Dear Listers! The last couple of days I have experienced several times that messages which I post on the list don't get back to me as "posted" till more than 12 hours later. And the same has happened to messages intended for me. If the person sending something for me adding my address in the Cc. field, I receive the Cc - message at once, while the one going thru Rootsweb takes more than 12 hours to reach me! The same problem seems to occur also on a couple of other Rootsweb list which I follow... Is anyone else experiencing the same kind of system "disturbances"? Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Hi Lars, I noticed several different spellings of the name that might help with your search. Canutson, Caunteson, Canuteson. From those I found a few interesting records. Chicago Daily Tribune · Sun, May 15, 1881 · Page 5 Special Dispatch from Ottawa, Ill. The following list of opinions in the Supreme Court were filed with the Clerk of the Northern Grand Division this morning. CIVIL DOCKET: 90. Borchsenius vs. Canutson; reversed and remanded with directions. Here's a summary of the case. *http://tinyurl.com/q3zywt9 <http://tinyurl.com/q3zywt9>* That note was given plaintiff for money collected on insurance policy held by defendant as collateral security for indebtedness due defendant from deceased husband of plaintiff and surrendered after his death for collection on agreement with plaintiff that such indebtedness after being determined by arbitrators should be paid, and their award offered as set-off. Here's another with more details. Charles J. Borchsenius v. Anna Caunteson, formerly Anna Irgens *http://tinyurl.com/nfntvch <http://tinyurl.com/nfntvch>* It seems to be regarding the death of Anna's first husband. *The Library of Congress website has a great deal of Ottawa, IL newspapers on their site. * *-Mark*

I found Augusta on the Stavangerfjord in 1928. Her home is Lowell, Montana http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/7488/NYT715_4252-0136/2004567391?backurl=http%3a%2f%2fsearch.ancestry.co.uk%2fcgi-bin%2fsse.dll%3fdb%3dnypl%26so%3d2%26pcat%3d40%26uidh%3d000%26rank%3d1%26new%3d1%26gsln%3dMelheim%26MSAV%3d1%26cp%3d0%26cpxt%3d0%26catBucket%3drstp%26sbo%3dt%26gsbco%3dSweden%26noredir%3dtrue%26gsln_x%3dXO%26gss%3dangs-c&ssrc=&backlabel=ReturnSearchResults Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com -----Original Message----- From: Lars E. Oyane via Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 6:06 PM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Ingebrigt and Augusta Melheim - emigrated 1906 toCleveland,OH - lived 1915 and 1928 in Montana - what became of them? By the way, what I also find strange as far as this family is concerned; we haven't found any passenger records for their travel FROM the US and back to Europe, neither in 1909/1910 or in 1928! Maybe the name has again been misspelt?

?Sondra Martin ? Tree pages? Owner: sondralucas_1 . ? ? . ? Arthur Joseph Hill Birth 5 Sep 1893 in Everett, Snohomish County, Washington, USA Death 13 Jan 1943 in King County, Washington, USA +Save this person to your tree ?Comment on this ?View his family tree ?View family members ?Print? More options?Overview Facts and Sources Media Gallery Comments Member Connect Media Gallery No photos, stories, audio or video have been added yet. Timeline Birth 1893 5 Sep Everett, Snohomish County, Washington, USA Marriage to Private 1932 18 Apr Age: 38 Chelan, Washington, USA Death 1943 13 Jan Age: 49 King County, Washington, USA View details + Add Comment Comments No comments have been added yet. Family Members Parents ? Andrew Hill ? ? Christina Overby1869 – 1929 ? Show siblings? Spouse & Children? ? Private ? ... View -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 6:10 PM To: <norway@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NOR] Arthur J. Hill of Seattle,WA (1892-1943) and his multiple marriages > Dear Annette and other Listers! > > I am today coming back to my inquiry from last November regarding Arthur > J. Hill and his multiple marriages in Washington state, i.e. I am actually > today concentrating on the first two of his marriages: > > Arthur Joseph HILL, born at Everett, Snohomish Co., WA Sep. 5, 1893, > married 1st time in Tacoma, WA Nov. 8, 1916 to > > ** Helen Jean COWIE, apparently born in Jefferson Co., WA Sep. 19, > 1898(?) - the daughter of Charles Andrew Cowie (MN) and Ella Alice King > (MI) - married in Seattle, WA Sep. 13, 1896 - Ella remarried in > Bellingham, WA Jan. 30, 1908 Louis Ernest Hinkelman, born in OH Feb. 12, > 1880, died Seattle, WA June 15, 1935 - he married again in Salt Lake City, > UT Jan. 25, 1917 to Nona L. Harrington - Louis must have divorced Ella, > and she may be the Helen Hinkleman "widowed" who 1920 lived in Los > Angeles, CA! > > In June of 1917 (WW1 draft) Arthur Hill was married, ship captain, resided > on 1414 5th Avenue in Seattle, WA > > They must have divorced shortly thereafter, and Arthur married again about > 1920 to > > ** Harriet Ruth aka Hattie KRUGMIRE, born in Winona Co., MN Mar. 25, 1900 > > Very strange is: I cannot find any of these three persons in the 1920 > census! > > My questions: > > **** Have I found the "right" Helen Jean COWIE? > > **** What became of Helen Jean Cowie Hill? > > **** Date and place of marriage of Arthur J. Hill and Hattie Krugmire? > > **** Where are these people in the 1920 census? > > **** Maybe the 1917 address for Arthur Hill in Seattle, WA can be followed > up in later city directories? > > In thank you again so very much for any little idea or suggestion you may > have to find the answers to these questions! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Nov 13, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Annette Bowen via wrote: > >> There was another Helen Cowie in Seattle in the 1900 census but she >> was older than Arthur. >> >> Name: Helen J Cowie >> Titles and Terms: >> Event Type: Census >> Event Year: 1900 >> Event Place: Precinct 6 Seattle city Ward 1, King, Washington, United >> States >> District: 85 >> Gender: Female >> Age: 25 >> Marital Status: Single >> Race: White >> Race (Original): W >> Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter >> Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Daughter >> Number of Living Children: >> Years Married: >> Birth Date: Jan 1875 >> Birthplace: Minn >> Marriage Year (Estimated): >> Immigration Year: >> Father's Birthplace: Scotland >> Mother's Birthplace: >> Mother of how many children: >> Sheet Number and Letter: 5A >> Household ID: 97 >> Line Number: 35 >> Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration >> (NARA) >> Affiliate Publication Number: T623 >> GS Film Number: 1241744 >> Digital Folder Number: 004118873 >> Image Number: 00672 >> >> >> Household Role Gender Age Birthplace >> Wm H Cowie Head M 58 Scotland >> Minnie R Cowie Wife F 33 Canada E >> Calanthie Cowie Daughter F 17 Oregon >> Hermeonie Cowie Daughter F 15 Wash >> Minnie Cowie Daughter F 7 Wash >> Helen J Cowie Daughter F 25 Minn >> Alex Donald Cowie Son M 22 Oregon >> >> Citing this Record: >> "United States Census, 1900," index and images, <i>FamilySearch</i> >> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MMPF-2P5 : accessed 13 Nov >> 2014), Helen J Cowie in household of Wm H Cowie, Precinct 6 Seattle >> city Ward 1, King, Washington, United States; citing sheet 5A, family >> 97, NARA microfilm publication T623, National Archives and Records >> Administration, Washington, D.C.; FHL microfilm 1241744. >> >> On 11/13/14, Annette Bowen <annette.bowen@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Here is a Helen Hinkleman in Los Angeles in 1920. >>> >>> Name: Helen Hinkleman >>> Titles and Terms: >>> Event Type: Census >>> Event Year: 1920 >>> Event Place: Los Angeles Assembly District 61, Los Angeles, >>> California, United States >>> District: 115 >>> Gender: Female >>> Age: 37 >>> Marital Status: Widowed >>> Race: White >>> Race (Original): White >>> Can Read: Yes >>> Can Write: Yes >>> Relationship to Head of Household: Companion >>> Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Companion >>> Own or Rent: >>> Birth Year (Estimated): 1883 >>> Birthplace: Michigan >>> Immigration Year: >>> Father's Birthplace: Ohio >>> Mother's Birthplace: Ohio >>> Sheet Number and Letter: 8A >>> Household ID: 209 >>> Line Number: 38 >>> Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration >>> (NARA) >>> Affiliate Publication Number: T625 >>> GS Film number: 1820105 >>> Digital Folder Number: 004293705 >>> Image Number: 00468 >>> >>> >>> Household Role Gender Age Birthplace >>> Frank E Crowder Head M 35 Utah >>> Ethelyn Crowder Wife F 35 Illinois >>> Helen Hinkleman Companion F 37 Michigan >>> >>> Citing this Record: >>> "United States Census, 1920," index and images, <i>FamilySearch</i> >>> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MHQ6-MMG : accessed 13 Nov >>> 2014), Helen Hinkleman in household of Frank E Crowder, Los Angeles >>> Assembly District 61, Los Angeles, California, United States; citing >>> sheet 8A, family 209, NARA microfilm publication T625, National >>> Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm >>> 1820105. >>> >>> On 11/13/14, Annette Bowen <annette.bowen@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I found two men named Louis Hinkelman in the World War I Draft >>>> Registration Cards, but neither had a wife named Helen. Maybe he had >>>> married someone else between 1910 and 1917. It looks like the one in >>>> Alaska died in Seattle in 1935. >>>> >>>> Name: Louis Ernest Hinkelman >>>> Event Date: 15 Jun 1935 >>>> Event Place: Seattle, King, Washington >>>> Gender: Male >>>> Race (Original): >>>> Age (Formatted): 55 years 4 months 3 days >>>> Birth Year (Estimated): 1880 >>>> Birth Date: >>>> Birthplace: >>>> Marital Status: Married >>>> Spouse's Name: Nona Hinkelman >>>> Father's Name: Charles Hinkelman >>>> Father's Birthplace: >>>> Mother's Name: Margaret Christman >>>> Mother's Birthplace: >>>> Occupation: >>>> Address: >>>> Residence Place: >>>> Cemetery: >>>> Burial Place: >>>> Burial Date: >>>> Informant's Name (Original): >>>> GS Film number: 2023298 >>>> Digital Folder Number: 4222337 >>>> Image Number: 2581 >>>> Reference ID: 2247 >>>> >>>> Citing this Record: >>>> "Washington, Death Certificates, 1907-1960," index, >>>> <i>FamilySearch</i> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N35P-BVT : >>>> accessed 13 Nov 2014), Louis Ernest Hinkelman, 15 Jun 1935; citing >>>> Seattle, King, Washington, reference 2247, Bureau of Vital Statistics, >>>> Olympia; FHL microfilm 2023298. >>>> >>>> Louis Hinkelman Jr. in Los Angeles with nearest relative his mother >>>> Margaret. >>>> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-26182-3004-19?cc=1968530 >>>> >>>> Louis Ernest Hinkelman in Anchorage, Alaska with wife Nora >>>> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-26178-16294-32?cc=1968530 >>>> >>>> There was also a Charles Louis Hinkelman in Davenport Iowa with >>>> nearest relative Helena A. Hinkelman of Los Angeles, but I think she'd >>>> be too old to be your Helen A. since she had a son born in 1884. >>>> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-26343-22384-56?cc=1968530 >>>> >>>> >>>> Annette >>>> >>>> On 11/13/14, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>> Dear Barbara, Phil, Mark, Doris, Doris, Annette and other Listers! >>>>> >>>>> Thank you all very much for interesting comments on my inquiry about >>>>> Arthur >>>>> J. Hill! I am unable to find a reference to Arthur's first marriage >>>>> to >>>>> Joan >>>>> at Davenport, WA in 1931, but maybe the Davenport licenses are among >>>>> the >>>>> ones that have not yet been added to the Washington State marriage >>>>> index! >>>>> Anyway, both of their marriages from 1932 are copied in the Washington >>>>> records, and they appear both to be complete! >>>>> >>>>> As far as Arthur's first wife Helen Jean Cowie is concerned, I see >>>>> only >>>>> one >>>>> good "candidate" in the records on ancestry.com: >>>>> >>>>> Helen Cowie, born in Jefferson Co., WA Sep. 19, 1898 to parents C. A. >>>>> Cowie >>>>> and Ella A. King. The 1900 census shows Chas Andrew Cowie (MN) and >>>>> wife >>>>> Ella Alice (MI) residing in Seattle, King Co., WA. By 1910 the mother >>>>> Helen >>>>> A. was in her 2nd marriage to Louis Hinkelmann, still residing in >>>>> Seattle, >>>>> WA. However, the daughter is listed as Helen D. Cowie!! >>>>> >>>>> Then I find no further information, neither about Helen, nor about her >>>>> mother or stepfather! Maybe other eyes can see them better? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>>>> >>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>> >>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 12, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Mark Erickson via wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Fairbanks Daily News-Miner (Fairbanks, Alaska) >>>>>> >>>>>> Monday, April 25, 1932 - Page 1 >>>>>> >>>>>> VALDEZ COUPLE TAKE OUT MARRIAGE LICENSE >>>>>> >>>>>> Wenatchee, Was., April 25 - 1932 >>>>>> >>>>>> Arthur J. Hill and Mrs. Joan M. Dillon, both of Valdez, obtained a >>>>>> marriage >>>>>> license. >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> There seems to be several articles about an Arthur Hill who is a >>>>>> miner. >>>>>> Mrs. Arthur Hill is always listed as living in Seattle. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Alaska Miner (Fairbanks, Alaska) >>>>>> >>>>>> Tuesday, Sept. 27, 1938 - Page 24 >>>>>> >>>>>> Many Former Residents Register at Sourdough Session >>>>>> >>>>>> The following former residents of Alaska were among those registered >>>>>> at >>>>>> the recent Portland sourdough convention: >>>>>> >>>>>> ….. >>>>>> >>>>>> Formerly at Wiseman >>>>>> >>>>>> Mrs. Arthur Hill - a one-time resident of Wiseman, was a convention >>>>>> attendant from Seattle, her present residence. >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sourdough Reunions >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.hougengroup.com/yukon-history/yukon-nuggets/year/1938/ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Lars E. Oyane via >>>>>> <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Listers! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some times you may wonder about people and whether you have the >>>>>>> correct >>>>>>> information. Here is one who is really giving me a hard time ....: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Arthur Joseph Hill, born in Snohomish Co., WA Sep. 5, 1892, moved as >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> child with his (divorced) mother Christine to Valdez, AK and was >>>>>>> partly >>>>>>> raised there. He returned to WA during the 1910's and was married: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1st time at Tacoma, WA Nov. 8, 1916 to Helen Jean Cowie. They are >>>>>>> listed >>>>>>> together in the 1917 Seattle, WA city directory, but then Helen >>>>>>> appears >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> have "disappeared", and I have no further information about her! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2nd time about 1920 (date and place unknown) to Harriet Ruth aka >>>>>>> Hattie >>>>>>> Krugmire, born in Winona Co., MN Mar. 25, 1900, died in Seattle, WA >>>>>>> Nov. >>>>>>> 10, 1983, but was divorced from Arthur about 1926. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3rd time at Davenport, WA June 9, 1931 to Josephine Marie aka Joan >>>>>>> M. >>>>>>> Dillon, nee Maidment, born in King Co., WA Feb. 21, 1897. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4th time at Tacoma, WA Feb. 22, 1932 to the same Joan M. Dillon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 5th time at Wenatchee, WA Apr. 18, 1932 to the same Joan M. Dillon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Arthur was a police department patrolman, and he died in Seattle, WA >>>>>>> Jan. >>>>>>> 13, 1943. Joan later married again and died at Milwaukie, OR May >>>>>>> 11, >>>>>>> 1980. Arthur had, to my knowledge, no children from either >>>>>>> marriage! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Arthur's 3rd marriage in 1931 was given to me by a relative; I don't >>>>>>> find >>>>>>> it in the Washington State marriage index. Neither do I find his >>>>>>> marriage >>>>>>> to Hattie Krugmire! But looking at the two marriage licenses from >>>>>>> 1932, >>>>>>> only 8 weeks apart, they certainly cannot be one and the same? Or >>>>>>> do >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> understand them awkward in some way? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any assistance I can get to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * identify Helen Joan Cowie >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * obtain the date and place of marriage to Hattie Krugmire >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * explain the three marriages to Joan Dillon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> would be more than welcome! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lars E. 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But we cannot find an Ole Erickson, Eriksen etc. or Urnes/Urness/Arness or Lindestegen variations born 13 May 1897. He left Bergen 11 Jun 1914 and Ellis Island record (Ole E Urnes) says he is going to his Brother Jens Ericksen And Jens is in ????burg Minnesota ? Jens Urness was in Fargo, ND when he joined up in June 1917. Tricky one... Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Holter via Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:02 AM To: Lars E. Oyane ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Ole Erickson (Urnes), born Norway 1897 - killed in WW1 - date and place? A number of soldiers died from the influenza epidemic in 1918, both in Europe and in America. Perhaps Ole Erickson/Urnes was one of those? Greg Holter

Dear Thelma and other Listers! Thank you very much, Thelma, for your latest message which included Hilda's obituary and also confirming the sale of their farm in 1933. These are great additions to have, although the obituary was rather disappointing... At least it confirms Augusta "Hilda" had no children... The only thing I can thing I can now think of, would be to contact the Yellowstone County, MT Clerk of Probate court, hoping for a probate record for Ingebrigt... Any other suggestions? Thanks again so very much for your wonderful assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 1, 2015, at 11:32 PM, Thelma Hartman wrote: > Her obituary is not much help, I am afraid > > The Billings Gazette, Tuesday, May 17, 1966 Evening edition, page 16 > Pennington Rites > Funeral services for Mrs Hilda A Pennington, 88, 2710 State St. were held Monday afternoon in Dahl-Brown Chapel. > The Rev. Gordon V Tollefson, paster of the American Lutheran Church officiated. Burial was in Sunset Memorial Gardens. > Pallbearers were Armand Gaudina, Walter Reichenberg, Jerome Anderson, Felix Webb, A. R. Hammer and Rex Foreman. > Mrs Pennington died Friday in a state hospital. She leaves a sister in law and several nieces and nephews. > > Another article related to her > > 03 February 1933 - Billings Gazette, page 10 > Public Farm Sale > Tuesday, February 7 > 12 o'clock noon, 10 miles west of Billings, 3 miles east of Laurel on Highway No 10 > Mrs. Hilda Melheim > > (the number after highway is hard to read so it could be a different number) >

