Save ? ?Print Anna Gurianna Hultgren in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Record Image Go to website ?Add alternate information !Report issue Name: Anna Gurianna Hultgren [Anna Gurianna Monsdotter] Birth Date: 23 Dec 1851 Birth Place: Norway Death Date: 1 Apr 1924 Death Place: USA Cemetery: Union Creek Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Union County, South Dakota, USA Has Bio?: N Spouse: John Per Hultgren Children: Elmer Adolph Hultgren Hannah Maria Hultgren URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-... Save ? Cancel -------------------------------------------------- From: "Yvonne Morehouse via" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 8:01 AM To: <norway@rootsweb.com> Subject: [NOR] A puzzle never solved - Anna Hultgren > When I return from an appointment (if I can get my car out of the snow > in Virginia) I'll re-post a request for Anna Hultgren, b. Feb 1854 in > Vang i Valdres, Oppland, Norway who arrived in Quebec from Norway in > 1890. This request will give Listers some very hard work as no one has > ever found even a hint about Anna once she landed in Quebec. > > The question is "What Happened To Anna?" > > Her husband, Per Hultgren (who preceded her to the U.S) and the kids > ended up in Brown County, South Dakota and finally in Todd County, > Minnesota but Anna...once in Quebec she disappears off the face of the > Earth! Did she die? Run away with someone? Hide in an attic? > > The great Norwegian A Team even tackled this problem some years > but...so, far, no answers. > > Details coming shortly. > > Smiles, Yvonne > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

When I return from an appointment (if I can get my car out of the snow in Virginia) I'll re-post a request for Anna Hultgren, b. Feb 1854 in Vang i Valdres, Oppland, Norway who arrived in Quebec from Norway in 1890. This request will give Listers some very hard work as no one has ever found even a hint about Anna once she landed in Quebec. The question is "What Happened To Anna?" Her husband, Per Hultgren (who preceded her to the U.S) and the kids ended up in Brown County, South Dakota and finally in Todd County, Minnesota but Anna...once in Quebec she disappears off the face of the Earth! Did she die? Run away with someone? Hide in an attic? The great Norwegian A Team even tackled this problem some years but...so, far, no answers. Details coming shortly. Smiles, Yvonne

Hello Brenda, There are a few surnames Ryden later in time in Norway. -Was Johan August married to a Norwegian? (that might be of help in finding a weddingrecord) -Have there been children left of his family in Norway? -Do you have census information in America or from where he immigrated -What did the naturalization papers mention from Norway (a location?) May be other listers have other ideas Kind regards Reina -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- From: Brenda Clement via Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:38 AM To: NORWAY@rootsweb.com Subject: [NOR] Johan August Rydeen I have had no luck finding Johan August Rydeen or Rydén in Sweden where he was born. His naturalization papers states he is from Sweden and Norway so trying your board. I know it is very likely he had a different last name in Sweden/Norway. I have birthdate of 01 Nov 1833 in Smaland, Sweden. He states he arrived to the United States 10 Aug 1858. Are there any Norway records that show him? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not much Lars but here is a death notice Joplin Globe 27 January 1970, page 5 Nels N. Kins Miami, Okla - Nels N. Kins, 89, died at 3 am Monday in Miami Baptist Hospital where he had been a patient since last Wednesday. Mr Kins was born August 17 1880 in Wisconsin and had been a resident of Miami the last 25 years. He had been a patient in a Miami nursing home 17 years. He was a member of the Lutheran Church. There are no immidiate survivors. Services will be announced by Cooper Funeral Home of Miami. Nels N. KINS born Aug. 17, 1880 in Buffalo Co., WI died Jan. 26, 1970 at Miami, Ottawa Co., OK

Do you have this information? John August Rydeen Birth Nov.1,1833 in Skane Ian, Sweden Death 3 Aug,1925 in Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota, United States +Save this person to your tree ?Comment on this ?View his family tree ?View family members ?Print? More options?Overview Facts and Sources Media Gallery Comments Member Connect Media Gallery Rydeen Family John Rydeen John Rydeen ?Photos (3) ?Stories (0) ?Audio (0) ?Video (0) View All Timeline 10 Sources? Birth 1833 1 Nov Skane Ian, Sweden 2 Sources? Arrival 1858 Age: 25 Age: 25 2 Sources? Marriage to Martha L Nelson 1865 3 Nov Age: 32 1 Source? Residence 1870 Age: 37 Taylors Falls, Chisago, Minnesota, United States 1 Source? Residence 1875 1 May Age: 41 Taylors Falls, Chisago, Minnesota, USA 1 Source? Residence 1880 Age: 47 Taylors Falls, Chisago, Minnesota, United States 1 Source? Residence 1885 1 May Age: 51 Taylors Falls, Chisago, Minnesota, USA 1 Source? Residence 1895 Age: 62 Taylors Falls, Chisago, Minnesota, USA 1 Source? Residence 1900 Age: 67 Taylors Falls, Chisago, Minnesota, USAAge: 66; Marital Status: Married; Relation to Head of House: Head 1 Source? Residence 1905 26 Jun Age: 71 Taylors Falls, Chisago, Minnesota, USA 1 Source? Residence 1910 Age: 77 Taylor Falls, Chisago, MinnesotaAge in 1910: 76; Marital Status: Widowed; Relation to Head of House: Head 1 Source? Residence 1920 Age: 87 Taylors Falls, Chisago, Minnesota, USAMarital Status: Widowed; Marital Status: Widow; Relation to Head of House: Father 2 Sources? Death 1925 3 Aug Age: 91 Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota, United States 1 Source? Burial Taylors Falls, Chisago County, Minnesota, USA View details + Add Comment Comments No comments have been added yet. Family Members Parents ? No Father ? No Mother Spouse & Children? ? Martha Lisa Swenson1833 – 1910 ? . Spouse & Children? Martha L Nelson1832 – 1910 ? Mary Ann Rydeen1867 – 1921 ? ? Charles W. Rydeen1870 – 1933 ? ? Martha Elizabeth Rydeen1871 – 1871 ? Frank Rydeen1874 – 1923 ? ... 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Support Center Ancestry Blog Site Map Gift Memberships Careers Visit our other sites:United StatesUnited KingdomCanada (English)Canada (Français)AustraliaDeutschlandItaliaFranceSverigeMéxicoAncestry.com CorporateAncestry.ie CorporateFamilyTreeMaker.comFold3.comMyCanvas.comNewspapers.comProgenealogists.comRootsWeb.com . ·© 1997-2015 Ancestry·Corporate Information·Privacy·Terms and Conditions·Member Services Share . -------------------------------------------------- From: "Barbara Young via" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 5:37 AM To: "nukilik" <nukilik@xs4all.nl>; <norway@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NOR] Johan August Rydeen > Hi Brenda, > > Is it possible he lived in Norway for a while while awaiting passage? > Do you know which departure port was - or the name of the ship, or > shipping agent? This to see if he did leave from Norway. > > If he arrived in New York , he would have been processed at Castle > Island. Ellis Island didn't open until 1892. Other possibilities are > St. Albans VT > Boston, Halilfax Nova Scotia. or some other port in Canada. Since it was > summer, the passage would have been open. Do you know his destination or > where he lived after arriving? > > All the best > Barbara in MA > > > On 3/6/2015 2:41 AM, nukilik via wrote: >> Hello Brenda, >> >> There are a few surnames Ryden later in time in Norway. >> -Was Johan August married to a Norwegian? (that might be of help in >> finding >> a weddingrecord) >> -Have there been children left of his family in Norway? >> -Do you have census information in America or from where he immigrated >> -What did the naturalization papers mention from Norway (a location?) >> >> May be other listers have other ideas >> >> Kind regards >> Reina >> >> >> >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> From: Brenda Clement via >> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:38 AM >> To: NORWAY@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [NOR] Johan August Rydeen >> >> I have had no luck finding Johan August Rydeen or Rydén in Sweden where >> he >> was born. His naturalization papers states he is from Sweden and Norway >> so >> trying your board. I know it is very likely he had a different last name >> in >> Sweden/Norway. >> >> >> >> I have birthdate of 01 Nov 1833 in Smaland, Sweden. He states he arrived >> to >> the United States 10 Aug 1858. Are there any Norway records that show >> him? >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

