Well said, Doris. From: Doris Waggoner via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: Cliff Lien <cjl@interbaun.com>; Norway List <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [NOR] Farm numbers Wanda, The farm in Sandar, Vestfold that has been in my family since my g grandmother inherited it around 1875 (there were no male heirs, as sometimes happened, so she inherited it) has changed its name slightly. She and her husband emigrated to America, and descendants of her sister now own it.  Complicating matters further, in the meantime women now take their husband's name at marriage, as they do in the US; when my g grandmother inherited the farm, women still retained their own names so were easier to trace after marriage. So searching on the sister's maiden name wouldn't have turned it up. I don't think I'd ever have found this farm, or been able to determine that it really was the same one, except that the farm number remains the same.  This is one illustration of why Lars, Don and Cliff indicate the farm numbers are of use genealogically as well as historically. Doris On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 6:34 AM, Cliff Lien via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Wanda, > > Yes, the farm numbers can be an important finding aid when we try to trace > records from the past through to today. > Finding a farm on a modern online map for example requires an exact > spelling > of the farm today, but if we can figure out today's farm number that can be > used in a search. > > <snip> > > Cliff Lien > Alberta, Canada > cjl@interbaun.com > > <snip> > > Lars, > Thank you for the explanation, I do understand. So for genealogical record > keeping, the farm number doesn't seem to matter so much. But you would want > to be aware of county changes in order to find records. > > I will keep that in mind - thanks. > Wanda > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Important to see that Ole Kristensson was a miller. He must have been a miller at Libergsfossen. There was a mill at Libergsfossen (foss=waterfall). The mill itself was called Sønsterudkvern (kvern=mill). So Libergsfossen and Sønsterudkvern may be used for the same place. Arild Kompelien Den 28.02.2015 16:26, skrev Cliff Lien via: > Ole Christensen is here at Floberg Søndre in the 1801 census. > The family starts at record #2676 > > http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=22&filnamn=f18010424&gardpostnr=101&personpostnr=2676&merk=2676#ovre > > There are a few Libergsfos bruks here and there is Aasnes over the years. > I could not find one under Floberg though... > > That is one tough christening record - I can never get started with the > really old records... > > Cliff Lien > Alberta, Canada > cjl@interbaun.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lars E. Oyane via > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 12:17 AM > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NOR] Handwriting Assistance Requested: Kirsti Olsdatter, > Hof,Hedmark > > Dear James, > > I am not acquainted in the Hof Aasnes area, so the farm names may not be > correct, but I read the text as follows: > > "Ole Xstens(en) [Liebergsfossen] og Johanne Hansd(atter) b(arn) N(omine) > Kirstj, F(addere) Soren Jons(en) og Soren Arnes(en) Lille Sonsterud, Gunnild > Syversd(atter) Ingelsrud, Ragnild Olsd(atter) Toverud" > > Hopefully this gives some meaning to you? > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello again have you seen this, Lars? http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/details/patent/default.aspx?accession=552752&docClass=SER&sid=kaskzqpz.j3u Land Patent Details Accession Nr: 552752 Document Type: Serial Patent State: Montana Issue Date: 11/2/1916 Cancelled: No Names On Document Miscellaneous Information Patentee MELHEIM, INGEBRIGT Land Office: Miles City US Reservations: Yes Mineral Reservations: Yes Tribe: --- Militia: --- State In Favor Of: --- Military Rank: --- Authority: May 20, 1862: Homestead EntryOriginal (12 Stat. 392) Document Numbers Survey Information Document Nr: 017252 Total Acres: 320.00 Misc. Doc. Nr: 0 Survey Date: --- BLM Serial Nr: MTMC 0017252 Geographic Name: --- Indian Allot. Nr: --- Metes/Bounds: No Land Descriptions State Meridian Twp - Rng Aliquots Section Survey # County MT Montana PM 016N - 058E E½ 28 Dawson Is it possible that he served in WW1 and perhaps died? Or that he and his wife returned to Norway and thus that is why they are not in the 1920 Census?