Her obituary is not much help, I am afraid The Billings Gazette, Tuesday, May 17, 1966 Evening edition, page 16 Pennington Rites Funeral services for Mrs Hilda A Pennington, 88, 2710 State St. were held Monday afternoon in Dahl-Brown Chapel. The Rev. Gordon V Tollefson, paster of the American Lutheran Church officiated. Burial was in Sunset Memorial Gardens. Pallbearers were Armand Gaudina, Walter Reichenberg, Jerome Anderson, Felix Webb, A. R. Hammer and Rex Foreman. Mrs Pennington died Friday in a state hospital. She leaves a sister in law and several nieces and nephews. Another article related to her 03 February 1933 - Billings Gazette, page 10 Public Farm Sale Tuesday, February 7 12 o'clock noon, 10 miles west of Billings, 3 miles east of Laurel on Highway No 10 Mrs. Hilda Melheim (the number after highway is hard to read so it could be a different number)

Dear Thelma and other Listers! You are just amazing, Thelma! Thanks a million for your latest message which has revealed that Ingebrigt and Augusta "Hilda" were already by 1918 at Billings, MT! Still we don't see them in the 1920 census, so I am convinced they must have been omitted, for some reason... And so they were back in Sweden for a visit in 1910, they probably spent the winter there... By the way, what I also find strange as far as this family is concerned; we haven't found any passenger records for their travel FROM the US and back to Europe, neither in 1909/1910 or in 1928! Maybe the name has again been misspelt? Thanks again for your efforts, Thelma! I have a feeling we are approaching a final answer! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane PS: I don't have access to Swedish death records, but will ask the Digital Archives if anyone with access can give that a try! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Thelma Hartman wrote: > Hello Lars > > here is possibly why they can't be found in 1910 - they are travelling from Sweden to the USA in April of that year. With this in mind have you checked Sweden for his death? > > Name: Augusta Melheim > Departure Date: 1 apr 1910 > Departure Place: Göteborg (Gothenburg), Göteborg och Bohus, Sverige > Ship Name: Calypso > Birth Date: 30 sep 1877 > Birth Place: Amerika (USA) > Age: 32 > Destination: Hull, England > > Name: Auguta Melheim > Gender: Female > Age: 22 > Birth Date: abt 1888 > Departure Date: 5 Apr 1910 > Port of Departure: Liverpool, England > Destination Port: Boston, USA > Ship Name: Cymric > Search Ship Database: Search for the Cymric in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database > Shipping line: White Star Line > Official Number: 186898 > Master: John Mathias > Source Information > > Ancestry.com. UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012. > > This is most likely her in 1914 > > Name: August Melheim > Residence Year: 1914 > Street address: 305 Glendlve > Residence Place: Miles City, Montana, USA > Publication Title: Miles City, Montana, City Directory, 1914 > > and here in 1923 (it should read Hulda Melheim, Propr, Home Hotel) > > Name: Hulda Propr Home Hotel Melheim > Residence Year: 1923 > Street address: Same > Residence Place: Billings, Montana, USA > Publication Title: Billings, Montana, City Directory, 1923 > > > This may be Ingebright > > Name: Enga Melheim > Residence Year: 1918 > Street address: 2603 Mont av Billings > Residence Place: Billings, Montana, USA > Publication Title: Billings, Montana, City Directory, 1918 > >

Dear Listers! I am "stuck" on a family in La Salle Co., IL. Can someone help me? The 1880 census for Rutland township, LaSalle Co., IL shows this family: CANUTSON, Ole 33 IL Nor Nor farmer CANUTSON, Anna 28 IL Nor Nor wife IRGENS, Fredericke 4 IL Nor IL stepdaughter I believe Ole and Anna's roots go back to Rennesoy or Aardal in Rogaland; only Fredericke's father had a connection to Luster Co., Norway! Ole Canutson of LaSalle Co., IL, son of Jens Knutson and Margretha Johnson, and Anna Irgens nee Brevig of LaSalle Co., IL, daughter of Henry Brevig and Sonova Johnson were married in LaSalle Co., IL on July 18, 1878. Now I have searched ancestry.com, FamilySearch and Find-a-grave looking for this family, but to no avail. I just don't find any trace of them at all after 1880! Can anyone please help me? Maybe newspaper items can be located? Thanks a million for your great assistance! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Dear Annette and other Listers! I am today coming back to my inquiry from last November regarding Arthur J. Hill and his multiple marriages in Washington state, i.e. I am actually today concentrating on the first two of his marriages: Arthur Joseph HILL, born at Everett, Snohomish Co., WA Sep. 5, 1893, married 1st time in Tacoma, WA Nov. 8, 1916 to ** Helen Jean COWIE, apparently born in Jefferson Co., WA Sep. 19, 1898(?) - the daughter of Charles Andrew Cowie (MN) and Ella Alice King (MI) - married in Seattle, WA Sep. 13, 1896 - Ella remarried in Bellingham, WA Jan. 30, 1908 Louis Ernest Hinkelman, born in OH Feb. 12, 1880, died Seattle, WA June 15, 1935 - he married again in Salt Lake City, UT Jan. 25, 1917 to Nona L. Harrington - Louis must have divorced Ella, and she may be the Helen Hinkleman "widowed" who 1920 lived in Los Angeles, CA! In June of 1917 (WW1 draft) Arthur Hill was married, ship captain, resided on 1414 5th Avenue in Seattle, WA They must have divorced shortly thereafter, and Arthur married again about 1920 to ** Harriet Ruth aka Hattie KRUGMIRE, born in Winona Co., MN Mar. 25, 1900 Very strange is: I cannot find any of these three persons in the 1920 census! My questions: **** Have I found the "right" Helen Jean COWIE? **** What became of Helen Jean Cowie Hill? **** Date and place of marriage of Arthur J. Hill and Hattie Krugmire? **** Where are these people in the 1920 census? **** Maybe the 1917 address for Arthur Hill in Seattle, WA can be followed up in later city directories? In thank you again so very much for any little idea or suggestion you may have to find the answers to these questions! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Nov 13, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Annette Bowen via wrote: > There was another Helen Cowie in Seattle in the 1900 census but she > was older than Arthur. > > Name: Helen J Cowie > Titles and Terms: > Event Type: Census > Event Year: 1900 > Event Place: Precinct 6 Seattle city Ward 1, King, Washington, United States > District: 85 > Gender: Female > Age: 25 > Marital Status: Single > Race: White > Race (Original): W > Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter > Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Daughter > Number of Living Children: > Years Married: > Birth Date: Jan 1875 > Birthplace: Minn > Marriage Year (Estimated): > Immigration Year: > Father's Birthplace: Scotland > Mother's Birthplace: > Mother of how many children: > Sheet Number and Letter: 5A > Household ID: 97 > Line Number: 35 > Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) > Affiliate Publication Number: T623 > GS Film Number: 1241744 > Digital Folder Number: 004118873 > Image Number: 00672 > > > Household Role Gender Age Birthplace > Wm H Cowie Head M 58 Scotland > Minnie R Cowie Wife F 33 Canada E > Calanthie Cowie Daughter F 17 Oregon > Hermeonie Cowie Daughter F 15 Wash > Minnie Cowie Daughter F 7 Wash > Helen J Cowie Daughter F 25 Minn > Alex Donald Cowie Son M 22 Oregon > > Citing this Record: > "United States Census, 1900," index and images, <i>FamilySearch</i> > (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MMPF-2P5 : accessed 13 Nov > 2014), Helen J Cowie in household of Wm H Cowie, Precinct 6 Seattle > city Ward 1, King, Washington, United States; citing sheet 5A, family > 97, NARA microfilm publication T623, National Archives and Records > Administration, Washington, D.C.; FHL microfilm 1241744. > > On 11/13/14, Annette Bowen <annette.bowen@gmail.com> wrote: >> Here is a Helen Hinkleman in Los Angeles in 1920. >> >> Name: Helen Hinkleman >> Titles and Terms: >> Event Type: Census >> Event Year: 1920 >> Event Place: Los Angeles Assembly District 61, Los Angeles, >> California, United States >> District: 115 >> Gender: Female >> Age: 37 >> Marital Status: Widowed >> Race: White >> Race (Original): White >> Can Read: Yes >> Can Write: Yes >> Relationship to Head of Household: Companion >> Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Companion >> Own or Rent: >> Birth Year (Estimated): 1883 >> Birthplace: Michigan >> Immigration Year: >> Father's Birthplace: Ohio >> Mother's Birthplace: Ohio >> Sheet Number and Letter: 8A >> Household ID: 209 >> Line Number: 38 >> Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration >> (NARA) >> Affiliate Publication Number: T625 >> GS Film number: 1820105 >> Digital Folder Number: 004293705 >> Image Number: 00468 >> >> >> Household Role Gender Age Birthplace >> Frank E Crowder Head M 35 Utah >> Ethelyn Crowder Wife F 35 Illinois >> Helen Hinkleman Companion F 37 Michigan >> >> Citing this Record: >> "United States Census, 1920," index and images, <i>FamilySearch</i> >> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MHQ6-MMG : accessed 13 Nov >> 2014), Helen Hinkleman in household of Frank E Crowder, Los Angeles >> Assembly District 61, Los Angeles, California, United States; citing >> sheet 8A, family 209, NARA microfilm publication T625, National >> Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm >> 1820105. >> >> On 11/13/14, Annette Bowen <annette.bowen@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I found two men named Louis Hinkelman in the World War I Draft >>> Registration Cards, but neither had a wife named Helen. Maybe he had >>> married someone else between 1910 and 1917. It looks like the one in >>> Alaska died in Seattle in 1935. >>> >>> Name: Louis Ernest Hinkelman >>> Event Date: 15 Jun 1935 >>> Event Place: Seattle, King, Washington >>> Gender: Male >>> Race (Original): >>> Age (Formatted): 55 years 4 months 3 days >>> Birth Year (Estimated): 1880 >>> Birth Date: >>> Birthplace: >>> Marital Status: Married >>> Spouse's Name: Nona Hinkelman >>> Father's Name: Charles Hinkelman >>> Father's Birthplace: >>> Mother's Name: Margaret Christman >>> Mother's Birthplace: >>> Occupation: >>> Address: >>> Residence Place: >>> Cemetery: >>> Burial Place: >>> Burial Date: >>> Informant's Name (Original): >>> GS Film number: 2023298 >>> Digital Folder Number: 4222337 >>> Image Number: 2581 >>> Reference ID: 2247 >>> >>> Citing this Record: >>> "Washington, Death Certificates, 1907-1960," index, >>> <i>FamilySearch</i> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N35P-BVT : >>> accessed 13 Nov 2014), Louis Ernest Hinkelman, 15 Jun 1935; citing >>> Seattle, King, Washington, reference 2247, Bureau of Vital Statistics, >>> Olympia; FHL microfilm 2023298. >>> >>> Louis Hinkelman Jr. in Los Angeles with nearest relative his mother >>> Margaret. >>> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-26182-3004-19?cc=1968530 >>> >>> Louis Ernest Hinkelman in Anchorage, Alaska with wife Nora >>> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-26178-16294-32?cc=1968530 >>> >>> There was also a Charles Louis Hinkelman in Davenport Iowa with >>> nearest relative Helena A. Hinkelman of Los Angeles, but I think she'd >>> be too old to be your Helen A. since she had a son born in 1884. >>> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-26343-22384-56?cc=1968530 >>> >>> >>> Annette >>> >>> On 11/13/14, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>> Dear Barbara, Phil, Mark, Doris, Doris, Annette and other Listers! >>>> >>>> Thank you all very much for interesting comments on my inquiry about >>>> Arthur >>>> J. Hill! I am unable to find a reference to Arthur's first marriage to >>>> Joan >>>> at Davenport, WA in 1931, but maybe the Davenport licenses are among the >>>> ones that have not yet been added to the Washington State marriage >>>> index! >>>> Anyway, both of their marriages from 1932 are copied in the Washington >>>> records, and they appear both to be complete! >>>> >>>> As far as