennington, age 88, of 2710 Slate St., will be held Monday at p.m. at the Dahl-Brown Funeral Chapel. Interment will be in Sunset Memorial Gardens. Her death registration Name: Hilda Pennington Event Type: Death Event Date: 13 May 1966 Event Place: Deer Lodge, Montana Gender: Age: 88 Marital Status: Widowed Birth Year (Estimated): 1878 Social Security Number: County: Deer Lodge Registration Year (Original): 0 Index Number: 2425 Note: Citing this Record: "Montana, Death Index, 1860-2007," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VHCN-T4F : accessed 27 February 2015), Hilda Pennington, 13 May 1966; from "Montana Death Index, 1907-2007," Ancestry; citing State of Montana Department of Public Health and Human Services, Office of Vital Statistics, Helena. Friday, December 16, 1955 Billings Gazette Retired Railway Foreman Dies John H. Penninglon, 86, a resident of Billings 35 years, died Thursday of infirmities of age in his home at 2710 State St. Funeral services will be at 10 a.m. Saturday in Seltergrin's Chapel, with burial in Mountview Cemetery. Mr. Pennington born in England May 12, 1869, and came to the United States when a small boy. His parents lived in Glendive. He married Hilda Melheim in Red Lodge in ?, and they moved to Billings the same year. He had been a bridge building foreman for the Northern Pacific Railway Co., and retired many years ago. Surviving, In addition to Mrs. Pennington, are a son by a former marriage, John H. Pennington Jr. of Mandan, N.D.; two daughters by the former marriage, Mrs. H. C. Helazic of Tacoma, Wash., a daughter in Missoula and several grandchildren. All the best Thelma (The following information was found through Ancestry.com.) In the 1933 Billings (Montana) City Directory there is listed: Melheim, Hilda (wid Ingebret) h 806 S 31st

At 15:49 26.02.2015, you wrote: Hello Mark. Using your mail was just because it was the last one I had - showing and telling about what I meant. After a lot of mail about it tonight I have tried to see from heading why it is so. It has nothing to do about you or as another said - my program. As you see below your answer to me is just correct. But I see from the mails I receive - specially via or through Yahoo the mess comes to the front. Gmail is ok but when the mail goes through the Yahoo that is causing the problem. I do understand that Bev and Lenise don't know what they talk about. And I am sure this could be ok if everyone use an email program and send directly to roots web I know that may subscribers to the list use their own setup coming when you are paying for an Internet connection. Why do the providers in USA make a pressure to you - using their own software? Yes, they are concerned that can't follow your correspondence. Maybe the NAS make the software for them!? I have see it myself and may of the persons I have visited in USA have changed their software. There is a lot of good mail software out there - it is just to look it up and try them. They are all better then the Windows Outlook and other strange providers software delivered in a pack when you pay for you Internet. I have worked with Internet 20 years and have never seen so much as now what I have tried to put my fingers on. From this answer I thin it will be better and I put myself one the side from now. Thanks to you all for making this a worthwhile subject. Regards Steinar >Hi Steinar, > >I'm responsible for the message you used as an example. Sorry about the >mess. I hope we can find a solution. > > >I use a couple of computers at different locations, and the problem (for me >at least) seems to be when I log into Gmail through a web browser. Gmail >seems to treat emails that have the same address and same subject line as a >"conversation", and groups them all together. > > >It's not a problem unless you're in the web browser and you use the reply >button. Then it wants to send the entire "conversation". It won't show you. >You need to click on a small line of 3 dots at the bottom of the reply >panel. Then you can see what the entire message will look like. > > >As far as formatting, I don't know what's causing the problem. My message >looks fine on this computer, but looks like a complete mess at home. Let's >see how this message looks. Hopefully much better. > > >-Mark

Here is what I <snipped> from one header: Authentication-Results: lists2.rootsweb.com; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.i=@yahoo.com; x-dkim-adsp=signed X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 As you see Yahoo has 2045-bit key an others just use 1024-bit key. This could be the reason. Steinar

Dear Listers! Can someone please help me figure out what became of this young man from Luster Co., Norway who was killed in WW1: Ole Erikson URNES aka Ole Erickson born May 13, 1897 in Luster Co., Norway emigrated in 1914 to Lac qui parle Co., MN went as a soldier to WW1 and was apparently "killed in action"! Can someone with good knowledge of the military records help me find out when and where Ole was killed? Thanks a million in advance for your wonderful assistance! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

At 19:13 26.02.2015, you wrote: Maybe using a computer on the list instead of phone??? >Yes thank you for this thread. I have never realized that I should >delete the subscribe lines. > >I had tried earlier to reply but I am using an iPad and it is VERY >difficult to delete lines. Maybe that means I should take another >class at the Apple Store. > >Carol from Kentucky > >Sent from my iPad