Ole Christensen is here at Floberg Søndre in the 1801 census. The family starts at record #2676 http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=22&filnamn=f18010424&gardpostnr=101&personpostnr=2676&merk=2676#ovre There are a few Libergsfos bruks here and there is Aasnes over the years. I could not find one under Floberg though... That is one tough christening record - I can never get started with the really old records... Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com -----Original Message----- From: Lars E. Oyane via Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 12:17 AM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Handwriting Assistance Requested: Kirsti Olsdatter, Hof,Hedmark Dear James, I am not acquainted in the Hof Aasnes area, so the farm names may not be correct, but I read the text as follows: "Ole Xstens(en) [Liebergsfossen] og Johanne Hansd(atter) b(arn) N(omine) Kirstj, F(addere) Soren Jons(en) og Soren Arnes(en) Lille Sonsterud, Gunnild Syversd(atter) Ingelsrud, Ragnild Olsd(atter) Toverud" Hopefully this gives some meaning to you? Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Wanda, Yes, the farm numbers can be an important finding aid when we try to trace records from the past through to today. Finding a farm on a modern online map for example requires an exact spelling of the farm today, but if we can figure out today's farm number that can be used in a search. For cleaning up "replied to" messages I put my cursor at the end of the message portion I want to keep as reference. Try to retain the "question" to which you providing input. Then I hit "Shift-Ctrl_End" which highlights everything to the end of the message. Then just hit Delete... Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com -----Original Message----- From: DON HENDERSON via Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 4:36 PM To: Lars E. Oyane ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Farm numbers Lars, Thank you for the explanation, I do understand. So for genealogical record keeping, the farm number doesn't seem to matter so much. But you would want to be aware of county changes in order to find records. I will keep that in mind - thanks. Wanda P.S. I tried deleting the bottom Unsubscribe messages from your response and it deleted the whole message!

Wanda, The farm in Sandar, Vestfold that has been in my family since my g grandmother inherited it around 1875 (there were no male heirs, as sometimes happened, so she inherited it) has changed its name slightly. She and her husband emigrated to America, and descendants of her sister now own it. Complicating matters further, in the meantime women now take their husband's name at marriage, as they do in the US; when my g grandmother inherited the farm, women still retained their own names so were easier to trace after marriage. So searching on the sister's maiden name wouldn't have turned it up. I don't think I'd ever have found this farm, or been able to determine that it really was the same one, except that the farm number remains the same. This is one illustration of why Lars, Don and Cliff indicate the farm numbers are of use genealogically as well as historically. Doris On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 6:34 AM, Cliff Lien via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Wanda, > > Yes, the farm numbers can be an important finding aid when we try to trace > records from the past through to today. > Finding a farm on a modern online map for example requires an exact > spelling > of the farm today, but if we can figure out today's farm number that can be > used in a search. > > <snip> > > Cliff Lien > Alberta, Canada > cjl@interbaun.com > > <snip> > > Lars, > Thank you for the explanation, I do understand. So for genealogical record > keeping, the farm number doesn't seem to matter so much. But you would want > to be aware of county changes in order to find records. > > I will keep that in mind - thanks. > Wanda >