Arthur's first wife Helen Jean Cowie is concerned, I see only >>>> one >>>> good "candidate" in the records on ancestry.com: >>>> >>>> Helen Cowie, born in Jefferson Co., WA Sep. 19, 1898 to parents C. A. >>>> Cowie >>>> and Ella A. King. The 1900 census shows Chas Andrew Cowie (MN) and wife >>>> Ella Alice (MI) residing in Seattle, King Co., WA. By 1910 the mother >>>> Helen >>>> A. was in her 2nd marriage to Louis Hinkelmann, still residing in >>>> Seattle, >>>> WA. However, the daughter is listed as Helen D. Cowie!! >>>> >>>> Then I find no further information, neither about Helen, nor about her >>>> mother or stepfather! Maybe other eyes can see them better? >>>> >>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> On Nov 12, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Mark Erickson via wrote: >>>> >>>>> Fairbanks Daily News-Miner (Fairbanks, Alaska) >>>>> >>>>> Monday, April 25, 1932 - Page 1 >>>>> >>>>> VALDEZ COUPLE TAKE OUT MARRIAGE LICENSE >>>>> >>>>> Wenatchee, Was., April 25 - 1932 >>>>> >>>>> Arthur J. Hill and Mrs. Joan M. Dillon, both of Valdez, obtained a >>>>> marriage >>>>> license. >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There seems to be several articles about an Arthur Hill who is a miner. >>>>> Mrs. Arthur Hill is always listed as living in Seattle. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Alaska Miner (Fairbanks, Alaska) >>>>> >>>>> Tuesday, Sept. 27, 1938 - Page 24 >>>>> >>>>> Many Former Residents Register at Sourdough Session >>>>> >>>>> The following former residents of Alaska were among those registered at >>>>> the recent Portland sourdough convention: >>>>> >>>>> ….. >>>>> >>>>> Formerly at Wiseman >>>>> >>>>> Mrs. Arthur Hill - a one-time resident of Wiseman, was a convention >>>>> attendant from Seattle, her present residence. >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sourdough Reunions >>>>> >>>>> http://www.hougengroup.com/yukon-history/yukon-nuggets/year/1938/ >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Lars E. Oyane via >>>>> <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Listers! >>>>>> >>>>>> Some times you may wonder about people and whether you have the >>>>>> correct >>>>>> information. Here is one who is really giving me a hard time ....: >>>>>> >>>>>> Arthur Joseph Hill, born in Snohomish Co., WA Sep. 5, 1892, moved as a >>>>>> child with his (divorced) mother Christine to Valdez, AK and was >>>>>> partly >>>>>> raised there. He returned to WA during the 1910's and was married: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1st time at Tacoma, WA Nov. 8, 1916 to Helen Jean Cowie. They are >>>>>> listed >>>>>> together in the 1917 Seattle, WA city directory, but then Helen >>>>>> appears >>>>>> to >>>>>> have "disappeared", and I have no further information about her! >>>>>> >>>>>> 2nd time about 1920 (date and place unknown) to Harriet Ruth aka >>>>>> Hattie >>>>>> Krugmire, born in Winona Co., MN Mar. 25, 1900, died in Seattle, WA >>>>>> Nov. >>>>>> 10, 1983, but was divorced from Arthur about 1926. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3rd time at Davenport, WA June 9, 1931 to Josephine Marie aka Joan M. >>>>>> Dillon, nee Maidment, born in King Co., WA Feb. 21, 1897. >>>>>> >>>>>> 4th time at Tacoma, WA Feb. 22, 1932 to the same Joan M. Dillon. >>>>>> >>>>>> 5th time at Wenatchee, WA Apr. 18, 1932 to the same Joan M. Dillon. >>>>>> >>>>>> Arthur was a police department patrolman, and he died in Seattle, WA >>>>>> Jan. >>>>>> 13, 1943. Joan later married again and died at Milwaukie, OR May 11, >>>>>> 1980. Arthur had, to my knowledge, no children from either marriage! >>>>>> >>>>>> Arthur's 3rd marriage in 1931 was given to me by a relative; I don't >>>>>> find >>>>>> it in the Washington State marriage index. Neither do I find his >>>>>> marriage >>>>>> to Hattie Krugmire! But looking at the two marriage licenses from >>>>>> 1932, >>>>>> only 8 weeks apart, they certainly cannot be one and the same? Or do >>>>>> I >>>>>> understand them awkward in some way? >>>>>> >>>>>> Any assistance I can get to: >>>>>> >>>>>> * identify Helen Joan Cowie >>>>>> >>>>>> * obtain the date and place of marriage to Hattie Krugmire >>>>>> >>>>>> * explain the three marriages to Joan Dillon >>>>>> >>>>>> would be more than welcome! >>>>>> >>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>> >>>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Lars here is possibly why they can't be found in 1910 - they are travelling from Sweden to the USA in April of that year. With this in mind have you checked Sweden for his death? Name: Augusta Melheim Departure Date: 1 apr 1910 Departure Place: Göteborg (Gothenburg), Göteborg och Bohus, Sverige Ship Name: Calypso Birth Date: 30 sep 1877 Birth Place: Amerika (USA) Age: 32 Destination: Hull, England Name: Auguta Melheim Gender: Female Age: 22 Birth Date: abt 1888 Departure Date: 5 Apr 1910 Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination Port: Boston, USA Ship Name: Cymric Search Ship Database: Search for the Cymric in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping line: White Star Line Official Number: 186898 Master: John Mathias Source Information Ancestry.com. UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012. This is most likely her in 1914 Name: August Melheim Residence Year: 1914 Street address: 305 Glendlve Residence Place: Miles City, Montana, USA Publication Title: Miles City, Montana, City Directory, 1914 and here in 1923 (it should read Hulda Melheim, Propr, Home Hotel) Name: Hulda Propr Home Hotel Melheim Residence Year: 1923 Street address: Same Residence Place: Billings, Montana, USA Publication Title: Billings, Montana, City Directory, 1923 This may be Ingebright Name: Enga Melheim Residence Year: 1918 Street address: 2603 Mont av Billings Residence Place: Billings, Montana, USA Publication Title: Billings, Montana, City Directory, 1918