At 15:49 26.02.2015, you wrote: Hello Mark. Using your mail was just because it was the last one I had - showing and telling about what I meant. After a lot of mail about it tonight I have tried to see from heading why it is so. It has nothing to do about you or as another said - my program. As you see below your answer to me is just correct. But I see from the mails I receive - specially via or through Yahoo the mess comes to the front. Gmail is ok but when the mail goes through the Yahoo that is causing the problem. I do understand that Bev and Lenise don't know what they talk about. And I am sure this could be ok if everyone use an email program and send directly to roots web I know that may subscribers to the list use their own setup coming when you are paying for an Internet connection. Why do the providers in USA make a pressure to you - using their own software? Yes, they are concerned that can't follow your correspondence. Maybe the NAS make the software for them!? I have see it myself and may of the persons I have visited in USA have changed their software. There is a lot of good mail software out there - it is just to look it up and try them. They are all better then the Windows Outlook and other strange providers software delivered in a pack when you pay for you Internet. I have worked with Internet 20 years and have never seen so much as now what I have tried to put my fingers on. From this answer I thin it will be better and I put myself one the side from now. Thanks to you all for making this a worthwhile subject. Regards Steinar >Hi Steinar, > >I'm responsible for the message you used as an example. Sorry about the >mess. I hope we can find a solution. > > >I use a couple of computers at different locations, and the problem (for me >at least) seems to be when I log into Gmail through a web browser. Gmail >seems to treat emails that have the same address and same subject line as a >"conversation", and groups them all together. > > >It's not a problem unless you're in the web browser and you use the reply >button. Then it wants to send the entire "conversation". It won't show you. >You need to click on a small line of 3 dots at the bottom of the reply >panel. Then you can see what the entire message will look like. > > >As far as formatting, I don't know what's causing the problem. My message >looks fine on this computer, but looks like a complete mess at home. Let's >see how this message looks. Hopefully much better. > > >-Mark

Okay.... this might help..., maybe. I hope. Jeanne S. hit Reply to Tammy Lundquist's email and included me, so it didn't go to the List.  She mentioned she is using Outlook for her email. Her entire message was run into one long unformatted message exactly like the one Steinar sent, except the lines went across the page instead of stopping halfway across. Could Outlook's plain text emails be part of the problem?  It has removed all formatting, all paragraphs. I don't know..., but it's something to think about for those who know more than I do. Just when something starts working right, computer programmers tinker with it and it all goes out of whack - again.  It's happened periodically every time some new "upgrades" are added somewhere. I'm old school:  If it ain't broke, don't fix it! :-)  Bev From: Jeanne S <norsky123@hotmail.com> To: Bev Anderson <bevgand@yahoo.com>; Tammy Lundquist <tammy_lundquist@hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:49 AM Subject: RE: [NOR] Question for the group. #yiv6269942353 #yiv6269942353 --.yiv6269942353hmmessage P{margin:0px;padding:0px;}#yiv6269942353 body.yiv6269942353hmmessage{font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;}#yiv6269942353

There has been some discussion lately of farm numbers. It is not something I have dealt with before and I am confused as to the importance of them - I am guessing to possibly find census records when a transcription is not available? And how do you know if a farm number and/or name has changed? Thanks for any 'enlightenment' on this issue. Wanda Henderson

Yes thank you for this thread. I have never realized that I should delete the subscribe lines. I had tried earlier to reply but I am using an iPad and it is VERY difficult to delete lines. Maybe that means I should take another class at the Apple Store. Carol from Kentucky Sent from my iPad > On Feb 26, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Doris Waggoner via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > John, > > I included it all so that everyone could SEE why the <snip> is so > important! > > And the responses to this interesting thread, some of which didn't use the > <snip>, and end up looking like Steinar's even though the originate on this > side of the pond, convince me that Don is right. It's a technical issue > having to do with our varying email programs and their settings. But it > makes it even more important to, as Stephanie says, cut out all the > extraneous stuff in our n

Hi Tammy - Your email came through just fine for me.  In fact, it looks like you have at least triple spacing between all paragraphs. A newer computer and email program likely solved whatever original issues you had with lost formatting. Best Wishes,Bev From: Tammy Lundquist via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: Steinar Vissebråten <steinv@vissebraaten.no>; Norway List <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [NOR] Question for the group. Hello List and Steinar, I, too, would like to know what causes this problem that Steinar is describing. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [deleted for space] Just for fun, I will submit to the list that this email contains six separate paragraphs. I do have a different computer since I last submitted a question, so maybe I have actually unknowingly solved my problem. Tammy Sent from Windows Mail

I admit that I don't read every email I receive from the list, but they all come through clear and in order on my computer. > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:09:18 -0500 > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NOR] Question for the group. > From: norway@rootsweb.com > > Your email is just fine Tammy. > > Barbara, Flushing, NY > > > On 2/26/2015 11:55 AM, Tammy Lundquist via wrote: > > Hello List and Steinar, > > > > > > I, too, would like to know what causes this problem that Steinar is describing. > > > > > > I did go back and look at the first example email that Steinar forwarded and it looked fine in my inbox. > > > > > > This is reminding me, however, of one of the few times that I have submitted a question to a List (it was either Norway or Sweden). > > > > > > I worked very hard to have an easy-to-read email that summarized my questions at a glance and I was surprised and disappointed when it came through the List email to my inbox as jumbled and difficult to read. Since I didn’t know what I had done wrong, I just decided that I should avoid submitting questions. > > > > > > I would really appreciate it if someone more knowledgeable than I about computers and email could give some good, easy to understand advice. > > > > > > Just for fun, I will submit to the list that this email contains six separate paragraphs. I do have a different computer since I last submitted a question, so maybe I have actually unknowingly solved my problem. > > > > > > Tammy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Windows Mail > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Steinar: Your top part of the reply came to me in proper format, double-spaced.  