Dear James, I am not acquainted in the Hof Aasnes area, so the farm names may not be correct, but I read the text as follows: "Ole Xstens(en) [Liebergsfossen] og Johanne Hansd(atter) b(arn) N(omine) Kirstj, F(addere) Soren Jons(en) og Soren Arnes(en) Lille Sonsterud, Gunnild Syversd(atter) Ingelsrud, Ragnild Olsd(atter) Toverud" Hopefully this gives some meaning to you? Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Feb 28, 2015, at 1:17 AM, James Aylard via wrote: > I am tracing a lineage that I have been given and am validating it against > the parish registers. One of my ancestors was a Kirsti Olsdatter, recorded > in the lineage as having been born at Floberg, Åsnes, Hedmark in 1796. I > found that Åsnes was part of Hof parish in 1796. FamilySearch indexed a > Kirsti Olsdatter (although they recorded it as Olsen) for Hof on 31 January > 1796. > > In the Hof register, I found a baptism entry that appears to match the > FamilySearch index, but the handwriting is pretty small and the microfilm > image from which the digital copy was taken is a little soft. I'm wondering > if a more-experienced eye can figure out some of the hard-to-read parts? > > http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9160&idx_id=9160&uid=ny&idx_side=-45 > > The entry in question is on the right-hand page about half-way down under > Aasnes, under the Baptism entries. Its the first of that group. The entry > appears to be Ole Xtiansen [Christiansen] [I can't read the next two words] > og Johanne Hansd. C. N. Kirsti [I think]. Then after that, I can't really > make out much of the rest of it. > > If someone could verify what I think I'm reading, and figure out the parts > I can't, I would be very grateful! Thanks. > > -- > > James Aylard >

Lars, Thank you for the explanation, I do understand. So for genealogical record keeping, the farm number doesn't seem to matter so much. But you would want to be aware of county changes in order to find records. I will keep that in mind - thanks. Wanda P.S. I tried deleting the bottom Unsubscribe messages from your response and it deleted the whole message! On Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:22 AM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: Dear Wanda, You are touching a rather "complex" question, but let me try to give you at least a partial explanation! Each County (kommune - previously prestegjeld) has their own number series on the main farm units located in said County.  The current system dates from 1886 and gives a series of numbers to the "main" farm units (in Norwegian: Gardsnummer), with a subnumber (in Norwegian: Bruksnummer) for each sub farm unit. When Counties merged, which has happened several times, in particular back on the 1960's, the farm numbers were changed adding the number series from one merging County onto the number series of the other merging County.  For example: Luster County had 92 farm numbers, but merged 1964 with Hafslo County with 93 farm numbers and Jostedal County with 26 farm numbers.  After the merger thw "new" Luster County has 211 farm numbers, the Luster part 1-92, the Hafslo part 93-185 and the Jostedal part 186-211. The number series from 1886 replaced a similar "old" farm number system dating from 1838. I hope this helps! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Feb 26, 2015, at 1:42 PM, DON HENDERSON via wrote: > There has been some discussion lately of farm numbers. It is not something I have dealt with before and I am confused as to the importance of them - I am guessing to possibly find census records when a transcription is not available? And how do you know if a farm number and/or name has changed? > Thanks for any 'enlightenment' on this issue. > Wanda Henderson > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Cliff, It isn't quite easy, but in Norwegian it says: "Mistede af Uagtsomhed, ved Brugen af en [Taerske?]maskinn sin venstre Haand og doed som Foelge deraf 8 Dage efter af Koldbrand i Armen" "Lost by negligence, using a [threshing?] machine, his left hand and died as a consequence of this 8 days later from gangrene in the arm" Sounds painful to me... Hope this helps... Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Feb 27, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Cliff M via wrote: > Sorry to bother you, but I just can’t make heads or tails of this death, good writing but > just to small for me to decipher..... > > Death 1846, Page 408, #23, Colben Knudsen, COD column 7 > > Source information: Møre og Romsdal county, Stranda, Parish register (official) nr. 520A07 (1843-1861), Death and burial records 1846, page 408-409. > Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2251&idx_id=2251&uid=ny&idx_side=-7 > Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20050727030661.jpg > > Thanks a bunch, > > > Cliff M >