I am on full agreement with Reina, I have learned so very much from Lars' posts and the answers he gets, I can't find the words thank you all. The levity is very welcome - being alone it is nice to have a few smiles during the day. I have been snow and ice bound for 2 months.:} All the best Barbara in very snowy and icy MA Cold, also. P.S., The Gulf Stream usually moderates the weather a bit but not this winter - I sure hope it has been keeping Norway more comfortable.:} On 3/6/2015 7:45 AM, nukilik via wrote: > Yes please Lars, stay at NorwayList! > Reina > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > From: Lars E. Oyane via > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:22 PM > To: norway@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NOR] Recent emails...... > > Dear Clark! > > One is attempted to think that noone else has any genealogical problems any > more... > > I just wanted to let you know; I have been a lister for MANY years, and I > always get such wonderful assistance from various listers to enlighten me on > some of these very "elusive" emigrants from Luster Co., Norway. I guess you > may say that I LOVE the list and the listers. Without your assistance in > many of these questions I would NEVER have been able to present a bygdebook > as complete as it is, and from which I know that many many people will > profit in the years to come! > > And once I am done with my work I intend to keep on helping as many of you > as possible to solve your problems! I know I will never reach up to Viggo > Fosse or Daraleen, but I can give it a try... > > I send my best greetings from Germany to the Country of the Rising Sun! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mar 6, 2015, at 6:37 AM, C&M Pederson via wrote: > >> I have a question: >> Did Lars Oyane "hijack" The Norway List? >> It seems like that's the only chatter on this list any more. >> Have a nice day! >> Clark in Japan >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Clark! One is attempted to think that noone else has any genealogical problems any more... I just wanted to let you know; I have been a lister for MANY years, and I always get such wonderful assistance from various listers to enlighten me on some of these very "elusive" emigrants from Luster Co., Norway. I guess you may say that I LOVE the list and the listers. Without your assistance in many of these questions I would NEVER have been able to present a bygdebook as complete as it is, and from which I know that many many people will profit in the years to come! And once I am done with my work I intend to keep on helping as many of you as possible to solve your problems! I know I will never reach up to Viggo Fosse or Daraleen, but I can give it a try... I send my best greetings from Germany to the Country of the Rising Sun! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 6, 2015, at 6:37 AM, C&M Pederson via wrote: > I have a question: > Did Lars Oyane "hijack" The Norway List? > It seems like that's the only chatter on this list any more. > Have a nice day! > Clark in Japan >

Maybe we should send messages to the others : Come to the A-team where your answers lie at: Norway@rootsweb.com.:}? Barbara in MA On 3/6/2015 6:57 AM, nukilik via wrote: > Better ask the question which other list(s) have been "hijacked" by our > NorwayListers....??? Where did they go? > > You too: a nice day! > Reina > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > From: C&M Pederson via > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 12:37 PM > To: Norway List > Subject: [NOR] Recent emails...... > > I have a question: > Did Lars Oyane "hijack" The Norway List? > It seems like that's the only chatter on this list any more. > Have a nice day! > Clark in Japan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Brenda, Is it possible he lived in Norway for a while while awaiting passage? Do you know which departure port was - or the name of the ship, or shipping agent? This to see if he did leave from Norway. If he arrived in New York , he would have been processed at Castle Island. Ellis Island didn't open until 1892. Other possibilities are St. Albans VT Boston, Halilfax Nova Scotia. or some other port in Canada. Since it was summer, the passage would have been open. Do you know his destination or where he lived after arriving? All the best Barbara in MA On 3/6/2015 2:41 AM, nukilik via wrote: > Hello Brenda, > > There are a few surnames Ryden later in time in Norway. > -Was Johan August married to a Norwegian? (that might be of help in finding > a weddingrecord) > -Have there been children left of his family in Norway? > -Do you have census information in America or from where he immigrated > -What did the naturalization papers mention from Norway (a location?) > > May be other listers have other ideas > > Kind regards > Reina > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > From: Brenda Clement via > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:38 AM > To: NORWAY@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NOR] Johan August Rydeen > > I have had no luck finding Johan August Rydeen or Rydén in Sweden where he > was born. His naturalization papers states he is from Sweden and Norway so > trying your board. I know it is very likely he had a different last name in > Sweden/Norway. > > > > I have birthdate of 01 Nov 1833 in Smaland, Sweden. He states he arrived to > the United States 10 Aug 1858. Are there any Norway records that show him? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here is Find A Grave with most of what Brenda mentions included... http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=44950170 Cliff Lien Alberta, Canada cjl@interbaun.com -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Young via Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 4:37 AM To: nukilik ; norway@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NOR] Johan August Rydeen Hi Brenda, Is it possible he lived in Norway for a while while awaiting passage? Do you know which departure port was - or the name of the ship, or shipping agent? This to see if he did leave from Norway. If he arrived in New York , he would have been processed at Castle Island. Ellis Island didn't open until 1892. Other possibilities are St. Albans VT Boston, Halilfax Nova Scotia. or some other port in Canada. Since it was summer, the passage would have been open. Do you know his destination or where he lived after arriving? All the best Barbara in MA On 3/6/2015 2:41 AM, nukilik via wrote: > Hello Brenda, > > There are a few surnames Ryden later in time in Norway. > -Was Johan August married to a Norwegian? (that might be of help in > finding > a weddingrecord) > -Have there been children left of his family in Norway? > -Do you have census information in America or from where he immigrated > -What did the naturalization papers mention from Norway (a location?) > > May be other listers have other ideas > > Kind regards > Reina > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > From: Brenda Clement via > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 1:38 AM > To: NORWAY@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NOR] Johan August Rydeen > > I have had no luck finding Johan August Rydeen or Rydén in Sweden where he > was born. His naturalization papers states he is from Sweden and Norway so > trying your board. I know it is very likely he had a different last name > in > Sweden/Norway. > > > > I have birthdate of 01 Nov 1833 in Smaland, Sweden. He states he arrived > to > the United States 10 Aug 1858. Are there any Norway records that show him? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers! I have for quite some time tried to find the PLACES of these two marriages, but so far to no avail: Otto Daniel BOLSTAD, born in Pope Co., MN Jne 21, 1901, died at Chelan, WA Feb. 20, 1989 He was married 1st time June 10, 1926 - presumably in or near Evanston, IL - to Minnie Blanche COOK, born at Toronto, ON Sep. 16, 1902, died in Portland, OR Dec. 22, 1945 He was married 2nd time Nov. 11, 1950 - presumably in Sequim, WA or in Anchorage, AK - to Cecile Pearl REINKE, nee BLANCHARD, born in Waushara Co., WI June 23, 1894, died in Spokane, WA Sep. 10, 1966 He also married a 3rd time at Coeur d'Alene, ID Oct. 13, 1969, but that marriage has been taken care of before... I am rather "stumped" with the fact that I cannot find these marriages anywhere, so now I ask you, dear Listers, whether you can help me? Maybe newspaper announcements can be found? Thanks a million in advance for your great assistance in this matter! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane

I have had no luck finding Johan August Rydeen or Rydén in Sweden where he was born. His naturalization papers states he is from Sweden and Norway so trying your board. I know it is very likely he had a different last name in Sweden/Norway. I have birthdate of 01 Nov 1833 in Smaland, Sweden. He states he arrived to the United States 10 Aug 1858. Are there any Norway records that show him?