At the bottom, my first reply to you has no formatting or paragraphs.  Everything is run together.  (I only left a small part to show others as an example; the rest I deleted from this reply.) Of the other people who replied and left my email at the bottom: Catherine, Mark, and Stephen's part of the replies are in proper format, double spaced between paragraphs, but the wrap-around is about 2/3 of the way across the page (it's wide, but I have a menu on the left and an ad on the right).  My part in Catherine's reply has three or four words of the beginning of each paragraph, then the rest is about 2/3 of the page with a wrap-around, but paragraphs are otherwise spaced properly, so it's kind of broken up. Emails from Lenise, Don, Barbara, and John are intact as they wrote them, all properly formatted.  The part of my email on Barbara's reply has the > arrow between paragraphs and on the first line of each paragraph. The only reply with zero formatting on what he was replying to is yours, Steinar. Best Wishes, Bev P.S.  As before, I have put double spaces between paragraphs, the lines go across the page as usual, and it's all properly formatted from my end.  How it arrives in your inbox is entirely between your email program and Rootsweb. From: Steinar Vissebråten <steinv@vissebraaten.no> To: Bev Anderson <bevgand@yahoo.com>; norway@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 7:42 AM Subject: Re: [NOR] Question for the group. At 13:40 26.02.2015, you wrote: Thanks for your reply. But your mail to me is the same as I just talkedabout. To I seems that the program used is the fault. I just send it as this is a problem to me. And all my years on Internet(20years) it come more and more. It was just a interest from me aboutthings that I don't bother about as these mail is just for the trash boxon my side. A lot of valuable info is lost by sending out such mails. Ibelive the problem is you people over there using a place/software thatdon't understand how this works. regards Steinar Hi Steinar - I don't have theanswer to the problem, but I do know what at least part of the problemis: it's the email program(s). A week or two ago I sent off an email withproper formatting, proper spaces, it came to me all run together, andsomeone re-sent my reply with proper spacing and paragraph breaks. I think the original formatting on my end had been the Yahoo htmldefault.  (This was right after Yahoo changed something about theiremail program and added stationery ability, so they had html as thedefault setting.) A few days ago I sent a reply to someone, it had allthe proper spacings, I had hit Return/Enter before and after the links,double-spacings between paragraphs - all the normal things for a clearand concise reply. I was extremely dismayed to see my reply to this otherperson come back to me without proper spaces, the links had been runtogether so they did not look separate, etc., which is how I've seenother emails from other people, too.

Hello List and Steinar, I, too, would like to know what causes this problem that Steinar is describing. I did go back and look at the first example email that Steinar forwarded and it looked fine in my inbox. This is reminding me, however, of one of the few times that I have submitted a question to a List (it was either Norway or Sweden). I worked very hard to have an easy-to-read email that summarized my questions at a glance and I was surprised and disappointed when it came through the List email to my inbox as jumbled and difficult to read. Since I didn’t know what I had done wrong, I just decided that I should avoid submitting questions. I would really appreciate it if someone more knowledgeable than I about computers and email could give some good, easy to understand advice. Just for fun, I will submit to the list that this email contains six separate paragraphs. I do have a different computer since I last submitted a question, so maybe I have actually unknowingly solved my problem. Tammy Sent from Windows Mail ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers! I have another challenge for you today where I seem to get nowhere...: Ingebrigt Peterson Melheim, born in Hafslo, Norway May 12, 1863 married in Oslo Norway May 13, 1902 to Augusta Andersdotter, born at Hogsaeter, Sweden Nov. 20, 1877 In 1906 Ingebrigt and Augusta emigrated to Newark, NJ continuing the same year to Cleveland, OH I have found absolutely NO sign of this couple in the US except for a passenger record from 1928 when Augusta was back to Norway and reemigrated to the US. Then we read about her the following: * Augusta Melheim, aged 50, married, was naturalized at Glendive, Dawson Co., MT i 1915 * Augusta Melheim travelled 1928 to Lowell, MT, a town which I cannot identify! It is so strange I can see no sign of her in any of my Montana records, so where were they? Any suggestions will be more than appreciated! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Simply put, this is a technical problem, and is NOT about anyone's personal behavior. From: Steinar Vissebråten via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: norway@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:17 AM Subject: [NOR] Question for the group. Hello everyone. As a fond reader of the list I see that I am trashing more and more mails from the group! I don't even care to read them! WHY? The readers of the list and writers to the list don't use any spaces or RETUN in their letters. The whole thing for me seems as an endless page of letters. You really need to look knowing what is the question or answer. I think education was to learn how to tell a story and let others find out the meaning of something.?! I don't know if I am the only one that really have a problem or it is a new way of writing questions and answers!   