I am tracing a lineage that I have been given and am validating it against the parish registers. One of my ancestors was a Kirsti Olsdatter, recorded in the lineage as having been born at Floberg, Åsnes, Hedmark in 1796. I found that Åsnes was part of Hof parish in 1796. FamilySearch indexed a Kirsti Olsdatter (although they recorded it as Olsen) for Hof on 31 January 1796. In the Hof register, I found a baptism entry that appears to match the FamilySearch index, but the handwriting is pretty small and the microfilm image from which the digital copy was taken is a little soft. I'm wondering if a more-experienced eye can figure out some of the hard-to-read parts? http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9160&idx_id=9160&uid=ny&idx_side=-45 The entry in question is on the right-hand page about half-way down under Aasnes, under the Baptism entries. Its the first of that group. The entry appears to be Ole Xtiansen [Christiansen] [I can't read the next two words] og Johanne Hansd. C. N. Kirsti [I think]. Then after that, I can't really make out much of the rest of it. If someone could verify what I think I'm reading, and figure out the parts I can't, I would be very grateful! Thanks. -- James Aylard

Sorry to bother you, but I just can’t make heads or tails of this death, good writing but just to small for me to decipher..... Death 1846, Page 408, #23, Colben Knudsen, COD column 7 Source information: Møre og Romsdal county, Stranda, Parish register (official) nr. 520A07 (1843-1861), Death and burial records 1846, page 408-409. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2251&idx_id=2251&uid=ny&idx_side=-7 Permanent imagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20050727030661.jpg Thanks a bunch, Cliff M

Dear Greg, David, Jerrald, Thelma and other Listers! Once again you have amazed me with wonderful findings about a "long-lost" emigrant family! I am so grateful and thank you from the bottom of my heart! At some point Augusta must have changed her name to Hilda, and I notice she "pretended" being Norwegian, although we know she was very much a "Swede"! A lot of valuable information has been found, but it remains kind of a "mystery" what became of Ingebret, her 1st husband! I cannot find a death record for him in Montana state (or anywhere else). Could it be he left the area for health reasons? Maybe he died somewhere in the West or in the South, in a state which has no online death index? Or could his name be recorded in a "twisted" way? Maybe newspaper items can be found about him? Another interesting item would obviously be a possible obituary for Hilda Melheim Pennington from 1966? I consider trying a phone call to Sunset Memorial Gardens cemetery in Billings, MT. Maybe they can find additional references to this family? Well, thanks again for your wonderful messages which really made my day! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Feb 26, 2015, at 11:46 PM, Thelma Hartman via wrote: > Hello again > > just briefly and then off to catch some sleep > > This MAY be of interest to you but it may not be your missing person and I > can't find them in the 1940 census. Maybe someone else whose eyes are not so > tired. > > Montana County Marriages 1865-1950 Transcription > First name(s) J. H. > Last name Pennington > Age 65 > Birth place Rainshill, England > Race or color White > Marital status Divorced > Marriage year 1934 > Marriage date 11 Apr 1934 > Marriage place Red Lodge, Carbon, Montana > Marriage county Carbon County > Father's first name(s) John > Father's last name Pennington > Mother's first name(s) Mary > Mother's last name Blundell > Spouse's first name(s) Hilda > Spouse's last name Mehheim > Spouse's age 55 > Spouse's birth place Christiana, Norway > Spouse's race or color White > Spouse's marital status Widowed > Spouse's father's first name(s) August > Spouse's father's last name Anderson > Spouse's mother's first name(s) Emelia > Spouse's mother's last name Anderson > State Montana > Country United States > Record set Montana County Marriages 1865-1950 > Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records > Record collection Marriages & divorces > Collections from United States > > > Monday, May 16, 1966 > Billings Gazette > PENNINGTON Funeral services for Mrs. Hilda A. Pennington, age 88, of 2710 > Slate St., will be held Monday at p.m. at the Dahl-Brown Funeral Chapel. > Interment will be in Sunset Memorial Gardens. > > Her death registration > Name: Hilda Pennington > Event Type: Death > Event Date: 13 May 1966 > Event Place: Deer Lodge, Montana > Gender: > Age: 88 > Marital Status: Widowed > Birth Year (Estimated): 1878 > Social Security Number: > County: Deer Lodge > Registration Year (Original): 0 > Index Number: 2425 > Note: > Citing this Record: > "Montana, Death Index, 1860-2007," index, FamilySearch > (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VHCN-T4F : accessed 27 February > 