A number of soldiers died from the influenza epidemic in 1918, both in Europe and in America.  Perhaps Ole Erickson/Urnes was one of those? Greg Holter From: Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> To: norway@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2015 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [NOR] Ole Erickson (Urnes), born Norway 1897 - killed in WW1 - date and place? Dear Cliff and other Listers! Thank you very much, Cliff, for your new messages in regard to Ole Urness buried at Meuse-Argonne in France.  As you say, he was also born in Hafslo, but on Apr. 7, 1894 and is an entirely different person! There should, however, be a similar grave for Ole Erickson/Urnes in France...(?) Thanks again for your efforts in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

Dear Thelma and other Listers! Thank you very much, Thelma, for your continued efforts to find additional information about Ingebrigt and Augusta "Hilda" Melheim in Montana! From what you sent me last evening I read that Ingebrigt and Augusta settled in Dawson Co., MT in 1910, and it also says in one of the records that they in 1912 were ranchers at HORSE CREEK in Dawson Co., MT. I googled Horse Creek and found a tiny little place half-an-hour drive northwest of Glendive, MT with a couple of houses and what looks like a car cemetery... I have also been thinking of the possibility they returned to Norway and that Ingebrigt died there. However, if they went to Oslo, where they had lived before they emigrated, there is no death recorded for any Melheims in Oslo between 1917 and 1929! So, what happened to Ingebrigt, remains an enigma... Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 1, 2015, at 1:29 AM, Thelma Hartman via wrote: > > Hello Lars > > Here are Ingebrigt's naturalization papers (digital images) (intent and > naturalization) > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-35760-4633-63?cc=2091705&wc=M74Q-368:360535201,360543401 > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-35764-18606-41?cc=2091705&wc=M74Q-46D:360535201,360554001 > > In the second he indicates that the was in Montana since 1910 - not much > help :) > > > Thelma > >

Dear Cliff and other Listers! Thank you very much, Cliff, for your new messages in regard to Ole Urness buried at Meuse-Argonne in France. As you say, he was also born in Hafslo, but on Apr. 7, 1894 and is an entirely different person! There should, however, be a similar grave for Ole Erickson/Urnes in France...(?) Thanks again for your efforts in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 1, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Cliff Lien via wrote: > Well here is something to look into... > > I stumbled across this American Battle Monuments Commission website > http://www.abmc.gov/search-abmc-burials-and-memorializations > > There is an Ole Urness from WW I buried at Meuse-Argonne American Cemetery > Plot A Row 44 Grave 24 > Died 23 October 1918 > Entered service at Iowa (hmmmm) > Private First Class > 352nd Infantry Regiment, 88th Division > > Cliff Lien > Alberta, Canada > cjl@interbaun.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lars E. Oyane via > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 4:51 PM > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NOR] Ole Erickson (Urnes),born Norway 1897 - killed in WW1 - > date and place? > > Dear Jerrald, Cliff and other Listers! > > Thank you very much to both of you for interesting messages! > > This Ole C. Erickson who shows up in the 1920 census for St. Louis, MO, > sounds very "close", but I am not convinced it be him!? > > "Our" Ole was the son of Erik Hansson Urnes (1846-1911) and wife Margretha > Tollefsdotter (1864-1960). I notice that he is listed in the 1910 census > with birthdate May 16, 1897 rather than May 13, 1897! And the "place name" > Lindestegen is used as family name! > > The relatives of Ole's (nephews and nieces) seem quite sure that Ole was > killed in WW1 > > I should add that only one of Ole's siblings ever emigrated: Jens Erikson > Urnes, born in Hafslo, Norway Oct. 10, 1894. He emigrated in 1912 to > Minnesota and changed his name to John Erickson! BUT, his WW1 draft card > shows him as JENS URNESS of Fargo, ND with no relatives listed! He must > have changed his name AFTER the war(?)... > > So, still quite a "mystery" what became of "our" Ole!? > > Thanks again for your interest and assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ole and Lena were driving through Menominie but couldn't agree on how to pronounce it so they decided to stop for lunch and ask the waitress. They sat down to eat their lunch and called the waitress over, "Can yew tell us vhere ve are please but say it slowly", The waitress replied "Bur-ger Ki-ng" Sent from my iPad John Ferman Kingfield Neighborhood Minneapolis, MN Email in header

I did find an Ole Urness entering the service 5 Jun 1918 at Chickasaw, Iowa But his birthdate is 7 Apr 1894 He was, however, born in Haflso so maybe Lars already knows of this Ole? He works for Jens Knutson, Jacksonville Twp, Chickasaw Co and his address is New Hampton. Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com

Well here is something to look into... I stumbled across this American Battle Monuments Commission website http://www.abmc.gov/search-abmc-burials-and-memorializations There is an Ole Urness from WW I buried at Meuse-Argonne American Cemetery Plot A Row 44 Grave 24 Died 23 October 1918 Entered service at Iowa (hmmmm) Private First Class 352nd Infantry Regiment, 88th Division Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com -----Original Message----- From: Lars E. Oyane via Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 4:51 PM To: norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Ole Erickson (Urnes),born Norway 1897 - killed in WW1 - date and place? Dear Jerrald, Cliff and other Listers! Thank you very much to both of you for interesting messages! This Ole C. Erickson who shows up in the 1920 census for St. Louis, MO, sounds very "close", but I am not convinced it be him!? "Our" Ole was the son of Erik Hansson Urnes (1846-1911) and wife Margretha Tollefsdotter (1864-1960). I notice that he is listed in the 1910 census with birthdate May 16, 1897 rather than May 13, 1897! And the "place name" Lindestegen is used as family name! The relatives of Ole's (nephews and nieces) seem quite sure that Ole was killed in WW1 I should add that only one of Ole's siblings ever emigrated: Jens Erikson Urnes, born in Hafslo, Norway Oct. 10, 1894. He emigrated in 1912 to Minnesota and changed his name to John Erickson! BUT, his WW1 draft card shows him as JENS URNESS of Fargo, ND with no relatives listed! He must have changed his name AFTER the war(?)... So, still quite a "mystery" what became of "our" Ole!? Thanks again for your interest and assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hello Lars Here are Ingebrigt's naturalization papers (digital images) (intent and naturalization) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-35760-4633-63?cc=2091705&wc=M74Q-368:360535201,360543401 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-35764-18606-41?cc=2091705&wc=M74Q-46D:360535201,360554001 In the second he indicates that the was in Montana since 1910 - not much help :) Thelma