If this contiues I'll consider getting of the list as these mails for me is just nothing. I have no time to get the email I need to adjust before I can read them. I would like to get other opinions about this so we could try to change it before it gets too many of these - to me - nonsence. Below is a sample of what I mean and how it shows up when I open my mails. Thanks for reading. Steinar Here's a few more: 20 Mar 1896 "Salt Lake Tribune".  Judge W. L. Maginnis and W. H. O'Brein returned yesterday from Idaho, where they have been on business. 16 May 1896 "Salt Lake Tribune".  Attorney W. H. OBrien is confined to his room with severe attack of neuralgia. 30 Dec. 1916 "Ogden Standard", Utah.  MRS. W. H. O'BRIEN HAS BEEN RELEASED. Acting on request of County Attorney Joseph E. Evans, Deputy Sheriff Curtis Allison yesterday located Mrs. W. H. O'Brien at Buhl, Idaho, where her husband is employed. etc. On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Mark Erickson <merickson1870@gmail.com> wrote: > Your William was born in MD abt 1867, studied at the University of > Edinburgh, and became a lawyer. Lot of coincindences. > > 10 Jan 1897, "The Salt Lake Tribune", page 18 > William H. O'Brien. > William. H. O'Brien, a Weber county member of the lower house, was born in > Baltimore, Md., in 1866, but at an early age. he was taken by his parents > to India, where his father engaged in commerce on the Irrawady river. He > was sent to Scotland and took a three years' course in the University of > Edinburgh, afterward going to Germany to complete his education. His > health, however, becoming impaired he was obliged to forego his studies and > spend some months in travel, visiting different parts of India and South > Africa. Finally, in 1885, when only 19 years of age, O'Brien came to this > country, locating in western Kansas, where he remained about a year. At > that time he was attracted to Denver by the great boom, and going there > engaged in surveying. About six years of his life were spent in Colorado, > in Denver, Leadville, Aspen and other points, the most of the time being > occupied in surveying, mining and mining engineering. In 1891 he came to > Salt Lake City, where he commenced the study of law, afterward completing > his studies at Ogden. He is now associated with Judge W. L. Maginnis. He > was put on the ticket by the committee on the resignation of W. L. Peyton. > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > >> Dear Carol, Barbara, Mark and other Listers! >> >> Thank you very much for your latest messages on this topic! >> >> To Carol:  Yes,  have used the Website of the Parish, and it says nothing >> about business hours.  The phone just rings busy all the time...  Not >> normal! >> >> To Barbara:  No, William O'Brien appears to have "stayed put" after he is >> found in Idaho in 1900, 1910, 1915 (marriage), 1920 and dying in 1925 at >> Pocatello, ID.  He was a lawyer! >> >> To Mark:  I am most grateful for your efforts "ploughing thru" various >> newspaper items regarding William H. O'Brien, only too bad nowhere are >> listed any relatives of HIS! >> >> The only place where relatives are mentioned, is in that death notice >> from 1925, but the part about the relatives (great niece in Chicago, IL?) >> are so hard to read, I cannot make anything meaningful out of it... >> >> But still there is hope.  He must have been from somewhere, if we could >> only find the "right" place to look! >> >> Thanks again for your wonderful assistance! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On Feb 25, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Mark Erickson via wrote: >> >> > You might already have this information, and I don't know if it helps >> with >> > any of your questions, but here's a few things I found about them. >> > >> > >> > They're both in the book "Centennial history of Lemhi County, Idaho >> > <https://archive.org/details/centennialhistor00lemh>"  >> > >> > PAGE 120 • School Superintendents >> > >> > Clara A. Digles  1915-1919 >> > >> > >> > PAGE 218 • Lemhi County Proseccuting Attorney >> > >> > Numerous attorneys have held this position. The position has been a >> > springboard to other positions. >> > >> > William H. O'Brien, 1909-11 >> > >> > >> > 16 Jan 1913 Ad in the "Idaho Recorder".  W. H. O'BRIEN, Attorney at Law >> > >> > Office with Judge McCracken. Soon to occupy offices in Citizen National >> > Bank Building. >> > >> > >> > 2 Oct 1913 Ad in the "Idaho Recorder".  W. H. O'BRIEN, Attorney at Law >> > >> > Office Court House, Salmon, Idaho >> > >> > >> > 29 Dec 1916 Ad in the "Idaho Recorder".  O'BRIEN & GLENNON, Attorneys >> at Law >> > >> > Offices in the I.O.O.F. Bldg., Salmon, Idaho >> > >> > (I.O.O.F = International Order of Odd Fellows) >> > >> > >> > He seems to have a history of working with Oil and Mining Companies. >> > >> > MUSGROVE MINING CO. >> > >> > (District Court, D. Idaho, E. D. July 11, 1916.) >> > >> > In the matter of the bankruptcy of the Musgrove Mining Company, a >> > corporation. >> > >> > O'Brien & Glennon, of Salmon, for Musgrove Mining Co. >> > >> > >> > There's a case from 1919 featuring O'Brien & Glennon, of Salmon, so they >> > were still practicing law together at that time. There are a lot of hits >> > for "O'Brien Glennon" in the Salmon Public Library newspapers link from >> > earlier in this thread. >> > >> > >> > 20 Sep 1918 "Idaho Recorder" Mrs. W. H.  O'Brien and daughter Esther >> > Diggles left Tuesday morning for California: Miss Esther to enter >> Berkley, >> > Mrs. O'Brien will return to Henry, Idaho, to teach. >> > >> > >> > 13 June 1919 "Idaho Recorder" Mrs. Clara Diggles O'Brien and her >> daughter >> > Esther are home in Salmon, the mother from Henry and the daughter from >> the >> > university at Berkley, California. >> > >> > >> > There are several other articles from after his death that refer to her >> as >> > "Mrs. Clara Diggles O'Brien". >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Barbara Young via <norway@rootsweb.com >> > >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Dear Lars, >> >> >> >> I have not been following this thread closely but it occurs to me that >> >> since this man seems to be traveling across the country, did he work >> for >> >> a company that had large projects and he would be sent to work in these >> >> places and would stay until the job was finished and then go to the >> next >> >> project he was sent to? >> >> >> >> All the best >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Barbara in MA >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2/25/2015 12:39 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >> >>> Dear Kathy and other Listers! >> >>> >> >>> Thank you very much, Kathy, for you latest message with the O'Brien >> >> family from the 1870 census for Baltimore, MD.  