2015), Hilda Pennington, 13 May 1966; from "Montana Death Index, 1907-2007," > Ancestry; citing State of Montana Department of Public Health and Human > Services, Office of Vital Statistics, Helena. > > Friday, December 16, 1955 > Billings Gazette > > Retired Railway Foreman Dies John H. Penninglon, 86, a resident of Billings > 35 years, died Thursday of infirmities of age in his home at 2710 State St. > Funeral services will be at 10 a.m. Saturday in Seltergrin's Chapel, with > burial in Mountview Cemetery. Mr. Pennington born in England May 12, 1869, > and came to the United States when a small boy. His parents lived in > Glendive. He married Hilda Melheim in Red Lodge in ?, and they moved to > Billings the same year. He had been a bridge building foreman for the > Northern Pacific Railway Co., and retired many years ago. Surviving, In > addition to Mrs. Pennington, are a son by a former marriage, John H. > Pennington Jr. of Mandan, N.D.; two daughters by the former marriage, Mrs. > H. C. Helazic of Tacoma, Wash., a daughter in Missoula and several > grandchildren. > > All the best > > Thelma > > > (The following information was found through Ancestry.com.) > > > > In the 1933 Billings (Montana) City Directory there is listed: > > > Melheim, Hilda (wid Ingebret) h 806 S 31st >

I guess the Ole below fits not badly, but is Ole Ericksen Urnes 13 May 1897 the son of Margrethe Jensdatter and Ivar Eriksen? I don't see anywhere where he was drafted for WWI - Maybe enlisted after the war? Note the Ole below is married... I can't find Ole born 13 May 1897 anywhere in Norway in 1910 ??? Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com -----Original Message----- From: Jerrald Lloyd via Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 9:27 PM To: Lars E. Oyane ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Ole Erickson (Urnes),born Norway 1897 - killed in WW1 - date and place? Ole C Erickson in the 1920 United States Federal Census Name: Ole C Erickson Age: 23 Birth Year: abt 1897 Birthplace:Norway Home in 1920: Jefferson Barracks, St Louis, Missouri Street: Jefferson Barracks Mo Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1914 Marital Status: Married Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Native Tongue: Norwegian Able to Speak English: Yes Occupation: Laborer Industry: Prt USArmy Employment Field: Wage or Salary Naturalization Status: Naturalized

Hi Pete and Sandy, Speaking only for myself, I read all of the posts. I have found great information in posts that are in families that I have absolutely no family connection. Sometimes hints that I hadn't thought of or historical items that would have affected my family and much general interest in the Norwegian people and what was going on in their lives. There might be more in them than just some other family's birth, marriage and death dates. Some call these "off topic" but I find them definitely "on topic" by Norwegian people. This is the main reason I stay tuned to this list. Most lists are very staid and this one is like a large family reunion every day. THere is lots of family information salt and peppered with much humor. Genealogy, when you think about it, can be a hobby of deaths and levity and topic breaks are welcome. All the best Barbara in MA On 2/26/2015 11:39 AM, Pete and Sandy QUAMEN via wrote: > Subject of long digests with same dates repeated and repeated. > When I first joined the list each Digest had an interactive table of > contents which included the sender's I'd, and the subject of each message it > contained. This allowed me to scan the subject of each message to determine > if I wanted to read it. > Now the table of contents is there but it isn't interactive and I have to > scroll through all the unwanted stuff to find the one in which I am > interested. Our administrators might see what can be done to make the table > of contents interactive again. > That' just my two cents worth. > PeteQ > Bell Buckle, Tennessee > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