Dear Lars, Is it possible that her father died when she was young and her mother re-married and she took the name of her step father? All the best Sincerely. Barbara in MA On 3/5/2015 1:45 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Listers! > > I am happy to inform you tonight that a break-through has finally been reached as far as this problem is concerned! The problem has been thoroughly discussed on NORWAY-Heritage since yesterday, and today one of the listers discovered that Myrtle's parents were Maurice and Diana CHRISTIANSON rather than NEARGARDER! Still we don't know why she "pretended" being a Neargarder when she married Philip Phillis at Edgerton, WI in 1943. She MAY of course have been first married to a Neargarder, but her father's last name shouldn't have been changed for that reason! Or maybe the registrar at Janesville, WI just made a mistake when issuing the marriage license... That is the most likely answer... > > Well, anyway, here is Myrtle's death record from California: > > Name: Myrtle D Wells > [Myrtle D Christenson] > Social Security #: 348187037 > Gender: Female > Birth Date: 6 Oct 1915 > Birth Place: Wisconsin > Death Date: 4 Jul 1991 > Death Place: Humboldt > Mother's Maiden Name: Gjerstad > Father's Surname: Christenson > > Thus the problem is more-or-less solved, but her last husband "Mr." Wells is unknown, and I have requested an obituary from California.... > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mar 4, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > >> Dear Jerrald and other Listers! >> >> Thank you very much, Jerrald, for your latest comments on this Myrtle Neargarder problem of mine. >> >> Unfortunately, if I am not mistaken, these items have been brought up previously, and we can be pretty certain Myrtle is NOT the one who in 1943 lived at Waukegan, IL >> >> Maybe we must search assistance in NEWSPAPER ARCHIVES for further information about this very "elusive" person and her parents? >> >> So strange that absolutely NOTHING can be found...! >> >> Thanks again for your great assistance! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On Mar 3, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Jerrald Lloyd via wrote: >> >>> Diana Neargarder in the U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1 >>> >>> Record Image Index-only record >>> >>> ?Add alternate information >>> !Report issue >>> >>> Name: >>> Diana Neargarder >>> >>> Address: >>> 7271 E Greenville Pike, Union City, IN, 47390-8497 (1989) >>> >>> Save ? Cancel >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:21 PM >>> To: <norway@rootsweb.com> >>> Subject: Re: [NOR] Myrtle Devina Neargarder from Cambridge,WI (born >>> 1914/1915) - who was she? >>> >>>> Dear Listers! >>>> >>>> I have today received some additional information about Myrtle Neargarder, >>>> but does it help? >>>> >>>> Her mother's full name was DIANE JERSTID - another unusual last name! >>>> >>>> How do we find out more about Morrise NEARGARDER and Diane JRSTIF who in >>>> 1914/1915 shall have resided at Cambridge, Jefferson Co.,WI? I am >>>> completely "stuck"! >>>> >>>> Thanks a million for any suggestions that can bring us forward! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> On Feb 2, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Wanda and other Listers! >>>>> >>>>> Thank you very much, Wanda, for your latest comment on this family from >>>>> Saturday! >>>>> >>>>> Suspecting a misinterpretation of the record I have this morning called >>>>> the Rock County Register of Deeds Office atJanesville, WI to have it >>>>> verified, but the same information came up: >>>>> >>>>> The bride in the Aug. 28, 1943 wedding is indeed Myrtle Devina >>>>> Neargarder. She was born in Cambridge, WI, was 28 years old, daughter of >>>>> Morrise and Diana Neargarder and worked at the Edgerton shoe company! >>>>> >>>>> So, who was this Myrtle, who is nowhere to be found in any census >>>>> records?? >>>>> >>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>> >>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 31, 2015, at 1:40 PM, DON HENDERSON via wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I know this isn't answering your marriage questions, but found an ad on >>>>>> Newspapers.com in The Daily Herald, Chicago, Illinois, 6 Apr 1934, pg 6: >>>>>> >>>>>> WILSON NEARGARDERWell Digging and General Concrete WorkLet me Figure >>>>>> Your JobsReasonable PricesPh. Deerfield 365Deerfield, Ill. >>>>>> Wanda >>>>>> >>>>>> On Saturday, January 31, 2015 7:47 AM, Lars E. Oyane via >>>>>> <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Jerrald, Wanda and other Listers! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you very much for your interesting comments on this Myrtle >>>>>> Neargarder problem of mine. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not at all sure, but I feel we are searching for a different >>>>>> Myrtle... My information comes from a marriage license transcript, and >>>>>> although the transcriber may have made errors transcribing, I can hardly >>>>>> think Wilson Neargarder can have been a first husband of Phillip >>>>>> Phillips' wife Myrtle!? >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess there are two actions that can bring us closer to an answer in >>>>>> the current matter: >>>>>> >>>>>> * Rechecking the actual marriage license at the Rock Co. courthouse at >>>>>> Janesville, WI? >>>>>> >>>>>> * Finding a newspaper announcement of the Aug. 28, 1943 wedding at >>>>>> Edgerton, WI? >>>>>> >>>>>> Do we have any listers who live in that neighborhood who can possibly >>>>>> help? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>>>>> >>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>> >>>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>>> >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 8:42 PM, DON HENDERSON via wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 'Name of Person who w/always know your address' - Myrtle Margaret >>>>>>> Neargarder. Could Devina be a maiden name? Where did parent names come >>>>>>> from? - Wanda >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | Name: | Wilson Neargarder | >>>>>>> | Event Type: | Draft Registration | >>>>>>> | Event Date: | 1942 | >>>>>>> | Event Place: | Waukegan, Lake, Illinois, United States | >>>>>>> | Gender: | Male | >>>>>>> | Birth Date: | 16 Oct 1896 | >>>>>>> | Affiliate ARC Identifier: | 623284 | >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Affiliate Publication Title: World War II Draft Cards (4th >>>>>>> Registration) for the State of Illinois , Affiliate Publication >>>>>>> Number: M2097 , GS Film Number: 2369915 , Digital Folder Number: >>>>>>> 004134839 , Image Number: 00423 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:07 PM, Jerrald Lloyd via >>>>>>> <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Myrtle Neargarder in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Name: >>>>>>> Myrtle Neargarder >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gender: >>>>>>> Female >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Residence Year: >>>>>>> 1943 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Street address: >>>>>>> 624 N Jackson >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Residence Place: >>>>>>> Waukegan; North Chicago, Illinois, USA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Spouse: >>>>>>> Wilson Neargarder >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Publication Title: >>>>>>> Waukegan, Illinois, City Directory, 1943 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:30 PM >>>>>>> To: <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> Subject: [NOR] Myrtle Devina Neargarder from Cambridge,WI (born >>>>>>> 1914/1915) - >>>>>>> who was she? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Listers! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Every once in a while one runs across names that just seem to be >>>>>>>> "picked >>>>>>>> out of a hat" with no known connections. This one of those which I >>>>>>>> hope >>>>>>>> someone is able to help me identify: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Martin Phillips (1857-1917) emigrated from Hafslo parish, Luster Co., >>>>>>>> Norway in 1882, married a girl from Rauland in Telemark and lived in >>>>>>>> Porter township, Rock Co., WI. His only son was: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Phillip Olous Phillips, born in Dane Co., WI Dec. 15, 1899, died at >>>>>>>> Edgerton, WI May 22, 1953. He was married at Edgerton, WI Aug. 28, >>>>>>>> 1943 >>>>>>>> to: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MYRTLE DEVINA NEARGARDER, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> presumably born at Cambridge, Jefferson Co., WI in 1914 or 1915 as the >>>>>>>> daughter of Morrise Neargarder and his wife Diana. Phillip and Myrtle >>>>>>>> resided at Edgerton, Rock Co., WI, but divorced already in 1946. They >>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>> no children! What later became of Myrtle is a mystery.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So now my question to you is the following: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Who was this Myrtle? I don't find any trace of her in the 1920, >>>>>>>> 1930 or >>>>>>>> 1940 censuses; neither do I find a reference to her parents! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could it be I have the name wrong? Maybe a newspaper item would >>>>>>>> mention >>>>>>>> her or at least the Edgerton, WI wedding from 1943? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any suggestions would be more than welcome! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lars E. Oyane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Listers! I am happy to inform you tonight that a break-through has finally been reached as far as this problem is concerned! The problem has been thoroughly discussed on NORWAY-Heritage since yesterday, and today one of the listers discovered that Myrtle's parents were Maurice and Diana CHRISTIANSON rather than NEARGARDER! Still we don't know why she "pretended" being a Neargarder when she married Philip Phillis at Edgerton, WI in 1943. She MAY of course have been first married to a Neargarder, but her father's last name shouldn't have been changed for that reason! Or maybe the registrar at Janesville, WI just made a mistake when issuing the marriage license... That is the most likely answer... Well, anyway, here is Myrtle's death record from California: Name: Myrtle D Wells [Myrtle D Christenson] Social Security #: 348187037 Gender: Female Birth Date: 6 Oct 1915 Birth Place: Wisconsin Death Date: 4 Jul 1991 Death Place: Humboldt Mother's Maiden Name: Gjerstad Father's Surname: Christenson Thus the problem is more-or-less solved, but her last husband "Mr." Wells is unknown, and I have requested an obituary from California.... Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 4, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Jerrald and other Listers! > > Thank you very much, Jerrald, for your latest comments on this Myrtle Neargarder problem of mine. > > Unfortunately, if I am not mistaken, these items have been brought up previously, and we can be pretty certain Myrtle is NOT the one who in 1943 lived at Waukegan, IL > > Maybe we must search assistance in NEWSPAPER ARCHIVES for further information about this very "elusive" person and her parents? > > So strange that absolutely NOTHING can be found...! > > Thanks again for your great assistance! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mar 3, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Jerrald Lloyd via wrote: > >> Diana Neargarder in the U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1 >> >> Record Image Index-only record >> >> ?Add alternate information >> !Report issue >> >> Name: >> Diana Neargarder >> >> Address: >> 7271 E Greenville Pike, Union City, IN, 47390-8497 (1989) >> >> Save ? Cancel >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:21 PM >> To: <norway@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [NOR] Myrtle Devina Neargarder from Cambridge,WI (born >> 1914/1915) - who was she? >> >>> Dear Listers! >>> >>> I have today received some additional information about Myrtle Neargarder, >>> but does it help? >>> >>> Her mother's full name was DIANE JERSTID - another unusual last name! >>> >>> How do we find out more about Morrise NEARGARDER and Diane JRSTIF who in >>> 1914/1915 shall have resided at Cambridge, Jefferson Co.,WI? I am >>> completely "stuck"! >>> >>> Thanks a million for any suggestions that can bring us forward! >>> >>> Very sincerely yours, >>> >>> Lars E. Oyane >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> On Feb 2, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Wanda and other Listers! >>>> >>>> Thank you very much, Wanda, for your latest comment on this family from >>>> Saturday! >>>> >>>> Suspecting a misinterpretation of the record I have this morning called >>>> the Rock County Register of Deeds Office atJanesville, WI to have it >>>> verified, but the same information came up: >>>> >>>> The bride in the Aug. 28, 1943 wedding is indeed Myrtle Devina >>>> Neargarder. She was born in Cambridge, WI, was 28 years old, daughter of >>>> Morrise and Diana Neargarder and worked at the Edgerton shoe company! >>>> >>>> So, who was this Myrtle, who is nowhere to be found in any census >>>> records?? >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> On Jan 31, 2015, at 1:40 PM, DON HENDERSON via wrote: >>>> >>>>> I know this isn't answering your marriage questions, but found an ad on >>>>> Newspapers.com in The Daily Herald, Chicago, Illinois, 6 Apr 1934, pg 6: >>>>> >>>>> WILSON NEARGARDERWell Digging and General Concrete WorkLet me Figure >>>>> Your JobsReasonable PricesPh. Deerfield 365Deerfield, Ill. >>>>> Wanda >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, January 31, 2015 7:47 AM, Lars E. Oyane via >>>>> <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear Jerrald, Wanda and other Listers! >>>>> >>>>> Thank you very much for your interesting comments on this Myrtle >>>>> Neargarder problem of mine. >>>>> >>>>> I am not at all sure, but I feel we are searching for a different >>>>> Myrtle... My information comes from a marriage license transcript, and >>>>> although the transcriber may have made errors transcribing, I can hardly >>>>> think Wilson Neargarder can have been a first husband of Phillip >>>>> Phillips' wife Myrtle!? >>>>> >>>>> I guess there are two actions that can bring us closer to an answer in >>>>> the current matter: >>>>> >>>>> * Rechecking the actual marriage license at the Rock Co. courthouse at >>>>> Janesville, WI? >>>>> >>>>> * Finding a newspaper announcement of the Aug. 28, 1943 wedding at >>>>> Edgerton, WI? >>>>> >>>>> Do we have any listers who live in that neighborhood who can possibly >>>>> help? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>>>> >>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>> >>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 8:42 PM, DON HENDERSON via wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> 'Name of Person who w/always know your address' - Myrtle Margaret >>>>>> Neargarder. Could Devina be a maiden name? Where did parent names come >>>>>> from? - Wanda >>>>>> >>>>>> | Name: | Wilson Neargarder | >>>>>> | Event Type: | Draft Registration | >>>>>> | Event Date: | 1942 | >>>>>> | Event Place: | Waukegan, Lake, Illinois, United States | >>>>>> | Gender: | Male | >>>>>> | Birth Date: | 16 Oct 1896 | >>>>>> | Affiliate ARC Identifier: | 623284 | >>>>>> >>>>>> Affiliate Publication Title: World War II Draft Cards (4th >>>>>> Registration) for the State of Illinois , Affiliate Publication >>>>>> Number: M2097 , GS Film Number: 2369915 , Digital Folder Number: >>>>>> 004134839 , Image Number: 00423 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:07 PM, Jerrald Lloyd via >>>>>> <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Myrtle Neargarder in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 >>>>>> >>>>>> Name: >>>>>> Myrtle Neargarder >>>>>> >>>>>> Gender: >>>>>> Female >>>>>> >>>>>> Residence Year: >>>>>> 1943 >>>>>> >>>>>> Street address: >>>>>> 624 N Jackson >>>>>> >>>>>> Residence Place: >>>>>> Waukegan; North Chicago, Illinois, USA >>>>>> >>>>>> Spouse: >>>>>> Wilson Neargarder >>>>>> >>>>>> Publication Title: >>>>>> Waukegan, Illinois, City Directory, 1943 >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:30 PM >>>>>> To: <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Subject: [NOR] Myrtle Devina Neargarder from Cambridge,WI (born >>>>>> 1914/1915) - >>>>>> who was she? >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Listers! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Every once in a while one runs across names that just seem to be >>>>>>> "picked >>>>>>> out of a hat" with no known connections. This one of those which I >>>>>>> hope >>>>>>> someone is able to help me identify: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Martin Phillips (1857-1917) emigrated from Hafslo parish, Luster Co., >>>>>>> Norway in 1882, married a girl from Rauland in Telemark and lived in >>>>>>> Porter township, Rock Co., WI. His only son was: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Phillip Olous Phillips, born in Dane Co., WI Dec. 15, 1899, died at >>>>>>> Edgerton, WI May 22, 1953. He was married at Edgerton, WI Aug. 28, >>>>>>> 1943 >>>>>>> to: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MYRTLE DEVINA NEARGARDER, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> presumably born at Cambridge, Jefferson Co., WI in 1914 or 1915 as the >>>>>>> daughter of Morrise Neargarder and his wife Diana. Phillip and Myrtle >>>>>>> resided at Edgerton, Rock Co., WI, but divorced already in 1946. They >>>>>>> had >>>>>>> no children! What later became of Myrtle is a mystery.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So now my question to you is the following: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Who was this Myrtle? I don't find any trace of her in the 1920, >>>>>>> 1930 or >>>>>>> 1940 censuses; neither do I find a reference to her parents! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could it be I have the name wrong? Maybe a newspaper item would >>>>>>> mention >>>>>>> her or at least the Edgerton, WI wedding from 1943? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any suggestions would be more than welcome! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lars E. Oyane

Dear Lars, Wonderful news.:} Hurrah! Sincerely, Barbara in MA On 3/4/2015 4:06 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Listers! > > Tonight I wish to compliment the NorCal list! I sent an inquiry in regard to Helen Hinkleman looking in particular for her daughter Helen Jean Cowie who was Arthur J. Hill's 1st wife. > > Well, at the end of the day I have learned that Helen Jean nee Cowie married again in San Diego, CA in March of 1929 to James Neville of Woodlawn, PA (41). In 1930 James was a prisoner in the San Diego, CA prison. > > Helen Jean married then again in Ventura Co., CA July 6, 1937 to Milton Gregory Segura, a native of Louisiana, and in 1940 I find him as the owner of a liquor store in Los Angeles, CA where they both died, Helen on Dec. 24, 1971! > > This information just about completes what I needed to find out about Arthur J. Hill and his multiple marriages, and I can only say as we do on the 17th of May in Norway: "Hurrah"! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mar 4, 2015, at 9:07 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > >> Dear Annette, Leslie and other Listers! >> >> Thank you very much for your latest comments on the Arthur Hill problem! >> >> I am happy to hear you found the divorce of Helen and Samuel (it should be Louis!) Hinkelman in 1912, but there is no need to send it when it doesn't give any further details. I suppose you didn't find the one of Arthur and Helen Jean Hill, or did you? >> >> It is interesting to learn that Helen Hinkleman is buried at Colma, CA, but what a huge cemetery with almost 180.000 burials! I will try a phone call when daylight reaches California, but I have also sent an inquiry for help to the NorCal list hoping to find someone who can help me further... >> >> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On Mar 4, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Annette Bowen via wrote: >> >>> Findagrave.com shows Helen Hinkleman buried in Cypress Lawn Memorial Park, Colma, San Mateo County, California, USA, but it doesn't show her tombstone or have any information on her except her date of death. Maybe you could get information from the cemetery. >>> >>> http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=87837159 >>> >>> Annette >>> >>> On 3/4/15, Annette Bowen <annette.bowen@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Lars, >>>> I found divorce decrees in the Seattle Sunday Times, Dec. 1, 1912 that mentioned Helen Alice Hinkelman from Samuel Ernest Hinkelman, nonsupport. I can send it to you off-list if you want it, but that is the only information it gives. I didn't find her obit. >>>> >>>> Annette >>>> >>>> On 3/3/15, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>> Dear Listers, >>>>> >>>>> Following up on my own suggestion I have found the death record for Helen Jean nee Cowie's mother: >>>>> >>>>> Name: Helen Alice Hinkleman >>>>> Event Type: Death >>>>> Event Date: 07 Oct 1952 >>>>> Event Place: San Francisco, California, United States >>>>> Birth Date: 21 May 1878 >>>>> Birthplace: Unknown >>>>> Gender: Female >>>>> Father's Name: King >>>>> >>>>> However, getting original death records from San Francisco, CA is expensive and takes a long time... Maybe an obituary can be found...? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>>>> >>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>> >>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 3, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Doris and other Listers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you very much, Doris, for your latest comment on "my" Arthur Hill problem! >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess finding the actual divorce record for Arthur and his 1st wife Helen Jean nee Cowie is NOT the big item in this matter. Much more important to me would it be to find out what happened to her AFTER she divorced Arthur? >>>>>> >>>>>> I have received a copy of Helen Jean's stepfather Louis Hinkelman's death certificate from Seattle, WA from June 15, 1935, hoping that might be of help to trace Helen Jean, but was disappointed. As I already said before, Louis married a 2nd time in 1917 to this Nona Harrington of Prince Albert, >>>>>> SK, and he was himself a resident of Great Falls, MT at the time! He sure got around, didn't he? He divorced Nona as well, and he was cremated. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, I guess, if we cannot find Helen Jean nee Cowie, born 1898, we must try to figure out what became of her mother: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ella Alice who in 1920 was "widowed" and living as someone's companion in Los Angeles, CA under the name of Helen Hinkleman, born in Michigan about 1881? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again for your great efforts trying to help me in this matter! >>>>>> >>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>> >>>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>>> >>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 2, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Doris Waggoner via wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Lars, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know how far back the newspaper lists go for divorces in WA (or in Seattle, I should say). Divorces are not listed now, but in 1940 they were, as I somehow found a listing in one of the Seattle papers for a divorce filed in 1937, and granted in 1940. I don't remember how I did that, or if they were listed far enough back to help you. Not sure I'm any help to you on this one! And I'm too busy with other projects tonight to hunt. Other listers might be able to look for them, though. An interesting man, Arthur Hill! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Doris >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Jerrald, Barbara, Bill and other Listers! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you very much for your comments on my Arthur Hill problem! I was particularly delighted to receive the newspaper clippings that you Bill have found and sent offline! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Among the items you sent was a listing of a number of marriage licenses issued in King Co., WA in late August/early September of 1919, and this list includes: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Arthur J. Hill and Harriet R. Krugmis (should have been Krugmire!) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have compared the list with the marriage licenses figuring on the official Washington site, and there is one discrepancy: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Arthur A. Hill and Ruth A. Kiner >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> were married by the Justice of the Peace at Seattle, WA on Aug. 26, 1919. These names do NOT figure in the list of licenses in King Co., WA, and I strongly suspect this has to be OUR couple. Harriet "Hattie"'s middle name was RUTH, and Kiner may be a "simplification" of Krugmire. Arthur's father's name was Andrew, so he could very well use "A" as a middle initial. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What do you Listers think? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This shows how fantastic the newspaper articles may sometimes be, and it gives inspiration to search for other items! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe there are similar DIVORCE COLUMNS in the newspaper archives? Or how can we find out what happened to Helen Jean Cowie, Arthur's 1st wife? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2015, at 4:50 PM, Bill Henshaw wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Lars, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can't remember if I sent any of these last year when you were asking about this person, but I thought you might find these interesting. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The one from 1919 talks about his marriage license with Hattie. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The ones from 1943 show his obit and death announcement. Strangely it shows him being born in Oslo, not Everett. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The others talk about his escapades as a policemen. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 04:10 pm, Lars E. Oyane via >>>>>>>>> <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Annette and other Listers! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am today coming back to my inquiry from last November regarding Arthur J. Hill and his multiple marriages in Washington state, i.e. I am actually today concentrating on the first two of his marriages: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Arthur Joseph HILL, born at Everett, Snohomish Co., WA Sep. 5, 1893, married 1st time in Tacoma, WA Nov. 8, 1916 to >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Helen Jean COWIE, apparently born in Jefferson Co., WA Sep. 19, 1898(?) - the daughter of Charles Andrew Cowie (MN) and Ella Alice King (MI) - married in Seattle, WA Sep. 13, 1896 - Ella remarried in Bellingham, WA Jan. 30, 1908 Louis Ernest Hinkelman, born in OH Feb. 12, 1880, died Seattle, WA June 15, 1935 - he married again in Salt Lake City, UT Jan. 25, 1917 to Nona L. Harrington - Louis must have divorced Ella, and she may be the Helen Hinkleman "widowed" who 1920 lived in Los Angeles, CA! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In June of 1917 (WW1 draft) Arthur Hill was married, ship captain, resided on 1414 5th Avenue in Seattle, WA >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> They must have divorced shortly thereafter, and Arthur married again about 1920 to >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Harriet Ruth aka Hattie KRUGMIRE, born in Winona Co., MN Mar. 25, 1900 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Very strange is: I cannot find any of these three persons in the 1920 census! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My questions: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **** Have I found the "right" Helen Jean COWIE? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **** What became of Helen Jean Cowie Hill? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **** Date and place of marriage of Arthur J. Hill and Hattie Krugmire? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **** Where are these people in the 1920 census? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **** Maybe the 1917 address for Arthur Hill in Seattle, WA can be followed up in later city directories? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I thank you again so very much for any little idea or suggestion you may have to find the answers to these questions! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Listers! Tonight I wish to compliment the NorCal list! I sent an inquiry in regard to Helen Hinkleman looking in particular for her daughter Helen Jean Cowie who was Arthur J. Hill's 1st wife. Well, at the end of the day I have learned that Helen Jean nee Cowie married again in San Diego, CA in March of 1929 to James Neville of Woodlawn, PA (41). In 1930 James was a prisoner in the San Diego, CA prison. Helen Jean married then again in Ventura Co., CA July 6, 1937 to Milton Gregory Segura, a native of Louisiana, and in 1940 I find him as the owner of a liquor store in Los Angeles, CA where they both died, Helen on Dec. 24, 1971! This information just about completes what I needed to find out about Arthur J. Hill and his multiple marriages, and I can only say as we do on the 17th of May in Norway: "Hurrah"! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 4, 2015, at 9:07 AM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: > Dear Annette, Leslie and other Listers! > > Thank you very much for your latest comments on the Arthur Hill problem! > > I am happy to hear you found the divorce of Helen and Samuel (it should be Louis!) Hinkelman in 1912, but there is no need to send it when it doesn't give any further details. I suppose you didn't find the one of Arthur and Helen Jean Hill, or did you? > > It is interesting to learn that Helen Hinkleman is buried at Colma, CA, but what a huge cemetery with almost 180.000 burials! I will try a phone call when daylight reaches California, but I have also sent an inquiry for help to the NorCal list hoping to find someone who can help me further... > > Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mar 4, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Annette Bowen via wrote: > >> Findagrave.com shows Helen Hinkleman buried in Cypress Lawn Memorial Park, Colma, San Mateo County, California, USA, but it doesn't show her tombstone or have any information on her except her date of death. Maybe you could get information from the cemetery. >> >> http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=87837159 >> >> Annette >> >> On 3/4/15, Annette Bowen <annette.bowen@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Lars, >>> I found divorce decrees in the Seattle Sunday Times, Dec. 1, 1912 that mentioned Helen Alice Hinkelman from Samuel Ernest Hinkelman, nonsupport. I can send it to you off-list if you want it, but that is the only information it gives. I didn't find her obit. >>> >>> Annette >>> >>> On 3/3/15, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>> Dear