I am still not >> convinced >> >> this be the "right" family, but it must be the same as the one found >> in San >> >> Francisco, CA in 1880. >> >>> >> >>> Now, I have tried to reach the St. Pauls Episcopal Church at >> Blackfoot, >> >> ID, but the phne number given on the Website apparently is no longer >> valid, >> >> so I am kind of "stuck", again...  Maybe it isn't the "right" church >> after >> >> all?  Any suggestions anyone? >> >>> >> >>> Or has anyone found other newspaper items about William H. O'Brien in >> >> Idaho that can help? >> >>> >> >>> Thanks again to everyone for your great assistance in this matter! >> >>> >> >>> Very sincerely yours, >> >>> >> >>> Lars E. Oyane >> >>> >> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >>> >> >>> On Feb 22, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Kathy Hines wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Dear Lars, >> >>>> >> >>>> That must be this family from Baltimore, MD.  Everybody only aged >> about >> >> 7 years in the intervening 10 years. >> >>>> >> >>>> Page No. 467 >> >>>> Schedule 1 - Inhabitants in the Eighteenth Ward, in the City of >> >> Baltimore, State of Maryland, enumerated by me on the 19th day of >> August, >> >> 1870. >> >>>> Post Office: Baltimore, MD >> >>>> (must be a duplex?  The Patrick (29) and Anna (24) McGainey family >> live >> >> in HH 2827 as well.) >> >>>> 3605 OBrien William, 43, m, w, Laborer, Ireland, cannot write, male >> >> citizen of the U.S. >> >>>>          Bridget, 43, f, w, Ireland, cannot read or write >> >>>>          Mary A, 12, f, w, Md >> >>>>          James, 3/12, m, w, Md, b. Mch >> >>>>          Catharine, 8, f, w, Md, attended school within the year >> >>>>          Bridget, 6, f, w, Md, attended school within the year >> >>>>          William, 5, m, w, Md >> >>>> >> >>>> I looked for Baltimore births on ancestry.com, but there seems to >> be a >> >> great shortage of them.  :) >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> I tried looking up the parents on findagrave, in the hopes that a >> >> parents’ obit might say where their children were.  But I was really >> >> shocked to see how many Bridget O’Briens there were in Holy Cross >> Catholic >> >> Cemetery in San Mateo county.  I quit counting at 21! >> >>>> >> >>>> I struck out finding James O’Brien b. March 1870 in MD on the the >> 1900 >> >> California census.  I didn’t find a likely Wm/Bridget either.  Though >> they >> >> would have been about 73 by 1900 and may have already passed away by >> that >> >> time. >> >>>> >> >>>> It’s possible that this was Catherine’s marriage.  She would have >> been >> >> about 26 by this time. >> >>>> NAME:        Catherine O'Brien >> >>>> SPOUSE:      Thomas Joseph Honigan >> >>>> MARRIAGE:    12 Nov 1888 - San Francisco >> >>>> >> >>>> I wonder if the obits for any of the family members of *this* William >> >> O’Brien would mention him being in Idaho? >> >>>> >> >>>> Kathy >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Feb 22, 2015, at 4:16 AM, Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> >> >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Dear Kathy and other Listers! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thank you very much, Kathy, for your latest comments on my William >> H. >> >> O'Brien problem! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I hadn't thought of checking out that marriage record before as far >> as >> >> church records are concerned.  They were married by the Curator of the >> St. >> >> Paul P.E. Church at Blackfoot, ID, but can you tell me which church >> that >> >> may be?  A Curator is a certain degree of Priest in the Catholic >> church, >> >> while P.E. church appears to refer to Episcopal church.  At Blackfoot, >> ID >> >> today there is just one St. Paul church, and that is: St Pauls >> Episcopal >> >> Church, 72 N Shilling Ave, Blackfoot, ID (208)785-4474.  I found an >> >> e-mail address and wrote a message, but it bounced back, so must no >> longer >> >> be good...  I'll try to call them during the week...  (Hopefully it's >> the >> >> "right" church) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Then you have the San Francisco, CA voter list from 1890, which I >> >> hadn't see before.  Now, that William O'Brien does NOT show up in any >> >> census records from 1900, 1910 or 1920 in California, but I suspect he >> be >> >> part of this family from San Francisco, CA 1880: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> O'Brien, William  50  laborer  Ire  Ire Ire >> >>>>> O'Brien, Bridget  46  wife keeping house  Ire  Ire Ire >> >>>>> O'Brien, Mary Ann  20  daughter boarder  MD  Ire  Ire >> >>>>> O'Brien, Elizabeth  15  daughter boarder  MD  Ire  Ire >> >>>>> O'Brien, William  13  son  driver of wagon  MD  Ire  Ire >> >>>>> O'Brien, James  7  son  at school  MD  Ire  Ire >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I find the family living 1870 in Baltimore, MD; the ages a little >> bit >> >> off, but still with both parents born in Ireland! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> This William O'Brien is probably the same one as the one from the >> >> voter list, but can he be the one who shows up in Idaho? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter!  I don't >> easily >> >> give up! >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Very sincerely yours, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Lars E. Oyane >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Feb 22, 2015, at 2:21 AM, Kathy Hines via wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Somebody may have already posted this and I’m just behind the times >> >> again.  :)  Just in case you haven’t seen this yet: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> California, Great Registers >> >>>>>> Name:      William O'Brien < >> >> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VTXW-WBT> >>   >>>>>> Event Type:        Voter Registration >> >>>>>> Event Date:        1890 >> >>>>>> Event Place:      Silver Av Merr & Brnold, San Francisco, >> >> California, United States >> >>>>>> Age:      22 >> >>>>>> Birth Year (Estimated):    1868 >> >>>>>> Birthplace:        Maryland >> >>>>>> GS Film number: 977642 < >> >> >> https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bfilm_number%3A977642 >> > >> >> , Digital Folder Number: 005030282 < >> >> >> https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bfilm_number%3A005030282 >> > >> >> , Image Number: 00205 >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 11:50 PM, Kathy Hines via < >> norway@rootsweb.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Thanks, Lars.  I glanced at that county record book for the >> >> marriages and I wonder if St Paul’s Church might not have a more >> detailed >> >> record of their backgrounds. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I also looked at his death record on famiysearch.org < >> >> http://famiysearch.org/>.  The informant was the Secretary of the >> >> Pocatello Elks Club.  Maybe you can contact them and see if they have >> any >> >> information or history of early members of the club: >> >>>>>>> http://www.elks.org/lodges/ContactUs.cfm?LodgeNumber=0674 < >> >> http://www.elks.org/lodges/ContactUs.cfm?LodgeNumber=0674>  >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Kathy >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Lars E. Oyane via < >> norway@rootsweb.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Dear Kathy and other Listers! >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Thank you very much, Kathy, for your latest comment on William H. >> >> O'Brien. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> When I read your message, I am wondering whether you read this >> >> posting that I made a week ago: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Dear Listers, >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I have another "challenge" for you today: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Peder Aamundson from Sogndal Co., Norway (1837-1921) and wife >> >> Christine Peterson from Hafslo parish, Luster Co., Norway (1850-1927), >> >> pioneer ranchers in Lemhi Co., ID, had a son-in-law that I am having >> >> difficulties identifying: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> William H. O'Brien >> >>>>>>>> supposedly born in Maryland Feb. 17, 1867 >> >>>>>>>> died at Pocatello, ID Jan. 27, 1925 >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> William was a lawyer and presumably must have studied law at some >> >> university in or near Maryland!?  Or maybe he studied somewhere else?? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Documentations: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> * 1900 census for Boise, Ada Co., ID shown William H. O'Brien >> born >> >> Feb. 1867 in MD, parents born in VA and NY, a single lawyer. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> * 1910 census for Salmon, Lemhi Co., ID shows William H. O'Brien. >> >> aged 42 (MD 1868), parents born in VA and NY, a single lawyer - county >> >> attorney >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> * 1920 census for Pocatello, Bannock Co., ID shows William H. >> >> O'Brien, aged 52 (MD 1867), parents born in VA and NY, married, lawyer >> - >> >> retired attorney >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> * 1925 death certificate from Pocatello, ID shows William H. >> >> O'Brien, lawyer, born in MD Feb. 17, 1867 - parents unknown >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> William appears to be rather "consistent" in regard to place of >> >> birth, since the parents are said to be born in VA and NY in all three >> >> censuses, and yet: I have so far not been able to find William >> anywhere in >> >> the 1870 or 1880 censuses! >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> ** Can anyone help me find William H. in the 1870 and/or 1880 >> >> censuses, i.e. exact place of his birth? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> ** How about his middle name, H....? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> ** Maybe William's student record can be found, i.e. where did he >> >> go to law-school? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this >> >> matter! >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Lars E. Oyane >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Here I have included all I know about William H. O'Brien.  As you >> >> see, there are absolutely NO suggestions that he was born in Scotland, >> and >> >> if you search the census records from 1900, 1910, 1920 and 1930 you >> find NO >> >> William O'Briens in the state of IDAHO born in SCOTLAND, and then >> >> definitely none that are lawyers! >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I have no obituaries describing him, but I have been in contact >> >> with relatives of his wife Clara's and have put together this >> biography for >> >> Clara: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> "Clara Julia Amonson, born in Lemhi Co., ID Jan. 18, 1874, died >> at >> >> Blackfoot, ID Sep. 6, 1954.  She was a school teacher, but married 1st >> time >> >> at Palo Alto, CA Oct 14, 1900 to James Arthur aka Arthur Diggles, born >> in >> >> Siskiyou Co., CA Aug. 10, 1871.  He was a mining engineer, and the >> couple >> >> resided at Broken Hill, NSW, Australia.  Arthur died at Largs Bay near >> >> Adelaide, Australia May 14, 1910, and in 1911 Clara returned to >> Idaho.  She >> >> remarried at Blackfoot, ID on Aug. 30, 1915 to William H. O'Brien, our >> >> subject, born in MD Feb. 17, 1867.  He died at Pocatello, ID Jan. 27, >> >> 1925.  William was a lawyer and for a while Lemhi Co. lawyer, while >> Clara >> >> for a while was Lemhi Co. Superintendant of Schools.  She taught school >> >> various places in MT and ID.  One daughter from her 1st marriage died >> >> without descendants." >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I am unable to find Clara in the 1920 census, but in 1920 William >> >> was said to be married and living alone in Pocatello, ID!  It may seem >> like >> >> they separated or divorced, since by 1930 Clara "widowed" was listed as >> >> Clara Diggles in the Montana census, and that's the name she used when >> she >> >> died in 1954! >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I am unable to produce other evidence, but do hope that William >> H. >> >> O'Brien's origin can be found!  