So my message below is an example of the formatting problems that have been discussed on the list over the last day. In my message below, I double-spaced between paragraphs but that didn't follow through on the list. My ISP, Frontier, uses a Yahoo webmail interface, and the email servers at Rootsweb appear not to faithfully reproduce the formatting for messages sent, This time, I triple-spaced between paragraphs.  We will see how that works. Greg Holter From: Gregory Holter via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: Lars E. Oyane <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no>; "norway@rootsweb.com" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [NOR] Ingebrigt and Augusta Melheim - emigrated 1906 to Cleveland, OH - lived 1915 and 1928 in Montana - what became of them? Lars, There is a Lowell school in Missoula, Montana, and I think perhaps Lowell was a small place that was eventually incorporated as part of Missoula.  But I don't know that for sure. I don't know where you found the information about Lowell, but it might also be possible that someone made an error and was actually referring to Laurel, Montana, just a short ways west of Billings.  That is much closer to Glendive.   Greg Holter       From: Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: norway@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:38 PM Subject: [NOR] Ingebrigt and Augusta Melheim - emigrated 1906 to Cleveland, OH - lived 1915 and 1928 in Montana - what became of them?   Dear Listers! I have another challenge for you today where I seem to get nowhere...: Ingebrigt Peterson Melheim, born in Hafslo, Norway May 12, 1863 married in Oslo Norway May 13, 1902 to Augusta Andersdotter, born at Hogsaeter, Sweden Nov. 20, 1877 In 1906 Ingebrigt and Augusta emigrated to Newark, NJ continuing the same year to Cleveland, OH I have found absolutely NO sign of this couple in the US except for a passenger record from 1928 when Augusta was back to Norway and reemigrated to the US.  Then we read about her the following: * Augusta Melheim, aged 50, married, was naturalized at Glendive, Dawson Co., MT i 1915 * Augusta Melheim travelled 1928 to Lowell, MT, a town which I cannot identify! It is so strange I can see no sign of her in any of my Montana records, so where were they? Any suggestions will be more than appreciated! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Lars, There is a Lowell school in Missoula, Montana, and I think perhaps Lowell was a small place that was eventually incorporated as part of Missoula.  But I don't know that for sure. I don't know where you found the information about Lowell, but it might also be possible that someone made an error and was actually referring to Laurel, Montana, just a short ways west of Billings.  That is much closer to Glendive.   Greg Holter From: Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: norway@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 12:38 PM Subject: [NOR] Ingebrigt and Augusta Melheim - emigrated 1906 to Cleveland, OH - lived 1915 and 1928 in Montana - what became of them? Dear Listers! I have another challenge for you today where I seem to get nowhere...: Ingebrigt Peterson Melheim, born in Hafslo, Norway May 12, 1863 married in Oslo Norway May 13, 1902 to Augusta Andersdotter, born at Hogsaeter, Sweden Nov. 20, 1877 In 1906 Ingebrigt and Augusta emigrated to Newark, NJ continuing the same year to Cleveland, OH I have found absolutely NO sign of this couple in the US except for a passenger record from 1928 when Augusta was back to Norway and reemigrated to the US.  Then we read about her the following: * Augusta Melheim, aged 50, married, was naturalized at Glendive, Dawson Co., MT i 1915 * Augusta Melheim travelled 1928 to Lowell, MT, a town which I cannot identify! It is so strange I can see no sign of her in any of my Montana records, so where were they? Any suggestions will be more than appreciated! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Lars: (The following information was found through Ancestry.com.) In the 1933 Billings (Montana) City Directory there is listed: Melheim, Hilda (wid Ingebret) h 806 S 31st I did find her in the 1930 US Census: Melhem (as spelled), Hilda Female - White - 54 - widowed - first married at age 22 Born in Norway - father/mother born in Norway She was the proprietor of a rooming house and was living in Laurel Town, Laurel Township, Yellowstone County, Montana (which supports the information provided by Greg Holter) Hilda Melheim is still listed in the 1956 Billings City Directory. I spent much time trying to find other mention of Ingebret and Hilda (and also Augusta) Melheim but without success. I am not sure that "Hilda" is the "Augusta" you are seeking, but there are some facts that match what you provided to us. I hope this helps. David Wilson Kraft