​ On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Arild Kompelien via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Important to see that Ole Kristensson was a miller. He must have been a > miller at Libergsfossen. There was a mill at Libergsfossen > (foss=waterfall). The mill itself was called Sønsterudkvern > (kvern=mill). So Libergsfossen and Sønsterudkvern may be used for the > same place. > > Arild Kompelien > > Den 28.02.2015 16:26, skrev Cliff Lien via: > > Ole Christensen is here at Floberg Søndre in the 1801 census. > > The family starts at record #2676 > > > > > http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=22&filnamn=f18010424&gardpostnr=101&personpostnr=2676&merk=2676#ovre > > > > There are a few Libergsfos bruks here and there is Aasnes over the years. > > I could not find one under Floberg though... > > > > That is one tough christening record - I can never get started with the > > really old records... > > > > Cliff Lien > > Alberta, Canada > > cjl@interbaun.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lars E. Oyane via > > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 12:17 AM > > To: norway@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [NOR] Handwriting Assistance Requested: Kirsti Olsdatter, > > Hof,Hedmark > > > > Dear James, > > > > I am not acquainted in the Hof Aasnes area, so the farm names may not be > > correct, but I read the text as follows: > > > > "Ole Xstens(en) [Liebergsfossen] og Johanne Hansd(atter) b(arn) N(omine) > > Kirstj, F(addere) Soren Jons(en) og Soren Arnes(en) Lille Sonsterud, > Gunnild > > Syversd(atter) Ingelsrud, Ragnild Olsd(atter) Toverud" > > > > Hopefully this gives some meaning to you? > > > > Very sincerely yours, > > > > Lars E. Oyane > > > > ​Lars, Cliff, Arild, and other List members, Thank you for your feedback on this record. Lars, your transcription is wonderful! Thank you for deciphering the handwriting.​ You have an amazing eye, and no doubt much knowledge and experience. ​Cliff, I find that the records before the standardized forms were used are often much harder to decipher simply because there is a lot less context available to make sense of the content. Regarding Floberg, I found that the family is listed as living at Floberg Søndre in Aasnes, Hoff in the 1801 census. I don't find any of the names listed at Floberg Søndre that Lars extracted out of the parish record, so it appears that the family moved in the five years between the baptism of Kirsti in 1796 and the census. I suspect the lineage I was given. She lived at Lilleberg (or Berg Lille) in Romedal, Hedmark, by the time she was married in 1812, if all of the records I have gathered truly represent the same person. Arild, that is an interesting point about Ole's occupation. He is listed in the 1801 census as "Selv ejer og møller", which Google Translate stumbles over a little, even using Danish as the source language. But it appears to mean that he owned a mill. Any thought on whether this family might have been of Forest Finn lineage? I feel a little uncertain that I have the right Kirsti Olsdatter all the way through from baptism to marriage due to the family's apparent repeated moves. I will see if I can research her further to eliminate possible confusion with someone else. ​Again, thank you all!​ -- James Aylard

Dear Jerrald, Cliff and other Listers! Thank you very much to both of you for interesting messages! This Ole C. Erickson who shows up in the 1920 census for St. Louis, MO, sounds very "close", but I am not convinced it be him!? "Our" Ole was the son of Erik Hansson Urnes (1846-1911) and wife Margretha Tollefsdotter (1864-1960). I notice that he is listed in the 1910 census with birthdate May 16, 1897 rather than May 13, 1897! And the "place name" Lindestegen is used as family name! The relatives of Ole's (nephews and nieces) seem quite sure that Ole was killed in WW1 I should add that only one of Ole's siblings ever emigrated: Jens Erikson Urnes, born in Hafslo, Norway Oct. 10, 1894. He emigrated in 1912 to Minnesota and changed his name to John Erickson! BUT, his WW1 draft card shows him as JENS URNESS of Fargo, ND with no relatives listed! He must have changed his name AFTER the war(?)... So, still quite a "mystery" what became of "our" Ole!? Thanks again for your interest and assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Feb 27, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Cliff Lien via wrote: > I guess the Ole below fits not badly, but is Ole Ericksen Urnes 13 May 1897 > the son of Margrethe Jensdatter and Ivar Eriksen? > > I don't see anywhere where he was drafted for WWI - Maybe enlisted after the > war? > Note the Ole below is married... > > I can't find Ole born 13 May 1897 anywhere in Norway in 1910 ??? > > Cliff Lien > Alberta, Canada > cjl@interbaun.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerrald Lloyd via > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 9:27 PM > To: Lars E. Oyane ; norway@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NOR] Ole Erickson (Urnes),born Norway 1897 - killed in WW1 - > date and place? > > Ole C Erickson in the 1920 United States Federal Census > > Name: Ole C Erickson > Age: 23 > Birth Year: abt 1897 > Birthplace:Norway > Home in 1920: Jefferson Barracks, St Louis, Missouri > Street: Jefferson Barracks Mo > Race: White > Gender: Male > Immigration Year: 1914 > Marital Status: Married > Father's Birthplace: Norway > Mother's Birthplace: Norway > Native Tongue: Norwegian > Able to Speak English: Yes > Occupation: Laborer > Industry: Prt USArmy > Employment Field: Wage or Salary > Naturalization Status: Naturalized > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message