Thanks a million! >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Lars E. Oyane >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Kathy Hines via wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> William O’Brien is a very common name around the U.S.  Just out >> of >> >> curiosity I checked the MN Death Index and found 81 of them.  We even >> have >> >> a Wm O’Brien state park in Washington county. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> I would hazard a guess that there is more than one lawyer by the >> >> name of Wm O’Brien.  Most likely the one from Scotland and the one from >> >> Maryland are probably not the same guy. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> You mentioned that the Wm O’Brien that you seek was a >> son-in-law. >> >> Is that right?  Then can you tell us more about the woman he married >> and >> >> her family?  Is there an obit for a family member that names him? >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Kathy >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Feb 21, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Lars E. Oyane via < >> >> norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Greg, Mark and other Listers! >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much to both of you for sending me the article >> on >> >> Judge O'Brien, Greg offline and Mark with a transcript!  I have read it >> >> with great interest. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> However, I was disappointed it didn't include any information >> at >> >> all about William's background or surviving relatives.  So then there >> is a >> >> question; can possibly other articles be found about this Idaho >> Judge?  The >> >> 1900, 1910 and 1920 census records all claim he was a native of >> Maryland >> >> with parents born in VA and NY respectively, while one obituary says >> he was >> >> born in Scotland and attended the University of Edinburgh! >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> So - indeed conflicting information!!?  What is correct? >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Lars E. Oyane >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2015, at 8:06 PM, Mark Erickson via wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Friday, February 6, 1925 >> >>>>>>>>>>> Afton Star Valley Independent >> >>>>>>>>>>> JUDGE O’BRIEN PASSES BEYOND A great many people in Star Valley >> >> will ? grieved to learn of the death last week of Judge W. H O’Brien. >> Judge >> >> O’Brien came into the valley two or three years ago in connection with >> the >> >> Oil Company and while here made many sincere friends owing to his >> honest >> >> and sincere desire to help those who were less fortunate than himself. >> >> Judge O'Brien has been ill for several years but seemed to improve >> when in >> >> the valley, owing to high altitude and plenty of fresh air. He spent a >> few >> >> months in the valley last fall, and it seemed to be the ambition of his >> >> life to make our oil company’s successful. The Judge held the love and >> >> respect of all whom he came in contact with, and we are indeed sorry to >> >> hear of his passing. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I’ll see if I can find anything else. >> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Genealogy from Nes and Flå parish in Hallingdal. FLÅ no. III is OUT!!! Nes farm and family books volume III & IV  - is delayed as of dispute! Phone: +47 32068733  Cell : +47 9069 3540 Steinar Vissebråten, N-3540 Nesbyen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 13:40 26.02.2015, you wrote: Thanks for your reply. But your mail to me is the same as I just talked about. To I seems that the program used is the fault. I just send it as this is a problem to me. And all my years on Internet (20years) it come more and more. It was just a interest from me about things that I don't bother about as these mail is just for the trash box on my side. A lot of valuable info is lost by sending out such mails. I belive the problem is you people over there using a place/software that don't understand how this works. regards Steinar >Hi Steinar - I don't have the answer to the >problem, but I do know what at least part of the >problem is: it's the email program(s). A week or >two ago I sent off an email with proper >formatting, proper spaces, it came to me all run >together, and someone re-sent my reply with >proper spacing and paragraph breaks. I think >the original formatting on my end had been the >Yahoo html default. (This was right after Yahoo >changed something about their email program and >added stationery ability, so they had html as >the default setting.) A few days ago I sent a >reply to someone, it had all the proper >spacings, I had hit Return/Enter before and >after the links, double-spacings between >paragraphs - all the normal things for a clear >and concise reply. I was extremely dismayed to >see my reply to this other person come back to >me without proper spaces, the links had been run >together so they did not look separate, etc., >which is how I've seen other emails from other >people, too. The next time I had to answer >someone, the default formatting (which is new in >Yahoo in the last couple of weeks) is >html. Once I composed the email, I highlighted >everything and made it plain text. The email >that came back looked sensible (it only added >one space between two paragraphs that had >originally had double spacing, but the rest of >it was okay). I'm not at all sure what's up with >the thinner emails that have lines that run >together without formatting, but part of the >problem is in the line length in plain text >emails in certain email programs. I know I >reset my Yahoo email default program to wrap >around and have longer lines across the page >than it originally had as the default >setting. I'm not even sure how I did it because >it was so many years ago, but now the lines go >clear across the page instead of wrapping around >about halfway across the page (like the email >example you sent). It also helps keep the links >intact to have the line go clear across the page >instead of the short wrap-around. The lack of >formatting is what Ancestry's notes section has >as their default, no matter what formatting I >put in Notes on the trees where I am an editor; >that's one reason why I don't put my genealogy >info on their site: the formatting does not stay >the way I enter it. I don't know how this >problem is going to be resolved, but I suspect >that some kind of consistency needs to happen in >original formatting of everyone's emails that is >compatible with the plain text Rootsweb email >program. For the record, I've composed this in >plain text, I have proper double spacing between >paragraphs, the lines go across the screen >before they wrap around..., so I hope it arrives >in everyone's inbox the way it currently looks >on my screen right now. Med vennlig hilsen, Bev >----- Original Message ----- From: Steinar >VissebrÃ¥ten via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: >norway@rootsweb.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, February >26, 2015 5:17 AM Subject: [NOR] Question for the >group. Hello everyone. As a fond reader of the >list I see that I am trashing more and more >mails from the group! I don't even care to read >them! WHY? The readers of the list and writers >to the list don't use any spaces or RETUN in >their letters. The whole thing for me seems as >an endless page of letters. You really need to >look knowing what is the question or answer. I >think education was to learn how to tell a story >and let others find out the meaning of >something.?! I don't know if I am the only one >that really have a problem or it is a new way of >writing questions and answers! If this >contiues I'll consider getting of the list as >these mails for me is just nothing. I have no >time to get the email I need to adjust before I >can read them. I would like to get other >opinions about this so we could try to change it >before it gets too many of these - to me - >nonsence. Below is a sample of what I mean and >how it shows up when I open my mails. Thanks for >reading. 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I can't completely answer your question, but I do know that male choruses were very popular in Norway in the 19th c. My g grandfather was in one in Sandefjord, Vestfold in the 1880s. I presume they sang both secular and sacred music, as one story members of the family know goes that at least some of them sang from the church steeple on Easter morning. I've seen pictures online of this church, which still exists. It has "shutters" on 3 sides of the steeple, which clearly would open outwards, so that the singers could stand inside and sing, their voices projecting outwards. No doubt they could be heard for a good distance, as they were well above the church doors. Google "Sandar church" for info on this church, including pictures that show the shutters, though they are closed. This group was famous enough that somehow Queen Victoria heard of them and invited them to come sing in her court. She asked them to wear their native costumes. But they also wore top hats--my g grandfather's is now in my brother's possession. There was a bit of a fuss because they were used to singing in knee breeches, and court dress required long pants. But they worked that out, and the chorus sang in their knee breeches, which were part of the native costume she'd asked them to wear. While a few may have known how to read music, mostly they sang by ear. But the music they were to sing for Queen Victoria was transcribed somehow into a book for them to learn their songs from and to take to England. He brought that to America with him, but it's now lost. I have no idea whether this chorus of singers was paid or not for their performances. My g grandfather was a merchant, and shows up that way in the local 1885 Sandefjord census. He emigrated to America not long after. Presumably this work as a singer was prestigious, or the chorus wouldn't have become known to the queen, and they wouldn't have been invited to sing for her. Nor would the top hat have been among the few things he chose to take with him to America. Doris On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Cliff M via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hei all, > > I just have a simple question that I (and maybe others) have wondered > about. > I have came across a number of my distant relatives who have a occupation > of “Church Singer”, I have looked this up and know what they do but would > like > to know this about it: > > 1. was it a prestigious occupation with the Church and community? > > 2. Did they get paid for this occupation, or just volunteer their service? > > 3. I see only Males, were their any Females? > > Thank you for the information. > > Cliff M > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Wanda, You are touching a rather "complex" question, but let me try to give you at least a partial explanation! Each County (kommune - previously prestegjeld) has their own number series on the main farm units located in said County. The current system dates from 1886 and gives a series of numbers to the "main" farm units (in Norwegian: Gardsnummer), with a subnumber (in Norwegian: Bruksnummer) for each sub farm unit. When Counties merged, which has happened several times, in particular back on the 1960's, the farm numbers were changed adding the number series from one merging County onto the number series of the other merging County. For example: Luster County had 92 farm numbers, but merged 1964 with Hafslo County with 93 farm numbers and Jostedal County with 26 farm numbers. After the merger thw "new" Luster County has 211 farm numbers, the Luster part 1-92, the Hafslo part 93-185 and the Jostedal part 186-211. The number series from 1886 replaced a similar "old" farm number system dating from 1838. I hope this helps! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Feb 26, 2015, at 1:42 PM, DON HENDERSON via wrote: > There has been some discussion lately of farm numbers. It is not something I have dealt with before and I am confused as to the importance of them - I am guessing to possibly find census records when a transcription is not available? And how do you know if a farm number and/or name has changed? > Thanks for any 'enlightenment' on this issue. > Wanda Henderson > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message