Listers, >>>> >>>> Following up on my own suggestion I have found the death record for Helen Jean nee Cowie's mother: >>>> >>>> Name: Helen Alice Hinkleman >>>> Event Type: Death >>>> Event Date: 07 Oct 1952 >>>> Event Place: San Francisco, California, United States >>>> Birth Date: 21 May 1878 >>>> Birthplace: Unknown >>>> Gender: Female >>>> Father's Name: King >>>> >>>> However, getting original death records from San Francisco, CA is expensive and takes a long time... Maybe an obituary can be found...? >>>> >>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> On Mar 3, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Doris and other Listers, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you very much, Doris, for your latest comment on "my" Arthur Hill problem! >>>>> >>>>> I guess finding the actual divorce record for Arthur and his 1st wife Helen Jean nee Cowie is NOT the big item in this matter. Much more important to me would it be to find out what happened to her AFTER she divorced Arthur? >>>>> >>>>> I have received a copy of Helen Jean's stepfather Louis Hinkelman's death certificate from Seattle, WA from June 15, 1935, hoping that might be of help to trace Helen Jean, but was disappointed. As I already said before, Louis married a 2nd time in 1917 to this Nona Harrington of Prince Albert, >>>>> SK, and he was himself a resident of Great Falls, MT at the time! He sure got around, didn't he? He divorced Nona as well, and he was cremated. >>>>> >>>>> So, I guess, if we cannot find Helen Jean nee Cowie, born 1898, we must try to figure out what became of her mother: >>>>> >>>>> Ella Alice who in 1920 was "widowed" and living as someone's companion in Los Angeles, CA under the name of Helen Hinkleman, born in Michigan about 1881? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again for your great efforts trying to help me in this matter! >>>>> >>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>> >>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 2, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Doris Waggoner via wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Lars, >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know how far back the newspaper lists go for divorces in WA (or in Seattle, I should say). Divorces are not listed now, but in 1940 they were, as I somehow found a listing in one of the Seattle papers for a divorce filed in 1937, and granted in 1940. I don't remember how I did that, or if they were listed far enough back to help you. Not sure I'm any help to you on this one! And I'm too busy with other projects tonight to hunt. Other listers might be able to look for them, though. An interesting man, Arthur Hill! >>>>>> >>>>>> Doris >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Jerrald, Barbara, Bill and other Listers! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you very much for your comments on my Arthur Hill problem! I was particularly delighted to receive the newspaper clippings that you Bill have found and sent offline! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Among the items you sent was a listing of a number of marriage licenses issued in King Co., WA in late August/early September of 1919, and this list includes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Arthur J. Hill and Harriet R. Krugmis (should have been Krugmire!) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have compared the list with the marriage licenses figuring on the official Washington site, and there is one discrepancy: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Arthur A. Hill and Ruth A. Kiner >>>>>>> >>>>>>> were married by the Justice of the Peace at Seattle, WA on Aug. 26, 1919. These names do NOT figure in the list of licenses in King Co., WA, and I strongly suspect this has to be OUR couple. Harriet "Hattie"'s middle name was RUTH, and Kiner may be a "simplification" of Krugmire. Arthur's father's name was Andrew, so he could very well use "A" as a middle initial. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you Listers think? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This shows how fantastic the newspaper articles may sometimes be, and it gives inspiration to search for other items! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe there are similar DIVORCE COLUMNS in the newspaper archives? Or how can we find out what happened to Helen Jean Cowie, Arthur's 1st wife? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2015, at 4:50 PM, Bill Henshaw wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Lars, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can't remember if I sent any of these last year when you were asking about this person, but I thought you might find these interesting. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The one from 1919 talks about his marriage license with Hattie. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The ones from 1943 show his obit and death announcement. Strangely it shows him being born in Oslo, not Everett. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The others talk about his escapades as a policemen. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 04:10 pm, Lars E. Oyane via >>>>>>>> <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Annette and other Listers! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am today coming back to my inquiry from last November regarding Arthur J. Hill and his multiple marriages in Washington state, i.e. I am actually today concentrating on the first two of his marriages: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Arthur Joseph HILL, born at Everett, Snohomish Co., WA Sep. 5, 1893, married 1st time in Tacoma, WA Nov. 8, 1916 to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** Helen Jean COWIE, apparently born in Jefferson Co., WA Sep. 19, 1898(?) - the daughter of Charles Andrew Cowie (MN) and Ella Alice King (MI) - married in Seattle, WA Sep. 13, 1896 - Ella remarried in Bellingham, WA Jan. 30, 1908 Louis Ernest Hinkelman, born in OH Feb. 12, 1880, died Seattle, WA June 15, 1935 - he married again in Salt Lake City, UT Jan. 25, 1917 to Nona L. Harrington - Louis must have divorced Ella, and she may be the Helen Hinkleman "widowed" who 1920 lived in Los Angeles, CA! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In June of 1917 (WW1 draft) Arthur Hill was married, ship captain, resided on 1414 5th Avenue in Seattle, WA >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They must have divorced shortly thereafter, and Arthur married again about 1920 to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** Harriet Ruth aka Hattie KRUGMIRE, born in Winona Co., MN Mar. 25, 1900 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Very strange is: I cannot find any of these three persons in the 1920 census! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My questions: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **** Have I found the "right" Helen Jean COWIE? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **** What became of Helen Jean Cowie Hill? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **** Date and place of marriage of Arthur J. Hill and Hattie Krugmire? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **** Where are these people in the 1920 census? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **** Maybe the 1917 address for Arthur Hill in Seattle, WA can be followed up in later city directories? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I thank you again so very much for any little idea or suggestion you may have to find the answers to these questions! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lars E. Oyane > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You've probably already seen this, but if not, at http://home.online.no/ someone has put up a well referenced site on Otte Jacobsen Friis in Romsdal at http://home.online.no/~aaroenes/moldefolk/personer/f/friis_otte_jacobsen.htm Best wishes ------------------------ *From:* "Lisbeth Dyrnes" <lisbeth.dyrnes@gmail.com <https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=lisbeth.dyrnes@gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: [NOR] norwegian priests *Date:* Tue, 3 Mar 2015 20:46:18 +0100 *References:* <mailman.229.1425369627.20438.norway@rootsweb.com>< 482538030.2068117.1425407826970.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Maybe you can find something here? http://www.genealogi.no/content/register-over-prester-i-salten-prosti Lisbeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Wilson via" <norway@rootsweb.com <https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=norway@rootsweb.com>> To: <norway@rootsweb.com <https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=norway@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [NOR] norwegian priests > There are several I'm looking for. Morten Hansen (or Vicensen) Helm who > died in Romsdal but was also a parish priest in Hammarøy. His son Vicens > Mortensen Helm (Holm) was parish priest in Skjersted. And Morten's brother > in law, Otte Jacobsen Friis who was a priest in Romsdal (?). > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com <https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cm&fs=1&tf=1&to=NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Listers! I have been working on this problem for years, but have never managed to come up with any adequate reply! Maria Johannesdotter Urness aka Hill aka Hogan aka Kins aka Johnson, daughter of "husmann" Johannes Monsson and wife Maria Hansdotter, livig on the Haugen place in Kinserdal valley, Urness farm in Hafslo parish, Luster Co., Norway, was born in Hafslo Aug. 26, 1865, but emigrated in 1885. Maria had four older brothers and two older sisters who all emigrated to the US between 1867 and 1882. They went by different last names, Urness, Kins, Hill and Hogan. They all "started out" in Buffalo Co., WI and lived there at the time Maria emigrated in 1885. The ONLY reference to Maria's destiny comes from a biography of one of her brothers which refers to "sister Mary Johnson lived near Chicago, IL". I SUPPOSE she must have married someone named JOHNSON, but I am unable to identify her in any census records in Illinois! Any suggestions that may solve this problem, would be very much appreciated! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane PS: This inquiry is being posted simultaneously on the NORWAY Rootsweb-list, NORWAY-HERITAGE-list and the Norwegian Digital Archives. Information of importance which shows up on any of the other lists, will be reposted here.

LOCAL SCHOOL GRADUATE MADE DEPUTY PROSECUTOR A. J. Hill Appointed to the Vacancy Caused by Promotion of Arthur Keech A. J. Hill, who was graduated from the law school of the University of Southern California class of 1909, yesterday was appointed a deputy district attorney at the branch office at the police station to fill the vacancy resulting from the promotion of Deputy District Attorney Arthur Keetch, who is assigned to duty at the court house. Mr. Hill is one of the few members of the graduating class of 1909 who completed the three-year, course in two years. Since he received his diploma Hill has been associated with several prominent law firms. He recently was connected with a real estate firm, resigning from the company to accept a deputyshlp under District Attorney Fredericks. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 8:07 AM To: <norway@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NOR] Arthur J. Hill of Seattle,WA (1892-1943) and his multiple marriages > Dear Annette, Leslie and other Listers! > > Thank you very much for your latest comments on the Arthur Hill problem! > > I am happy to hear you found the divorce of Helen and Samuel (it should be > Louis!) Hinkelman in 1912, but there is no need to send it when it doesn't > give any further details. I suppose you didn't find the one of Arthur and > Helen Jean Hill, or did you? > > It is interesting to learn that Helen Hinkleman is buried at Colma, CA, > but what a huge cemetery with almost 180.000 burials! I will try a phone > call when daylight reaches California, but I have also sent an inquiry for > help to the NorCal list hoping to find someone who can help me further... > > Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! > > Very sincerely yours, > > Lars E. Oyane > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Mar 4, 2015, at 1:11 AM, Annette Bowen via wrote: > >> Findagrave.com shows Helen Hinkleman buried in Cypress Lawn Memorial >> Park, Colma, San Mateo County, California, USA, but it doesn't show her >> tombstone or have any information on her except her date of death. Maybe >> you could get information from the cemetery. >> >> http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=87837159 >> >> Annette >> >> On 3/4/15, Annette Bowen <annette.bowen@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Lars, >>> I found divorce decrees in the Seattle Sunday Times, Dec. 1, 1912 that >>> mentioned Helen Alice Hinkelman from Samuel Ernest Hinkelman, >>> nonsupport. I can send it to you off-list if you want it, but that is >>> the only information it gives. I didn't find her obit. >>> >>> Annette >>> >>> On 3/3/15, Lars E. Oyane via <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>> Dear Listers, >>>> >>>> Following up on my own suggestion I have found the death record for >>>> Helen Jean nee Cowie's mother: >>>> >>>> Name: Helen Alice Hinkleman >>>> Event Type: Death >>>> Event Date: 07 Oct 1952 >>>> Event Place: San Francisco, California, United States >>>> Birth Date: 21 May 1878 >>>> Birthplace: Unknown >>>> Gender: Female >>>> Father's Name: King >>>> >>>> However, getting original death records from San Francisco, CA is >>>> expensive and takes a long time... Maybe an obituary can be found...? >>>> >>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> On Mar 3, 2015, at 11:54 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Doris and other Listers, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you very much, Doris, for your latest comment on "my" Arthur >>>>> Hill problem! >>>>> >>>>> I guess finding the actual divorce record for Arthur and his 1st wife >>>>> Helen Jean nee Cowie is NOT the big item in this matter. Much more >>>>> important to me would it be to find out what happened to her AFTER she >>>>> divorced Arthur? >>>>> >>>>> I have received a copy of Helen Jean's stepfather Louis Hinkelman's >>>>> death certificate from Seattle, WA from June 15, 1935, hoping that >>>>> might be of help to trace Helen Jean, but was disappointed. As I >>>>> already said before, Louis married a 2nd time in 1917 to this Nona >>>>> Harrington of Prince Albert, >>>>> SK, and he was himself a resident of Great Falls, MT at the time! He >>>>> sure got around, didn't he? He divorced Nona as well, and he was >>>>> cremated. >>>>> >>>>> So, I guess, if we cannot find Helen Jean nee Cowie, born 1898, we >>>>> must try to figure out what became of her mother: >>>>> >>>>> Ella Alice who in 1920 was "widowed" and living as someone's companion >>>>> in Los Angeles, CA under the name of Helen Hinkleman, born in Michigan >>>>> about 1881? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again for your great efforts trying to help me in this matter! >>>>> >>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>> >>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>> >>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 2, 2015, at 9:02 PM, Doris Waggoner via wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Lars, >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know how far back the newspaper lists go for divorces in WA >>>>>> (or in Seattle, I should say). Divorces are not listed now, but in >>>>>> 1940 they were, as I somehow found a listing in one of the Seattle >>>>>> papers for a divorce filed in 1937, and granted in 1940. I don't >>>>>> remember how I did that, or if they were listed far enough back to >>>>>> help you. Not sure I'm any help to you on this one! And I'm too >>>>>> busy with other projects tonight to hunt. Other listers might be >>>>>> able to look for them, though. An interesting man, Arthur Hill! >>>>>> >>>>>> Doris >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Lars E. Oyane via >>>>>> <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Jerrald, Barbara, Bill and other Listers! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you very much for your comments on my Arthur Hill problem! I >>>>>>> was particularly delighted to receive the newspaper clippings that >>>>>>> you Bill have found and sent offline! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Among the items you sent was a listing of a number of marriage >>>>>>> licenses issued in King Co., WA in late August/early September of >>>>>>> 1919, and this list includes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Arthur J. Hill and Harriet R. Krugmis (should have been Krugmire!) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have compared the list with the marriage licenses figuring on the >>>>>>> official Washington site, and there is one discrepancy: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Arthur A. Hill and Ruth A. Kiner >>>>>>> >>>>>>> were married by the Justice of the Peace at Seattle, WA on Aug. 26, >>>>>>> 1919. These names do NOT figure in the list of licenses in King >>>>>>> Co., WA, and I strongly suspect this has to be OUR couple. Harriet >>>>>>> "Hattie"'s middle name was RUTH, and Kiner may be a "simplification" >>>>>>> of Krugmire. Arthur's father's name was Andrew, so he could very >>>>>>> well use "A" as a middle initial. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you Listers think? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This shows how fantastic the newspaper articles may sometimes be, >>>>>>> and it gives inspiration to search for other items! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe there are similar DIVORCE COLUMNS in the newspaper archives? >>>>>>> Or how can we find out what happened to Helen Jean Cowie, Arthur's >>>>>>> 1st wife? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2015, at 4:50 PM, Bill Henshaw wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Lars, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can't remember if I sent any of these last year when you were >>>>>>>> asking about this person, but I thought you might find these >>>>>>>> interesting. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The one from 1919 talks about his marriage license with Hattie. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The ones from 1943 show his obit and death announcement. Strangely >>>>>>>> it shows him being born in Oslo, not Everett. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The others talk about his escapades as a policemen. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 04:10 pm, Lars E. Oyane via >>>>>>>> <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear Annette and other Listers! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am today coming back to my inquiry from last November regarding >>>>>>>>> Arthur J. Hill and his multiple marriages in Washington state, >>>>>>>>> i.e. I am actually today concentrating on the first two of his >>>>>>>>> marriages: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Arthur Joseph HILL, born at Everett, Snohomish Co., WA Sep. 5, >>>>>>>>> 1893, married 1st time in Tacoma, WA Nov. 8, 1916 to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** Helen Jean COWIE, apparently born in Jefferson Co., WA Sep. 19, >>>>>>>>> 1898(?) - the daughter of Charles Andrew Cowie (MN) and Ella Alice >>>>>>>>> King (MI) - married in Seattle, WA Sep. 13, 1896 - Ella remarried >>>>>>>>> in Bellingham, WA Jan. 30, 1908 Louis Ernest Hinkelman, born in OH >>>>>>>>> Feb. 12, 1880, died Seattle, WA June 15, 1935 - he married again >>>>>>>>> in Salt Lake City, UT Jan. 25, 1917 to Nona L. Harrington - >>>>>>>>> Louis must have divorced Ella, and she may be the Helen Hinkleman >>>>>>>>> "widowed" who 1920 lived in Los Angeles, CA! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In June of 1917 (WW1 draft) Arthur Hill was married, ship captain, >>>>>>>>> resided on 1414 5th Avenue in Seattle, WA >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> They must have divorced shortly thereafter, and Arthur married >>>>>>>>> again about 1920 to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** Harriet Ruth aka Hattie KRUGMIRE, born in Winona Co., MN Mar. >>>>>>>>> 25, 1900 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Very strange is: I cannot find any of these three persons in the >>>>>>>>> 1920 census! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My questions: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **** Have I found the "right" Helen Jean COWIE? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **** What became of Helen Jean Cowie Hill? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **** Date and place of marriage of Arthur J. Hill and Hattie >>>>>>>>> Krugmire? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **** Where are these people in the 1920 census? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> **** Maybe the 1917 address for Arthur Hill in Seattle, WA can be >>>>>>>>> followed up in later city directories? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I thank you again so very much for any little idea or suggestion >>>>>>>>> you may have to find the answers to these questions! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lars E. Oyane > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NORWAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Dear Jerrald and other Listers! Thank you very much, Jerrald, for your latest comments on this Myrtle Neargarder problem of mine. Unfortunately, if I am not mistaken, these items have been brought up previously, and we can be pretty certain Myrtle is NOT the one who in 1943 lived at Waukegan, IL Maybe we must search assistance in NEWSPAPER ARCHIVES for further information about this very "elusive" person and her parents? So strange that absolutely NOTHING can be found...! Thanks again for your great assistance! Very sincerely yours, Lars E. Oyane ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Mar 3, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Jerrald Lloyd via wrote: > Diana Neargarder in the U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1 > > Record Image Index-only record > > ?Add alternate information > !Report issue > > Name: > Diana Neargarder > > Address: > 7271 E Greenville Pike, Union City, IN, 47390-8497 (1989) > > Save ? Cancel > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:21 PM > To: <norway@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [NOR] Myrtle Devina Neargarder from Cambridge,WI (born > 1914/1915) - who was she? > >> Dear Listers! >> >> I have today received some additional information about Myrtle Neargarder, >> but does it help? >> >> Her mother's full name was DIANE JERSTID - another unusual last name! >> >> How do we find out more about Morrise NEARGARDER and Diane JRSTIF who in >> 1914/1915 shall have resided at Cambridge, Jefferson Co.,WI? I am >> completely "stuck"! >> >> Thanks a million for any suggestions that can bring us forward! >> >> Very sincerely yours, >> >> Lars E. Oyane >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> On Feb 2, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Lars E. Oyane via wrote: >> >>> Dear Wanda and other Listers! >>> >>> Thank you very much, Wanda, for your latest comment on this family from >>> Saturday! >>> >>> Suspecting a misinterpretation of the record I have this morning called >>> the Rock County Register of Deeds Office atJanesville, WI to have it >>> verified, but the same information came up: >>> >>> The bride in the Aug. 28, 1943 wedding is indeed Myrtle Devina >>> Neargarder. She was born in Cambridge, WI, was 28 years old, daughter of >>> Morrise and Diana Neargarder and worked at the Edgerton shoe company! >>> >>> So, who was this Myrtle, who is nowhere to be found in any census >>> records?? >>> >>> Very sincerely yours, >>> >>> Lars E. Oyane >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2015, at 1:40 PM, DON HENDERSON via wrote: >>> >>>> I know this isn't answering your marriage questions, but found an ad on >>>> Newspapers.com in The Daily Herald, Chicago, Illinois, 6 Apr 1934, pg 6: >>>> >>>> WILSON NEARGARDERWell Digging and General Concrete WorkLet me Figure >>>> Your JobsReasonable PricesPh. Deerfield 365Deerfield, Ill. >>>> Wanda >>>> >>>> On Saturday, January 31, 2015 7:47 AM, Lars E. Oyane via >>>> <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Jerrald, Wanda and other Listers! >>>> >>>> Thank you very much for your interesting comments on this Myrtle >>>> Neargarder problem of mine. >>>> >>>> I am not at all sure, but I feel we are searching for a different >>>> Myrtle... My information comes from a marriage license transcript, and >>>> although the transcriber may have made errors transcribing, I can hardly >>>> think Wilson Neargarder can have been a first husband of Phillip >>>> Phillips' wife Myrtle!? >>>> >>>> I guess there are two actions that can bring us closer to an answer in >>>> the current matter: >>>> >>>> * Rechecking the actual marriage license at the Rock Co. courthouse at >>>> Janesville, WI? >>>> >>>> * Finding a newspaper announcement of the Aug. 28, 1943 wedding at >>>> Edgerton, WI? >>>> >>>> Do we have any listers who live in that neighborhood who can possibly >>>> help? >>>> >>>> Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter! >>>> >>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>> >>>> Lars E. Oyane >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 8:42 PM, DON HENDERSON via wrote: >>>> >>>>> 'Name of Person who w/always know your address' - Myrtle Margaret >>>>> Neargarder. Could Devina be a maiden name? Where did parent names come >>>>> from? - Wanda >>>>> >>>>> | Name: | Wilson Neargarder | >>>>> | Event Type: | Draft Registration | >>>>> | Event Date: | 1942 | >>>>> | Event Place: | Waukegan, Lake, Illinois, United States | >>>>> | Gender: | Male | >>>>> | Birth Date: | 16 Oct 1896 | >>>>> | Affiliate ARC Identifier: | 623284 | >>>>> >>>>> Affiliate Publication Title: World War II Draft Cards (4th >>>>> Registration) for the State of Illinois , Affiliate Publication >>>>> Number: M2097 , GS Film Number: 2369915 , Digital Folder Number: >>>>> 004134839 , Image Number: 00423 >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, January 29, 2015 3:07 PM, Jerrald Lloyd via >>>>> <norway@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Myrtle Neargarder in the U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 >>>>> >>>>> Name: >>>>> Myrtle Neargarder >>>>> >>>>> Gender: >>>>> Female >>>>> >>>>> Residence Year: >>>>> 1943 >>>>> >>>>> Street address: >>>>> 624 N Jackson >>>>> >>>>> Residence Place: >>>>> Waukegan; North Chicago, Illinois, USA >>>>> >>>>> Spouse: >>>>> Wilson Neargarder >>>>> >>>>> Publication Title: >>>>> Waukegan, Illinois, City Directory, 1943 >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "Lars E. Oyane via" <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:30 PM >>>>> To: <norway@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Subject: [NOR] Myrtle Devina Neargarder from Cambridge,WI (born >>>>> 1914/1915) - >>>>> who was she? >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Listers! >>>>>> >>>>>> Every once in a while one runs across names that just seem to be >>>>>> "picked >>>>>> out of a hat" with no known connections. This one of those which I >>>>>> hope >>>>>> someone is able to help me identify: >>>>>> >>>>>> Martin Phillips (1857-1917) emigrated from Hafslo parish, Luster Co., >>>>>> Norway in 1882, married a girl from Rauland in Telemark and lived in >>>>>> Porter township, Rock Co., WI. His only son was: >>>>>> >>>>>> Phillip Olous Phillips, born in Dane Co., WI Dec. 15, 1899, died at >>>>>> Edgerton, WI May 22, 1953. He was married at Edgerton, WI Aug. 28, >>>>>> 1943 >>>>>> to: >>>>>> >>>>>> MYRTLE DEVINA NEARGARDER, >>>>>> >>>>>> presumably born at Cambridge, Jefferson Co., WI in 1914 or 1915 as the >>>>>> daughter of Morrise Neargarder and his wife Diana. Phillip and Myrtle >>>>>> resided at Edgerton, Rock Co., WI, but divorced already in 1946. They >>>>>> had >>>>>> no children! What later became of Myrtle is a mystery.... >>>>>> >>>>>> So now my question to you is the following: >>>>>> >>>>>> * Who was this Myrtle? I don't find any trace of her in the 1920, >>>>>> 1930 or >>>>>> 1940 censuses; neither do I find a reference to her parents! >>>>>> >>>>>> Could it be I have the name wrong? Maybe a newspaper item would >>>>>> mention >>>>>> her or at least the Edgerton, WI wedding from 1943? >>>>>> >>>>>> Any suggestions would be more than welcome! >>>>>> >>>>>> Very sincerely yours, >>>>>> >>>>>> Lars E. Oyane