I found this explanation in the archives: "Kirkesanger" was also called "klokker". The kirkesanger did service in > the church, like leading the singing, saying certain prayers, and he (it > was always a "he" at that time) helped the pastor in different ways. He > had the job to keep one of the church registers, "klokkerboka". There were > two church registers, the pastor kept the main one. The "kirkesanger" was > very often a teacher. > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/TRONDELAG/2009-01/1232286914 > To: norway-l@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 11:43:24 -0800 > Subject: [NOR] Occupation > From: norway@rootsweb.com > > Hei all, > > I just have a simple question that I (and maybe others) have wondered about. > I have came across a number of my distant relatives who have a occupation > of “Church Singer”, I have looked this up and know what they do but would like > to know this about it: > > 1. was it a prestigious occupation with the Church and community? > > 2. Did they get paid for this occupation, or just volunteer their service? > > 3. I see only Males, were their any Females? > > Thank you for the information. > > Cliff M > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Save ? ?Print Share? Ole C Erickson in the 1920 United States Federal Census Record Image View ?View blank form ?Add alternate information !Report issue Name: Ole C Erickson Age: 23 Birth Year: abt 1897 Birthplace: Norway Home in 1920: Jefferson Barracks, St Louis, Missouri Street: Jefferson Barracks Mo Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1914 Marital Status: Married Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Native Tongue: Norwegian Able to Speak English: Yes Occupation: Laborer Industry: Prt USArmy Employment Field: Wage or Salary Naturalization Status: Naturalized Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Leonard N Potts 19 Carl O Knox 19 Chester E Romosier 21 Forrest F Feece 26 Donald J Sutherlin 24 Robert F Samples 20 William R Cranmer 23 Charles W Howard 21 Clarence Johnson 20 Guy R Hamilton 20 Peter G Errett 23 Harry Erickson 19 Noel V Blankenship 21 John Samborski 23 Jesse Y Colliver 19 Bernard A Weber 21 Calvin Holderfield 22 Roger Y Rose 22 Louis Walleck 19 Leon V Duchossois 19 John R Hold 20 Reginald Mcinvale 21 Leo J Puricki 19 Joseph R Zarate 22 Edward L Strong 32 Peter Haugen 21 Walter J Garvey 22 Thomas Salisbury 27 Joseph J Thilgen 21 Henry Duke 22 James L Sullivan 22 Ivan S Pursley 20 Clifford Manners 18 Clyde J Bram 18 Lee O Northrip 19 Henry G Amsrud 25 Carl O Amsrud 18 Joseph Hustermann 18 Clarence L Powell 18 Lewis S Epker 20 Sidney Renshaw 19 Vallie R Parks 18 Michael J Konkowski 27 George Hahn 40 Alexander J Rouch 19 William G King 20 Robert M Linderman 50 Leslie H Kelley 31 Stephen A Horn 23 Thomas E Shanahan 20 William Davis 19 John Roberson 29 [28] Ivan E Stroud 33 Archie A Wells 26 Roy T Warren 20 Robert C Mansfield 18 Edward J Davis 20 Stoner C Kimball 19 William J Swain 29 Martin L Sandefer 33 William A Riggs 26 Ole C Erickson 23 Freeman Tanner 35 Save ? Cancel -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:55 PM To: <norway@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NOR] Ole Erickson (Urnes),born Norway 1897 - killed in WW1 - date and place? > Dear Listers! > > Can someone please help me figure out what became of this young man from > Luster Co., Norway who was killed in WW1: > > Ole Erikson URNES aka Ole Erickson > born May 13, 1897 in Luster Co., Norway > emigrated in 1914 to Lac qui parle Co., MN > went as a soldier to WW1 and was apparently "killed in action"! > > Can someone with good knowledge of the military records help me find out > when and where Ole was killed? > > Thanks a million in advance for your wonderful assistance! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Save ? ?Print Share? Hilda Melheim in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 Record Image View ?Add alternate information !Report issue Name: Hilda Melheim Residence Year: 1954 Residence Place: Billings, Montana, USA Publication Title: Billings, Montana, City Directory, 1954 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:55 PM To: <norway@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NOR] Ole Erickson (Urnes),born Norway 1897 - killed in WW1 - date and place? > Dear Listers! > > Can someone please help me figure out what became of this young man from > Luster Co., Norway who was killed in WW1: > > Ole Erikson URNES aka Ole Erickson > born May 13, 1897 in Luster Co., Norway > emigrated in 1914 to Lac qui parle Co., MN > went as a soldier to WW1 and was apparently "killed in action"! > > Can someone with good knowledge of the military records help me find out > when and where Ole was killed? > > Thanks a million in advance for your wonderful assistance! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >